3 Christian Missionaries Tried To Convert Yusuf Saying Only Trinity Can Save You! Stratford Dawah
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''God became flesh'' and then the cannibal Christians sacrificed him and drunk his blood and ate his flesh, pure evil.
Astaghfirullah 😅
You have no idea what are you talking about ,! Lol..
Can I explain it to you ? Since Muhammad never read the Bible ?
Fact Christianity dying fact Christian are lost just like trinity no were in fake bible put it under bus 🚍
This is mad
@@uthman2281 Madhouse
May Allah bless my brother Yusuf for his calmness. Coolest man alive.
Everyone is against you vultures so keep playing the victim and hiding behind your liberal friends.
Christian noticed and knew the truth that Jesus is not God...but somehow they won't admit it... Even we show the fact they'll run from it...
The scientific term is cognitive dissonance which equates to 'deaf, dumb, and blind'
They literally lie to themselves
This is exactly who are the kufars the way they deny God clear cut
When you're talking to a Christian...
Q: Who is God?
A: Jesus
Q: Is Jesus the son of Mary?
A: Yes,
Q: Who is God?
A: Jesus
God Jesus was born from the mother he created (Mary)
Q: Is Jesus a born son?
A: Yes,
Q: Who is his father?
A: God
Q: Who is God?
A: Jesus
God Jesus is the father of God Jesus and the creator of the mother he was born from her the son of his wife
Q: Is Jesus the servant of God?
A: Yes,
Q: Did Jesus die on the cross?
A: Yes,
Q: And for whom did he go up?
A: To God
God Jesus was crucified & ascended to God Jesus
Q: Is Jesus a Messenger?
A: Yes,
Q: Who sent him?
A: God
Q: Who is God?
A: Jesus
God Jesus was the messenger of God Jesus. God sends himself as a Messenger of himself
Q: Did Jesus pray when he was alive?
A: yes,
Q: Whom was he praying for?
A: For God
Q: Who is God?
A: Jesus
God Jesus worships God Jesus himself
Q: Does God have a beginning?
A: No
Q: So who was born on December 25th?
A: Jesus
Q: Who is God?
A: Jesus
God Jesus is eternal before everything but he was born in 25th Dec
Q: Where is God?
A: In heaven
Q: How many Gods are there in heaven?
A: God is only one.
Q: Where is Jesus sitting?
A: He is sitting on the right of God.
Q: Is Jesus a God?
A: Yes
Q: So how many Gods are there in heaven?
A: Only one God
Q: Where is Jesus?
A: He is sitting to the right of God.
Q: So how many gods are there in heaven?
A: Only one god. Still
Q: Is Jesus a God?
A: Yes
Q: So who many seated gods are there?
A: Only one God?
Q: Where is Jesus?
A: He is sitting next to the god.
Q: How many gods are in heaven?
A: Only one.
Q: Are they sitting on the same chair?
A: These words are understood only by the one who has the holy spirit.
God sacrificed God to God in order to save God's creation from God. God prayed to God for help but God didn't help God, and God killed God with help from humans. And that God is a father of himself and the mother of himself and the son of mother he created at the same time. He is also eternal but his birthday is...
Wow you killed it 😂 very onpoint description
You are giving a totally distorted description of the Christian faith, misleadingly taken out of context! It is addressed in the doctrine of the Trinity. Followers of Jesus believe this because it has been revealed to them in the Bible.
C.S. Lewis said, we cannot compete in terms of simplicity with people who invent religion because we have revealed facts to take into consideration.
The concept of God being a unique community within Himself stands in opposite to the Muslim concept of Allah being one in the strict numerical sense of the word. This Muslim understanding raises three questions:
i) ‘How could Allah have been self sufficient and loving before the creation of angels and of the earth?’ Since true love is always giving and Allah according to Islam is a lone God, according to logic there must have been a time where he was incomplete, where he could not have had the attribute of love? However, according to both the Quran and the Bible, God has always been and always will be perfect.
ii) ‘Is Allah selfish?’ Since love is described as having ‘…no envy;…no high opinion of itself,….no pride;…no thought for itself…(1 Cor 13: 4-5) some people like sceptic John Stuart Mill, Mark Twain or Pablo Picasso have come to the conclusion that God is utterly selfish. They say that by asking us to worship nobody else but God, he himself commits the sin of seeking glory for himself only for which he condemns man. While many Muslims would say that Allah, the creator can be selfish if he wants, Bible believing Christians find the answer to this apparent contradiction in the Trinitarian nature of God. He shares his glory among himself.
iii) ‘Is God limited?’ Of course that can not be, but he who thinks of God as an absolute unity where there is no room for multiplicity at all, is forced to believe in a god who does not know himself. Self-knowledge demands a distinction, a multiplicity, between knower and known. Self-consciousness, the recognition of a creature by itself as a ‘self’ can only exist in contrast with an ‘other’, a something which is not the self. Only a Trinitarian concept of God allows for such a vital distinction.
