@@reducedfaticecreamisjustde1447that’s what I do with my 60lb takedown recurve. Makes it feel like a 20lb bow. You don’t really feel it until you try to hold it at full draw hahaha
So first off, you say midevil artwork shows you how to shoot, but that's not to say the artist new how to shoot a bow or how to properly depicted it. The reason why we shoot bows the way we do today is, yes because we have lighter bows, but also we draw in a way to prevent injury. This way with this draw weight is how you do serious damage to your back and shoulders. They don't care much about that in the midevil days.
As a Swiss (if I am not wrong) traveller of 15th century describet English archers - "I have never seen larger men, and their arms seemed as if made of iron".
Probably because many cultures, such as the Romans (Greeks too iirc, but that might've depended on the time period) saw it as cowardly. It also works out different muscles, and far from all war bows are as heavy as his
@@GrimmReaperRL 160-180 was the standard for english WAR longbows thats why it was even made by law that children had to be teached the correct and daily use of bows, that and the enorm need of practise to hit a moving target consistenly
I immediately thought about Mathias with that little fucking spiked mase arrow head that flung that guy 20 or so feet, Scorpion King was that movie mane👌🏾😮💨😮💨
He is pulling 185lbs like it's nothing in comparison to modern bows. A compound bow only needs about 40lbs of pull weight to drop a large deer. Same with a recurve so 185lbs in a medieval version of modern recurve bows could put a hole in a stone wall if the arrow is strong enough.
Really demonstrates how silly all those movie scenes are where the archers hold their warbows at full draw aimed at the protagonist for an extended period like it's nothing.
@@m1chi13l Yea longbows being a dexterity-based weapon instead of a strength-based one in basically every medieval/fantasy tabletop RPG kind of drives me up the wall actually. An 8 strength/20 dexterity ranger should actually be garbage with that kind of heavy bow compared to the 20 strength/8 dexterity fighter, but it's the other way around.
@@carsonm7292because the higher dexterity would theoretically be able to shoot more arrows. Also not every bow has ridiculous draw strength like in the video
He dissed the J’s. My fellow niggas that out the hood and went to an Ivy League school. Time to use that minor degree in jumping and curb stomp this heretic.
I mean... it is, you can't take those illustrations at face value, a lot of it are artists interpretation of things they don't understand very well. but that doesn't mean some are not accurate, specially if its specifically about the subject, like manuals.
You think back in the day, when one of your arms were bigger than the other people didn't suspect you of being a "naughty boy" but instead being one of the best archers in the army.
One arm wouldn't have been larger than the other - medieval archers used basically the whole upper body to draw back a war bow's string, and, it being their literal job, would train their upper body on the daily to keep their musculature in the necessary spec in order to be able to do so on demand. If anything would have given them away it'd have been the ridiculously large back muscles they'd have built up over the years (archers were trained from childhood) as basically no one else in the country would have been working their traps and lats to anywhere near a similar extent.
The archery community in my experience is full of elitists “you can’t shoot a bow like that it’s wrong” type shit, who knows. Met far more educated and supportive people in shooting guns.
@@elkpants1280 I’ve got both, and practice both. Every community has them, but I don’t care what someone else says. Whether they have comments about my trap shooting or my traditional archery. I’ll challenge them to a shoot off and I’ll let the scoreboard speak for itself.
I hunted and shot my compound on 85# draw with leather fingers and it after a few arrows it started to hurt. This dudes got strong fingers. Most use a trigger release and can't pull with just fingers lol
The common idea is that medieval archers were small scrawny men when in fact, they were extremely strong and muscular because of having to pull these heavy bows. Edit: sorry about the misspell, what the fuck is going on in the comments 😂
@@danielantony1882 No they didn't. You're reaching. It was clearly implied they meant the draw weight, unless you're too stupid, or intentionally ignorant
it took my brain a little to comprehend that the weight meant the draw weight, not the actual bow. 1.5 of me dangling from the string would be needed to draw the bow (edit: apparently it's even more complicated than that, see second comment down, by Dakota Rossman, for actual explanation). that's amazing.
I read a Norman account of being ambushed by Welsh in the 11 century, they would fire from very short range, within 15 meters, direct line of sight, no lofting the arrows. He talked about one knight taking a shot in the leg that penatrated his mail, passed through the thigh, out the other side, through the horse, killing the animal. The power those things could generate was frightening, at longer ranges they are very hard to be accurate and take many years to master. If the English lost an archer it was a bad loss as they took so long to train.
