I'm not a pianist. - I'm an electric bassist. The Steinway and the Bosendorfer sound GREAT !!! - But the Fazioli is just a cut above...The separation of notes. The Clarity...It's a modern work of art...
If I were a miljonair I would donate you such a machine. Your passion and love for the craftmanship of this AMAZING instrument is so beautiful. Fazioli, you make the most beautiful and most state of the Art (capital A) grands I've ever heard. Thank Fazioli, the owner and you for this amazing video
I know nothing about playing the piano but this video is brilliantly enlightening. I will be listening to piano playing with larger ears in future. Thank you.
Yes, was it the "Rubenstein Piano" ? One of the technicians who worked on it was in employ in the Faust Harrison White Plains piano rebuilders. He was not as impressed with it as the hype would let on. But then there is this, I wonder 108 notes with an almost pythagorean scaling to reduce inharmonicity. th-cam.com/video/6ithskt49HA/w-d-xo.html
I have been trying to convince people of how the 2 octaves below middle C define the instrument. An here is someone who just expressed everything that frustrates me playing. Thanks for letting me know I'm not nuts.
it's common knowledge, there is either mud in that range and clash of lows or definition and focused clear separation. Estonia and Bechstein particularly know how to clear things down there.
@@almur88 The fellow here beautifully runs around this instrument and gives this thing a complete physical. A few of the people who demo pianos on the WEB, seem to concentrate on the midrange or upper register sounds. Yeah, they are important of course, but when the bass end of the instrument is ignored, what is that? When you say Estonia, you mean the new breed of Estonia pianos not the ones they made for teh cheepie market. Anyhoo, all the best.
What an incredible presentation you did on this legendary grand piano. You have such a big love and passion for the piano. The Fazioli is such an incredible quality masterpiece of "musical engineering"...
This is a great schooling for beginners to understand piano, it is not about just making sound it is about how do use the piano to recreate the composer ideology of the piece and consequence reinterpretation of any transcribe music
As a piano Tuner -Technician with keen interest in Physics of sound and piano acoustic, I can say that you have mentioned certain key words that are relevant to understanding piano sound production and behaviour (different piano having its own peculiarities). This knowledge/understanding of yours, would possibly (other things being equal) make it easier for your tuner/technician to work and maximize the capacity of your piano. Good analysis.
Loved this presentation and the Chopin to wrap it up. Looking very forward to seeing what this project with Steven yields and hope it will be some fantastic high quality/resolution music from Daniel and other artists for audiophiles everywhere! TH-cam is great for overall video and sound but the sound available is very limited. To hear what it really sounds like requires much bigger files... Bravo!
No it doesn't clean the floor. Not even close. If you are a so talented a pianist that you cannot achieve on a Steinway, then you belong in the book of records.
Very interesting presentation on this lovely piano....I know what you mean regarding a top of the line instrument....I play the Roland Atelier Platinum Organ and there is no comparison to this organ and other brands.... It is a privilege to hear you play on this fine piano.... thanks.
thank you for the video....i have a digital piano and F308 plugin from VSL....trying to get a feel of the F308 sounds so I can have the same or close sound of my F308....other youtube comparison doesn't provide enough sound clarity coz they are playing way a bit fast to clearly listen to the Fazioli majestic tone
A CORRECTION: Bartolomeo Cristofori is not just another inventor of the pianoforte, but THE inventor of the pianoforte and not in 1720 (NYC copy) but in 1710 (Munich copy). No other copies are known to exist. He was principally a Harpsichord builder for the wealthy in Florence and did not persevere in the further development of his new invention, that became the domain of the Germans for a later period.
I love how commited you are! And devoted! They were right to let you work with that piano! By the way, one thing I would also like to understand is how Paolo made it possible to have the sound produced before the key is pressed? Or is that also an Evert Snel invention?
Very clear sound.... good for some types of music.. Ive played one..clean notes....But I feel its a little less musical...But then its in the top category and that too in a short time... I'd like to own a smaller one...
