Blood Sweat and Tears video and song were built and written based on Demian, a novel by Hermann Hesse which won a nobel prize in literature back in 1946. I read this book (because of this Mv) and I'll try my best to interpret and summarize the story here. The story follows a young boy named Sinclair who had a friend named Demian. Demian acted as Sinclair's mentor during his childhood and transition to adulthood. Sinclair as a young adult experienced series of existential crisis, believing he lived in between the world of light (the world of illusion, full of goodness) and "the dark world" (the real world which was full of lust, temptation, anger and evil world). Demian, and later on Sinclair's another mentor Pistorius, believed that in order to become a full person a human needs to embrace both of their light and dark sides. This will then lead Sinclair to find out about Abraxas, the god of light and darkness. There are sooo many imageries and jawdropping details on the MV that represent details in the book. But the point is this song is about the loss of innocence and temptation, about being a human and embracing both of your good and dark sides. The scene where Jin kissed the statue (which I believe the representation of Abraxas) means he seals the deal with the devil himself in order to fully embrace himself as a person who isn't perfect, full of flaws. The white and black doors represent the world of light and the real world. Suga playing piano represents Pistorius who was an organ player in the story. The phrase that RM read in English here was also taken from the book, page 26 (on the version that I read). It says "He too was a tempter, he too was a link to the second, the evil world with which I no longer have anything to do." "He" here refers to Demian, that Sinclair once thought as a bad influence for him, maybe it's because Sinclair tried to deny his dark sides. The book is heavily influenced by a swiss philosopher and psychiatrist Carl Jung. One of his pupils was Hermann Hesse's doctor back then. This MV and song are also influenced by a german philosopher Nietzche. There's a quote by him on the wall above the painting that Jin is staring at. It is in German but it means "You must have chaos within you in order to give a birth to a dancing star". Again, the same theme occurs here, about embracing both of your light and dark sides. Only by accepting your flaws and mistakes you can reach your true potentials. Hesse learned a lot about Jung's psychoanalysis and experienced it himself so that was why Demian was heavily influenced by it. What makes it even more interesting, BTS album MOTS 7 is also based on Carl Jung's theory (hence the songs Persona, Shadow, and Ego were born-- these 3 elements are important in Jung's theory Maps of the Soul). BTS are deep, my friends. They talk about real things like the pain of growing up and youth's experience. They literally make a lot of armys become smarter and read on classic literature like this because of them. lol. Welcome to the fandom! (Please note once again that this is all my own interpretation after reading the book, take it with a grain of salt.)
I've personally enjoyed watching you 2 being open to BTS and not stereotyping all fans as teenage girls. Dont let the negativity stop you from voicing your thoughts. And YES!! Jhope is amazing!!!!!!
I am a teacher in literature. And I am in awe of how theese young men got a LOT of young people to read a novel by a Nobel prize winning author to learn the meaning behind this MV. The staty is Abraxas, I believe. And no need to get defensive! Isn't it interesting when people getting argumentative? That feeds new thoughts. Let us listen to one another. Have a nice day!
Last week was a hard week for everyone especially after Joons letter he posted voicing how upset he was that media was twisting their words about them not coming back but anyways good reactions! This song and video was ahead of its time.
I really felt bad as well. Especially worried for Joon, he was so upset. He was also upset that his most vulnerable moment in festa was plastered everywhere and him sharing his deepest thoughts was taken so much out of context. Them getting emotional was construed as them breaking up which was wrong. Also he has put his entire soul into BTS. For people to come out and say that.... No wonder he sounded so protective.
@@shivangiagrawal2665 I know it's impossible, but a part of me wishes there was a way for them to share that vulnerable heart-to-heart with Armys while keeping that moment away from the vultures in the media. Joon should have had the space to speak with his brothers and with us fans while being as open, honest and vulnerable as he felt comfortable being without having to deal with awful people capitalizing on his pain in the aftermath. It's cruel and unfair that he has to watch people enjoy his pain when that moment was for Army and BTS eyes mainly. It was unavoidable though.
Personally, I interpret the destruction(?) of Madonna’s statue as the boy’s loss of innocence (the MV started with them playing, with the toys and books they hold symbolizing childhood and Jin’s discovery of the painting as opening to desires), and for a mother, her child falling into temptation would “break” her.
I agree. Jin kissing the Lucifer is like making pact with the devil, giving in the temptation. And mother Marry represents innocence (virgin Marry), so destruction of statue is loosing the innocence. I red Demian long time ago, but I remember the feeling while reading it, like Demian is the devil who is tempting the main character and somehow has a bad influence on him. Also Jin kissing the statue of devil reminds me of Faust and selling the soul to the devil. V's smirk, i would say he represents the devil and he's like "i got you" when Jin kissed the statue.
I haven't read the book, but I heard that Sinclaire's big influence was his mother and religion. He was sheltered his entire life and through religion, his world view was black and white. (BTW, this corresponds to the author's life as well). So breaking of pieta makes sense cause it represents both of these things. Once Damien (and other mentors) started appearing in Sinclair's life, the image he had of life (and religion, and his parents) shattered
I enjoyed this reaction very much. One of the reasons I watch you guys reacting to BTS is because you really try to understand not just the lyrics but also the MV. I’ve seen other reactors who constantly praise the group and offer a shallow interpretation. So I love the deep dive you do. Who uses Herman Hesse and Nietzsche in their MV? Or dedicate an entire album (MOTS Persona and 7) to explore Carl Jung’s process of individuation? Perhaps some day you will look at each album because BTS has themes with each album (series of albums too). You also brought out details I didn’t realize! This was fun! Thank you! 💜
@@BeardsBoozeBandsBS Sorry this is long / but just for you ( older fan ). 💜 1st love your reactions! I am older than both of you and can understand a lot of your references. I love that you use what you know to understand this. It’s natural. I really hope you are enjoying your journey ( minus rude comments).I have been on this journey 6 years and still learning. I found the TH-cam channel DKDK TV to be very helpful. They are a Korean TH-cam channel ( they are easy to understand don’t worry - no need for captions) who seem ( as far as I can tell ) focus on Korean culture and K-pop. They have explanation videos for A-LOT of BTS videos. Not only do they translate any Korean lyrics into English, but since sometimes a word can have complex meanings they also translate the meanings of the words for the song. They tell us about any cultural meanings behind the songs. I would go and type in DKDK TV explanation for Blood, Sweat, and Tears. Then watch it and not only will you see what I mean , but you’ll appreciate getting translations and meanings straight for a reliable source. They will also translate the lat Festa dinner too. As the translation to English for that was really bad ( incorrect and not complete ). I would watch these off camera so you can take your time and enjoy the process. I would also say to look at them or XxCeleste for info as both only state factual info they have found ( especially XxCeleste ). She will actually tell you if she is not sure or that she is still looking into official info. They have better resources since they are closer to the source. Any way enjoy. ( also ) Other channels other than these two can give you More Detailed info , different perspectives on the group/individuals or delve into the theory explanation parts of things ( they are NOT lacking at all, and have nothing wrong with them. Top two above just mainly deal with straightforward facts which are the starting point before expanding into all the Details of BTS. ) 2. In the 6 years I have been following them I have seen more positive then negative BTS fans. As WE know it comes with the territory ( not pleasant to deal with , but yeah). The worst ones I report ( wether BTS related or not.. bad is bad). The others I skip by. I am sorry you had to deal with them, but hopefully that is past and done for now. Just know that people who truly consider themselves ARMY try to follow and learn from the example the boys create with their behavior, actions and moral beliefs towards others and what is and is not considered an appropriate response to things. This is good as well…. They just make you want to be a better person without realizing it , to want to learn more , discover more and help more. They do it without fully understanding just how refreshing they are for the music scene and beyond. They enjoy each other’s company honestly and let us in and have broken down and still let us in as much as possible. I want to still discover more and be better , partly because of them. I also appreciate the fact that they are ok with me being me and accept that I wouldn’t always think just like them OR just follow them blindly with out thinking for myself. I like having extra encouragement to just be the best me I can be with no other expectations. It’s nice to not have to adult all the time. So I hope you can balance out the bad and weigh in the good. We ( ARMY) really need people like you who do reactions in such a straight forward and honest way. You make them think and bring a different perspective than they have had before ( frankly by people who look old enough to have more than enough experience to give varied opinions. ). So please keep it up 👍🏻 this old one really appreciates what you guys do and enjoys watching your reactions. 💜👍🏻 🪨+ ing + 🪑😁
Rude comments can''t be helped and it will again happen, like for others too! But I appreciate you both for being honest and being open. I also love how you try to get into their MVs and other stuff one at a time. I like your thoughts and insights and the fact that you also check other vids of them for extra knowledge and to support the MVs you'd be reacting - that only shows how you wanted to learn things about them. And we're here for that! I hope you continue on.. and just like RM said in Vegas, let's ignore the haters and love the ones who loves us :) Thank you again for this reaction!
