Hey Oora, I understand what you mean, in regards to a modular setup having a higher learning curve, to create music in a manner that is comfortable; while, for example, using an instrument you have intimate knowledge of. It's obvious you are fairly advanced with the PerFourmer, but to me (which isn't saying much), you are almost sounding better on a modular instrument. I say 'almost' because I have not heard a song of yours where a modular instrument was used as your main. In other words, I'm only 'guessing' to how I 'think' you may sound with a modular instrument by the small examples/jamming you have played in a few of your videos. Again, to me, your modular 'jams' (within those few videos) sound more sophisticated (compared to your PerFourmer sound), and I think that will get even better the more you learn and advance with your modular setup. I would like to see you make your modular setup your main instrument, while using the PerFourmer as spice, sprinkled here and there, throughout your work.
Thanks for your kind words. Lately I am actually investing a lot of time with modular, mostly because I start feeling that modulations are my next thing to really master. The vermona is my safe place, but definitely limited for what I would like to do. Ciao!
Interesting that you’re not using Mojave as an end-of-chain effect. Mine is in the post, but from what I’ve heard of it a simple reverb to follow would be enough (L1 on the Disting Mk IV for example). Is it possible to mangle a signal too much?
As well as the Mojave. You might want to try getting your hands on a Tasty Chips GR-1. Or try to get them to lend you an EX when it comes out. I think you might like it better than a lot of modules. It's more of an instrument, in many ways. You might like the fact it is four part multi-timbral, and has decent polyphony. And the granular engine is exceptional sounding, dense, smooth clouds, think it's the king, sound-wise. It has some limitations, but you could mostly overcome them with what you have. The first is, need to add a compatible class-compliant audio interface to get audio inputs, if you want to use for processing and not just playback. Second, need to strap a great FX processor on the back (Rooms, OTO, UAD, Empress, Strymon all do nicely). Then, it's a bit limited in modulation. But you can add modulation from the cv inputs, and use your modular. Then also, if you have a great hardware sequencer (e.g. Oxi One), you can also add some modulation from there, over MIDI. Because of the multi-timbrality and polyphony, if you have all that gear already, I think it's better than almost all eurorack modules and has a more hands-on UI (slider, faders, knobs and a big screen).
Consider too a Liven Texture Lab. Super portable fun. low-fi and can also be used as an outboard effects unit, all with less of a financial stretch. Also, the in-built speaker vibrates the body of the synth and if sat on your lap, adds a satisfying new dimension to portable sound design.
Well, sure, if you compare the GR-1 to the Mojave alone, of course it is "more of an instrument". However, that is not what modular is. You can use the Mojave with 30 LFOs, where as you can't do that with the GR-1 alone (not sure -can you use it with modular pieces?). In this setup, which is more of an instrument? As Oora pointed out, by going v/oct, from a sequencer into Mojave, you can make Mojave more of an 'instrument' by that alone. Nonetheless, I do agree with some aspects of what is so important (to me) with granular instruments such as the GR-1, or Native Instrument's Arc Light. Which, is the 'visual cues' you have of the sample you are using. If something like Arc Light was made into a module, including graphics of the sample, I'd go module right then and there. For now, I always have VCV modulating VSTs, such as Arc Light, with some module or another. A VCV 'sample and hold' module is almost always in my VSTs, for example. I really need to figure out how to get VCV working with Mother 32.
Completely agree, modulation power is GR-1 weak point. But grain density, polyphony and UI is its advantages. GR--1 with a powerful external sequencer gets it some way further. GR-1 suits my needs a bit more. But I would like an Arbhar V2 or Mojave. Hoping Instruo eventually put out the Arbhar vcv module, nit might not happen. Think an intern did develop it for them, but there were computing issues with that one
I see. That's a lot of great information, thanks a lot for taking time out of your day for my/community benefit. So, with an audio interface (for audio in) how does it handle real-time granule processing... latency, noise, etc.? Please reply at your convenience.