Terrific video Daniel. Lots of very good points made. But, as good as it may sound to one's ears (sound IS subjective as you know)...Fazioli is only 43-30 years old. The question a buyer must ask is..Is he or she willing to spend $150k+ USD on a grand built by a small (I'm guessing...vs a mega corp like Yamaha, Kawai, Steinway & Sons...). Will Fazoli still be here 25 years later? 50 years later? Will there be qualified service people always...in every major city?
Thank you! That's a great question. High-end pianos have been selling remarkably well in major cities throughout the world. Much of the success of the company can be attributed to Paolo Fazioli, who is a passionate engineer and musician in one. If Fazioli continues to remain innovative, there will always be a place for them on the competitive market for many years to come.
@@DanPerforms Seems he's already covered all the bases...as far as innovation and "features" are concerned. Just found out Fazioli grands use the same wood used in Stradivari string instruments of the past. As does C. Bechstein. IRONIC no modern day string instrument maker has access to those same woods (lathierss) Small workshops that hand make string instruments. Ironic. Not sure why. "Cost of the wood"? The "cost of access" is too high for any one but a Fazioli or C. Bechstein?
I was also born in 1981, FAZIOLI FTW!!! He makes the best pianos in the world. He should make a 308 with extra base keys/strings and fourth pedal to play next to an Imperial Bösendorfer. I already prefer the FAZIOLI instrument but I think it would make a great special edition piano.
most pianos do not have clear bass just because it doesn't sound musical for a pianoforte. pianoforte was made for romantic repertoire, where it is very musical do blur this region. Fazioli reminds me of a fortepiano on steroids, it has a very distinct conception of sound which contradicts that of a pianoforte, which was to intentionally blur and make a rounded sound. I find it quite a misconception to say that other brands does not have a "refined sound" at this region. is it ON PURPOSE, and it was the intention of several decades of transformation of a fortepiano into a pianoforte, and the transformation of the musical language from classicism to romanticism. for example, Debussy is not about playing ppp, but playing softly and blurred. I believe Fazioli is the OPPOSITE of a Steinway. both goes in complete different directions. one is not the improvement of the other.
@@Johannes_Brahms65 I cannot say which instrument composers would prefer. Usually they write pieces that fit their own instrument. That's why if we want to play Mozart on a modern piano, we must understand how to play a fortepiano too, then stylistics challenges disappear. Chopin wrote for Pleyel, romantic virtuosi wrote for Erard and Rachmaninov wrote for pre-war American Steinway. There's an album of Pletnev playing Rach's own instrument.
I think every piano of the high end line needs to be viewed as having its own personality which either suits you or not. Some music benefits from one piano kind, while the other is better suited for some other fine examples of the instrument. After all, wouldn't we all agree on that we are arguing over some finest grand pianos ever made? Cream de la cream after all. Honestly, I prefer to listen and play harpsichord for barocco because in my opinion its dry sound adds very distinct flavor to the color of barocco style. There are pianos with dry sound, but they are far from harpsichord. So, I think when it comes to pianos, we must let them be as they are and choose the instrument for an occasion. As for personal preferences, you would choose the one that fits your own personality best. I for instance was petrified at the sound of Bosendorfer the first time I touched the keys to test its resonance and overtones. I heard Cosmos in its sound. It somehow drew the space into itself, and I had never experienced anything like that before. Sound normally fills in the space, but this one not only infiltrated the space, but consumed it. So it was like as if the room existed inside the Bosendorfer 290, and not vise versa. The magic of the sound still lingers in my mind. I don't think I could ever forget it. Now it is my dream to own one, so that I could compose music with it. It did not have the bell quality to it as some other pianos, but the magic it created with lasting notes are indescribable. I do love bell-like sound, too, so I would happily own two or three different grands. It is like having different lovers - they are truly magnificent on their own, so choosing one over the other would be a crime. ;-) Steinway is something like a bit of everything for everyone and it is such a fine instrument - my college has many of them. And sometimes one needs a piano on steroids, I am sure. ;-) When I have my internal search for a timber, I go after the final emotion, so it is the emotion which conveys the message that will direct me in choosing one instrument over the other. I am sure one can form most intimate relationships with each of these aforementioned fine instruments and adore them all. My best wishes to you in your artistic journey!