I’m technically Catholic too, although a very bad one with pagan leanings BUT, the Mary part caught my attention as well but to me it just felt like an additional representation of a loss of innocence, and everything breaking down. Once through this journey, you can’t go back and everything you knew to be true before, breaks down and you have to look at it with new eyes. Jin cracking, Jimins green tears, chaos initiating growth. In this video I feel like she was the lone representation of the mother archetype, and she cannot prevent the loss of innocence, or coming of age.
Yeah, I also wondered if it was the moving away from the mother ideal, Mary and embracing, literally kissing, the fallen angel/ new idea of Lucifer/knowledge. The idea that you must destroy the past or really, the past ceases to be ie explodes dramatically? once you move past it. Like you said, you literally can never go back. So, it was the extra dramatic way or moving forward past being cradled, even in death, to a future walking forward and meeting a new thing alone and on your own terms. There was also, Hermes and Hestia? I think in the background in some scenes behind doorways, visually different spaces, and they were two important household gods so overall it's a coming of age story but why didn't those gods crumble too? Or were the MV chars walking towards making their own spaces apart from the Mary as mother idea. Gosh. I could talk/think about this for one thousand years and really? I think the best part about this video is how rich it is in imagery that gives so much leeway for interpretation, it has a strong central idea Growing Up, but around that there's so much more.
@@saintleadcrow Yes. Each reference is it’s own little rabbit hole, yet they mesh together. The mother archetype is fascinating. I am always reminded that everyone was once someone’s little baby. There is that moment a parent recognizes their helplessness in being able to protect their child from everything. As a child you also have to recognize when it’s time to separate from the parents protection. As a mother I was constantly aware of the milestones in my sons life where I was being “replaced” by his growth and experiences. They need you every second until a certain point and then those needs fall away one by one. Sometimes they replace those needs with themselves, sometimes they hand them to someone else. The temptation in this video is really beautiful.
@@bluehourtarot I don't know why, buy you saying that made me emotional, because I'm at the stage in between needing my parents and finding independence. Also being in the place of the parent and realising that you are no longer needed feels heartbreaking, even if I'm far from that stage in life.
Strap in for my explanation for the shattering Pietà! The Pietà depicts Mary grieving her son, a loss of innocence. Both, the philosophy of Demian and of the work the Nietzsche quote was lifted from, say that a loss of innocence is necessary to start to come into one's true self. Following that thought, it's necessary to let go of one's grief for the loss of innocence to truely become a complete, true self. Therefore this representation of grieving a loss of innocence shattering is a depiction of the final step in self-actualization: finally letting go of your grief for what was and accepting the truth of light and dark, good and evil, temptation and resistance in the world. After this grief finally passes (shatters), the "old" version of Jin starts to crack. I see this crack as less of a "Jin will shatter" and more as a "a new Jin is about to be born", like a bird from an egg. (Sorry if this I expressed this badly, English is not my first language!)
To tie in with this.. the part where RM speaks, Jin with the balloon, it mirrors Banksy's portrait. The portrait represents the loss of innocense, the portrait also represent the fact that in our innocense, childhood, we always have hope. So it is also shows the loss of hope. Fun fact, Banksy had a build in paper shredder in that portrait. When the portrait sold, the shredder was activated and the portrait was shredded half way. BANKSY stated that art is not for sale, which in my opinion circles back to what they said in Yet to come.
This is how I interpreted the statue of Mary. In BTS's universe there will be a lot of references to the mother (basically her influence, whether present or absent, positive or negative). The videos, short films and even the Notes will have references and it will be a lot to go into them and be a bit spoilerish so I wont. But since Blood, sweat and tears heavily references Demian: The story of Emil Sinclair's youth by Hermann Hesse and he is influenced by Carl Jung, the female figures in the novel are represented by Emil's mother, Demian's mother Frau Eva and even a woman named Beatrice. In the novel itself we see Emil interacting with certain characters and because Hesse is influenced by Jung, I saw those characters as representing Jungian archetypes of self, persona, shadow, ego (which BTS have addressed in their music videos). But we also have the anima/animus archetype which I believe the statue represents. Men would be represented by their inner anima (feminine) while women would have their inner animus (masculine). So in anima there are 4 main figures - Eve, Helen, Mary and Sophia. Mary is supposed to represent righteousness and be a 'paragon of virtue' and yes, the name was taken from the Virgin Mary. At least to my knowledge the statue wasn't taken to mean Mary (as the mother of Jesus) but what she represents as in being a mother and of course her status in society. So in overall the statue represents the anima in Jung's collective unconscious theory. Just to add - the cracking of the statues, Jin's face, all represents the concept of 'the bird flies out of the egg...' a quote in reference to Abraxas. And for a bird to emerge from an egg, it needs to destroy that protection, that shell that keeps them secure from the outside world. And a mother should form that 'protection' because she is supposed to represent comfort and security, supposed to guide to you what's right and guide you away from what's wrong. But in the mv there are all these temptations as the guys are in their maturity stage, grown beyond adolescence and having to navigate the world and its temptations. It's like Emil being sheltered in his own world until he becomes aware of unusual, strange things (strange because it's his level of innocence and unawareness of real life in the beginning). Plus Emil has to deal with that opposing factors can coexist - eg, good and evil. We see this in the mv a lot - good and evil, flight and fall, heaven and hell, angel and devil statues until Jin meets the statue where these contrasts coexist. The winged status represents Abraxas who has good and evil coexisting but also represents flight and fall considering that it lost its wings, plus it being a white statue with black wings. Okay back to the cracking or destruction of things.The destruction represents that loss but also influences his development into something more - like what was said in the video - 'finding your true self' or self development through understanding of Jungian archetypes. But even with this destruction and basically Emil's safe secure world shattering, he finds out what the real world is like and he's drawn to it so much that he needs more of it (refer to repetition of 'more' in the lyrics itself). Tbh I have so many thoughts about this whole music video that it will turn into a whole unplanned essay but I'll stop here. :)
But still the statue used is of the Christian Mary. Despite everything i still think they shouldn't have destroyed her statue's face. Meaning for the mv or not, a lot of times when people attack churches they destroy christian statues' faces, im Syrian and my father is Iraqi, so i know what im talking about....so its disrespectfullness at its maximum. I dont care about blasphemy, im an atheist, but people on internet cant always talk about "respect this" "respect that" and then they are okay with the destroying of a christian religious statue in a video that they knew billions of people would have watched. The company for once should have said what that was or not having done that at all. They can't go to Saudi and cover up the space between the legs of the female staff "to respect the country thoughts" and then they destroy a christian religious statue on a MV :/:/ And i repeat...im an atheist from fudging Syria
I want to reinforce the comments about how much we appreciate your discussions and viewpoints. Yes, we humans, from all cultures, use what we know and are familiar with to understand new things. You are fully aware of your perspective and its influences. It sounds like some of the commentors were not aware of their own. Their comments say more about them then it does about you. Love you guys, and I enjoy your shorts and podcasts.
