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I am also a Krav practitioner. Krav Maga strategy is never to fight someone at their strength. Don't box with a boxer. He should have done more calf kicks till boxer can’t stand up anymore. Then take his legs out, (or Thai clinch and knee) and ground and pound which he did, but KM guy took risk to box for too long. A better boxer would have close in and Tyson him out.
What do you think if there are no rules and no gloves? Krav Maga attack areas that are forbidden in combat sports right? I have a friend who is also a Krav Maga practitioner. The moves that he showed me are quite brutal if they land. And you definitely needs to run if they lands.
Exactly!! I practice Krav Maga also and you would never box a boxer or kick with a kickboxer/TKD guy or Wrestle a wrestler etc. You leverage your strength against their weakness.
the krav maga guy doesn't use any techniques in krav maga itself, it's like kick boxer vs kick boxer, if you watch krav maga practitioners have techniques like strange blocks that are actually useless, even the krav maga guy only uses boxing punch techniques and kicks in kick boxing, he doesn't use the techniques in Krav Maga itself😂
In order to use Krav Maga, he has to get close to him. If he wants, he can kick him in the balls or gouge out his eye, but he doesn't.@@muhammadvincentdiaz
Krav maga isn't supposed to be in combat sports. I'm from Israel and while I was in the army we trained Krav Maga. It includes groin strikes, eye gouging, strikes with a rifle etc.
@@ivansyomkin2156 the problem with combat sports is they fight an equal opponent, which never happens in real life. They should spar against someone of different training, so they can see if it works. You know what a person is the going to do if you have the same training. Army Infantry 🇺🇸🫡
Something not mentioned here is that the boxer is at a huge disadvantage because of the grass and no shoes. You can get a lot more leverage with boxing shoes on a mat. When you train years on mats and transition to grass you realize quickly that you lose a lot of mobility and power. Now all the punches you've trained to take advantage of the torque from your legs and hips are diminished. When you fight on a mat your footwork is faster and you can really dig into the mat to generate force. The Krav guy is probably more used to fighting on different surface areas being that it's self defense oriented. Krav guy would have probably still won but it's worth considering.
Meh, you mostly train on whatever surface the gym has as a floor and in whatever footwear you bring with you only entering ring for sparring and fights, so it's not like boxers don't know how to move& fight outside the ring. It's just that this guy's footwork and torso work are worse than ones of juniors in my fairly average gym
They were both at this disadvantage and the Krav Maga guy didn’t use all of the Krav Maga moves he kept it simple and waited for the opening so I’d say he did the boxer a favor by not grabbing him and elbowing his face or kneeing him but that’s just my take you should watch some Krav Maga videos it’s crazy what they can do in such little time
In the years I did train it was mostly in shoes. Which is typically what you’d be wearing were you attacked on the streets. I’d say it’s even as far as footing goes.
It's been many years friend and I'm glad you've never changed. "It doesn't matter how many years you played Street Fighter 2 if you've never thrown a hadouken in a real fight"
@@notproductiveproductions3504 I gotta be real.. that's the first time in awhile I've actually laughed out loud. I don't even have a comeback thank you
Wow, very good fight. I was legitimately impressed by the Krav Maga guy, who I was certain would be picked apart by the boxer in no time. If he only does Krav, and has no other training experience in other styles/systems, then it's pretty obvious that at whatever Krav Maga school he trains at, they spar regularly, and his instructor definitely incorporates alot of boxing/kickboxing into the Krav curriculum. He definitely did an outstanding job. Well done mate!
Krav Maga is actually like a fusion of lots of martial arts, the firs thing you learn is how to punch like they do in boxing, but you also learn lots of defenses for everything, we also don't do spars training in the classes, it's just that we train lots of different attacks and defenses from differents martial arts
@@gabrielromero2385 if you don't spar, it's time to look at another school. When I did my instructor training with Itay Gil 3 years ago, at the end of every 8 hour day would be 30 minutes sparring. And on the last day would be pressure testing techniques then an hour sparring with 20 minutes of that being grappling. If my previous 9 years before that didn't include regular sparring I'd have failed the course.
I practiced Krav Maga for 3 years, and yes krav maga uses some boxes hits, but against a boxer indeed i would explore more what is not his environment, like kicks elbow and in this case maybe taking the fight to the ground. Nice job both of them
@@terron7840 its simplified MMA without the less effective acrobatic stuff as i understand it. In BJJ you can spend years on very advanced tecniques which you will rarely use unless its against a very skilled enemy that also know BJJ, someone that fights in MMA will have to learn that since these are the types they fight in the ring, but the krav maga practictioner wont waste time on that since odds are close to 0 he will ever have to fight a BJJ brown or blackbelt, its not worth spending time on learning.
Really enjoyable fight and commentary! Even if he isn't the best boxer, there seems to be a lot here to learn from, like how useful that sweep could be at the end.
@@hb-ol9oc The older I get, I find the more I can learn from anything. Not everyone finds their luck this way, however. Trust you can find your growth as you engage with content, with others, or with your own attempts at development. All the best!
Krav Maga is not ment for these fights. KM is ment for real life situations where the goal is not to engage in combat at all until absolutely necessary.Given such a situation a KM fighter would not fight with gloves in a hit and back up style like this one did. It would be more like endless aggression until the initial attacker isnt able to fight or backs up by himself. The KM guy in this video just fights like a kickboxer...
yeah i hate when people watch videos from youtube and they say that certain martial art isnt good like bruh do they even think that that is one video it doesnt represent whole martial art
Absolutely agree, and not only that, it is also appreciated that since they are going to carry out a sports match, both contenders have similar physical abilities. I'm tired of seeing fights where the MMA representative is clearly an athlete (8h and 6 days a week) and the KM representative is the photocopy guy.
Mostly because most Krav clubs are bad. It's a buzz word gym that offers nothing, or it's the real deal. Never seen anything in between, and unfortunately far more common to see garbage gyms teaching bad practices. A shame really.