My mom actually taught me to draw a bow when she saw me struggling in archery class in college. You have one hand holding the arrow on the knock of the string, and one on the bow handle ofcourse - as normal. Lay the bow across your shoulder, the front of the bow facing up towards the sky. Simultaneously, move the bow upwards from where you're holding the string, and push forwards away from you so the bow is arc'ing forwards to a normal position. Never move the string from your shoulder until time to aim. This allows you to use the full upper body, and instead of pulling the string back - you're pushing the bow forward; which is alot easier than pulling in my opinion.
@@GazB85 Not exactly - sorry it's a bit tricky to put to text positioning. Basically you lay the bow across your shoulder with your bow-hand, then reach up to grab the string with your other. You're going to push upwards from your shoulder with your bow hand, without moving your string hand - and then arc that bowhand forwards as you push. Works everytime.
@@TheChefODoom When you say lay the bow across your shoulder, do you mean horizontally? You also say "reach up with your other hand..", that I'm thinking makes it sound like you hold the bow horizontally in the air above your head in line with your shoulder.
@@GazB85 Well then it seems unless I take the time to draw you a diagram or make a video of my own, I'm not going to be able to convey this to you in a way that can be understood. Sorry bud.
And that's why crossbows were a game changer, anyone can wind and aim a crossbow. Using a bow like this is very impressive though. I didn't know that's how you use one.
That’s so interesting! I’ve seen paintings like this and thought the illustrators were just unskilled, but they were capturing something vital to the archers deadly technique 😮
@@OmmerSyssel This conversation dovetails nicely with the work done by Christopher Schwarz over at Lost Art Press. Dude has poured over old prints and paintings to produce his no-nonsense books of traditional woodworking.
@@spades9681 What is the purpose of this comment dude lol? I’m literally admitting that I was wrong and over 100 people had a similar misunderstanding and your comment adds nothing of value to the convo except to say, “Don’t be wrong stupid. Try being right. It’s way better. I would know, I’m right a lot.” 😂
My nephew… he’s on a good 7th grade archery team in school. He was shooting for us at my target. I tried his bow a couple times and got it down. He did really good. I went and got my compound bow… put my release on…. Because I need it for that bow to get accurate…. lol…. Bullseye…. Bullseye bullseye…. He asked to shoot my bow. Well obviously….. “Sure let me show you how the release works and you can shoot my bow. 100%.” I didn’t mention it was a 70+ lb draw and he’s a big kid… but he’s still not got grown man strength yet. He will…. I strapped my release on his wrist. Taught him about the trigger and being safe. Showed him the sight… He 100% was all set up and expected to draw and shoot my bow…. Try one….. string dont budge…. Try two….. couple inches…. Try three…. Couple more inches and a red face. 😂😂😂 It’s hard to draw ain’t it? “Yeah it’s really hard. I can’t do it.” Well… that’s because it has a 70lb Draw weight. I make it look easy don’t I? Big smile “Yeah you do.” New memory for the family and 100% one day soon he will have his own compound bow and kick my butt. Anyone that bothered to read my story.. Did I do the right thing? Or should I have just told him he couldn’t pull it back to start with? I knew he couldn’t. But I got to set him up on it and teach him about it this way. And he asked to try and I let him try. 😊
The fact that he drew back a 160lb now AND did it barehanded is insane. My hands are like leather and I’d only be able to do that a few times before I said “never again” lol. Seems like he’s done it a few DOZEN at least
@@samgyeopsal569 they’re still warbows so yeah they are. It’s not like the bows that heavy anyway, it’s the draw from the string. Doesn’t necessarily mean that 160lbs is what you have to pull, just that’s the tension on this bow, the weight is equivalent to the force you exert technically though.
@@sweatysack9103 I'm sorry, was that supposed to be English? I'm gonna need an interpreter for this broken attempt at communication. Enjoy your sweaty sacks, Captain Hetero.
Imagine the handshake from a medieval english archer who shot a 200 lbs bow for and hour everyday, pitched hay to his cattle and milked them morning and night.