bosendorfer and bechstein are the best in my opinion. i dont like the painful high notes as they need to be more sublime and the bass has to be accented. but to each their own with all respect ofcourse and hewitt does a good job on fazioli 278 and to read fazioli comes from italy is awesome
I was expecting to hear some more difficult Chopin pieces, such as the Etudes Op 10 & Op 25. How far did you get in your classical music training why it's Chopin pieces for kids you were playing ?
I'm sure you love it and yes it is a very good piano, but a piano most emphatically does not make a pianist. It's the other way around. If someone even tries to suggest something like, "Imagine, if only Horowitz had a Fazioli, imagine how much better he could have been." Then we consider all these poor unfortunate pianists who never had anything better than a Steinway. Sometimes the argument is just too obvious.
Daniel, in future presentations, talk less and play more. You are a very capable pianist and music sounds better being played than talking about it. No offense !!
Overrated instrument. It has no character, no colors. My sense is there is something in the wood Steinway uses that give it the sound a certain complexity and depth, so you don't just hear a pitch with a basic piano (wood-metallic) timbre. Not every Steinway, of course, sounds amazing, but in an excellent Steinway you hear in a concert hall or other institution or conscientious owner's home, you get all these layers in every note, and a blending between notes that multiplies the complexity. I'm not a wine connoisseur, but I imagine (sorry if the comparison is very cliche) it's similar to what wine experts detect and savor. I don't hear anything like that in Fazioli.
Interesting comment. Actually, I have heard similar criticism many times. The reality is that at least 98% of world-class pianists exclusively perform on a Steinway.
Thank you for being the one to say that. I try hard not to have to make such obvious comparisons. Interestingly the scale of all the Steinways in production today were developed a century ago. They got it right the first time..
@@gregs3580 Like with Stradivarius, the modern computer-based engineering approach pales compared to traditional craftsmanship and artistry. Fazioli pretends they've achieved a perfect marriage of the two principles, but it's a failed marriage. People are deluding themselves about this, because they've convinced themselves modern engineering must be an advance beyond what was done over a century ago. But it's just a fantasy and hype. No serious artist would prefer a Fazioli for a serious recital in a major concert hall.
@@AnonYmous-ry2jn Nothing wrong with a Fazioli. They are great instruments. I'm glad Steinway supplies their action parts. I do not feel they handle the complexity of music where transparency matters, better than a Steinway and perhaps not as well.
I'm not a pianist. - I'm an electric bassist. The Steinway and the Bosendorfer sound GREAT !!! - But the Fazioli is just a cut above...The separation of notes. The Clarity...It's a modern work of art...
I am a bassist as well [but I do play piano] and wow, what you said here is exactly right.
If I were a miljonair I would donate you such a machine. Your passion and love for the craftmanship of this AMAZING instrument is so beautiful. Fazioli, you make the most beautiful and most state of the Art (capital A) grands I've ever heard. Thank Fazioli, the owner and you for this amazing video
I am wondering, which is the more fascinating and unique piano: the Fazioli or the Bosendorfer?
Superb presentation from a virtuoso’s perspective and the technical aspects of this piano.
Amazing Piano Artist & Amazing Piano.
I know nothing about playing the piano but this video is brilliantly enlightening. I will be listening to piano playing with larger ears in future. Thank you.
Fantastic video and such a smart and appreciable presentation - I cannot think of one better than this! Thank you for doing this!
This Fazioli is gorgeous. I played a thirteen foot piano out in California back in the early 2000s. It was wild!
Yes, was it the "Rubenstein Piano" ? One of the technicians who worked on it was in employ in the Faust Harrison White Plains piano rebuilders. He was not as impressed with it as the hype would let on. But then there is this, I wonder 108 notes with an almost pythagorean scaling to reduce inharmonicity. th-cam.com/video/6ithskt49HA/w-d-xo.html
I have been trying to convince people of how the 2 octaves below middle C define the instrument. An here is someone who just expressed everything that frustrates me playing.