Kyle, get ready for the Jungkook, Charlie Puth release tomorrow. We are even getting a MV….it already has so much hype & hasn’t even been released yet. I’ve said it many times already but I truly enjoy & appreciate your reactions. You are always respectful to BTS & that does not go unnoticed.
@@BeardsBoozeBandsBS I do like, enjoy and appreciate your reactions on BTS. Don't worry about the negative and hateful commenters. They're not true Armys. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
As everyone has said people who react in an ill mannered way have no business claiming to be Army. That's not what BTS is about. I appreciate your reactions and research. You put forth effort to understand the guy's which is great. Looking forward to your next BTS reaction.
Hey guys. The entire Wings era is basically about temptation and coming to accept that you have both good and evil in you. The Wings short films have RM reading from Demian too. There is a connection between Hesse and Jung and they moved on to Jungian themes next. The statue represents Abraxas rather than Lucifer, as in the book, and Yoongi at the organ also represents a character in the book, one who had a positive influence on Sinclair. My mind is scattered but note in Yet to Come the statue in the desert has white wings now. There a lot of small differences in the Yet to Come MV looking back on past videos and themes that reflect growth and change. I think others explained the statue breaking apart very well.
I apologize from my end for any kind of hate. Armies are really upset becouse of the way media ans other people reacted to it and tried to get profit out of it. Boys themselves felt hurt from all that jungkook and RM even came to clear all the news about disbandment. In few days everyone will understand what's happening. And they are just taking time to heal. Again sorry for all the ride comments. 💜
I think someone wants to be in one of your reaction videos 😂 So cute to see her dancing in the background to the music. I'm constantly finding new things in their videos, it's amazing what planning goes into them. Also, "What Dreams May Come" is one of my favorite movies.
Bit of advice, any bad or negative comments, block and move on. Don't dwell. True ARMY are always grateful to genuine reactors like you and will comment, give advice, inform and recommend, all in a respectful manner. We try to practice what BTS preach!💜
This MV is sort of in the middle of the storyline. So it's understandable that the meaning is unclear for you. It's like opening a book and starting reading at chapter 10 lol J-Hope is the one in front of the Madonna and child. His character is associated with the image of a mother and child as it has a key meaning for his character. Another famous piece of art, a painting simply called Mother and Child, is used in association with his character. Man this is difficult to explain without spoilers! lol Basically this is the point in story where they give in to temptation (or are forced to face the grown up world for the first time) and loose their innocence. Each of them have had something (an object) that represents both that innocence (in J-Hopes case a candy bar) and the catalyst for that loss ( the breaking of the image of mother and child). So I see the breaking of the statue as his loss of innocence in a sudden, violent manner. And that's all I'm going to say because ...spoilers! lol
To understand the meaning of the representation of the mother they should watch LOVE YOURSELF Highlight Reel. Tho I would prefer if they start at the very begining of the storyline because it's mindblowing.
despite everything i still think they shouldn't have destroyed her statue's face. Meaning for the mv or not, a lot of times when people attack churches they destroy christian statues' faces, im Syrian and my father is Iraqi, so i know what im talking about....so its disrespectfullness at its maximum. I dont care about blasphemy, im an atheist, but people on internet cant always talk about "respect this" "respect that" and then they are okay with the destroying of a christian religious statue in a video that they knew billions of people would have watched. The company for once should have said what that was. They can't go to Saudi and cover up the space between the legs of the female staff "to respect the country thoughts" and then they destroy a christian religious statue on a MV :/:/ And i repeat...im an atheist from fudging Syria
Yes! Please watch the making of BST mv and if possible explanation video as well. The depth of layers of symbolism and references in this mv is incredible. I think colleges can go into a whole year of classes just to analyze this whole concept and the relativity and impact it gives to humans in general. As ARMY can agree, what makes BTS more special than any other artists is that BTS doesn't just make great music for music's sake but they go beyond to educate and heal us. They are the ones who teaches us how to fish instead of just giving us the fish. They educate us to think for ourselves and heal ourselves in the process. I can honestly say that I have never seen any other music artist ever do that in my lifetime. They are more than just musicians or artists. They are a movement for humanity and an innovator of the music industry. Even though, not all of their music may be everybody's cup of tea but you'll be missing out on a treasure trove of music wonders if you let the negative comments discourage you from delving deeper into the vast BTS discography. ARMY will always be here for BTS so as long as you put up genuinely respectful honest reactions. Hope BTS enrich your souls as they did mine. Hope you keep up the great work and I appreciate your extra research.😊
people are always gonna be rude and they don't represent our community at all, don't pay attention to them. we truly appreciate your honest and raw thoughts. really loved the reaction. fighting
Mary is the ultimate mother figure and symbol of being safe/innocent at home. The song is about accepting the temptations of the world. Thus Mary is destroyed because once innocent is breached, it's lost forever.
The shattering sculpture of Mary it's a representation of the lost of one's innocence~ BUT it has to do with the thematic that J-HOPE is having in all the BU too. He has a story about him and his mother in that universe that it's really interesting~ his solo teasers and MVs ("Wings Short film: MAMA", "Boys Meet Devil" and Smeraldo Notes, etc) could being of help for you to understand💖 Great video guys! I really like to hear your afterthought about their MVs~
'Blood Sweat & Tears' is a song that shows how one thinks, chooses, and grows." Suga added that "the song conveys an optimistic determination to use our wings to go far, even if we encounter temptations in life." Lyrically, the song talks about the pain of young addictive love.
I didn’t see the video that the rude comments were mentioned. I really enjoy your journey into BTS and please don’t let those none true fans deter you from enjoying their music. Those who over reacted ran on immature emotions. I love this song and video because it shows how unique BTS is. Thank you and love you guys 💕.
It was the yet to come video. I didn't watch it because of the comments only the part where they compared BTS to western boybands and said that they won't come back as a group. The comments were upset because of the subject but still not that bad. People understand that they don't have knowledge of BTS and how different they are from most groups and also limited knowledge about how idol industry works. So most of us as not that affected by it. I was a bit disappointed but not that upset. And I appreciate their opinion even when factually they are wrong about things due to lack of proper background and knowledge on the subject. I am not going to judge them for that.
late to the party, but enjoyed the reaction. On the one hand, it's great that you did the research. On the other hand, one of the joys of watching blind reactions to BS&T is anticipating and then viewing the reactor's face when Jin kisses the statue. The moment of paralysis and then the "WTF" response--pure gold every time.
The part where RM speaks, Jin with the balloon, it mirrors Banksy's portrait. The portrait represents the loss of innocense, the portrait also represent the fact that in our innocense, childhood, we always have hope. So it is also shows the loss of hope. Fun fact, Banksy had a build in paper shredder in that portrait. When the portrait sold, the shredder was activated and the portrait was shredded half way. BANKSY stated that art is not for sale, which in my opinion circles back to what they said in Yet to come.
I have watched so many reactions to this one and there really are different interpretations out there and that is exactly what bts want from their music. For people to view their music like a painting. 💜
As long as doing youtube reacting, you will get some or more upsetting commentings. However, just see how many more positive and constructive commentings you get. The majority people appreciate and enjoy sharing a common interest with you guys. Also think of BTS, these young guys have been receiving tons & tons of hate messages even a lot worse than what you have gotton and even death treats so many times throughout. One can only guess how they felt and how much they had to swallow disappointments & bitterness and overcome depressions and distructive criticisms. Thanks for your reviews and taking times to research.
Don’t pay attention to the hate and negativity, believe me most of us just watch and enjoy and even we don’t agree with your opinions we respect that and sometimes we may explain something if you misunderstood anything. But that’s it. As Taehyung as said 90% of the fandom understands. So keep doing what you do. Appreciate it. 💜💜💜
You'll notice the clothes have some androgynous quality, thats awesome becoz sensuality & femininity combined w/ hardness & masculinity is the ultimate combination of power, depth and seductive temptation, remember the Angels have no real gender.