Exactly, my hunting setup is 72 lbs with 80% letoff , and my target bow is at 45 lbs, with 70% letoff definitely feels like being a wimp compared to these old time archers pulling 180 lb bows with no letoff lol
Great quick video! Also demonstrates the tremendous strength that all these wispy little fantasy elf types have when they can just hold these back for as long as they like
“It doesnt look nice” well ya see while you wield something that could probably pass through most people I believe the pose just adds some sass and i love it
He also forgets to explain that you shouldn’t just pull back on the string, you have to sort of reach over your head and then pull downward for your body to naturally pull back the string. It’s way easier than just pulling it back normally.
The basis of many martial arts theory is that the most effective techniques usually don't look nice. So really, who cares what it looks like as long as it gets the job done.
It's not really about "engaging the back muscles". It's about changing the geometry of both arms and the shoulders through the draw and using both arms to draw instead of one. Instead of leaving the bow arm in line with both shoulders and a long pull for the draw arm, you start with the bow closer to the draw arm shoulder and then swing it away as part of the draw. There's another version of this used in other archery traditions where you raise the bow above your head and then let it fall outward as part of the draw. The overhead draw is actually easier since it uses gravity more while the side swinging technique does require more from your back muscles.
That's a Welsh longbow which William the Conqueror/Bastard adopted in the English army after he discovered the importance of Archers on the battlefield the hard way. Longbowmen and Yeomen Archers were a must for English armies in medieval conflicts as they were the most efficient long range unit of that time in comparison with crossbows and horse archers.
Archers are not scrawny men pulling a bow like video games and movies tell you They are probably ripped with the amount of times they had to pull that fucking string
Probably the strongest men on the battlefield. Funny enough, wielding a long sword is easier and faster than a short sword, which is another thing Hollywood does not like.
Lost knowledge. I've told people how heavy these English long bows were and they didn't believe me because their only frame of reference was modern compound and recurve bows that are much lighter. It's fascinating to me that lost knowledge needs to be rediscovered like this. It's true what they say "use it or lose it."
Hollywood always gets medieval archers wrong. Theyre never the small, skinny guys. English longbowmen were pulling their bodyweight repeatedly, and then holding it for the command to release. They were more than likely the taller individuals in a given army and had strong backs, arms and core.
Great video. For folks interested in a more detailed analysis, Justin Ma's Way of Archery youtube channel has a detailed video on 3 different techniques on utilizing the back muscles to draw heavy draw weight bows.
Longbow archers who trained from youth had skeletons deformed by the extremity of the muscles used in bow firing and tended to be skeletally thick, again from constant training. They were built from the ground up for this.
99% of humans don't give people from centuries before us the credit they deserve for being experts at their craft. Now, people get excited by seeing a hobbyist blacksmith making a railroad spike knife, but back then, some people were really gods at their craft
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I bet there was definitely a time in history where a warrior lost his bow, and an enemy tried to use it and couldn’t pull it back
Obviously
The second level of course being that the only reason that might have never happened is because they already knew full well they couldn't do it.
Probably the 12th highest number of deaths in medieval war
Gotta be
At least top 20
@@grass-touched 1 is disease or malnutrition for sure
@@ericolsen5592 infection and exhaustion is probably also up there as well
"this doesn't look nice" pulls the most historical accurate stance on the internet.
maybe another trick is to push away with the grip and pull the drawstring at the same time.
Amazing what applying the physical limitations that existed historically can do
@@reducedfaticecreamisjustde1447that’s what I do with my 60lb takedown recurve. Makes it feel like a 20lb bow. You don’t really feel it until you try to hold it at full draw hahaha
So first off, you say midevil artwork shows you how to shoot, but that's not to say the artist new how to shoot a bow or how to properly depicted it. The reason why we shoot bows the way we do today is, yes because we have lighter bows, but also we draw in a way to prevent injury. This way with this draw weight is how you do serious damage to your back and shoulders. They don't care much about that in the midevil days.
@@kingxpawnthe spelling is egregious
"It didn't look nice" if it works it works
That's orc language. Nothing better than that
If it looks stupid but it works it ain’t stupid
Hey guys he's showing us the secrets to pulling
I think it looked pretty nice and gnarly
Except it doesn’t work! There’s NO accuracy here. Distance sure, but not accuracy.
Why are archers depicted as feeble and boyish in media when in reality they were probably some of the most physically capable soldiers
maybe because they positioned on the backline not the front line?