Krav maga guy looked in his element good win! Shinigami is right, experiencing certain kicks for the first time is mind blowing and if your body is trained you can only receive so many before losing your base for good. That's why Thai fighters take the W with their roundhouses.
It's interesting to see the comments here about kicks, because all the kicks he used aren't even the full frontal and very effective direct krav maga kicks.
As a Krav Maga practitioner, it is appreciated that since they are going to carry out a sports combat, both contenders have similar physical abilities. I'm tired of seeing fights where the MMA representative is clearly an athlete (8h of training and 6 days a week) and the KM representative is the photocopy guy. When the weights and the hours of training are similar, the results of a sporting combat can surprise many people (although Krav Maga is not sports-oriented), and good Krav Maga schools, those that invest time in sparring they can train highly skilled fighters.
Right real Krav maga is Not a sport. In real combat there are no rules. If you can tear off or hit the testicles you should do that. A boxer or kickboxer is not aware that his balls dont dongel very long. In real combat.
Krav Maga has many excellent philosophies and attacks and anyone that says otherwise is obviously unintelligent. Enjoy your Krav. I just do Karate for now but I'm interested in taking some Krav Maga classes in the near future.
Back in the day, I went from shotakan to kickboxing. This was right around the time that jiu jitsu was getting popular. We didn't have a lot of real wrestlers in my area (no wrestling programs at schools in my state). I did meet some really talented wrestlers in college. Most of the good ones seemed to be from the mid-west. I got away with a lot, just by learning to sprawl. I stuffed a lot of takedowns, and was able to stay on my feet with just a sprawl. When they did manage to get their hands on me, it wasn't good. I have definitely been ragdolled and twisted. But yeah, takedown and ground defense is a must for a striker.
@@letsdothis9063haha, I also went Shotokan to kickboxing. The thing is I knew what my weaknesses were as a striker, so I took wrestling classes for a while. I was never very good at winning wrestling bouts, but I knew how to escape grapples and bad positions better than anyone. I'm now looking to see if I can actually improve my groundwork by taking up Jiu Jitsu. Karate is still my core, but if I mess up and get to the ground I want to learn how to do more than just escape.
I didn't realize how effective leg kicks were. I guess since ufc guys are conditioned more to take them they just make them look easy to take but look what happens against regular athletes. Amazing
From what little I remember about Krav Maga, it was all about kneeing the other person in the groin, over and over. I wouldn't expect them to allow that sort of behavior in a sport.
Pretty much the essence of Krav is to knee to the groin and headbutt with cheeky elbows eye gouging. There are no rules. It is for life-threatening situations, not entertainment, which is why it is not allowed in entertainment sports like MMA. I do not even know why this is happening tbh
Krav Maga is meant to completely decimate and neutralize threats by any means necessary. It's not meant to be a sport. Fish hooks, groin shots, eye pokes, whatever it takes. It was designed with military and police in mind.
It swas legal from UFC 2-14. A ton of self-defense, “anything goes” guys competed during that time. Only one fight in all those events ended to but shots, Keith Hackney Va Joe Son.
In actuality, it’s just whatever martial arts the instructor happens to know combined with a set of mental principles. So there’s no real point to calling this or anything else Krav Maga
I took Krav Maga. All of this guys training went out the window and he resorted to just throwing punches. Krav Maga is mostly defense against knife attacks. It’s not a true mma killer.
Welp, krav maga guy could have ended the fight almost immediately if he wrestled the boxer to the ground, just as it happened right there at the end. It's nice to have shinigami in the commentary btw. I was also surprised about the boxer's willingness to throw leg kicks and even a backfist. Very entertaining match overall
The KM guy really should have known better than to toy with little calf kicks and treating it like sparring practice. He should have clinched up first thing and unloaded knees, elbows and headbutts in a mad flurry and ended the fight asap.
Just like Randy Couture vs James Toney. Double leg within seconds, and ground pound. That would be ideal. But Krav practitioner’s ground game varies. Not all are comfortable to go to ground immediately
I think the Krav Maga guy throwing those lead pendulum-style leg kicks would utilize them a lot better as a countering/intercepting "stop hit," sitting at kicking range, waiting for the other guy to start to take a step in to close space for punching distance, then step in or to the outside and "sweep the leg, Johnny." LOL. If you want to see a really good predominantly boxer/ju-jitsu leg-kicker, check out one of Nate Diaz's most recent fights, I forget which one, but he uses a punishing leg-kick follow-up with some boxing combos. No-can defend, leg-kick style. Sawadeekhap!
“Krav Maga” Guy is clearly trained in Muay Thai or MMA or Kickboxing or at very least his gym heavily incorporates these concepts. I have NEVER seen a Krav guy (im sure legit Israeli commandos can use if effectively) perform this way. Every Krav practitioner could be obliterated by a high school wrestler unless they are training another legit martial art.
This is a silly comparison. Krav Maga is not a competitive sport like wrestling. It's meant to neutralize threats as quickly as possible. Proper KM training is applied in a "no rules" environment. A high school wrestler would have a broken joint within minutes of a real fight with a KM practitioner. Now, compare someone trained in MMA vs someone solely trained in high school wrestling and the wrestler will get stomped every time.
Until the km guy used a thumb to the eye, throat grab, or elbow to the back of the head. Sport is just that, sport. It matters on the streets. Ending things as quickly and violently as possible
@@boom-bm1kl yeah I hate to burst your bubble but the sport mma athlete can do that too but he can do it better than KM guy because he is used to full resistant sparring. If you cant spar with the technique you WILL fail with it.
The crab mega guy isn't even doing crab mega. He's just boxing like the other guy. He can't even catch an arm or move out of the way and drop him. They're both boxers it's boxing
Krav maga is a tactical advantage too winning a fight or confrontation as fast as possible using specific moves when struck at or when giving a strike. This instead turned into an ordinary fight.
Years ago in college I sat and watched a heavy weight karate competitor from South Africa spar with a Golden Gloves boxer from New Jersey. Forty years ago? So memories fade, but I recall both held their own. No grappling, but competitive.
