Chromatic Black VS Ivory Black Oil Paint - Did The Masters Use Black?

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  • @michaeljohnangel6359
    @michaeljohnangel6359 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A great video: simple and straightforward. (The double portrait, by the way, is by Frans Hals, not Rembrandt.)

    • @ShellyJCoxArtist
      @ShellyJCoxArtist  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oops. Thank you so much for letting me know 😊

  • @AriesArtist8
    @AriesArtist8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mix my own black because it looks more realistic ❤

  • @charlesreidy2765
    @charlesreidy2765 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the great video. The shortcoming of Zorn's palette was that he couldn't produce good blues from it. Would he have been able to correct this if he'd had Chromatic Black then?

    • @ShellyJCoxArtist
      @ShellyJCoxArtist  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe that he would have been able to get a slightly more saturated looking blue from the Chromatic version. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻🎨🌼

    • @MrKongatthegates
      @MrKongatthegates ปีที่แล้ว +1

      his paintings were all very harmonius, and didnt seem to suffer from a lack of blue. He didnt paint the sky or the ocean of course, he painted people. You cant use it for everything, but it gives beginners excellent guardrails. One of the first problems beginners have is too much color saturation in their paintings. The old masters had blue, but it cost a kings ransom, so normally, they never used it either

    • @richiejourney1840
      @richiejourney1840 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Zorn had the capability to make chromatic black…he didn’t always limit himself to the now known “Zorn” palette anyway.

  • @wetpaint6354
    @wetpaint6354 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this

    • @ShellyJCoxArtist
      @ShellyJCoxArtist  ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy to do it! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻👩🏼‍🎨

  • @artbyty
    @artbyty ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it’s helpful to younger artists to take the black tube of paint away from them just so they don’t overuse it. But if you can harness the power, it’s probably the most powerful paint “color” you can wield.

    • @ShellyJCoxArtist
      @ShellyJCoxArtist  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Tyler. Totally agree. Thanks for commenting 🙏🏻💕

    • @richiejourney1840
      @richiejourney1840 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That would be exactly the opposite. You must master black and the other neutrals asap. It’s entirely fundamental as well as learning about tinting strengths-not to mention cheaper . Adding “color” is secondary and more complicated.

  • @majorhughes2791
    @majorhughes2791 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That double portrait is not a Rembrandt

    • @ShellyJCoxArtist
      @ShellyJCoxArtist  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for letting me know. I believe it was an Anthony Van Dyck.

  • @deadlyradiation7977
    @deadlyradiation7977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Chromatic Black looks green to me.

    • @ShellyJCoxArtist
      @ShellyJCoxArtist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes it can. It’s made with blue, red, and green pigments. I like it for its transparency. Thanks for your comment 😀. Happy painting 🎨👩🏼‍🎨

    • @MrKongatthegates
      @MrKongatthegates ปีที่แล้ว

      the undertones give red to me, the masstone more green, but for many, thats a good thing. More 'lively"

  • @germangama8162
    @germangama8162 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    if you are a 19th century impressionist painter... if you have a fetish for pigments... if you think that the only good painting style is Sorolla's... then don't use black

    • @ShellyJCoxArtist
      @ShellyJCoxArtist  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So true. But the Chromatic Black will help get black back onto palettes 🎨😀

    • @richiejourney1840
      @richiejourney1840 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Never left my palette…own them all

    • @richiejourney1840
      @richiejourney1840 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ShellyJCoxArtistall non neutralized tubed blacks are chromatic. Everyone strives to make and use black. Tubed blacks can be easily made even more intense in color chroma. Kids need to actually LEARN.

    • @richiejourney1840
      @richiejourney1840 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also, making black costs more…which I would rather my expensive paints be better used and last longer.

    • @ShellyJCoxArtist
      @ShellyJCoxArtist  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richiejourney1840 just going by info provided from Gamblin.

  • @gingersam851
    @gingersam851 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gamblin could have created a black by mixing ultramarine blue and burnt umber instead of going nuclear with phthalo emerald.

    • @ShellyJCoxArtist
      @ShellyJCoxArtist  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes I get it. But that is why it is called Chromatic Black. 👩🏼‍🎨

    • @devolution1971
      @devolution1971 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ultramarine blue + raw (typical) or burnt umber was a common scumble and glaze mixture used in the 19th century nicknamed "moonglow" for its use in nocturnes but also to reactivate dead shadows by adding a broken color aspect. A common chromatic black (also very transparent) was sap green+alizarin

    • @e.g.1218
      @e.g.1218 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@devolution1971 in a glaze did it crack since umber is so fast drying?

  • @aserodriguez1425
    @aserodriguez1425 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish you would have used both colors in the "Artist" line and NOT one from the "1980" line and the other from "artist". Everyone knows the 1980 line is way cheaper and less pigmented.

    • @ShellyJCoxArtist
      @ShellyJCoxArtist  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes that would have been better.