50 Years of "Limits to Growth". With Prof. Dr. Dennis Meadows, Saori Dubourg & Dr. Patrick Graichen

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  • @marco87615
    @marco87615 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The goal of these internationalists: impoverish the many and enrich the few.
    Their MO: Engineer the problems into existence, then provide the "solutions".

    • @maciejkowalski6045
      @maciejkowalski6045 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah climate change is bullshit, meadows statement planet can only support 1 billion of people is taken out of Unicorn Ass ....

  • @HeidiHiHi
    @HeidiHiHi ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I am compelled to fear that science will be used to promote the power of dominant groups rather than to make men happy......Bertrand Russell

    • @maciejkowalski6045
      @maciejkowalski6045 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yuval noah harrari said science is search of power, but father josh in movie the contact said, that science should be pursuit of truth. Harrari is mental basket

    • @weqe2278
      @weqe2278 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@maciejkowalski6045 You want the truth, you cannot handle the truuth. Damn right, I ordered the code red.

    • @maciejkowalski6045
      @maciejkowalski6045 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol ok @@weqe2278

  • @jackwilson170
    @jackwilson170 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    These people just worship them selfs while drooling with power

  • @marilynbaker2231
    @marilynbaker2231 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He is a child of pride.

  • @coolworx
    @coolworx ปีที่แล้ว +17

    What do you suppose is the average ecological footprint of an audience member?
    _Do as I say, not as I do_

    • @janklaas6885
      @janklaas6885 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      exactly, and what brand of water are they drinking do you think ?

    • @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
      @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 ปีที่แล้ว

      the global average is 4 tons of CO2 emissions per year.

  • @treefrog3349
    @treefrog3349 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Of course, the whole evening begins with a "commercial"!

  • @geiramk
    @geiramk ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You just know that those BASF and government representatives want to say the words 'Green growth' straight out, but know they need to use different words after Meadows spoke. Both those institutions overtly front growth as their goal.
    Such people never quantify relative productivity of envisaged and current energy sources and the ability of energy systems to renew both themselves and the increasingly large and complex societies they must supply, nor what is required in terms of mineral and other resources (at ever increasing energy cost at the margin) on an ongoing basis and on a global scale to achieve their pie in their sky dreaming aimed at not having to change the status quo in any real sense. It's all just airy-fairy words and no real substance.
    They are basically automatons programmed suggest that the same systems, institutions and thought processes should address the problems that have been largely caused by those same systems, institutions and thought processes. And that a painless solution will somehow just materialise if we just trust in the same path that got us into the huge mess we're now in.

  • @robgrant7225
    @robgrant7225 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Justifying Extermination...

    • @maciejkowalski6045
      @maciejkowalski6045 ปีที่แล้ว

      mental basket he is completely.... and he built career on his stupid book lol ppl call him professor

    • @didforlove
      @didforlove 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Georgia guidestones

  • @perlita1212
    @perlita1212 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    From Berlin....

  • @tombrackett.official3447
    @tombrackett.official3447 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It like another movement 80 years ago

  • @edwardlee2794
    @edwardlee2794 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a slogan, it's not what people love , but a fact in reality. In fact it's a punch line for the planet and more so and evident ever since. Thanks for the thought provoking event.
    Not the messenger the consumer's society want.
    Thanks for the effort and keep up the good work.
    From Hker worldwide

  • @bentray1908
    @bentray1908 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These people haven’t spent enough time with chatgpt

  • @applemac100100
    @applemac100100 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    He is one very sick evil individual

    • @Meekseek
      @Meekseek ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes he is, him and all of them.

    • @UnknownPascal-sc2nk
      @UnknownPascal-sc2nk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Attacking the messenger

  • @BobQuigley
    @BobQuigley ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's only one way to measure. PPM greenhouse gases pollution. Until the increases stop, reverse we're making the situation worse. No other measure has the precision required.

    • @skeetorkiftwon
      @skeetorkiftwon ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder how much the atmosphere expands per degree of warming as per the ideal gas law.

  • @NWSnort
    @NWSnort ปีที่แล้ว +9

    this guy needs to be cleaned up.

  • @BobQuigley
    @BobQuigley ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The human ability to overcome is misplaced in this conversation. We're at the limits of well understood physics. In the past physics was our friend and benefactor. Yet the general population like the folks high on hopium in this video feel physics has no boundaries. In addition since 1972 when limits to Growth was published we've doubled population and exponentially grown fossil fuels use. Stunning that a room full of clearly intelligent folks no one sees the self induced civilization ending meteor coming straight at us! Simultaneously we're locked in another meaningless sadistic war and working overtime to start ANOTHER one with China. Remarkably irresponsible....

    • @skeetorkiftwon
      @skeetorkiftwon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Albert Bartlett would suggest that the war is choosing from the left hand side of the list, before nature chooses from the right hand side.

    • @unseenseer
      @unseenseer ปีที่แล้ว

      what is doubly hilarious and tragic is that the Iran-Contra gang network (Bush, Clinton etc) were selling weapons technology and state secrets to Russia, China and Israel this entire time

    • @unseenseer
      @unseenseer ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dennis Meadows knows we are doomed

    • @UnknownPascal-sc2nk
      @UnknownPascal-sc2nk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The predictions were all correct

  • @MaitreJedi19
    @MaitreJedi19 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lets decouple economic growth from resource, so that companies make a ton of money with renewable techno, continue to invest in lobbying to buy pathetic power cravers (politicians), and let everybody else in a lot worst situation that we were in. The only path that is realistically left is a coordinated de-growth... instead government will continue to increase debt (which is a claim on future growth) and hide the problems until it is perfectly clear that growth will stop and then everything will collapse... While it may seems pessimistic, this is my rose-coloured glasses scenario :)

  • @maxschmidt8929
    @maxschmidt8929 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problems the women mentions in the introductory speech as "threatening to derail" action are all symptoms of the fact that so far there HASN'T been much action that could now be derailed. And rather than derailing or delaying change these problems should serve as a wake-up call and spur us into immediate action. That said I don't really want to pay even more for food and energy than I already am... People should have listened to Meadows 50 years ago. Kudos to him for not succumbing to cynicism and being willing to join the panel in his (relatively) old age now. We should certainly remain optimistic, and probably more so than Meadows himself. Because his current perspective is clear enough. "I've shifted my focus from sustainable development to resilience." In plain English that means "brace for impact". Let's hope he's wrong.

  • @janklaas6885
    @janklaas6885 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:23:28 that humanety is screwed and goes extinct.
    And Meadows nows it.

    • @Meekseek
      @Meekseek ปีที่แล้ว

      Meadows is a pos who pretends they're not using weather and climate engineering technology and have since 1946.

  • @andreasrauth6660
    @andreasrauth6660 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BMW Foundation?! WTF? Go and stop building cars, it's the best thing you can do! And the Quandt family-who are particularly responsible for taking action as they are part of the problem-should donate their money-at least 95% of it - to fight climate change.