Those feeble archers usually aren't using a big bow like this
As a Swiss (if I am not wrong) traveller of 15th century describet English archers - "I have never seen larger men, and their arms seemed as if made of iron".
Probably because many cultures, such as the Romans (Greeks too iirc, but that might've depended on the time period) saw it as cowardly. It also works out different muscles, and far from all war bows are as heavy as his
@@GrimmReaperRL 160-180 was the standard for english WAR longbows thats why it was even made by law that children had to be teached the correct and daily use of bows, that and the enorm need of practise to hit a moving target consistenly
"it doesn't look nice"
Proceds to do the most majestic centaur pose.
Centaur? I thought Cupid …
I had to make an audible whistle noise cuz it was so nice
@@OZScar-dm2qp well i mean it can be both except the dude needs another set of legs at his back then he will be more of centaur like.
That's what I'm saying
Never underestimate Centaur Pose.
Anyone learnt martial arts, know that mimicking animals is a technique too .
Dude just turned manpower to horsepower
"It doesn't look nice"
Uh sir, that looked fucking beautiful.
facts man
Guy with arrow in his eye: def didnt feel nice
Agreed
That ‘sir’ addition wins the internet for today
@@Appachoppa112 at 180lb draw weight you mean “guy with a hole through his skull”.
"It doesn't look nice"
adopts a badass Scorpion King stance
I immediately thought about Mathias with that little fucking spiked mase arrow head that flung that guy 20 or so feet, Scorpion King was that movie mane👌🏾😮💨😮💨
Loved the movie and the game as a kid fr lol
Hilarious
LMFAO true
Lol!!
"It doesn't look nice."
turns into a greek god pose
That image of a north Asian man drawing a heavy ass bow like that is probably one of the statistically most lethal sights on the planet over history.
I think you meant central asian, and there were deadly groups of bowmen around the world
I thought dawg was just swinging around 185lbs like it was nothing lmao
Same 😭🤣
Horizontally yes lol
He is pulling 185lbs like it's nothing in comparison to modern bows. A compound bow only needs about 40lbs of pull weight to drop a large deer. Same with a recurve so 185lbs in a medieval version of modern recurve bows could put a hole in a stone wall if the arrow is strong enough.
@@Aetherion223 so that’s what would happen if gunpowder was never invented
Ain’t that basically just a ballista then. Or a ummm, plybolos thingy the Romans used
Like lifting my freakin body weight with each arm. Crazy.
That’s not wat it meant that’s how much force u have to pull back with to pull the string back
@@losoloaded4188 that’s exactly what it meant
@@ascensionbeyond8413 he means the bow doesn't weight that much just the string
So it wouldn't be both hands
@@groyperfuhr4871 you do realise that you have to hold the bow steady with the other hand, dont you? You actually do half the work with each hand
“It’s doesn’t look nice”
Reality: Looks like a majestic ancient warrior
Majestic man boobs
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That's the most heroic pose anyone could do with a bow and arrow!
Really demonstrates how silly all those movie scenes are where the archers hold their warbows at full draw aimed at the protagonist for an extended period like it's nothing.
Yeah, after learning more about bow, those type of scenes are becoming annoying
Or how thin female warriors run around with a bow as if it's a machine gun - I don't think it would do all that much damage at their draw strength
@@m1chi13l Yea longbows being a dexterity-based weapon instead of a strength-based one in basically every medieval/fantasy tabletop RPG kind of drives me up the wall actually. An 8 strength/20 dexterity ranger should actually be garbage with that kind of heavy bow compared to the 20 strength/8 dexterity fighter, but it's the other way around.
@@carsonm7292because the higher dexterity would theoretically be able to shoot more arrows. Also not every bow has ridiculous draw strength like in the video
Well archer soldiers probably arent out of breath while explaining how to shoot a bow either lol this guy isnt very strong
Dude literally would have shit his pants if he tried to hold that a ½sec longer
who told you he didn't
But a diamond would have come out, his cheeks clinched so tight.
@@walshy2116 we gotta do a sound edited version with a very short and loud fart as soon as he shoots the arrow
@@decespugliatorenucleare3780 and the diamond coming out, don't forget the diamond
@@soupflood lots of diamonds
French knight: haha you look stoopid!