In the novel Demian, Demian was described as both feminine and masculine, so I think it's intentional to dress the boys this way. Very clever I will say.
@@tigerlilyem-o9s very clever indeed. I think Bang PD having graduated with a degree in Aesthetics really knows how to incorporate all forms of art- fashion, painting,poetry etc. into BTS videos in a way that is astounding and beautiful.
I really enjoy your reactions and hope those non-ARMY don't discourage you from continuing to explore BTS with us. True art has layers and takes many looks to fully appreciate it. With BTS this is not only the case with the videos, but also with the lyrics and production. Every time I watch BTS, I discover something new even years later. I love your approach and look forward to your future reactions to our guys.
Blood, Sweat and Tears is one of my favorite songs and videos! Every time I watch it I find something new and different. I really like your interpretations of the songs!
As a big Kpop and BTS fan, can't tell you how much I appreciated this reaction. Thanks for getting to the point and sharing your faith & (very thought provoking) comments. Subscribed!
20:46 I love all BTS albums, but the WINGS era was one of the most iconic. I'll try to explain within what I know about what could be the reason behind the mother statue in this MV (remember, it's just my interpretation). There will be spoilers, but I will only highlight the J-hope part. I don't know if what I'm going to explain can help you understand, but I can't miss the opportunity. There are many representations that are used in the clips, and over time, they will improve their meaning within the B.U (BTS Universe - which is the fictional world created by the group, which revolves around theories and concepts interconnected with all the eras of the albums). ). For example, in the statue of the angel with black wings, which was only revealed years later with Black Swan. In the Highlight Reel that was released in the Love Yourself era (2017), it shows that in B.U, J-hope was abandoned by his mother in a park, where his mother left him with a chocolate bar and asked him to tell it with his eyes closed. .and she disappeared into the crowd. In the MV for I NEED U (released years before the L.Y era and consequent before this information above, in 2015) it shows him using medication compulsively, and after that, he passes out in the middle of a bridge, alone. In WINGS (2016) we discover why. This Era has a short film for each member (because on this album each member has a solo). In J-hope's video, in a very psycholectic way and using metaphors and excerpts from Demian, the base book of this era (just watching to understand) is portrayed to us that he has Munchaüsen syndrome, which is a psychological disorder in which the person simulates symptoms or forces the appearance of diseases, encouraged by the use of medicines. And at the end of an outbreak, he sees a picture of a mother hugging a child... that's why he constantly appears next to the statue that appears to be the representation of Mary with her son in Blood, Sweet and Tears. It was the loss of innocence, of the lap, of faith (both religious, but not only in this one... in life itself)... and the beginning of her precipice towards madness, trauma of an abandoned child. We can highlight his own solo in this album, which is called MAMA, where in his performance at the shows, in the final part, a choir appears (resembling a gospel choir) and on the screens he shows a colored window of a church, as if he really was in a temple, and in the lyrics, thanks for all the love from his mother (Apart from the theory part, J-hope composed this song for his mother who with many sacrifices encouraged him in his career, so it is truly a way of thanks and honor her), but also fits perfectly into the needs of the then character abandoned by her mother in her delirium. And it is worth mentioning in the Mv of Fake Love (2018), J-hope is in a room with objects from an amusement park, the same place where he was abandoned, holding the same chocolatre that his mother gave him. We still have the Web Toon "Save me" launched in 2019, where it goes in-depth in the form of a HQ all these and other theories around the boys. J-hope's is just one of those... Everything in BTS' theories is so tightly tied together, conceptualized...it may take years, but they tell the story. Loved your reaction, please continue (´▽`ʃ💜 ƪ)
I love the 'Beards, Booze, Bands - our guys here going to the rabbit-hole of BTS ;)) am 60+ yrs old women who love my Boy *B T S* through their music/lyric & messages!
I interpreted the Yet To one video as them preparing ARMY for the possibility that they may be required to serve in the military. That may still change but only time will tell. Who knows, maybe all 7 will serve (if required) at the same time. Their uncertainty is our uncertainty. If it's just a pause for them then awesome. They worked hard through the pandemic to keep our spirits lifted. Now is there time to relax and we all should let them do just that. They need to recharge their creative batteries and they will be back stronger than ever!
Ah this was my first song introduction to BTS a few years ago. This also coincides as being one of my favorite songs ever. Lyrically, this song is breathtaking. I ended up purchasing the book RM referenced here immediately afterward lol. But I love your take and your anecdotes on the whole music video in general. There is one thing no one really pointed out but after Jin kissed the depiction of Lucifer, the statue was seen crying from the right eye - which indicates happiness whereas Jimin is seen crying from his left eye which means sadness. It's so minuscule in the grand scheme of things but really, no detail should be missed when it comes to BigHit :). He's the one who had the wings in Black Swan and you can see it reflected back again after years. Hopefully one day you guys will watch the music video in the sequence of the BTS storyline. There you can see the obvious connections between the music videos (don't do it like me though I stayed up until 7am watching it and thinking J-Hopes mother truly abandoned him😅)
I’m sorry you guys have to go through that.. keep in mind that we appreciate all that you do and say! I love that you keep an open mind. Just do whatever you say or want as long as you know it in yourself that you’re being respectful. Like what RM said, don’t mind the hate. Even if it’s from the ARMY. They’re not all right anyway ❤️
I'd like to say that I think the two of you have ALWAYS been honest about and clear with your interpretations and intentions when it comes to BTS content. I appreciate how respectful you have been to both BTS and ARMY throughout your reactions from the VERY beginning. I've never watched one of your reactions and felt as though you belittled ARMY or knocked BTS' work. I especially appreciate that you share honest and authentic interpretations without sugar coating them while still maintaining positive intent. I could go on and on but I love your content and I look forward to seeing your continued discovery of the beautiful and diverse body of work that BTS has poured their blood, sweat, and tears (I had to) into creating for us. Thanks 💜
I love how you dive deep into the songs ! BTS' videos need to be watched multiple times, especially this one, it's impossible to get everything by only watching it once ^^ RM talked about the meaning of this song, saying that it's about the passage between childhood and adulthood. My interpretation of this is that, When we're children, we're innocent and protected by our environment. We learn from adults around us that we should only surround ourselves with "good" things. However when we become young adults and see the "real" world, we quickly realize that actually there is both the "good" and "evil", and the world can't existe without either of them. That's why here Jin kissed "Abraxas" the status representing the god of "light" and "darkness", meaning he now acknowledges both sides. If you listen to the Wings album, you will see that the boys are exploring both their "dark" side, something they started in the previous era HYYH (the most beautiful moment in life) and You never walk alone. Ultimately, this will lead to the love yourself series and the Map of the soul series. It's a journey where they discover their "real" selves. There is an explanation video by Bookish Theories I think, that explains all the details from Demian, the paintings etc PS: I apologize for any mistakes, since English is not my first language 😅
68 yo ARMY here. Keep doing what you're doing, and react the way you have been - whatever was intended by BTS in constructing the videos's references, the video is a work of art and subject to multiple readings/interpretations - you don't have to know what was intended to appreciate it and think about it. And you bring your own history/beliefs/perspectives to your interpretation, which is what makes your reactions so good - really like how thorough and thoughtful you are. Very sorry to hear you've been subject to negativity from (supposed) ARMYs. People who are defensive/critical of your approach are not true ARMYs (that's not the BTS way of respecting others), and thankfully, they're a small minority in the fandom. As you said so clearly, this is just your exploration of what this might mean. This video does have some really disturbing as well as beautiful imagery which is thought provoking, regardless of what BTS intended by it. Liked your references to the artwork/quotes/analogies. Keep up the good work!
The statue most likely represents Abraxus from the book Demian - not Lucifer. If you notice it is an androgynous figure showing both male and female characteristics. It refers to a specific part in the book.
