Completed Pierre's 'Unblocking' book a couple of weeks ago. Have to say, after that & this class in particular, my mind is pretty blown away at the moment! Please pass on my thanks for these gems.
I thought I would share this with you, firstly without Pierre I could not have worked it out. Hope you understand this, but if you don't do a little research for yourself. This whole dialogue is set in the meadow, Phaedrus is the head. [264a5] The charioteer analogy is like the Katha Upanishad know yourself as the charioteer. The horses are our senses wondering about aimlessly. The Phaedrus compares to Soma chakra and the union of Shiva and shakti. Soma is the nectar. Which presupposes Socrates is Shiva and Phaedrus is shakti. The gods resided in the super- celestial heaven which above the three intellectual heavens. [there is also analogically three earthly ones] This super-celestial heaven is the kingdom of Cronus who is the highest pure intellect, in mythology he devours himself. Which means he perceives himself this is Atman. The kingdom of Cronus or Saturn if you prefer is the adytum the inner temple. This is also the meadow and the plain of truth. When the charioteer arrives at the super-celestial if he can control his horses is standing at the arch of the super-celestial heaven and this revolves or turns probably the "ousia" motion Pierre refers. When it does this the the charioteer is standing outside of himself with what is truly "Is". When he returns to the super-celestial heaven he can now banquet with the gods. Meaning he can drink the nectar, but the Phaedrus goes further than the Soma chakra iconography, because the horses are being feed ambrosia and nectar. One is solid and the other liquid. This is where I probably lose you; the solid food in meditation is the dialectic dispensing with the elements which are the dualities, the charioteer as brought them up from their gross form in the physical world. The nectar of immortality, is when the elements start to spill out again to return to the physical, the charioteer drinks them staying immortal. Obviously this is a mental meditation exercise. Cronus also in mythology devours and regurgitates his children. If the charioteer when he arrives in the super-celestial heaven does not control his horses he fails then Cronus spits them out from the super celestial heaven. I pieced this together by reading the work of the Areopagite which Pierre tells us about in some of his videos. The Areopagite is as good as Socrates once you start understanding him which is not easy at first. The standing outside of himself the Areopagite says it like being drunk out of ones wits. Next to Plato is the Areopagite and somewhere in between stands Pierre.
Completed Pierre's 'Unblocking' book a couple of weeks ago. Have to say, after that & this class in particular, my mind is pretty blown away at the moment! Please pass on my thanks for these gems.
Rest in peace Dr. Grimes.
I thought I would share this with you, firstly without Pierre I could not have worked it out. Hope you understand this, but if you don't do a little research for yourself.
This whole dialogue is set in the meadow, Phaedrus is the head. [264a5]
The charioteer analogy is like the Katha Upanishad know yourself as the charioteer. The horses are our senses wondering about aimlessly.
The Phaedrus compares to Soma chakra and the union of Shiva and shakti.
Soma is the nectar. Which presupposes Socrates is Shiva and Phaedrus is shakti.
The gods resided in the super- celestial heaven which above the three intellectual heavens. [there is also analogically three earthly ones] This super-celestial heaven is the kingdom of Cronus who is the highest pure intellect, in mythology he devours himself. Which means he perceives himself this is Atman. The kingdom of Cronus or Saturn if you prefer is the adytum the inner temple. This is also the meadow and the plain of truth.
When the charioteer arrives at the super-celestial if he can control his horses is standing at the arch of the super-celestial heaven and this revolves or turns probably the "ousia" motion Pierre refers.
When it does this the the charioteer is standing outside of himself with what is truly "Is". When he returns to the super-celestial heaven he can now banquet with the gods. Meaning he can drink the nectar, but the Phaedrus goes further than the Soma chakra iconography, because the horses are being feed ambrosia and nectar. One is solid and the other liquid.
This is where I probably lose you; the solid food in meditation is the dialectic dispensing with the elements which are the dualities, the charioteer as brought them up from their gross form in the physical world. The nectar of immortality, is when the elements start to spill out again to return to the physical, the charioteer drinks them staying immortal.
Obviously this is a mental meditation exercise.
Cronus also in mythology devours and regurgitates his children. If the charioteer when he arrives in the super-celestial heaven does not control his horses he fails then Cronus spits them out from the super celestial heaven.
I pieced this together by reading the work of the Areopagite which Pierre tells us about in some of his videos. The Areopagite is as good as Socrates once you start understanding him which is not easy at first.
The standing outside of himself the Areopagite says it like being drunk out of ones wits. Next to Plato is the Areopagite and somewhere in between stands Pierre.