Thanks for letting me know I'm not nuts.
it's common knowledge, there is either mud in that range and clash of lows or definition and focused clear separation. Estonia and Bechstein particularly know how to clear things down there.
@@almur88 The fellow here beautifully runs around this instrument and gives this thing a complete physical. A few of the people who demo pianos on the WEB, seem to concentrate on the midrange or upper register sounds. Yeah, they are important of course, but when the bass end of the instrument is ignored, what is that? When you say Estonia, you mean the new breed of Estonia pianos not the ones they made for teh cheepie market. Anyhoo, all the best.
One word.Wow!
He has such passion for the piano.
incredible passion and knowledge shared during this presentation. thank you so much
Great presentation and very helpful, Daniel! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and performance!
What an incredible presentation you did on this legendary grand piano. You have such a big love and passion for the piano. The Fazioli is such an incredible quality masterpiece of "musical engineering"...
This is a great schooling for beginners to understand piano, it is not about just making sound it is about how do use the piano to recreate the composer ideology of the piece and consequence reinterpretation of any transcribe music
As a piano Tuner -Technician with keen interest in Physics of sound and piano acoustic, I can say that you have mentioned certain key words that are relevant to understanding piano sound production and behaviour (different piano having its own peculiarities). This knowledge/understanding of yours, would possibly (other things being equal) make it easier for your tuner/technician to work and maximize the capacity of your piano. Good analysis.
Loved this presentation and the Chopin to wrap it up. Looking very forward to seeing what this project with Steven yields and hope it will be some fantastic high quality/resolution music from Daniel and other artists for audiophiles everywhere! TH-cam is great for overall video and sound but the sound available is very limited. To hear what it really sounds like requires much bigger files... Bravo!
If I could own any piano, no doubt, it would be a Fazioli.
I just can’t afford these beasts.
FANTASTIC
Faziolis clean the floor with Steinway in terms of sound quality.
No it doesn't clean the floor. Not even close. If you are a so talented a pianist that you cannot achieve on a Steinway, then you belong in the book of records.
E' un vero gioiello.
Congrats for the brand's choice.
Very interesting presentation on this lovely piano....I know what you mean regarding a top of the line instrument....I play the Roland Atelier Platinum Organ and there is no comparison to this organ and other brands.... It is a privilege to hear you play on this fine piano.... thanks.
Ohh my lovely!
thank you for the video....i have a digital piano and F308 plugin from VSL....trying to get a feel of the F308 sounds so I can have the same or close sound of my F308....other youtube comparison doesn't provide enough sound clarity coz they are playing way a bit fast to clearly listen to the Fazioli majestic tone
Is there a grand piano longer than this 302?
Yes there is. There's 1. Borgato, 2. Alexander, 3. Klavins 370 and 450.
Interesting! Thank you for your time!
A CORRECTION: Bartolomeo Cristofori is not just another inventor of the pianoforte, but THE inventor of the pianoforte and not in 1720 (NYC copy) but in 1710 (Munich copy). No other copies are known to exist. He was principally a Harpsichord builder for the wealthy in Florence and did not persevere in the further development of his new invention, that became the domain of the Germans for a later period.
I wonder if you can get a FAZIOLI that is around six feet three inches.
The closest model would be the F183 at 6’.
I love how commited you are! And devoted! They were right to let you work with that piano! By the way, one thing I would also like to understand is how Paolo made it possible to have the sound produced before the key is pressed? Or is that also an Evert Snel invention?
Very clear sound.... good for some types of music.. Ive played one..clean notes....But I feel its a little less musical...But then its in the top category and that too in a short time... I'd like to own a smaller one...