Another awesome reaction video. This is my all time favourite song of theirs and it is so pleasing to see that you understand just how much work and effort BTS put into their songs and video's. You don't just take them on face value, you research the meanings behind the concepts and are always respectful of the artistry involved. Ignore the haters, there will always be those who try to be negative, just keep doing what you are doing and show us all awesome content :)
I was looking forward to another BTS reaction. Please don't let negative comments affect you guys, the fact that you give honest opinions is what makes your video stand out so much from other channels. Btw the cat is so cute, it made my day :)
this song was what made me an army in 2016 kekeke,, I only wanted to read the comments and people were talking about a lore and bAM I got into the bts rabbit hole hahaha this will forever be my fav bts song as it was my first and what made me an army and the whole aesthetic is just my fav oof I was so happy seeing this song live excited to watch more of your vids tomorrow,, this is gonna be entertaining ALSO THE CAT AHHHH SO CUTE THANK U FOR SHOWING YS UR CAT
Hey I recommend getting into the rest of the members' solo releases since you have only seen two of suga's and one of rm's so far 😊 My first rec is Taehyng's Singularity!
And stigma … I am still diving and just randomly stumble upon. Solo and group BTS songs I never knew I have found sound SoundCloud too be good with the free samples and such of BTS lots of variety also 🤩💜💜
Discussion and even disagreement are healthy parts of the fandom, hate is not. I had some issues with the YtC reaction, but would never be disrespectful or hateful in the expression of that. I enjoyed this reaction very much. Thank you for your thoughtfulness. There really is a lot to unpack from this song/mv.
I really enjoy watching your reactions. Please don’t let those negative comments stop you from voicing your opinions. I look forward to your next reaction.
BookishTheories has a great theory vid about this song (and many other songs), worth watching if you're interested. Thank you for your BTS reactions, I enjoy hearing you talk about the songs and mvs. 💜
Dont even waste your time on the haters in the world. Music and art are to be interpreted by the individual because we all have different life choices and experiences. We also like and hate different things. I love your reactions! I do recommend adding the track, intro: boy meets evil onto your track list. It is a solo song by j-hope with a music video attached to it
Ignore the haters, they are not true Army’s! You guys are doing a great job, please don’t let those haters keep you from reacting to BTS. Real ARMYS appreciate what you’re doing and will keep supporting you 💜💜💜
I watched your Yet to Come video and enjoyed your insights. You made smart and reasonable assumptions based on your experiences with other bands. The thing is that BTS and Army have a very special relationship. I have a dozen or so anecdotes on how they have been brutally honest with their fans (even against the company rules). For example Suga once couldn't perform due to an anxiety attack. The company never explained but he gave hints and mentioned it in one of the songs he wrote. So we believe them when they say this is just a break and they will come back. This is a unique situation and you were obviously entitled to your opinion and viewpoint.
Great song, Insane Video and as always, wonderful reaction guys. Sorry for any backlash you guys received on the last video. Have been watching your BTS journey since the beginning, and you are 2 of the most insightful and respectful reactors I follow. Please don't let those "fans" spoil your enjoyment of BTS & your journey, because it has been so much fun and educational to watch. I love both of your backgrounds and the discussions you have regarding what you see/hear. You are always well thought out, and funny and I just love the chemistry you have. I would love to have dinner with you guys and just watch your interaction/conversations! the amount of BTS content is vast - and you will have no shortage of things to explore.Getting into some of their solo stuff is a great idea - especially as they are moving in that direction. THere is even a clip circulating on Twitter showing RM saying they were going to do solo stuff during an interview for the album BE. And I also suggest you mix in more live stuff as well as the MV's - they are so much better live and you can see and feel their emotion, interactions, plus they usually remix beat for live. Also check out their dance practices if you want to see more robust choreo - or you can leave that part to Lindsey ;) RM - Change (with Wale), anything off Mono, DO You Suga/AgustD - The Last (for powerful lyrics), AgustD - self titled Jin - Epiphany, Awake, Moon J-Hope - Hope World, Boy Meets Evil (insane choreo), Daydream Jimin - Serendipity, Filter (live) V - SIngularity, Stigma (to see his vocal range - live), Winter Bear JK - Euphoria, Begin or one of his many covers (he's covered Puth's we dont talk, and Harry Styles Falling) ALso recommend doing Rap line Ddaeng, Ugh, Tear, you havent seen the Cyphers yet (live medley is a MUST WATCH) - and you should consider watching RM's Persona>Suga SHadow>J-Hope Ego as they hit on those Jungian theories. We're trying to prime you to get into the award shows because the 2019 MMA's is by far the most amazingly epic stage I have seen anywhere by anyone. If i had a time machine I would go back and be a member of the audience for this. As always ~ You Nice keep going!
You guys are not the only reactors that got attacked. I saw a lot of hurtful comments on others too. Hope you guys are feeling better. I’m enjoying your channel so far. Take care.
Really like your honest and open reactions. I did not realize you had received some negative comments last week. Very sorry about that. WRT this video, I understand the statue is that of "Abraxas" (who is supposed to both a god and demon, hence only wings are black) and not that of "Lucifer" . But my knowledge is limited, there are explanation videos that can better explain this video better.
You don't have to apologize to anyone for expressing your opinion...I just started watching your videos and I really enjoy them so much! As you are new to BTS era and stuff people have to accept and respect that and give you some time. I know that there are a lot of toxic fans in every fandom but just don't let those kind of hate comments affect you guys. You're doing an amazing job, keep going and fighting!💜💜💜(You being real and honest is what makes your videos unique)
Enjoyed your review & analysis of Blood Sweat & Tears! I really think this song & video are a true masterpiece. The time it must have taken to put all of the visual references together is commendable. Kudos not only to BTS but the entire staff, crew, and production team for a brilliant job! 💜
About Mary: Considering their age, I think the song is about knowledge, struggles and growing up tearing down your innocence. So them kissing Lucifer (temptation, knowledge) is them pushing beyond established boundaries in search of themselves and their ambitions, and when that shatters their innocence and potentially their purity as artists, Mary, the mother figure, breaks, as they are no longer kids, but corrupted adults whose dreams have turned into ambition and are close to crossing onto greed. That is my read anyway! I think this is supported by other songs by them. Suga’s solo work in particular grapples hard with greed vs healthy aspiration and creative impulse, and RM talks a lot about knowing himself and how he struggles to do that, a fight for authenticity towards himself and others. Something Suga also reflects by using multiple voices in his songs. Since the rapline have the most creative input, especially early on, imo my interpretation fits themes the group has covered both in their group music and their solo careers. I hope that makes sense!
You guys have become one (or should I say two) of my few favourite reactors. I really admire you making efforts to learn about the song before the reaction video is released. Your open mindedness and respect for our boys are truly appreciated. I'm sorry about the negative comments that you received. Please continue your journey down the BTS rabbit hole. Borahae!
Just to let you know, Jin is the main character in BU, he tries to save other members. I’m a 5 year old army, yet I still don’t understand the BU fully🤓
Thank you for your lovely reactions, I frequently end up learning new things with you that I might not have thought of on my own, so I I really appreciate the effort you put into each one. Since you have enough reactions on your list, I'll just wish you good luck on your journey! Take care and borahae 💜
At it's basics, BS&T is telling the story, that in order to become a full human, you must recognise that there is both good and bad in this world and readily embrace that the world is not just roses and sunshine as often your innocent childhood will lead you to believe. To understand what it means to be truly human and to grow as a person and spread your wings, you can only have true flight if you recognise that even yourself, you have both good and bad within you, that you will wrestle with this a lot as you go through adolescence and twenties but will eventually settle on what you are comfortable with but the strict abstinence in one domain will never let you truly realise yourself as it denies the fundamentals of human existence. Kissing lucifer is just symbolism that we must accept both our bad sides and good sides to understand ourselves as a whole. This is why Jin cracks in the mirror in the final scene, he has now shed his one sided innocent self and has become a fully realised human. In our adolescence and young adulthood, we struggle a lot to find ourselves, who we are, people telling us we are wrong or bad, praising what society sees as good. The whole wings album and short films and live performances is amazing and beautiful storytelling. Excited to see you guys react. The best explanation video out there for BS&T out there is the following th-cam.com/video/5tlgAUE6yjg/w-d-xo.html
My thoughts. I've been into this BTS rabbit hole since 2020. And as much as I love seeing reaction videos from everyone who appreciates BTS, I know (and we all know) some are just doing it to get views thus the fake reactions or over acting). So upon seeing your transition from "I have no idea who they are" to analyzing their videos, its not what everybody wants to hear but this is the content we need. Please don't hold back from your comments or comparisons. There's a thin line separating real fans from obsessed worshipers, many are overstepping the boundaries. And honestly I haven't heard a bad comment from you guys just constructive criticism. You guys are awesome!