If the Trinity was made up do you not think it would have been taken out the Bible since you believe, in contradiction to Surah 5:47, that it was changed? I pray that the Lord would open your eyes to the truth: Jesus (John 14:6)
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how dumb claims you made bruh😂 I suggest you to consult an Islamic scholar and ask these questions, but here I will try my best to give you rational answers only cuz honestly i don't remember the specific quotations and verses related to it on the top of my head
1. The terms before and after couldn't be used for God/Allah cuz he is the one who created 'time' and 'time' is only for creations not for God/Allah himself
2. Allah isn't selfish but he is very proud of his magnificence,honour and power he has ,cuz he is the only one who will judge all of us and we are his creation ,he doesn't need us ,we need him! Indeed pride is only for Allah and we humans are just a creation of Allah and are very limited in physical and mental strength but sufficient enough to recognise our creator
3. God isn't limited but he has limited certain attributes and characteristics to himself only , that's to humble us and show us who is superior ,and we stand in no place to ask God why he did this,we are already miserable and answerable to him👍
I tried my best but I would recommend you to ask these questions from a scholar and get a better answer and I have already looked up for these questions you raised and got the answer with evidences, May God/Allah guide us to truth 😊best of luck
Pretty sad aint it ! This whole deaf dumb and blind thing is serious ! Peace !
European missionaries have plagued many people around the world particularly Africans with the polytheism of Christianity. For example, they brought African Muslims as slaves to the Americas, took away Tawheed from them and gave them the trinity. But in Shaa Allah, this will be reversed with time.
They erased Islam completely from the Africans in America.
The missionaries are only able repeat the word "not necessarily" even though Jesus/Yesus/Iesous himself clearly stated that he didn't have the attribute of all-knowing and the attributes of what makes god god.
I grew up in the catholic faith and myself a black man, my black race are very passion about Isa but never research Chiristanity, one thing i would tell my brothers amoungst many is that Isa, Jesus came for only the children of Israel.
When the missionaries came to Africa, they had the Bible, and we had the land. They said, "Let us pray." We closed our eyes. When we opened them, we had the Bible, and they had the land.
Desmond Tutu
These folks are all over....but I know they make zero sense ! Peace Yusuf !
I love the way bro Yusof discuss about religion..calm and clear
The big questions
If Jesus is God how does humanity kill him?
Who controlled the universe when Jesus was a baby?
Did God send God to crucify God in order to please God?
Did the Trinity send a part of it in order to be crucified to please the Trinity?
If Jesus is the son of God, how did God keep silent on the killing of his child?
Jesus could not save himself from crucifixion, how could he save others?
If Jesus has been turned into God, what was the situation of mother Mary? Did she also have to worship her son, being the mother of God?
Did God the Father send God the son for crucifixion of God the son to please God the Father?
Did Jesus is the creator of his own mother? Is Mary mother of God? God also got a grandma and grandpa?
Only the father knows the hour amen
And Jesus was taken up why not buried.because he is not from below
Jesus is not God but he is a servant and messenger sent by God.
-Acts 3:13
The God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, the God of our fathers, glorified his servant Jesus.
-John 5:30
By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.
-John 20:17
Jesus said, "I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God."
-Luke 6:12
One of those days Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God.
-Matthew 26:39
Going a little farther, Jesus fell with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will."
-Quran 19:30
Jesus said, "Indeed, I am the servant of Allah. He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet."
Wrong. Now, go read John chapter 5 verses 39-44 where Jesus said THE ENTIRE OLD TESTAMENT, the written Bible of His time spoke of Him. Who did the old testament speak of? The eternal Creator and Father. God. He's God the Son. Opinions are irrelevant that try to challenge eternal Truth.
And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world was. John 17-5 I think you left this verse out for a reason.
@karsw2903 yep, very good! Now compare that with John 5 verses 39-44 and you've got the ENTIRE picture. Only Jesus can reveal the Father, just like He said in scripture. Only Jesus has been with the Father from the beginning, just like He said. And you look SILLY for trying to use the Bible to make a case against the divine nature of Jesus. You guys should realize how ridiculous you sound, but you willingly choose not to.