English longbowmen: you look dead.
english longbowman: arrow goes brrrr
French knight:no u
This is because the french learn from their mistakes
@Floron this is because the French learn from their mistakes
Longbows cant Pierce Plate
@@colechandler736
Longbows cant Pierce Plate
"Doesn't look nice" dude I could make a silhouette out of your stance and it would look more dope than the Jordan logo
I was about to give you a like until you dissed the Jordan logo. That pose is art.
Than the Jordan logo? Yeah you lost me with that one
@@sherlock7898 He didn't dis it. He said that the silhouette of this would be even better. Relax. It's praise.
@@sherlock7898 LOL chill. Lemme compliment a man.
He dissed the J’s. My fellow niggas that out the hood and went to an Ivy League school.
Time to use that minor degree in jumping and curb stomp this heretic.
I always thought the illustrations strange poses were just a stylistic thing from artists of the time, but this makes sense
Learned that functionality in the most difficult way. Never underestimate some of those manuscripts haha
You thought correctly. Not trying to discredit anyone, but he should be doing an angular draw with that heavy of a bow, not linear.
I mean... it is, you can't take those illustrations at face value, a lot of it are artists interpretation of things they don't understand very well. but that doesn't mean some are not accurate, specially if its specifically about the subject, like manuals.
Native Americans did this historically too
@@tiffanyvalencia8415 Yeah, but not with 160 lb warbows.
"it doesn't look nice"
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I don't get it
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@@asura8495 the joke is tiktok bad
Bro lol
@@rebelfriend1818 LMAO
You think back in the day, when one of your arms were bigger than the other people didn't suspect you of being a "naughty boy" but instead being one of the best archers in the army.
One arm wouldn't have been larger than the other - medieval archers used basically the whole upper body to draw back a war bow's string, and, it being their literal job, would train their upper body on the daily to keep their musculature in the necessary spec in order to be able to do so on demand. If anything would have given them away it'd have been the ridiculously large back muscles they'd have built up over the years (archers were trained from childhood) as basically no one else in the country would have been working their traps and lats to anywhere near a similar extent.
"It doesn't look nice"
Bro turned into Cupid 😭
The archery community is so supportive. Really puts a smile on my face.
Agreed
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The archery community in my experience is full of elitists “you can’t shoot a bow like that it’s wrong” type shit, who knows. Met far more educated and supportive people in shooting guns.
@@elkpants1280 I’ve got both, and practice both. Every community has them, but I don’t care what someone else says. Whether they have comments about my trap shooting or my traditional archery. I’ll challenge them to a shoot off and I’ll let the scoreboard speak for itself.
Not really from what I’ve seen it is full of toxic elitists lol. This guy is one of the rare nice ones
185 pounds at 32 inches? Sounds like my d-
Librarian: "sir we are going to have to ask you to log off"
Funniest shit I've seen all day lmao
Wtf Lol…😲😂🤣
Nice 👍
“Log” meaning…
Skallywang
Holy crap! You pulled that bare fingered? Mad respect to you Sir!
actually not fully
@@BrokeAgain AcKsHuAlLy
@@BrokeAgain Actually the commen't didn't specified the fullness of the pull they was amazed about, so it is still right.
ya it looked painful
I hunted and shot my compound on 85# draw with leather fingers and it after a few arrows it started to hurt. This dudes got strong fingers. Most use a trigger release and can't pull with just fingers lol
"It doesnt look nice"
*makes archery somehow even more dynamic and impressive and barely acknowledges it*
The common idea is that medieval archers were small scrawny men when in fact, they were extremely strong and muscular because of having to pull these heavy bows.
Edit: sorry about the misspell, what the fuck is going on in the comments 😂
Medical archers? Isn't that a huge conflict of interests?
@@TheBrushcutter Must be shooting arrows with healing potion strapped to it.
it’s the draw weight of the bow not how much it actually weighs.
@@AlejandroArch22 Noone ever claimed it was the weight of the bow.
@@danielantony1882 No they didn't. You're reaching. It was clearly implied they meant the draw weight, unless you're too stupid, or intentionally ignorant
it took my brain a little to comprehend that the weight meant the draw weight, not the actual bow. 1.5 of me dangling from the string would be needed to draw the bow (edit: apparently it's even more complicated than that, see second comment down, by Dakota Rossman, for actual explanation). that's amazing.
yeah its the pull weight
You could pull it, proper form, and disconcern for the task. You might be really good.