The black winged statue is Abraxos. And the cracking and destruction of Mary's, and then Jin's, faces has to do with the destruction of the light side of a person once they've succumbed to temptation/acquired knowledge/question their place in the world of light vs. the world of darkness. The old self cracks and crumbles away so that their new self can be born.
I‘m sorry you had to experience this side of the fandom! I just found out about you two and I absolutely LOVE your reactions to BTS. And I love how honest you are. Some people just can‘t accept other opinions. Thank you for sticking around anyway. Lots of love💜
I love your interpretation of the video. When I first saw this without context or further reading/watching was Jin fell into temptation. I thought the video was him struggling between good and evil? When he kissed the stature, he destroyed his purity and that's why everything shattered/cried.
I am not sure if anyone mentioned it already but yet to come MV was full of references from their past MVs. They did it since the song was for the anthology album so through yet to come they brought back things from past MVs.
It has often been my opinion that people who leave hateful/angry comments are miserable creatures that find joy in making others miserable as well, and I'm sorry they decided to dump on you. You guys are entitled to your opinions just like everybody else and nobody has any right to tell you that you are not. They are more than welcome to leave and not come back. I think you guys are awesome, so keep doing what you're doing! Love the cameo appearance in the background LOL! Something I would have done (probably did do) to my dad when I was that age. I love this video. The explanation video that I watched helped with a few things, but I think that coming from a religious background, and art appreciation and other humanities classes in college, I found that this video didn't have me confused and scratching my head, as with other people that I've seen react to it. I will say I may have paid more attention in class if THIS was used in the lesson plan LOL! Love you guys!!
That whole album, Wings, is a revelation. I really recommend Boy Meets Evil by J-HOPE from it as well. It explores same topic of temptation and growing up, and it feels darker. Also, if you have time, watch 2016 MMA or MAMA award show performance (I don't quite remember which one) where they are doing a few of the songs from Wings live. It's phenomenal. I can only apologise for harsh and rude comments which came your way. In a fandom that big you'll always find zealots. All the best 💜💜💜💜💜
Second comment, but I want to add how impressed I am of your knowledge of the many different hidden eggs in the video. It was nice to hear a new point of view of explanation 💜🌈
I did wanna mention is the statue is Abraxas actually. I watched the meaning of yet to come and that is the statue of Abraxas I did wanna help yall out. It's the one Jin kissed.
There is an excellent explanation video for this music video by Don’t Worry I’m Not Afraid that I think you guys would get into. I’ve watched all your BTS reaction videos and I feel like you guys give respectful reactions. I appreciate how real you guys are.
Blood Sweat and Tears video and song were built and written based on Demian, a novel by Hermann Hesse which won a nobel prize in literature back in 1946. I read this book (because of this Mv) and I'll try my best to interpret and summarize the story here.
The story follows a young boy named Sinclair who had a friend named Demian. Demian acted as Sinclair's mentor during his childhood and transition to adulthood. Sinclair as a young adult experienced series of existential crisis, believing he lived in between the world of light (the world of illusion, full of goodness) and "the dark world" (the real world which was full of lust, temptation, anger and evil world).
Demian, and later on Sinclair's another mentor Pistorius, believed that in order to become a full person a human needs to embrace both of their light and dark sides. This will then lead Sinclair to find out about Abraxas, the god of light and darkness.
There are sooo many imageries and jawdropping details on the MV that represent details in the book. But the point is this song is about the loss of innocence and temptation, about being a human and embracing both of your good and dark sides.
The scene where Jin kissed the statue (which I believe the representation of Abraxas) means he seals the deal with the devil himself in order to fully embrace himself as a person who isn't perfect, full of flaws.
The white and black doors represent the world of light and the real world. Suga playing piano represents Pistorius who was an organ player in the story. The phrase that RM read in English here was also taken from the book, page 26 (on the version that I read). It says "He too was a tempter, he too was a link to the second, the evil world with which I no longer have anything to do."
"He" here refers to Demian, that Sinclair once thought as a bad influence for him, maybe it's because Sinclair tried to deny his dark sides.
The book is heavily influenced by a swiss philosopher and psychiatrist Carl Jung. One of his pupils was Hermann Hesse's doctor back then. This MV and song are also influenced by a german philosopher Nietzche. There's a quote by him on the wall above the painting that Jin is staring at. It is in German but it means "You must have chaos within you in order to give a birth to a dancing star". Again, the same theme occurs here, about embracing both of your light and dark sides. Only by accepting your flaws and mistakes you can reach your true potentials.
Hesse learned a lot about Jung's psychoanalysis and experienced it himself so that was why Demian was heavily influenced by it. What makes it even more interesting, BTS album MOTS 7 is also based on Carl Jung's theory (hence the songs Persona, Shadow, and Ego were born-- these 3 elements are important in Jung's theory Maps of the Soul).
BTS are deep, my friends. They talk about real things like the pain of growing up and youth's experience. They literally make a lot of armys become smarter and read on classic literature like this because of them. lol. Welcome to the fandom!
(Please note once again that this is all my own interpretation after reading the book, take it with a grain of salt.)
Perfect !! 🙇🏻♀️💜
Great summary and solid interpretation.
So it's about kiss between men?
@@Oleg_1998 Are you stupid bro?
@@Oleg_1998 did you read the whole comment?
cause this is just the one aspect
The negative and hateful people are not true bts armys don’t pay no attention to them you guys are really fun to watch 💜 thanks
I totally agree. A big No hate on Armys. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
10000%💜💜💜
I've personally enjoyed watching you 2 being open to BTS and not stereotyping all fans as teenage girls. Dont let the negativity stop you from voicing your thoughts. And YES!! Jhope is amazing!!!!!!
I am a teacher in literature. And I am in awe of how theese young men got a LOT of young people to read a novel by a Nobel prize winning author to learn the meaning behind this MV. The staty is Abraxas, I believe. And no need to get defensive! Isn't it interesting when people getting argumentative? That feeds new thoughts. Let us listen to one another. Have a nice day!
Last week was a hard week for everyone especially after Joons letter he posted voicing how upset he was that media was twisting their words about them not coming back but anyways good reactions! This song and video was ahead of its time.
I really felt bad as well. Especially worried for Joon, he was so upset. He was also upset that his most vulnerable moment in festa was plastered everywhere and him sharing his deepest thoughts was taken so much out of context.
Them getting emotional was construed as them breaking up which was wrong.
Also he has put his entire soul into BTS. For people to come out and say that.... No wonder he sounded so protective.
@@shivangiagrawal2665 I know it's impossible, but a part of me wishes there was a way for them to share that vulnerable heart-to-heart with Armys while keeping that moment away from the vultures in the media. Joon should have had the space to speak with his brothers and with us fans while being as open, honest and vulnerable as he felt comfortable being without having to deal with awful people capitalizing on his pain in the aftermath. It's cruel and unfair that he has to watch people enjoy his pain when that moment was for Army and BTS eyes mainly. It was unavoidable though.