Nice to see a review on that German promotion. I like it a lot because there are some fighters with potential but it is relativly small and they still fight outside without a cage. This specific fight was good but as a krav maga practitioner by myself I do not get the point of training krav maga for a sports event with MMA rules. There is a lot of stuff you cannot use in MMA from specific areas of attack to tactics, multiple attackers and weapons... but anyway nice to see the progress of Malte.
This fight, seemingly of two amateur fighters (both skilled and trained well above average, admittedly) was more interesting to watch than a lot of pro fights in the big arenas. I find it amusing, however, how many Krav Maga practitioners there are out there, sitting at a desk, each and everyone of them an absolute expert in their armchair, probably hugging their waifu pillow and a bag of Doritos when they aren't typing, and explaining to me, for example, what Krav Maga is 'ackchiully' about and how the guy in the video doesn't do it the right way. Truly inspiring to see. Thanks for clearing things up for us regular people, whom you'd totally dominate in your shower thoughts.
Me as a boxer I went into boxing learning jujitsu and also before doing boxing I was doing jujitsu and kickboxing so I do have a little bit of experience to not letting the fight go to the ground and if it does I’ll be OK if it does I think if you’re gonna learn one martial art you should try to learn more than one
yes if you go down in KM, the first thing you'e going to do is keep one leg firmly placed and get some kicks in with the other or make yourself small and protect your head at all costs. The boxer seems a bit in shock once he went down and failed to protect himself
All kickboxing techniques are part of krav maga so he was doing krav maga actually. You must be under the illusion that krav maga is just front kick to the groin and eye gouges
As a krav maga practitioner. Fighting a boxer with boxing technique is hopeless since he has more experience in boxing. So if krav maga wants to win he could have knocked boxer out at first round by first delivering a few punches and then finisher with a roundhouse kick to thigh or as the boxer is trying to punch him and he's able to read the path of his punches he could punch once and fake another unch then use double leg takedown and an arm bar would be enough to make his punches slow and weak or he would tap out because of pain
It's a sports fight. I didn't notice any kicks to the crotch zone, for example. It works well for accepting hits or orienting yourself in combat. But this is not a typical krav maga fight.
Not a fair fight . Krav maga teaches throat jabs and eye pokes and gouges and knees and kicks to the balls and elbows etc etc . That’s not being allowed especially with gloves so Krav Maga can’t fully be used in “ competition “ . That’s why it’s designed as self defense on the street to survive . Can’t be measured this way . This is boxing purely . Which obviously gives the advantage to the boxer .
I think it is kick boxing vs kick boxing. In krav maga, you kick the groin, break the floating ribs, and then crush a brick onto your opponent's head. The guy without the shirt may be kraver, but he is not using krav maga. What I mean is that this is not Krav vs Kick Boxer. Street fight (and Krav Maga and other combat techniques) is not about who is more skilled with jabs and round kicks or Jiu-Jitsu style tricks, it is about who causes severe injury and trauma first. That is the main difference between today's martial arts and fighting (combat or defense) systems.
I am very thankful that I studied Krav Maga. Most of the training does not involve contact, so I've suffered no injuries. The basic fighting tecniques it taught protected me in every ( stupid ) bar fight I was in years ago. Even at middle age, I feel that I could disarm a knife or club. Not a gun though. Not a gun.
What fight were you watching Jerry? LOOL Boxing guy did well but was never winning, he caught Krav dude a few times but Krav dude landed just as many important hits if not more, and was far more varied in attack. respect for admitting bias via edit comments though I respect that.
@@hozza0411 The big puffy gloves only soften a punch, so if Tyson could easily deliver a knockout with those pillows, just imagine the power on a chin with a smaller glove. I'm quite confident that even today he could take out most intermediate fighters with a jab. Don't forget that with his neck being the same width as his whole head he could, can take a punch too, not just give.
Was the Krav Maga practicioner allowed to do everything he learned? Like knee kicks into groin and balls? Using ellbows? Grappling? Or was he just allowed fist punches and kicks, which is max. 20% of all Krav Maga skills...he might have ended the story much faster otherwise😂
Probably pretty standard MMA rules. So elbows, knees, grappling all fine, but nothing to the eyes, throat, back of the head, or groin. Still confused why he stood up and kickboxed with him most of the fight though. Lots of trading punches, and that's not something I'd be keen to do if I knew I was fighting a boxer. If he'd have gone in for a solid single leg or clinched up and thrown some knees, things could have been much different, as I don't know if the boxer really had an answer for it.
Krav maga isn't a sport though, it's a self defense system; so it would consist of kicking the boxer in the balls, kneeing him in the head, then leaving. This was two boxers who threw in some kicks, and ended with some grappling. They're both skilled and it was a great match, but not an accurate krav maga application.
1:39 the overhand or cross speed change is what landed that punch he threw it at a slower speed originally I thought but after re-watching it the speed change I seen was in fact a feint of a jab then cross the boxer has some slippery stuff I wish he would have worked angles more instead of just going straight forward head to head with him.
Awwwwwwwe MANNNNNNN! ALL i see is KICK BOXING! (i just wanted to see what it felt like to be a youtube troll master/armchair warrior for a brief moment and say EVERYTHING JUST LOOKS LIKE KICK BOXIN).
I knew it! I knew if it went to the ground, the boxer would be done for. I'm not surprised that the boxer landed more punches, but thats because he is a boxer... Krav Maga has a number of techniques that can be pretty affective outside of the ring... and nearly every Israeli knows it. I'm not too sure how effective Krav Maga would be in combat sports. I guess that all depends on the practitioner.
A punch is a punch and a kick is a kick. Doesn’t matter what martial art you start with, it’s all mma really now and it’s all down to the individual fighter not the art
I took a couple of years of Krav Maga and would have taken more if circumstances had allowed me to do so. My sense of the Krav Maga ideal is that if one is still fighting three minutes after the first punch is thrown, one hasn't really accomplished what Krav Maga is intended to do. I had a couple of police officers in the first class I took, and they both talked about how they couldn't afford to be exchanging punches for three minutes in a real encounter. I don't say this to put down what this gentleman accomplished. He fought a great fight, and I congratulate him on his win. He's clearly done a huge amount of training and sparring. I would never have been able to fight with him even if my health hadn't failed. I just don't see what he demonstrated here as typical Krav Maga fighting. Both of these guys did a great job and are to be commended for their dedication to their work.