@Dakota Rossman that's way more impressive
@@yeetghostrat its not more complicated, you got it completely right.. 1,5 times your weight would be needed dangling from the string to pull it.
@Dakota Rossman i always wondered whether one should train both sides of the body to prevent this
Of course, what medieval archers also had were bones distorted by pulling heavy bows.
Me: taking notes. Also me: never needing this knowledge.
I read a Norman account of being ambushed by Welsh in the 11 century, they would fire from very short range, within 15 meters, direct line of sight, no lofting the arrows. He talked about one knight taking a shot in the leg that penatrated his mail, passed through the thigh, out the other side, through the horse, killing the animal. The power those things could generate was frightening, at longer ranges they are very hard to be accurate and take many years to master. If the English lost an archer it was a bad loss as they took so long to train.
Manchu archers did the same thing when against Ming Army, they aim on their face at 10 meters.
very very interesting
I can’t believe the weights this guy can pull effortlessly. Insane
That looked SO badass. You dont realize how much force is in the bowstring toll you hear and feel that release!
Homie really looked like he time travelled from medievial times to flex on us
Soldier 1: "Hey check out that archer, he looks stu...wow that's a lot of blood... it's mine..."
Underrated comment 😂😂😂😂
My mom actually taught me to draw a bow when she saw me struggling in archery class in college.
You have one hand holding the arrow on the knock of the string, and one on the bow handle ofcourse - as normal.
Lay the bow across your shoulder, the front of the bow facing up towards the sky.
Simultaneously, move the bow upwards from where you're holding the string, and push forwards away from you so the bow is arc'ing forwards to a normal position.
Never move the string from your shoulder until time to aim.
This allows you to use the full upper body, and instead of pulling the string back - you're pushing the bow forward; which is alot easier than pulling in my opinion.
Is this what he basically did in the video cause I can't fully picture what you're saying correctly?
@@GazB85
Not exactly - sorry it's a bit tricky to put to text positioning.
Basically you lay the bow across your shoulder with your bow-hand, then reach up to grab the string with your other.
You're going to push upwards from your shoulder with your bow hand, without moving your string hand - and then arc that bowhand forwards as you push.
Works everytime.
@@TheChefODoom When you say lay the bow across your shoulder, do you mean horizontally?
You also say "reach up with your other hand..", that I'm thinking makes it sound like you hold the bow horizontally in the air above your head in line with your shoulder.
@@GazB85 Well then it seems unless I take the time to draw you a diagram or make a video of my own, I'm not going to be able to convey this to you in a way that can be understood. Sorry bud.
Like a goddamn ballerina; the pose looks FABULOUS.
10/10 Styling on the armor boys.
What did God do?
“It doesn’t look nice”
I know, it looks menacing and badass
And that's why crossbows were a game changer, anyone can wind and aim a crossbow. Using a bow like this is very impressive though. I didn't know that's how you use one.
So THAT'S why Kung Fu has a Bow And Arrow Stance. It is literally the stance you use to draw powerful warbows.
That’s so interesting! I’ve seen paintings like this and thought the illustrators were just unskilled, but they were capturing something vital to the archers deadly technique 😮
Details in medieval drawings are quite accurate. Hand tools are portrayed impressively accurate and works perfectly, when recreated in our time.
I had always thought the same thing until seeing this video
@@OmmerSyssel This conversation dovetails nicely with the work done by Christopher Schwarz over at Lost Art Press. Dude has poured over old prints and paintings to produce his no-nonsense books of traditional woodworking.
If they were unskilled, they wouldn't be illustrating manuscripts and such in the first place. Give them some credit.
@@spades9681 What is the purpose of this comment dude lol? I’m literally admitting that I was wrong and over 100 people had a similar misunderstanding and your comment adds nothing of value to the convo except to say, “Don’t be wrong stupid. Try being right. It’s way better. I would know, I’m right a lot.” 😂
Ive drawn a 180 lb compound bow before. Felt like i was wrenching apart metal bars with my chest but i got it thankfully. This guy knows his stuff
Bruh that pose is worthy of a statue
Poor deer had a miniature black hole form when the arrow passed through to another dimension.
My nephew… he’s on a good 7th grade archery team in school. He was shooting for us at my target. I tried his bow a couple times and got it down. He did really good.
I went and got my compound bow… put my release on…. Because I need it for that bow to get accurate…. lol….
Bullseye…. Bullseye bullseye….