Terrific video Daniel. Lots of very good points made. But, as good as it may sound to one's ears (sound IS subjective as you know)...Fazioli is only 43-30 years old. The question a buyer must ask is..Is he or she willing to spend $150k+ USD on a grand built by a small (I'm guessing...vs a mega corp like Yamaha, Kawai, Steinway & Sons...). Will Fazoli still be here 25 years later? 50 years later? Will there be qualified service people always...in every major city?
Thank you! That's a great question. High-end pianos have been selling remarkably well in major cities throughout the world. Much of the success of the company can be attributed to Paolo Fazioli, who is a passionate engineer and musician in one. If Fazioli continues to remain innovative, there will always be a place for them on the competitive market for many years to come.
@@DanPerforms Seems he's already covered all the bases...as far as innovation and "features" are concerned. Just found out Fazioli grands use the same wood used in Stradivari string instruments of the past. As does C. Bechstein. IRONIC no modern day string instrument maker has access to those same woods (lathierss) Small workshops that hand make string instruments. Ironic. Not sure why. "Cost of the wood"? The "cost of access" is too high for any one but a Fazioli or C. Bechstein?
@@AGC828 Sort of funny if you think that is true.
I was also born in 1981, FAZIOLI FTW!!! He makes the best pianos in the world. He should make a 308 with extra base keys/strings and fourth pedal to play next to an Imperial Bösendorfer. I already prefer the FAZIOLI instrument but I think it would make a great special edition piano.
Very interesting!
Very interesting
most pianos do not have clear bass just because it doesn't sound musical for a pianoforte. pianoforte was made for romantic repertoire, where it is very musical do blur this region. Fazioli reminds me of a fortepiano on steroids, it has a very distinct conception of sound which contradicts that of a pianoforte, which was to intentionally blur and make a rounded sound. I find it quite a misconception to say that other brands does not have a "refined sound" at this region. is it ON PURPOSE, and it was the intention of several decades of transformation of a fortepiano into a pianoforte, and the transformation of the musical language from classicism to romanticism. for example, Debussy is not about playing ppp, but playing softly and blurred. I believe Fazioli is the OPPOSITE of a Steinway. both goes in complete different directions. one is not the improvement of the other.
Maybe you have a point. Which piano would Rachmaninov have prefered?
@@Johannes_Brahms65 I cannot say which instrument composers would prefer. Usually they write pieces that fit their own instrument. That's why if we want to play Mozart on a modern piano, we must understand how to play a fortepiano too, then stylistics challenges disappear. Chopin wrote for Pleyel, romantic virtuosi wrote for Erard and Rachmaninov wrote for pre-war American Steinway. There's an album of Pletnev playing Rach's own instrument.
I think every piano of the high end line needs to be viewed as having its own personality which either suits you or not. Some music benefits from one piano kind, while the other is better suited for some other fine examples of the instrument.
After all, wouldn't we all agree on that we are arguing over some finest grand pianos ever made? Cream de la cream after all. Honestly, I prefer to listen and play harpsichord for barocco because in my opinion its dry sound adds very distinct flavor to the color of barocco style. There are pianos with dry sound, but they are far from harpsichord. So, I think when it comes to pianos, we must let them be as they are and choose the instrument for an occasion. As for personal preferences, you would choose the one that fits your own personality best. I for instance was petrified at the sound of Bosendorfer the first time I touched the keys to test its resonance and overtones. I heard Cosmos in its sound. It somehow drew the space into itself, and I had never experienced anything like that before. Sound normally fills in the space, but this one not only infiltrated the space, but consumed it. So it was like as if the room existed inside the Bosendorfer 290, and not vise versa. The magic of the sound still lingers in my mind. I don't think I could ever forget it. Now it is my dream to own one, so that I could compose music with it. It did not have the bell quality to it as some other pianos, but the magic it created with lasting notes are indescribable. I do love bell-like sound, too, so I would happily own two or three different grands. It is like having different lovers - they are truly magnificent on their own, so choosing one over the other would be a crime. ;-) Steinway is something like a bit of everything for everyone and it is such a fine instrument - my college has many of them. And sometimes one needs a piano on steroids, I am sure. ;-) When I have my internal search for a timber, I go after the final emotion, so it is the emotion which conveys the message that will direct me in choosing one instrument over the other. I am sure one can form most intimate relationships with each of these aforementioned fine instruments and adore them all. My best wishes to you in your artistic journey!
bosendorfer and bechstein are the best in my opinion. i dont like the painful high notes as they need to be more sublime and the bass has to be accented. but to each their own with all respect ofcourse and hewitt does a good job on fazioli 278 and to read fazioli comes from italy is awesome
What's wrong with the jeans?