@@jeremycrawford4004 then you must worship the God of Jesus, don't worship Jesus!
@@Surge424 it's normal if the Father who is the only true God glorify his messenger like Allah send blessings for muhammad.
I'm 100 percent human jesus pbuh is 100 percent human being amen
Subhanallah
They said god doesn't share his glory with anyone, to make jesus god!¡
But 😂😂😂😂
Jesus gives the same glory that god gave him with his disciple!!
Brother didn't mentioned that, i know it's hard to remember everything!!
They themselves proved jesus wasn't god!!..
But if that was mentioned they would have made an exception for jesus and explain in some way , any way to make jesus god..
So, it's hard to argue with double standard , standard shifting Christians.
Good discussion, but, had to stop for prayer time...
“ We Muslims are misinterpreting the text” 😂😂😂😂
الحمد لله
Poor guys they don't see the contradictions in there words they just jump around man then god then man then humble.
First guy must’ve ate the Holy Ghost 😮
Just ask everyone on this planet what is the first commandment of GOD?! What could be the effect if its disobeyed ?!
To understand the concept of the Trinity can be confusing. It is a complex theological concept that has been discussed for centuries. It is important to note that this is not a generally accepted explanation until first council of Nicaea in AD 325.
Numbers 23:19, it is true that God is not a man. However, Christians believe that Jesus was both fully God and fully human, a unique aspect of the Trinity which is contradicted with bible.
As for Melchizedek, he is an interesting character mentioned in the Bible. While some interpret him as a symbol of Christ, it is important to remember that he is not explicitly referred to as the Son of God. Additionally, Hebrews 7:3 describes Melchizedek as resembling the Son of God, rather than as actually being the Son of God.
However, I believe that Melchizedek is the son of the gods, not Jesus as without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, just for argument with Christian Missionaries.
Was the flesh of Jesus pbuh was devine? If the flesh is not devine than there is no devine sacrifice.
Acts 3:17-23
New International Version
17 “Now, fellow Israelites, I know that you acted in ignorance, as did your leaders. 18 But this is how God fulfilled what he had foretold through all the prophets, saying that his Messiah would suffer. 19 Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord, 20 and that he may send the Messiah, who has been appointed for you-even Jesus. 21 Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets. 22 For Moses said, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own people; you must listen to everything he tells you. 23 Anyone who does not listen to him will be completely cut off from their people.’....copy held by vatican carries on saying "and his name is going to be Ahmad".
Jesus pbuh is a creation of Allah the boss amen
only macdonalds can save you from losing weight
Allah has description
Trinity has contradictions
Which God would u go for?
according to the Bible Jesus was born as a human being according to the Christians Jesus died as a human being and in the Bible he is talking eating sleeping forgetting running and hiding from his enemy saying i cannot of my self do nothing saying i dont know the hour everything points to the fact that he was a human being a Prophet sent to the Children of Israel.
A man can be a father and son and have an eternal spirit inside of him and amd still carry out his unified purpose of being ONE man and fulfill ALL OF HIS ROLES AT THE SAME TIME. Its actually the ONLY WAY he can carry out that unified purpose and role. God said "let us make man in our image" in the book of genesis when God created man and gave him life. God carries out HIS unified purpose the EXACT SAME WAY. You bear his image and you have ZERO excuse that you cant comprehend the trinity becuase you would have to deny YOUR OWN purpose and life as a man to do so..
A traffic light has red, yellow and green however wouldn't make provide instruction with all three illuminated, Muslims love Jesus, pbh just don't want to disrespect God by associating partners, God created Jesus; however Jesus could not create God...
@@beflowers7945 ok, but, my friend the scripture "let us make traffic lights in our image" is not in any text. I appreciate the point you tried to make, but we have to stick with what the scripture actually says for a reference.
@@beflowers7945 and Jesus is the "ancient of days" of days spoken of by Daniel the prophet in chapters 7-9, and He is the eternal man sitting on the throne of God seen in Ezekiel chapter 1. He's not created, He's eternal. Read it for yourself my friend and ask Jesus if what you've been taught of Him is true or not before it's too late.
@@jeremycrawford4004 can go back and forth with quotes l, was trying to relate to life, have you ever read the 4 verses of chapter 112 in the Quran? I was born and raised Christian for 30 years before learning anything else, I admire your passion, did Jesus ever mention a trinity in the Bible or was this human interpretation? All the profits from beginning to end spoke monotheistic, seams like God would want the message clear...Have read the bible there is much truth in it, have you ever read the Quran?