He asked to shoot my bow. Well obviously…..
“Sure let me show you how the release works and you can shoot my bow. 100%.”
I didn’t mention it was a 70+ lb draw and he’s a big kid… but he’s still not got grown man strength yet. He will….
I strapped my release on his wrist. Taught him about the trigger and being safe. Showed him the sight…
He 100% was all set up and expected to draw and shoot my bow….
Try one….. string dont budge….
Try two….. couple inches….
Try three…. Couple more inches and a red face. 😂😂😂
It’s hard to draw ain’t it?
“Yeah it’s really hard. I can’t do it.”
Well… that’s because it has a 70lb Draw weight. I make it look easy don’t I?
Big smile
“Yeah you do.”
New memory for the family and 100% one day soon he will have his own compound bow and kick my butt.
Anyone that bothered to read my story..
Did I do the right thing? Or should I have just told him he couldn’t pull it back to start with?
I knew he couldn’t. But I got to set him up on it and teach him about it this way. And he asked to try and I let him try. 😊
The fact that he drew back a 160lb now AND did it barehanded is insane. My hands are like leather and I’d only be able to do that a few times before I said “never again” lol. Seems like he’s done it a few DOZEN at least
Come to Mongolia. Women do it all the time in a competition.
@@MonBerry that sounds like a fun handjob
@@MonBerry the women’s bows are surely not that heavy
@@samgyeopsal569 have you seen their women?
@@samgyeopsal569 they’re still warbows so yeah they are. It’s not like the bows that heavy anyway, it’s the draw from the string. Doesn’t necessarily mean that 160lbs is what you have to pull, just that’s the tension on this bow, the weight is equivalent to the force you exert technically though.
Odysseus enters the chat
Hold my beer
You misspelled ale there gramps
No
@Bobbyjustbobby eat shit
Hahaha it still made sense no matter if it was able or beer that comment had me rolling 😂😂😂😂
Hold my wine 🍷 would be the correct libation.
My dude apologizes for looking silly whilst resembling the raw energy of Bernnini's 'David' of David & Goliath.
Bro is manifesting his ancestor's energy
Dude is so modest, “doesn’t look nice” then gracefully slocked it
Most of the time I see historical sword channels so it's good to see a historical bow channel
Love seeing a master at his craft
that grunt sounded like fart the first timd i heard it lol
That sounded like a hollow whistle.. if that's what your farts sound like you need to start pitching.
@Tom Steele this really went over your head, huh? 🤦 Oh sweet summer child.
Nah it was a fast car passing outside.
@@thisguy1413 you both made jokes both were silly don’t be gay like your joke just hv a chuckle n move on buddy boy ❤
@@sweatysack9103 I'm sorry, was that supposed to be English? I'm gonna need an interpreter for this broken attempt at communication. Enjoy your sweaty sacks, Captain Hetero.
Imagine the handshake from a medieval english archer who shot a 200 lbs bow for and hour everyday, pitched hay to his cattle and milked them morning and night.
"it doesn't look nice"
the force is strong with this one
My hunting bow feel like cheating after set this. Very impressive
Exactly, my hunting setup is 72 lbs with 80% letoff , and my target bow is at 45 lbs, with 70% letoff definitely feels like being a wimp compared to these old time archers pulling 180 lb bows with no letoff lol
@@bertbccfu9564 at least ya ain't setting up 200+ lb draw crossbow from back in the day 😂
@@SleepToNeverWakeAgain my grandpa loves his vintage crossbows
You draw the bow from your heels up. And you start training a bowman with his grandfather.
"doesn't look nice"
It looks POWERFUL
Great quick video! Also demonstrates the tremendous strength that all these wispy little fantasy elf types have when they can just hold these back for as long as they like
“it didn’t look nice.”
*proceeds to pull an absolute chad pose*
"It doesn't look nice."
Brother, you underestimate the length I'll go to ensure I survive and return home lmao.
Dude you look like every emblem of an archer. I love that form.❤
“It doesnt look nice” well ya see while you wield something that could probably pass through most people I believe the pose just adds some sass and i love it
He also forgets to explain that you shouldn’t just pull back on the string, you have to sort of reach over your head and then pull downward for your body to naturally pull back the string. It’s way easier than just pulling it back normally.
Now that's a stance.