@@vvcv__00I use it with an Audient Evo. And I think that works pretty well for noise floor because of the smartgain/float easy metering. Haven't measured latency but I do think it's pretty good - I would think somewhere around 10ms. On the realtime processing, because of the modulation limitations. So, what I need to really dig into and explore is using external sequencer to modulate CC's. I have an Oxi One I'm going to try. But I'm thinking something like Hermod, even maybe Pams over MIDI, or an Expert Sleepers type setup could work well too. What I do at the moment is more treat it like a hands-on instrument, with the crossfader, knobs and sliders, sort of like how I'd deal with playing a 303. The output noise I guess I haven't noticed. I kind of wish it had a better in-built reverb, just because I'd rather not have to add an effects pedal across the outputs, and have another A/D and D/A pass. On the input, would depend on the interface, and the instrument / preamp you are feeding in. The Audient is pretty inky quiet. Electric guitars are inherently pretty noisy, so pickup noise or mic noise for me masks any miniscule conversion type noise. Probably cleaner sounding that most eurorack modules which live in a non-ideal huddled together enclosure with many potentially interfering devices. The chassis is metal too, so no RF. What you do hear is a tiny little noise from the rasperry pi, though more so on boot, or if it's very hot. About on the order of a quiet laptop like a macbook. It's a very clean, clear hi-fidelity sounding granular engine. I think the best I've heard, though Arbhar has doubled in number of grains since V2, so probably getting in the ballpark.
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Hey Oora, I understand what you mean, in regards to a modular setup having a higher learning curve, to create music in a manner that is comfortable; while, for example, using an instrument you have intimate knowledge of. It's obvious you are fairly advanced with the PerFourmer, but to me (which isn't saying much), you are almost sounding better on a modular instrument. I say 'almost' because I have not heard a song of yours where a modular instrument was used as your main. In other words, I'm only 'guessing' to how I 'think' you may sound with a modular instrument by the small examples/jamming you have played in a few of your videos. Again, to me, your modular 'jams' (within those few videos) sound more sophisticated (compared to your PerFourmer sound), and I think that will get even better the more you learn and advance with your modular setup.
I would like to see you make your modular setup your main instrument, while using the PerFourmer as spice, sprinkled here and there, throughout your work.
Thanks for your kind words. Lately I am actually investing a lot of time with modular, mostly because I start feeling that modulations are my next thing to really master. The vermona is my safe place, but definitely limited for what I would like to do. Ciao!
very inspiring! would love to see you’re workflow and performance with prepared sp404 material + modular!
Coming soon!
this is a great video - hard to see on the video but what parameter is the joy stick controlling?
Big thanx for sharing your experience! How did you created the glides in the sequence? Greetings 🖖☺️
with the sequencer!
I got the Atlantis because of you!! How do you like the just friends? Awesome videos, as usual :)
I use JF only as function generator and is pretty great. Nothing I "need" but add a lot of flavor
Amazing! Just wondering how you deal with neighbors and volume levels having the studio in your apt.
I keep volume down actually. Also not using drums a lot make things easy. I have another studio for mixing loud when I need to.
Interesting that you’re not using Mojave as an end-of-chain effect. Mine is in the post, but from what I’ve heard of it a simple reverb to follow would be enough (L1 on the Disting Mk IV for example). Is it possible to mangle a signal too much?
Both this video and your Data Bender video are in mono.