As an Israeli I always sort of root for Krav Maga, but honestly I was betting on the boxer and sort of surprised the KM guy won. Why? Well, ppl forget KM is not a competitive sport, its sole purpose is to end real world melee as quickly as possible (whether by escape or deescalation or severely injuring an attacker) and the moment you are in a ring with rules in place, you're already out of your element. The KM guy won because he had some training in leg kicks, takedowns and ground work. But you don't necessarily have to be good at any of those, or even taking or throwing punches to be a good KM practitioner. You're trained to break fingers to get out of grapples, then gouge eyes to end the fight. It's not a sport, and with sporting rules you're crippled or you're on your own relying on how good of a kickboxer or grappler you are.
Both tough guys. The boxer fought straight up, very little slipping or head movement. Ate a lot of straight right hands. Early Tyson was a master of bob, weave, then counter punch.
KM isn't the kind of 'protected' form like muay thai or BJJ is where you have some specific requirements to call yourself "instructor". You or me could open up a Krav Maga training center tomorrow without knowing more than how to spell the name. The fact that a lot of wannabes sell bullshido that way is the reason there's so many people getting their rears kicked.
He did use krav maga here, krav maga has striking and grappling techniques from other martial arts. There is no such thing as a krav maga technique only krav maga principles. Every technique he used is part of every krav maga schools curriculum
Boxing is a gentlemans sport with rules. Krav Maga is a fight for your life fight skill. My trainers told me to learn every fight skill but perfect boxing with all the physical strength from other fighting skills you learn. You become a shadow when striking the vitals with combos when perfecting the distance.
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Bring back Shinigami soon!
To be a boxer you actually have to have boxing skills and know how to box.
I love krav just the thing of cardio I'm working on green belt love it then doing jiu jitsu but it's a hard sport but pushing forward in my journey 😊
That guy is not a boxer. One tell is that he’s arm-punching. Another tell is that when attacked he moved straight back. That’s a no-no in boxing.
I am also a Krav practitioner. Krav Maga strategy is never to fight someone at their strength. Don't box with a boxer. He should have done more calf kicks till boxer can’t stand up anymore. Then take his legs out, (or Thai clinch and knee) and ground and pound which he did, but KM guy took risk to box for too long. A better boxer would have close in and Tyson him out.
Everyone's got a plan till they get punched in the mouth!!
-Mike Tyson
What do you think if there are no rules and no gloves? Krav Maga attack areas that are forbidden in combat sports right?
I have a friend who is also a Krav Maga practitioner. The moves that he showed me are quite brutal if they land. And you definitely needs to run if they lands.
@@ekot0419 all that cute “forbidden technique” bs is useless if you got no hands or wrestling
@@gerardocastorena5165 true, unless it's a Kali guy with a knife.
Exactly!! I practice Krav Maga also and you would never box a boxer or kick with a kickboxer/TKD guy or Wrestle a wrestler etc. You leverage your strength against their weakness.
*"Everybody has a plan until they get kicked in the leg"*
-Muai Thaison
the krav maga guy doesn't use any techniques in krav maga itself, it's like kick boxer vs kick boxer, if you watch krav maga practitioners have techniques like strange blocks that are actually useless, even the krav maga guy only uses boxing punch techniques and kicks in kick boxing, he doesn't use the techniques in Krav Maga itself😂
Great one!
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In order to use Krav Maga, he has to get close to him. If he wants, he can kick him in the balls or gouge out his eye, but he doesn't.@@muhammadvincentdiaz
Such a great comment hahahaha
Krav maga isn't supposed to be in combat sports. I'm from Israel and while I was in the army we trained Krav Maga. It includes groin strikes, eye gouging, strikes with a rifle etc.
@@ivansyomkin2156 the problem with combat sports is they fight an equal opponent, which never happens in real life. They should spar against someone of different training, so they can see if it works. You know what a person is the going to do if you have the same training. Army Infantry 🇺🇸🫡
@johngillespie3409 the salary of a military man in the US is good ?
Something not mentioned here is that the boxer is at a huge disadvantage because of the grass and no shoes. You can get a lot more leverage with boxing shoes on a mat. When you train years on mats and transition to grass you realize quickly that you lose a lot of mobility and power. Now all the punches you've trained to take advantage of the torque from your legs and hips are diminished. When you fight on a mat your footwork is faster and you can really dig into the mat to generate force. The Krav guy is probably more used to fighting on different surface areas being that it's self defense oriented. Krav guy would have probably still won but it's worth considering.
Fair fight is always a matter of perspective.
Meh, you mostly train on whatever surface the gym has as a floor and in whatever footwear you bring with you only entering ring for sparring and fights, so it's not like boxers don't know how to move& fight outside the ring. It's just that this guy's footwork and torso work are worse than ones of juniors in my fairly average gym
They were both at this disadvantage and the Krav Maga guy didn’t use all of the Krav Maga moves he kept it simple and waited for the opening so I’d say he did the boxer a favor by not grabbing him and elbowing his face or kneeing him but that’s just my take you should watch some Krav Maga videos it’s crazy what they can do in such little time
@@ДимаВеселов-в8и You are so butt hurt LOL
In the years I did train it was mostly in shoes. Which is typically what you’d be wearing were you attacked on the streets. I’d say it’s even as far as footing goes.
This is the first time I saw a Krav guy actually know how to fight. Usually when they go against MMA, they get knocked down in seconds.
I mean if it were me, I’d just grape them in the mouth
he's clearly done some fighting
Bc he’s not just krav maga he’s barely even using it
Because it's shite
lol. Whoever is giving you your information on Krav Maga is feeding you junk.
It's been many years friend and I'm glad you've never changed.