“How to throw your back out with a heavy f****** bow” 😂
You'd be surprised what strengthening exercises can protect you from. As long as you don't twist under load you can tolerate a lot. More with work.
Hence, the phrase "put your back into it."
I always wondered why old school archers did that goofy pose and looked like that when they would shoot a long bow
The basis of many martial arts theory is that the most effective techniques usually don't look nice. So really, who cares what it looks like as long as it gets the job done.
This is what peak male performance looks like!
His first draw sounded like me this morning going poop
It's not really about "engaging the back muscles". It's about changing the geometry of both arms and the shoulders through the draw and using both arms to draw instead of one. Instead of leaving the bow arm in line with both shoulders and a long pull for the draw arm, you start with the bow closer to the draw arm shoulder and then swing it away as part of the draw. There's another version of this used in other archery traditions where you raise the bow above your head and then let it fall outward as part of the draw. The overhead draw is actually easier since it uses gravity more while the side swinging technique does require more from your back muscles.
Mannnnn that was clean aff😭
Am I the only one who sees this man hairdo? 😂😂
I subbed because of the hairdo
@@jesusmarco3846 I grubbed because of the hairdo
He’s talking about the bull hole muscles. Just let them relax and then squeeze
It's a warbow. It doesn't need to look nice. It's for war
That's a Welsh longbow which William the Conqueror/Bastard adopted in the English army after he discovered the importance of Archers on the battlefield the hard way. Longbowmen and Yeomen Archers were a must for English armies in medieval conflicts as they were the most efficient long range unit of that time in comparison with crossbows and horse archers.
“It doesn’t look nice”
Proceeds to hit the most majestic ahh testosterone fueled stance that has ever graced my mortal eyes
One of the biggest tragedies in movies is making archers scrawny
Archers are not scrawny men pulling a bow like video games and movies tell you
They are probably ripped with the amount of times they had to pull that fucking string
Probably the strongest men on the battlefield.
Funny enough, wielding a long sword is easier and faster than a short sword, which is another thing Hollywood does not like.
Archers I've met have crazy forearms
Bro 185 pounds and he is just casually holding it up without struggling, dude is strong as hell.
No it’s the pull force not the self weight of bow
@@HistoricalWeapons hey man no need to be humble, you were holding it with one hand at one point, absolute beast.
Good job, i’ll have to try that
Very impressive, 160lb is elite. Does your back ache at all from shooting such weights?
A little haha
I bet the fingers get a bit sore though lol
Lost knowledge. I've told people how heavy these English long bows were and they didn't believe me because their only frame of reference was modern compound and recurve bows that are much lighter. It's fascinating to me that lost knowledge needs to be rediscovered like this. It's true what they say "use it or lose it."
Hollywood always gets medieval archers wrong. Theyre never the small, skinny guys. English longbowmen were pulling their bodyweight repeatedly, and then holding it for the command to release. They were more than likely the taller individuals in a given army and had strong backs, arms and core.
That noise wasn't the arrow hitting the target, it was his fingertips hitting the ceiling. Seriously, no tab? I'm in pain.
Makes my back hurt looking at it. Lol.
Those tips though! What kind of bow?
self hickory ELB
Its a long bow. Built by him. Dude is talented
That shot sounded fucking powerful
The second one low key looks cooler than the first tbh
185# with no pull tab is crazyyyyyy for the fingers, this guy is a legennnnd!!!
Great video. For folks interested in a more detailed analysis, Justin Ma's Way of Archery youtube channel has a detailed video on 3 different techniques on utilizing the back muscles to draw heavy draw weight bows.
You didn't breath when you pulled like you said. You held your breath. I get it we all do it without knowing
Beautifully demonstrated.
medieval archers must have had godly backs bro
I love you!
Giggidy giggidy
And this is why you'll survive the apocalypse unnoticed
You’re right..if Robin Hood did that, Hollywood people would yelling “caaaaat”
Longbow archers who trained from youth had skeletons deformed by the extremity of the muscles used in bow firing and tended to be skeletally thick, again from constant training. They were built from the ground up for this.
Archers from older times have been found with deformed spines from the insanely powerful their bows were
99% of humans don't give people from centuries before us the credit they deserve for being experts at their craft. Now, people get excited by seeing a hobbyist blacksmith making a railroad spike knife, but back then, some people were really gods at their craft
Yes, I will definitely be putting this knowledge to good use very soon