@@ZariDV yeah how great would that be if that was possible.
Heard this somewhere -" 20% of the fandom makes 80% of the noise" so remember you both are appreciated more than it appers.
Personally, I interpret the destruction(?) of Madonna’s statue as the boy’s loss of innocence (the MV started with them playing, with the toys and books they hold symbolizing childhood and Jin’s discovery of the painting as opening to desires), and for a mother, her child falling into temptation would “break” her.
Agreed with this statement.
That’s a great view. I appreciate that. And it makes great sense.
I agree. Jin kissing the Lucifer is like making pact with the devil, giving in the temptation. And mother Marry represents innocence (virgin Marry), so destruction of statue is loosing the innocence.
I red Demian long time ago, but I remember the feeling while reading it, like Demian is the devil who is tempting the main character and somehow has a bad influence on him.
Also Jin kissing the statue of devil reminds me of Faust and selling the soul to the devil.
V's smirk, i would say he represents the devil and he's like "i got you" when Jin kissed the statue.
@@jelenastefanovic2155 it's not Lucifer btw,it's abraxas
I haven't read the book, but I heard that Sinclaire's big influence was his mother and religion. He was sheltered his entire life and through religion, his world view was black and white. (BTW, this corresponds to the author's life as well). So breaking of pieta makes sense cause it represents both of these things. Once Damien (and other mentors) started appearing in Sinclair's life, the image he had of life (and religion, and his parents) shattered
I enjoyed this reaction very much. One of the reasons I watch you guys reacting to BTS is because you really try to understand not just the lyrics but also the MV. I’ve seen other reactors who constantly praise the group and offer a shallow interpretation. So I love the deep dive you do. Who uses Herman Hesse and Nietzsche in their MV? Or dedicate an entire album (MOTS Persona and 7) to explore Carl Jung’s process of individuation? Perhaps some day you will look at each album because BTS has themes with each album (series of albums too). You also brought out details I didn’t realize! This was fun! Thank you! 💜
We had A LOT of fun reacting to this one, too. Thank you for watching! :) - Kyle
@@BeardsBoozeBandsBS i am glad to hear that
@@BeardsBoozeBandsBS Sorry this is long / but just for you ( older fan ).
💜 1st love your reactions! I am older than both of you and can understand a lot of your references. I love that you use what you know to understand this. It’s natural. I really hope you are enjoying your journey ( minus rude comments).I have been on this journey 6 years and still learning.
I found the TH-cam channel DKDK TV to be very helpful. They are a Korean TH-cam channel ( they are easy to understand don’t worry - no need for captions) who seem ( as far as I can tell ) focus on Korean culture and K-pop. They have explanation videos for A-LOT of BTS videos.
Not only do they translate any Korean lyrics into English, but since sometimes a word can have complex meanings they also translate the meanings of the words for the song. They tell us about any cultural meanings behind the songs. I would go and type in DKDK TV explanation for Blood, Sweat, and Tears. Then watch it and not only will you see what I mean , but you’ll appreciate getting translations and meanings straight for a reliable source.
They will also translate the lat Festa dinner too. As the translation to English for that was really bad ( incorrect and not complete ). I would watch these off camera so you can take your time and enjoy the process. I would also say to look at them or XxCeleste for info as both only state factual info they have found ( especially XxCeleste ). She will actually tell you if she is not sure or that she is still looking into official info. They have better resources since they are closer to the source. Any way enjoy.
( also ) Other channels other than these two can give you More Detailed info , different perspectives on the group/individuals or delve into the theory explanation parts of things ( they are NOT lacking at all, and have nothing wrong with them. Top two above just mainly deal with straightforward facts which are the starting point before expanding into all the Details of BTS. )
2. In the 6 years I have been following them I have seen more positive then negative BTS fans. As WE know it comes with the territory ( not pleasant to deal with , but yeah).
The worst ones I report ( wether BTS related or not.. bad is bad). The others I skip by. I am sorry you had to deal with them, but hopefully that is past and done for now.
Just know that people who truly consider themselves ARMY try to follow and learn from the example the boys create with their behavior, actions and moral beliefs towards others and what is and is not considered an appropriate response to things.
This is good as well…. They just make you want to be a better person without realizing it , to want to learn more , discover more and help more. They do it without fully understanding just how refreshing they are for the music scene and beyond. They enjoy each other’s company honestly and let us in and have broken down and still let us in as much as possible.
I want to still discover more and be better , partly because of them. I also appreciate the fact that they are ok with me being me and accept that I wouldn’t always think just like them OR just follow them blindly with out thinking for myself. I like having extra encouragement to just be the best me I can be with no other expectations. It’s nice to not have to adult all the time.
So I hope you can balance out the bad and weigh in the good. We ( ARMY) really need people like you who do reactions in such a straight forward and honest way.
You make them think and bring a different perspective than they have had before ( frankly by people who look old enough to have more than enough experience to give varied opinions. ). So please keep it up 👍🏻 this old one really appreciates what you guys do and enjoys watching your reactions. 💜👍🏻 🪨+ ing + 🪑😁
Rude comments can''t be helped and it will again happen, like for others too! But I appreciate you both for being honest and being open. I also love how you try to get into their MVs and other stuff one at a time. I like your thoughts and insights and the fact that you also check other vids of them for extra knowledge and to support the MVs you'd be reacting - that only shows how you wanted to learn things about them. And we're here for that! I hope you continue on.. and just like RM said in Vegas, let's ignore the haters and love the ones who loves us :) Thank you again for this reaction!
yes pls dont mind the rude comments! true, like namjoon said, let the haters hate, the lovers love. much love!
I’m technically Catholic too, although a very bad one with pagan leanings BUT, the Mary part caught my attention as well but to me it just felt like an additional representation of a loss of innocence, and everything breaking down. Once through this journey, you can’t go back and everything you knew to be true before, breaks down and you have to look at it with new eyes. Jin cracking, Jimins green tears, chaos initiating growth. In this video I feel like she was the lone representation of the mother archetype, and she cannot prevent the loss of innocence, or coming of age.
Yeah, I also wondered if it was the moving away from the mother ideal, Mary and embracing, literally kissing, the fallen angel/ new idea of Lucifer/knowledge. The idea that you must destroy the past or really, the past ceases to be ie explodes dramatically? once you move past it. Like you said, you literally can never go back. So, it was the extra dramatic way or moving forward past being cradled, even in death, to a future walking forward and meeting a new thing alone and on your own terms.
There was also, Hermes and Hestia? I think in the background in some scenes behind doorways, visually different spaces, and they were two important household gods so overall it's a coming of age story but why didn't those gods crumble too? Or were the MV chars walking towards making their own spaces apart from the Mary as mother idea. Gosh. I could talk/think about this for one thousand years and really? I think the best part about this video is how rich it is in imagery that gives so much leeway for interpretation, it has a strong central idea Growing Up, but around that there's so much more.
@@saintleadcrow Yes. Each reference is it’s own little rabbit hole, yet they mesh together. The mother archetype is fascinating. I am always reminded that everyone was once someone’s little baby. There is that moment a parent recognizes their helplessness in being able to protect their child from everything. As a child you also have to recognize when it’s time to separate from the parents protection. As a mother I was constantly aware of the milestones in my sons life where I was being “replaced” by his growth and experiences. They need you every second until a certain point and then those needs fall away one by one. Sometimes they replace those needs with themselves, sometimes they hand them to someone else. The temptation in this video is really beautiful.
@@bluehourtarot I don't know why, buy you saying that made me emotional, because I'm at the stage in between needing my parents and finding independence. Also being in the place of the parent and realising that you are no longer needed feels heartbreaking, even if I'm far from that stage in life.
@@hvladarosie Oh, I’m sorry you feel bad but maybe you needed to put some words to it.
You were able to put in words what I was thinking! Thank you!!!
Strap in for my explanation for the shattering Pietà!