08:47 exactly!! That's what I get annoyed with my piano sometimes 😂
Çok duygusuz ve tonsuz bir sesi var. Piano doğallığından çıkmış.
I love your explinations! It really makes me wish I could sing!
explanation, not explination!
Sounds gorgeous but I want to hear rock piano on it
Quiz part: 3,08 meters. 308 Centimeters.
This guy is not 40? I would have thought more than that. He looks and sounds more mature
The reverb ruins the entire point of this video. You arnt even hearing the piano more than your getting the Acoustics of the room.
sounds like a piano
I was expecting to hear some more difficult Chopin pieces, such as the Etudes Op 10 & Op 25. How far did you get in your classical music training why it's Chopin pieces for kids you were playing ?
Go stuff it.
Not very far. I'm still trying to get the first bar just right!
This remark only illustrates the musical limitations of the commenter.
I'm not sure what comes across more in your statement, your rudeness or your ignorance.
@@c3piano How very petulant, Carlos. Are you a musician? I truly doubt it. Envy is so obvious in your poor little comment.
I do find those kinds of TH-cam videos disrespectful to the seriousness of the arts.
I feel the opposite actually.
A Fazioli, now swearing in a church it is extremely competent but, but it embraces butchering at the high, it's way to modern for me
I hope i know piano.
What an odd way of speaking, Hard to listen to
I'm sure you love it and yes it is a very good piano, but a piano most emphatically does not make a pianist. It's the other way around. If someone even tries to suggest something like, "Imagine, if only Horowitz had a Fazioli, imagine how much better he could have been." Then we consider all these poor unfortunate pianists who never had anything better than a Steinway. Sometimes the argument is just too obvious.
Daniel, in future presentations, talk less and play more. You are a very capable pianist and music sounds better being played than talking about it. No offense !!
Overrated instrument. It has no character, no colors. My sense is there is something in the wood Steinway uses that give it the sound a certain complexity and depth, so you don't just hear a pitch with a basic piano (wood-metallic) timbre. Not every Steinway, of course, sounds amazing, but in an excellent Steinway you hear in a concert hall or other institution or conscientious owner's home, you get all these layers in every note, and a blending between notes that multiplies the complexity. I'm not a wine connoisseur, but I imagine (sorry if the comparison is very cliche) it's similar to what wine experts detect and savor. I don't hear anything like that in Fazioli.
Interesting comment. Actually, I have heard similar criticism many times. The reality is that at least 98% of world-class pianists exclusively perform on a Steinway.
I agree. The Fazioli sounds nice but a good Hamburg Steinway D is much better.
Thank you for being the one to say that. I try hard not to have to make such obvious comparisons. Interestingly the scale of all the Steinways in production today were developed a century ago. They got it right the first time..
@@gregs3580 Like with Stradivarius, the modern computer-based engineering approach pales compared to traditional craftsmanship and artistry. Fazioli pretends they've achieved a perfect marriage of the two principles, but it's a failed marriage. People are deluding themselves about this, because they've convinced themselves modern engineering must be an advance beyond what was done over a century ago. But it's just a fantasy and hype. No serious artist would prefer a Fazioli for a serious recital in a major concert hall.
@@AnonYmous-ry2jn Nothing wrong with a Fazioli. They are great instruments. I'm glad Steinway supplies their action parts.
I do not feel they handle the complexity of music where transparency matters, better than a Steinway and perhaps not as well.
too much talk
Talk too much not much playing to show the piano.