@@beflowers7945 Where is the Trinity, THREE, mentioned in the bible? That's what I'm always asked. How about the first THREE verses in the bible? It can't be any more self explanatory than that. Read it for yourselves. God the Creator and Father mentioned and revealed in all THREE PERSONS of the Godhead. The Holy Spirit is mentioned as "hovering over the waters" in the verses. God the Father says "LET THERE BE LIGHT!" and the Light came forth. In John 8 verse 12 Jesus testifies "I AM THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD AND WHOEVER DOES NOT FOLLOW ME WALKS IN DARKNESS." Why did Jesus say this? Because in John 5 verses 39-44 Jesus had already mentioned that the ENTIRE TORAH spoke of HIM and who HE was. READ IT FOR YOURSELVES. Think about it.
Missioaries are rethinking. Now rhey have to learn Christianity from the beginning.
You can't say God knows everything, He is all powerful, and He can't be killed.
Then say when Jesus was on earth he didn't know everything and he died.
That's a contradiction.
If someone ask you if God knows everything and doesn't die?
You can't say yes then proceed to say God died and didn't know the hour.
That's a clear contradiction.
That can't be reconciled once you say God knows everything and can't die.
When did God Himself introduce the trinity to mankind in scripture?
7:50 - 8:29
Pure unadulterated contradictions.
8:30... not necessarily 😢
Mmmm...not a very convincing response.
Its the m word once more...it's a mystery because we cant fully understand god is a bit of a cop out response.
So it remains a mystery although there are numerous verses that contradict it.😢
Confused?
Our Creator is not the author of confusion or contradictions.
Very simple deduction.
Case closed...if one is intellectually honest.
Brother, if Jesus is God, then why would he pray God ? Because Christians agree that he prayed God, but then why would he do that if he is God ? Would he pray himself ? Like, that statement alone is a nonsense
1+1 +1 = 1... What!!! 😮
Try 1x1x1 instead. You are giving a totally distorted description of the Christian faith, misleadingly taken out of context! It is addressed in the doctrine of the Trinity. Followers of Jesus believe this because it has been revealed to them in the Bible.
C.S. Lewis said, we cannot compete in terms of simplicity with people who invent religion because we have revealed facts to take into consideration.
The concept of God being a unique community within Himself stands in opposite to the Muslim concept of Allah being one in the strict numerical sense of the word. This Muslim understanding raises three questions:
i) ‘How could Allah have been self sufficient and loving before the creation of angels and of the earth?’ Since true love is always giving and Allah according to Islam is a lone God, according to logic there must have been a time where he was incomplete, where he could not have had the attribute of love? However, according to both the Quran and the Bible, God has always been and always will be perfect.
ii) ‘Is Allah selfish?’ Since love is described as having ‘…no envy;…no high opinion of itself,….no pride;…no thought for itself…(1 Cor 13: 4-5) some people like sceptic John Stuart Mill, Mark Twain or Pablo Picasso have come to the conclusion that God is utterly selfish. They say that by asking us to worship nobody else but God, he himself commits the sin of seeking glory for himself only for which he condemns man. While many Muslims would say that Allah, the creator can be selfish if he wants, Bible believing Christians find the answer to this apparent contradiction in the Trinitarian nature of God. He shares his glory among himself.
iii) ‘Is God limited?’ Of course that can not be, but he who thinks of God as an absolute unity where there is no room for multiplicity at all, is forced to believe in a god who does not know himself. Self-knowledge demands a distinction, a multiplicity, between knower and known. Self-consciousness, the recognition of a creature by itself as a ‘self’ can only exist in contrast with an ‘other’, a something which is not the self. Only a Trinitarian concept of God allows for such a vital distinction.
If the Trinity was made up do you not think it would have been taken out the Bible since you believe, in contradiction to Surah 5:47, that it was changed? I pray that the Lord would open your eyes to the truth: Jesus (John 14:6)
@@MrTruthing when you see Allah in the judgement day (when your eyes will open with the fear of judgment ) , you can ask yourself bro , After that you can free to go Hell :)
They do not hv te original gospel of jesus pbuh, all they hv r gospel of john luke mark n matthew. Even then te bible came to light aft more than a century n its in greek lang. How 2 cfmd te authencity of te bible?. Bible was written by humans n cannot b te words of god.