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Hey man! How you been?
lmaooooooo love this comment
Instructions not clear, I threw a Shoryuken
@@notproductiveproductions3504 I gotta be real.. that's the first time in awhile I've actually laughed out loud. I don't even have a comeback thank you
Very interesting, you never want to go down on the floor - but if you wind up there you need to have a game.
Wow, very good fight. I was legitimately impressed by the Krav Maga guy, who I was certain would be picked apart by the boxer in no time. If he only does Krav, and has no other training experience in other styles/systems, then it's pretty obvious that at whatever Krav Maga school he trains at, they spar regularly, and his instructor definitely incorporates alot of boxing/kickboxing into the Krav curriculum. He definitely did an outstanding job.
Well done mate!
Yeah I wouldn't describe his style as Krav Maga. He fought like an mma fighter imo. His stance and everything was mma style.
Krav Maga is actually like a fusion of lots of martial arts, the firs thing you learn is how to punch like they do in boxing, but you also learn lots of defenses for everything, we also don't do spars training in the classes, it's just that we train lots of different attacks and defenses from differents martial arts
@@ryannath85 Krav Maga itself is a mix of many martial arts
@@gabrielromero2385 we do sparring in krav maga too. It depends on your dojo.
@@gabrielromero2385 if you don't spar, it's time to look at another school. When I did my instructor training with Itay Gil 3 years ago, at the end of every 8 hour day would be 30 minutes sparring. And on the last day would be pressure testing techniques then an hour sparring with 20 minutes of that being grappling. If my previous 9 years before that didn't include regular sparring I'd have failed the course.
I practiced Krav Maga for 3 years, and yes krav maga uses some boxes hits, but against a boxer indeed i would explore more what is not his environment, like kicks elbow and in this case maybe taking the fight to the ground.
Nice job both of them
Krav Maga is kind of like MMA, but with no rules. The Krav Maga guy was basically doing just that.
@@terron7840 its simplified MMA without the less effective acrobatic stuff as i understand it. In BJJ you can spend years on very advanced tecniques which you will rarely use unless its against a very skilled enemy that also know BJJ, someone that fights in MMA will have to learn that since these are the types they fight in the ring, but the krav maga practictioner wont waste time on that since odds are close to 0 he will ever have to fight a BJJ brown or blackbelt, its not worth spending time on learning.
This is just MMA Vs MMA.
I’ll say great job by both for going in and respectfully working their fight.
They have emphasis on a certain technique but both used MMA.
Really enjoyable fight and commentary! Even if he isn't the best boxer, there seems to be a lot here to learn from, like how useful that sweep could be at the end.
Yeah, I like this lot too!
Nothing to learn here, it was boxer vs boxer with kicks and a little mma at the end.
@@hb-ol9oc The older I get, I find the more I can learn from anything. Not everyone finds their luck this way, however. Trust you can find your growth as you engage with content, with others, or with your own attempts at development. All the best!
@@hb-ol9ocpues esa es la idea no xd ? Hay bastantes cosas buenas que aprender
Krav Maga is not ment for these fights. KM is ment for real life situations where the goal is not to engage in combat at all until absolutely necessary.Given such a situation a KM fighter would not fight with gloves in a hit and back up style like this one did. It would be more like endless aggression until the initial attacker isnt able to fight or backs up by himself. The KM guy in this video just fights like a kickboxer...
@phronesis1642 and to be quite fair, the boxers delivery system is not that great.
His Krav Maga is being tested and you don’t like the results.
Really interesting how quickly it turned around when they hit the ground. Thanks for the video!
It's nice to see a Krav guy properly represent us for once, I see too many Krav guys from bad clubs giving it a bad reputation.
I think it's because a lot of them don't actually do sparring... this guy did an awesome job
yeah i hate when people watch videos from youtube and they say that certain martial art isnt good like bruh do they even think that that is one video it doesnt represent whole martial art
Absolutely agree, and not only that, it is also appreciated that since they are going to carry out a sports match, both contenders have similar physical abilities. I'm tired of seeing fights where the MMA representative is clearly an athlete (8h and 6 days a week) and the KM representative is the photocopy guy.
Mostly because most Krav clubs are bad. It's a buzz word gym that offers nothing, or it's the real deal. Never seen anything in between, and unfortunately far more common to see garbage gyms teaching bad practices. A shame really.
This KM guy trained in mma too
Krav maga guy looked in his element good win! Shinigami is right, experiencing certain kicks for the first time is mind blowing and if your body is trained you can only receive so many before losing your base for good. That's why Thai fighters take the W with their roundhouses.
Those kick hurt
It's interesting to see the comments here about kicks, because all the kicks he used aren't even the full frontal and very effective direct krav maga kicks.
It's Krav Ma-Ga-Ga, not Krav Maga, didn't you hear the commentators?
As a Krav Maga practitioner, it is appreciated that since they are going to carry out a sports combat, both contenders have similar physical abilities. I'm tired of seeing fights where the MMA representative is clearly an athlete (8h of training and 6 days a week) and the KM representative is the photocopy guy. When the weights and the hours of training are similar, the results of a sporting combat can surprise many people (although Krav Maga is not sports-oriented), and good Krav Maga schools, those that invest time in sparring they can train highly skilled fighters.
Krav has tournaments. Explain
Right real Krav maga is Not a sport. In real combat there are no rules. If you can tear off or hit the testicles you should do that.
A boxer or kickboxer is not aware that his balls dont dongel very long. In real combat.
Krav Maga has many excellent philosophies and attacks and anyone that says otherwise is obviously unintelligent. Enjoy your Krav. I just do Karate for now but I'm interested in taking some Krav Maga classes in the near future.
As a KM black belt myself, I appreciate them not just trashing him but you would like to see him fight strength v weakness
There is no bad technique/Skill in this World, it all depends on who uses, Every technique can be effective. All Martial Arts style must be respected.
No😂
@@bigmanjoe3603y not
Nope. Some are definitely more useful than others, some are useless and have little real life application
Krav Maga isn’t a martial art
@@kordelljones7942if its not a martial art, what is it than?