Crazy that nobody has mentioned this after 6 months
As well as the Mojave. You might want to try getting your hands on a Tasty Chips GR-1. Or try to get them to lend you an EX when it comes out. I think you might like it better than a lot of modules. It's more of an instrument, in many ways. You might like the fact it is four part multi-timbral, and has decent polyphony. And the granular engine is exceptional sounding, dense, smooth clouds, think it's the king, sound-wise. It has some limitations, but you could mostly overcome them with what you have. The first is, need to add a compatible class-compliant audio interface to get audio inputs, if you want to use for processing and not just playback. Second, need to strap a great FX processor on the back (Rooms, OTO, UAD, Empress, Strymon all do nicely). Then, it's a bit limited in modulation. But you can add modulation from the cv inputs, and use your modular. Then also, if you have a great hardware sequencer (e.g. Oxi One), you can also add some modulation from there, over MIDI. Because of the multi-timbrality and polyphony, if you have all that gear already, I think it's better than almost all eurorack modules and has a more hands-on UI (slider, faders, knobs and a big screen).
Consider too a Liven Texture Lab. Super portable fun. low-fi and can also be used as an outboard effects unit, all with less of a financial stretch. Also, the in-built speaker vibrates the body of the synth and if sat on your lap, adds a satisfying new dimension to portable sound design.
Well, sure, if you compare the GR-1 to the Mojave alone, of course it is "more of an instrument". However, that is not what modular is. You can use the Mojave with 30 LFOs, where as you can't do that with the GR-1 alone (not sure -can you use it with modular pieces?). In this setup, which is more of an instrument? As Oora pointed out, by going v/oct, from a sequencer into Mojave, you can make Mojave more of an 'instrument' by that alone.
Nonetheless, I do agree with some aspects of what is so important (to me) with granular instruments such as the GR-1, or Native Instrument's Arc Light. Which, is the 'visual cues' you have of the sample you are using.
If something like Arc Light was made into a module, including graphics of the sample, I'd go module right then and there.
For now, I always have VCV modulating VSTs, such as Arc Light, with some module or another. A VCV 'sample and hold' module is almost always in my VSTs, for example. I really need to figure out how to get VCV working with Mother 32.
Completely agree, modulation power is GR-1 weak point. But grain density, polyphony and UI is its advantages. GR--1 with a powerful external sequencer gets it some way further. GR-1 suits my needs a bit more. But I would like an Arbhar V2 or Mojave. Hoping Instruo eventually put out the Arbhar vcv module, nit might not happen. Think an intern did develop it for them, but there were computing issues with that one
I see. That's a lot of great information, thanks a lot for taking time out of your day for my/community benefit. So, with an audio interface (for audio in) how does it handle real-time granule processing... latency, noise, etc.? Please reply at your convenience.
@@vvcv__00I use it with an Audient Evo. And I think that works pretty well for noise floor because of the smartgain/float easy metering. Haven't measured latency but I do think it's pretty good - I would think somewhere around 10ms. On the realtime processing, because of the modulation limitations. So, what I need to really dig into and explore is using external sequencer to modulate CC's. I have an Oxi One I'm going to try. But I'm thinking something like Hermod, even maybe Pams over MIDI, or an Expert Sleepers type setup could work well too. What I do at the moment is more treat it like a hands-on instrument, with the crossfader, knobs and sliders, sort of like how I'd deal with playing a 303. The output noise I guess I haven't noticed. I kind of wish it had a better in-built reverb, just because I'd rather not have to add an effects pedal across the outputs, and have another A/D and D/A pass. On the input, would depend on the interface, and the instrument / preamp you are feeding in. The Audient is pretty inky quiet. Electric guitars are inherently pretty noisy, so pickup noise or mic noise for me masks any miniscule conversion type noise. Probably cleaner sounding that most eurorack modules which live in a non-ideal huddled together enclosure with many potentially interfering devices. The chassis is metal too, so no RF. What you do hear is a tiny little noise from the rasperry pi, though more so on boot, or if it's very hot. About on the order of a quiet laptop like a macbook. It's a very clean, clear hi-fidelity sounding granular engine. I think the best I've heard, though Arbhar has doubled in number of grains since V2, so probably getting in the ballpark.
How does this compare to morphagene ?
this is a processor, morphogenetic more a creative tape machine
:) thanks
patch cable link please?
those are my volts cables
I prefer data bender
data bender has a different role and I love it too