Jews will get their messiah Muslims will get their messiah Christian will not why because the messiah doesn't believe in the trinity
God is not a man amen
Christian as usual confused ignorance about their bible.
Personal pronouns according to Christians:
I
You
He/She/It
We
You
They
Trinity
الله اكبر
Jesus is fully God and fully men. How? Jesus is hybrid? Is he immortal but can die. He doesnt sleep but he slept. He dont need to eat but need to eat. He dont have God but he pray to God. He all-knowing but he also dont know the hour. He is one but three. How can these make any sense? For sure Christian are confusing and yet God is not the author of confusion.
Accept 666 ur salvation a to b
in their view even jesus lying (he knows the hour , etc.) :) , they are like the last airbender , they are changing what is written in bible even , they make their own bible just assuming , what a ignorance
The word trinity is not in the Bible, surprisingly, the word trinity is in the Qur'an. Surah 5:73
Research, Trinity came before Quran
Redefining words again? My pagan pet
Can square become circle? Can God become not God? That's herecy.
BELIEF THAT GOD APPEARED IN FLESH NOT ILLOGICAL
To prove the point let us think about an illustration. Nobody has ever seen a square circle. Since both belong to the same world of shapes it is logical that they are mutually exclusive. One can only have either a circle or a square but not a combination of both.
However, it is perfectly reasonable to believe that a green circle exists since the combination is made up of a part belonging to the world of colours and of a part belonging to a completely different world of shapes. Similarly God and man come from different worlds and therefore it is not against logic to say that Jesus is both God and man. The Creator can become part of his creation and yet still be above it since nothing is impossible to him. Therefore, according to Philippians 2:6-8 it is true to say that Christ was 100% God and 100% man at the same time. You ask, ‘how can this be? Is that not a contradiction?’ The following illustration may help: I am the father of a very lively young boy. He loves to wrestle with me. It is quite a fun game. In order not to hurt him I deliberately do not use the 100% strength I have as an adult.
I put myself on his level by taking on the 100% strength of a little boy his age. In other words, I am still fully me but I choose not to use my capacities for my little boys sake. After all, I love him and that is the only way I can show it to him in these circumstances. Similarly God too has become a man in Jesus because he loves us. Article VIII of the ‘Formula of Concord’ takes up the same subject. Henry Otten summarizes it as follows: ‘The essence of this Article is that Christ has both a human nature and a divine nature with each nature having the special attributes or characteristics of that nature. The two natures are combined in one person, the person of Jesus, in such a way that the attributes of each nature are not the property of that nature alone, but belong to the entire person. Whenever Jesus performed any action, it was not just one of the natures which acted, but the whole person.
Thus it can be said that the person of Jesus was hungry, became weary, and slept, while it can also be said that the person of Jesus knew what was in man and stilled the storm on the lake (Joh 2:25; Mat 8:26) Some of the other questions of Muslims can be met by distinguishing between the state of humiliation and the state of exaltation. In his state of humiliation Jesus was a man like other men and was dependent upon the same resource as other people. That was why He was ignorant of the Day of Judgement, could endure suffering, and die, even though He was the Lord of life and the Word and Wisdom of God. He refused to use God’s power to save Himself.’ (Ibid, page 100-101)
Some may object by saying it is impossible for God to enter into humanity. But what about the belief that God made himself known through the Quran, his allegedly eternal, uncreated word? Or think about the Prophets of old. To some of them God spoke directly in an audible voice. Surah 20, Ta Ha, verses 11-13 confirm that Moses heard God speak to him, from within the fire. This conversation took most probably place in his own Hebrew language because God wanted his message to be understood. Truly, nothing is impossible to the Creator. If he has limited himself inside a voice in the past he surely can embody a human being in order to communicate more directly and fully with his creation.
That is exactly what he has done in Jesus. Others may say that God becoming a man in Jesus would somehow be degrading to God. Athanasius, one of the early church fathers answered: ‘Does not the mind of man pervade his entire being, and yet find expression through one part only, namely, the tongue? Does any say on that account that the mind has degraded itself?’ (‘The Incarnation of the Word of God’, Mac Millan, New York, 1946, page 78) Athanasius continued: ‘Some then may ask, why did He not manifest Himself by means of other and nobler parts of creation, and use some nobler instrument, such as sun, or moon or stars or fire or air, instead of mere man? The answer is this. The Lord did not come to make a display. He came to heal and to teach suffering men. For one who wanted to make a display the thing would have been just to appear and dazzle the beholders.