Respect to both guys, good fight. No matter what, as a striker you need to at least learn how to get out of a guard and a mount.
Back in the day, I went from shotakan to kickboxing. This was right around the time that jiu jitsu was getting popular.
We didn't have a lot of real wrestlers in my area (no wrestling programs at schools in my state). I did meet some really talented wrestlers in college. Most of the good ones seemed to be from the mid-west.
I got away with a lot, just by learning to sprawl. I stuffed a lot of takedowns, and was able to stay on my feet with just a sprawl.
When they did manage to get their hands on me, it wasn't good. I have definitely been ragdolled and twisted.
But yeah, takedown and ground defense is a must for a striker.
@@letsdothis9063haha, I also went Shotokan to kickboxing.
The thing is I knew what my weaknesses were as a striker, so I took wrestling classes for a while. I was never very good at winning wrestling bouts, but I knew how to escape grapples and bad positions better than anyone. I'm now looking to see if I can actually improve my groundwork by taking up Jiu Jitsu. Karate is still my core, but if I mess up and get to the ground I want to learn how to do more than just escape.
I didn't realize how effective leg kicks were. I guess since ufc guys are conditioned more to take them they just make them look easy to take but look what happens against regular athletes. Amazing
Also, one good counter by a trained guy and your foot is wrecked.
From what little I remember about Krav Maga, it was all about kneeing the other person in the groin, over and over. I wouldn't expect them to allow that sort of behavior in a sport.
Pretty much the essence of Krav is to knee to the groin and headbutt with cheeky elbows eye gouging. There are no rules. It is for life-threatening situations, not entertainment, which is why it is not allowed in entertainment sports like MMA. I do not even know why this is happening tbh
It's not a sport
It's a self defence system
Krav Maga is meant to completely decimate and neutralize threats by any means necessary.
It's not meant to be a sport. Fish hooks, groin shots, eye pokes, whatever it takes.
It was designed with military and police in mind.
It swas legal from UFC 2-14. A ton of self-defense, “anything goes” guys competed during that time. Only one fight in all those events ended to but shots, Keith Hackney Va Joe Son.
In actuality, it’s just whatever martial arts the instructor happens to know combined with a set of mental principles. So there’s no real point to calling this or anything else Krav Maga
I took Krav Maga. All of this guys training went out the window and he resorted to just throwing punches. Krav Maga is mostly defense against knife attacks. It’s not a true mma killer.
Even back in the 70's when they started putting karate matches in TV, the old guys said it looks like boxing with kicks. I was young, but I remember.
It's important to note that Boxing is the essence of Krav Maga.
Nice to see that the boxer turned his foot a bit when he threw that last leg kick so i think it isn't his first time kicking
Welp, krav maga guy could have ended the fight almost immediately if he wrestled the boxer to the ground, just as it happened right there at the end.
It's nice to have shinigami in the commentary btw.
I was also surprised about the boxer's willingness to throw leg kicks and even a backfist. Very entertaining match overall
The KM guy really should have known better than to toy with little calf kicks and treating it like sparring practice. He should have clinched up first thing and unloaded knees, elbows and headbutts in a mad flurry and ended the fight asap.
Just like Randy Couture vs James Toney. Double leg within seconds, and ground pound. That would be ideal. But Krav practitioner’s ground game varies. Not all are comfortable to go to ground immediately
@@katze97 I can imagine, it must depend on which is the background or base of the krav place where he trains at
You don’t know that!
The boxer had better kicks aswell
I think the Krav Maga guy throwing those lead pendulum-style leg kicks would utilize them a lot better as a countering/intercepting "stop hit," sitting at kicking range, waiting for the other guy to start to take a step in to close space for punching distance, then step in or to the outside and "sweep the leg, Johnny." LOL. If you want to see a really good predominantly boxer/ju-jitsu leg-kicker, check out one of Nate Diaz's most recent fights, I forget which one, but he uses a punishing leg-kick follow-up with some boxing combos. No-can defend, leg-kick style. Sawadeekhap!
Good fight. Perfect timing on the leg sweep. The boxer at a distinct disadvantage on the ground. Evenly matched until then I would say.
Looking at this from a Muay Thai perspective there were so many opportunities for a flying knee on that boxer
The boxer is throwing more punches but if you pay attention, 76% of the boxer's punches are being blocked.
That's not a professional boxer
76%😂
He's definitely not a trained boxer .
@@michaelmarquis1824 Really ?.. hahaha
Amazing fight!!!! Well done to both dudes
“Krav Maga” Guy is clearly trained in Muay Thai or MMA or Kickboxing or at very least his gym heavily incorporates these concepts. I have NEVER seen a Krav guy (im sure legit Israeli commandos can use if effectively) perform this way. Every Krav practitioner could be obliterated by a high school wrestler unless they are training another legit martial art.
No Krav maga is military MMA if trained correctly it’s the most dangerous martial art as it’s used mainly for killing in certain scenarios
This is a silly comparison. Krav Maga is not a competitive sport like wrestling. It's meant to neutralize threats as quickly as possible. Proper KM training is applied in a "no rules" environment. A high school wrestler would have a broken joint within minutes of a real fight with a KM practitioner. Now, compare someone trained in MMA vs someone solely trained in high school wrestling and the wrestler will get stomped every time.
@@NicholasChristyC I think what dude was saying is the person KM would get 'neutralized' by the high school grappler
Until the km guy used a thumb to the eye, throat grab, or elbow to the back of the head. Sport is just that, sport. It matters on the streets. Ending things as quickly and violently as possible
@@boom-bm1kl yeah I hate to burst your bubble but the sport mma athlete can do that too but he can do it better than KM guy because he is used to full resistant sparring. If you cant spar with the technique you WILL fail with it.
Stylistically both look similar and largely seem evenly matched.
Fairplay to both men for having the balls to have it.
The crab mega guy isn't even doing crab mega. He's just boxing like the other guy.
He can't even catch an arm or move out of the way and drop him. They're both boxers it's boxing
I am not a trained fighter but if in a street situation with a lot of people ⭕ circling would you go to the ground ?
No 👍
A GOOD, HONEST FIGHT WITH GOOD ANALYSIS … THANKS, FELLAS.
Krav Maga dude definitely has a background in martial arts that he using Krav to supplement.
Or he went to a really good Krav Maga got school with a fight base that can actually teach You guys will do anything to discredit
Krav maga is a tactical advantage too winning a fight or confrontation as fast as possible using specific moves when struck at or when giving a strike. This instead turned into an ordinary fight.
This was definitely fun to watch.
Thank you for sharing ☺️.
Years ago in college I sat and watched a heavy weight karate competitor from South Africa spar with a Golden Gloves boxer from New Jersey. Forty years ago? So memories fade, but I recall both held their own. No grappling, but competitive.
Nice to see a review on that German promotion. I like it a lot because there are some fighters with potential but it is relativly small and they still fight outside without a cage.
This specific fight was good but as a krav maga practitioner by myself I do not get the point of training krav maga for a sports event with MMA rules. There is a lot of stuff you cannot use in MMA from specific areas of attack to tactics, multiple attackers and weapons... but anyway nice to see the progress of Malte.
finally, respect from a krav maga fighter. Kudos
Weird that the boxer didn't have good footwork to create angles. He was quite flat and one-dimensional on his feet.
This fight, seemingly of two amateur fighters (both skilled and trained well above average, admittedly) was more interesting to watch than a lot of pro fights in the big arenas.
I find it amusing, however, how many Krav Maga practitioners there are out there, sitting at a desk, each and everyone of them an absolute expert in their armchair, probably hugging their waifu pillow and a bag of Doritos when they aren't typing, and explaining to me, for example, what Krav Maga is 'ackchiully' about and how the guy in the video doesn't do it the right way.
Truly inspiring to see. Thanks for clearing things up for us regular people, whom you'd totally dominate in your shower thoughts.
Me as a boxer I went into boxing learning jujitsu and also before doing boxing I was doing jujitsu and kickboxing so I do have a little bit of experience to not letting the fight go to the ground and if it does I’ll be OK if it does I think if you’re gonna learn one martial art you should try to learn more than one
yes if you go down in KM, the first thing you'e going to do is keep one leg firmly placed and get some kicks in with the other or make yourself small and protect your head at all costs. The boxer seems a bit in shock once he went down and failed to protect himself
krav maga is for street fight. which is very intense, aggressive, and fast.
But inside of the ring or octagon, speed and aggression not all option.
Good fight and respekt to both fighters! But i dont see Krav Maga , i see a Boxer vs a Kickboxer!
3:54 I instinctivly raised my leg up in bed to check that kick.
Basically the Krav Maga guy is doing kick boxing
All kickboxing techniques are part of krav maga so he was doing krav maga actually.
You must be under the illusion that krav maga is just front kick to the groin and eye gouges
Loved it. Suscribed!
As a krav maga practitioner. Fighting a boxer with boxing technique is hopeless since he has more experience in boxing. So if krav maga wants to win he could have knocked boxer out at first round by first delivering a few punches and then finisher with a roundhouse kick to thigh or as the boxer is trying to punch him and he's able to read the path of his punches he could punch once and fake another unch then use double leg takedown and an arm bar would be enough to make his punches slow and weak or he would tap out because of pain
It's a sports fight. I didn't notice any kicks to the crotch zone, for example. It works well for accepting hits or orienting yourself in combat. But this is not a typical krav maga fight.
Not a fair fight . Krav maga teaches throat jabs and eye pokes and gouges and knees and kicks to the balls and elbows etc etc . That’s not being allowed especially with gloves so Krav Maga can’t fully be used in “ competition “ . That’s why it’s designed as self defense on the street to survive . Can’t be measured this way . This is boxing purely . Which obviously gives the advantage to the boxer .
I think it is kick boxing vs kick boxing. In krav maga, you kick the groin, break the floating ribs, and then crush a brick onto your opponent's head. The guy without the shirt may be kraver, but he is not using krav maga. What I mean is that this is not Krav vs Kick Boxer.
Street fight (and Krav Maga and other combat techniques) is not about who is more skilled with jabs and round kicks or Jiu-Jitsu style tricks, it is about who causes severe injury and trauma first. That is the main difference between today's martial arts and fighting (combat or defense) systems.
Krav is not designed for being in a ring, it’s a street fight technique.
He still won ?
It is not a fair comparison, but it was really nice to watch. Good fight
If you aren’t a boxer, don’t fight as if you were a boxer.
Enjoyed your video, thank you.
Nice fight from two skilled kick boxers !!! We don't see neither boxing nor krav maga
Nice mixed match, well done!
The boxer is more than just a boxer obviously
Cool boxing match. Not a single Krav Maga was done that day.
I trained a bit with some Israeli commando's oh, bout half a century ago....sure doesn't look anything like the Krav, I remember.
This is why love both Boxing & Kra Maga , in my line of work it’s great to be diverse in self defense
I am very thankful that I studied Krav Maga. Most of the training does not involve contact, so I've suffered no injuries. The basic fighting tecniques it taught protected me in every ( stupid ) bar fight I was in years ago. Even at middle age, I feel that I could disarm a knife or club. Not a gun though. Not a gun.
you can't disarm a knife. And a club? In your dreams
Run from a knife. Stay if you cant leave or you need to protect others but understand that you WILL get cut.
gun is actually easier to disarm than a knife
Great match up 💯
What fight were you watching Jerry? LOOL Boxing guy did well but was never winning, he caught Krav dude a few times but Krav dude landed just as many important hits if not more, and was far more varied in attack. respect for admitting bias via edit comments though I respect that.
I haven’t seen him do any Krav maga
I’d love to see Tyson spar someone just like this. How quick he can win without giant gloves.
Tyson would get whooped so bad.
current tyson probably yes ,but I dont think prime tyson would get whooped
@@hozza0411 The big puffy gloves only soften a punch, so if Tyson could easily deliver a knockout with those pillows, just imagine the power on a chin with a smaller glove. I'm quite confident that even today he could take out most intermediate fighters with a jab. Don't forget that with his neck being the same width as his whole head he could, can take a punch too, not just give.