But for Him who came to heal and to teach the way was not merely to dwell here, but to put Himself at the disposal of those who needed Him, and to be manifested according as they could bear it, not vitiating the value of the Divine appearing by exceeding their capacity to receive it.’ (Ibid.) As seen so far reason is not against the thought that Jesus is God in human flesh!
@@MrTruthing that's pegan believe
What is wrong with Hindu beliefs then. God became an idol.
@@MrTruthing The big questions
If Jesus is God how does humanity kill him?
Who controlled the universe when Jesus was a baby?
Did God send God to crucify God in order to please God?
Did the Trinity send a part of it in order to be crucified to please the Trinity?
If Jesus is the son of God, how did God keep silent on the killing of his child?
Jesus could not save himself from crucifixion, how could he save others?
If Jesus has been turned into God, what was the situation of mother Mary? Did she also have to worship her son, being the mother of God?
Did God the Father send God the son for crucifixion of God the son to please God the Father?
Did Jesus is the creator of his own mother? Is Mary mother of God? God also got a grandma and grandpa?
My answer, can King Charles clean a public restroom? Yes he can. But it's not befitting for his majesty.
God can't become man, who is weak. It's not befitting for the majesty of God to become weak.
A simple question for all of you.
IS GOD LIMITED?
God is not weak, is that a limitation?
God is unlimited but Jesus a man is limited n he died according to the Bible.
My pagan pets, the creator is not a man, It is that simple
Your brain is limited
Ask them why Jesus pbuh never said that only trinity can save you.
Jesus: my god, and your god.
Christian: you have to read the bible carefully to not misunderstand
and they still say he has no god, so I guess we just read it wrong, and him saying that Paul is reliable made me laugh, when nothing is even known about him or any of the authors
You are giving a totally distorted description of the Christian faith, misleadingly taken out of context! It is addressed in the doctrine of the Trinity. Followers of Jesus believe this because it has been revealed to them in the Bible.
C.S. Lewis said, we cannot compete in terms of simplicity with people who invent religion because we have revealed facts to take into consideration.
The concept of God being a unique community within Himself stands in opposite to the Muslim concept of Allah being one in the strict numerical sense of the word. This Muslim understanding raises three questions:
i) ‘How could Allah have been self sufficient and loving before the creation of angels and of the earth?’ Since true love is always giving and Allah according to Islam is a lone God, according to logic there must have been a time where he was incomplete, where he could not have had the attribute of love? However, according to both the Quran and the Bible, God has always been and always will be perfect.
ii) ‘Is Allah selfish?’ Since love is described as having ‘…no envy;…no high opinion of itself,….no pride;…no thought for itself…(1 Cor 13: 4-5) some people like sceptic John Stuart Mill, Mark Twain or Pablo Picasso have come to the conclusion that God is utterly selfish. They say that by asking us to worship nobody else but God, he himself commits the sin of seeking glory for himself only for which he condemns man. While many Muslims would say that Allah, the creator can be selfish if he wants, Bible believing Christians find the answer to this apparent contradiction in the Trinitarian nature of God. He shares his glory among himself.
iii) ‘Is God limited?’ Of course that can not be, but he who thinks of God as an absolute unity where there is no room for multiplicity at all, is forced to believe in a god who does not know himself. Self-knowledge demands a distinction, a multiplicity, between knower and known. Self-consciousness, the recognition of a creature by itself as a ‘self’ can only exist in contrast with an ‘other’, a something which is not the self. Only a Trinitarian concept of God allows for such a vital distinction.
If the Trinity was made up do you not think it would have been taken out the Bible since you believe, in contradiction to Surah 5:47, that it was changed? I pray that the Lord would open your eyes to the truth: Jesus (John 14:6)
Jesus the zombie
i didnt know that when i say i didnt know medicine only a doctor know meaning that i really know about it but i choose to hide it....good for me everyday i learn something new....next time i will ask a christian to recite Quran in arabic for me bcoz i already knew when he say he didnt know that he knew it but dont want to show and i will persistently asking him until he will do it...apparently thats christian understanding
That's your wishful thinking that he knew. I chose to believe what Jesus(peace be up on him) said. That he did not know.
Another example-
The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. (Mark 11:12)
He does not even know when is the season for figs.
@@lazyengineer007 yea i agree with you there..the comment i mention above is sarcasm
Bible will not help you on that day Christian
Trinity from the matrix revelution thats them believe