Interesting experiment. For your next video, may I suggest a Krav Maga expert vs your average New York shop-lifter.
Love shinigami, even if he’s just commentating such a cool and humble guy
isn't krav maga a self defence systen, not a martial arts ?
Was the Krav Maga practicioner allowed to do everything he learned?
Like knee kicks into groin and balls?
Using ellbows?
Grappling?
Or was he just allowed fist punches and kicks, which is max. 20% of all Krav Maga skills...he might have ended the story much faster otherwise😂
Probably pretty standard MMA rules. So elbows, knees, grappling all fine, but nothing to the eyes, throat, back of the head, or groin. Still confused why he stood up and kickboxed with him most of the fight though. Lots of trading punches, and that's not something I'd be keen to do if I knew I was fighting a boxer. If he'd have gone in for a solid single leg or clinched up and thrown some knees, things could have been much different, as I don't know if the boxer really had an answer for it.
Krav maga isn't a sport though, it's a self defense system; so it would consist of kicking the boxer in the balls, kneeing him in the head, then leaving. This was two boxers who threw in some kicks, and ended with some grappling. They're both skilled and it was a great match, but not an accurate krav maga application.
Someone finally remembered he had more weapons than just fists.
Those are the best weapons.
1:39 the overhand or cross speed change is what landed that punch he threw it at a slower speed originally I thought but after re-watching it the speed change I seen was in fact a feint of a jab then cross the boxer has some slippery stuff I wish he would have worked angles more instead of just going straight forward head to head with him.
Awwwwwwwe MANNNNNNN! ALL i see is KICK BOXING! (i just wanted to see what it felt like to be a youtube troll master/armchair warrior for a brief moment and say EVERYTHING JUST LOOKS LIKE KICK BOXIN).
😂😂😂😍😍
were takedowns not allowed? b/c once it went to the ground it was over
I knew it! I knew if it went to the ground, the boxer would be done for. I'm not surprised that the boxer landed more punches, but thats because he is a boxer... Krav Maga has a number of techniques that can be pretty affective outside of the ring... and nearly every Israeli knows it. I'm not too sure how effective Krav Maga would be in combat sports. I guess that all depends on the practitioner.
A punch is a punch and a kick is a kick. Doesn’t matter what martial art you start with, it’s all mma really now and it’s all down to the individual fighter not the art
If that is a good boxer i'm mike tyson
@@thoughtslikekatanas4731 I bet that boxer would teach you a lesson 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@thoughtslikekatanas4731 boxing gets more challenging when you throw in smaller gloves and grappling
I took a couple of years of Krav Maga and would have taken more if circumstances had allowed me to do so. My sense of the Krav Maga ideal is that if one is still fighting three minutes after the first punch is thrown, one hasn't really accomplished what Krav Maga is intended to do. I had a couple of police officers in the first class I took, and they both talked about how they couldn't afford to be exchanging punches for three minutes in a real encounter. I don't say this to put down what this gentleman accomplished. He fought a great fight, and I congratulate him on his win. He's clearly done a huge amount of training and sparring. I would never have been able to fight with him even if my health hadn't failed. I just don't see what he demonstrated here as typical Krav Maga fighting.
Both of these guys did a great job and are to be commended for their dedication to their work.
And all the Krav Kunts fly out like bats from a cave 😂
That guy has no boxing skill
At 2:28 I haven't seen either one go for a liver shot. SMH. Update: Finally at 4:30 the boxer puts in a pretty decent liver shot.
As an Israeli I always sort of root for Krav Maga, but honestly I was betting on the boxer and sort of surprised the KM guy won. Why?
Well, ppl forget KM is not a competitive sport, its sole purpose is to end real world melee as quickly as possible (whether by escape or deescalation or severely injuring an attacker) and the moment you are in a ring with rules in place, you're already out of your element.
The KM guy won because he had some training in leg kicks, takedowns and ground work. But you don't necessarily have to be good at any of those, or even taking or throwing punches to be a good KM practitioner. You're trained to break fingers to get out of grapples, then gouge eyes to end the fight. It's not a sport, and with sporting rules you're crippled or you're on your own relying on how good of a kickboxer or grappler you are.
Both tough guys. The boxer fought straight up, very little slipping or head movement. Ate a lot of straight right hands. Early Tyson was a master of bob, weave, then counter punch.
All i saw that two average of whatever martial art they claiming to be who need cardio training much before their mma traning
where is the Krava Maga? it is MMA, but the guy is a great fighter, congratulations
Boxer should have absolutely most definitely used his great hands and distance control to land body shots.
the boxer adapted. nice one
There aren't any Krav maga there, Also any boxing. That is mma ( poor reduction of an intent of martial arts )
@@KungFuTao I spotted his back foot is in a boxing stance not a Krav Maga stance, no Krav here
05:32, honorable conduct!
Iʻm so lost the captions keep changing per fighter and some moves donʻt match voice narration.
Funny how krav maga only works if u DONT use it😂😂😂
KM isn't the kind of 'protected' form like muay thai or BJJ is where you have some specific requirements to call yourself "instructor".
You or me could open up a Krav Maga training center tomorrow without knowing more than how to spell the name. The fact that a lot of wannabes sell bullshido that way is the reason there's so many people getting their rears kicked.
He did use krav maga here, krav maga has striking and grappling techniques from other martial arts.
There is no such thing as a krav maga technique only krav maga principles.
Every technique he used is part of every krav maga schools curriculum
I was very impressed by both guys alnough felt the grav maga guy take down boxer 🥊 much earlier which does
at end.
This was a "Boxer"? Man had ZERO head movement, Not good footwork....
Right. The other guy was the better boxer, even.
Boxing is a gentlemans sport with rules. Krav Maga is a fight for your life fight skill. My trainers told me to learn every fight skill but perfect boxing with all the physical strength from other fighting skills you learn. You become a shadow when striking the vitals with combos when perfecting the distance.