The Pietà depicts Mary grieving her son, a loss of innocence. Both, the philosophy of Demian and of the work the Nietzsche quote was lifted from, say that a loss of innocence is necessary to start to come into one's true self.
Following that thought, it's necessary to let go of one's grief for the loss of innocence to truely become a complete, true self. Therefore this representation of grieving a loss of innocence shattering is a depiction of the final step in self-actualization: finally letting go of your grief for what was and accepting the truth of light and dark, good and evil, temptation and resistance in the world.
After this grief finally passes (shatters), the "old" version of Jin starts to crack. I see this crack as less of a "Jin will shatter" and more as a "a new Jin is about to be born", like a bird from an egg.
(Sorry if this I expressed this badly, English is not my first language!)
I can get behind this interpretation
To tie in with this.. the part where RM speaks, Jin with the balloon, it mirrors Banksy's portrait. The portrait represents the loss of innocense, the portrait also represent the fact that in our innocense, childhood, we always have hope. So it is also shows the loss of hope. Fun fact, Banksy had a build in paper shredder in that portrait. When the portrait sold, the shredder was activated and the portrait was shredded half way. BANKSY stated that art is not for sale, which in my opinion circles back to what they said in Yet to come.
This is how I interpreted the statue of Mary. In BTS's universe there will be a lot of references to the mother (basically her influence, whether present or absent, positive or negative). The videos, short films and even the Notes will have references and it will be a lot to go into them and be a bit spoilerish so I wont. But since Blood, sweat and tears heavily references Demian: The story of Emil Sinclair's youth by Hermann Hesse and he is influenced by Carl Jung, the female figures in the novel are represented by Emil's mother, Demian's mother Frau Eva and even a woman named Beatrice.
In the novel itself we see Emil interacting with certain characters and because Hesse is influenced by Jung, I saw those characters as representing Jungian archetypes of self, persona, shadow, ego (which BTS have addressed in their music videos). But we also have the anima/animus archetype which I believe the statue represents. Men would be represented by their inner anima (feminine) while women would have their inner animus (masculine). So in anima there are 4 main figures - Eve, Helen, Mary and Sophia. Mary is supposed to represent righteousness and be a 'paragon of virtue' and yes, the name was taken from the Virgin Mary. At least to my knowledge the statue wasn't taken to mean Mary (as the mother of Jesus) but what she represents as in being a mother and of course her status in society. So in overall the statue represents the anima in Jung's collective unconscious theory.
Just to add - the cracking of the statues, Jin's face, all represents the concept of 'the bird flies out of the egg...' a quote in reference to Abraxas. And for a bird to emerge from an egg, it needs to destroy that protection, that shell that keeps them secure from the outside world. And a mother should form that 'protection' because she is supposed to represent comfort and security, supposed to guide to you what's right and guide you away from what's wrong. But in the mv there are all these temptations as the guys are in their maturity stage, grown beyond adolescence and having to navigate the world and its temptations. It's like Emil being sheltered in his own world until he becomes aware of unusual, strange things (strange because it's his level of innocence and unawareness of real life in the beginning). Plus Emil has to deal with that opposing factors can coexist - eg, good and evil. We see this in the mv a lot - good and evil, flight and fall, heaven and hell, angel and devil statues until Jin meets the statue where these contrasts coexist. The winged status represents Abraxas who has good and evil coexisting but also represents flight and fall considering that it lost its wings, plus it being a white statue with black wings. Okay back to the cracking or destruction of things.The destruction represents that loss but also influences his development into something more - like what was said in the video - 'finding your true self' or self development through understanding of Jungian archetypes. But even with this destruction and basically Emil's safe secure world shattering, he finds out what the real world is like and he's drawn to it so much that he needs more of it (refer to repetition of 'more' in the lyrics itself).
Tbh I have so many thoughts about this whole music video that it will turn into a whole unplanned essay but I'll stop here. :)
But still the statue used is of the Christian Mary. Despite everything i still think they shouldn't have destroyed her statue's face. Meaning for the mv or not, a lot of times when people attack churches they destroy christian statues' faces, im Syrian and my father is Iraqi, so i know what im talking about....so its disrespectfullness at its maximum. I dont care about blasphemy, im an atheist, but people on internet cant always talk about "respect this" "respect that" and then they are okay with the destroying of a christian religious statue in a video that they knew billions of people would have watched. The company for once should have said what that was or not having done that at all. They can't go to Saudi and cover up the space between the legs of the female staff "to respect the country thoughts" and then they destroy a christian religious statue on a MV :/:/ And i repeat...im an atheist from fudging Syria
I want to reinforce the comments about how much we appreciate your discussions and viewpoints. Yes, we humans, from all cultures, use what we know and are familiar with to understand new things. You are fully aware of your perspective and its influences. It sounds like some of the commentors were not aware of their own. Their comments say more about them then it does about you. Love you guys, and I enjoy your shorts and podcasts.
Kyle, get ready for the Jungkook, Charlie Puth release tomorrow. We are even getting a MV….it already has so much hype & hasn’t even been released yet. I’ve said it many times already but I truly enjoy & appreciate your reactions. You are always respectful to BTS & that does not go unnoticed.
we will wait the 24 hours to release our reaction!
@@BeardsBoozeBandsBS I do like, enjoy and appreciate your reactions on BTS. Don't worry about the negative and hateful commenters. They're not true Armys. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
As everyone has said people who react in an ill mannered way have no business claiming to be Army. That's not what BTS is about. I appreciate your reactions and research. You put forth effort to understand the guy's which is great. Looking forward to your next BTS reaction.
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@@BeardsBoozeBandsBS I love that you already know the rulesss
Hey guys. The entire Wings era is basically about temptation and coming to accept that you have both good and evil in you. The Wings short films have RM reading from Demian too. There is a connection between Hesse and Jung and they moved on to Jungian themes next. The statue represents Abraxas rather than Lucifer, as in the book, and Yoongi at the organ also represents a character in the book, one who had a positive influence on Sinclair. My mind is scattered but note in Yet to Come the statue in the desert has white wings now. There a lot of small differences in the Yet to Come MV looking back on past videos and themes that reflect growth and change.
I think others explained the statue breaking apart very well.
I apologize from my end for any kind of hate. Armies are really upset becouse of the way media ans other people reacted to it and tried to get profit out of it. Boys themselves felt hurt from all that jungkook and RM even came to clear all the news about disbandment.
In few days everyone will understand what's happening. And they are just taking time to heal.
Again sorry for all the ride comments. 💜
I think someone wants to be in one of your reaction videos 😂
So cute to see her dancing in the background to the music.
I'm constantly finding new things in their videos, it's amazing what planning goes into them.
Also, "What Dreams May Come" is one of my favorite movies.
Love that movie and also it has a ton of meaning.
Hang in there guys! It really was a perfect storm of happenings. 💜
Thanks for watching and commenting, as always! :)
Bit of advice, any bad or negative comments, block and move on. Don't dwell. True ARMY are always grateful to genuine reactors like you and will comment, give advice, inform and recommend, all in a respectful manner. We try to practice what BTS preach!💜
Jungkook is actually a big fan of Justin Bieber and has done covers to many of his songs! 😊
This MV is sort of in the middle of the storyline. So it's understandable that the meaning is unclear for you. It's like opening a book and starting reading at chapter 10 lol J-Hope is the one in front of the Madonna and child. His character is associated with the image of a mother and child as it has a key meaning for his character. Another famous piece of art, a painting simply called Mother and Child, is used in association with his character. Man this is difficult to explain without spoilers! lol Basically this is the point in story where they give in to temptation (or are forced to face the grown up world for the first time) and loose their innocence. Each of them have had something (an object) that represents both that innocence (in J-Hopes case a candy bar) and the catalyst for that loss ( the breaking of the image of mother and child). So I see the breaking of the statue as his loss of innocence in a sudden, violent manner. And that's all I'm going to say because ...spoilers! lol
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To understand the meaning of the representation of the mother they should watch LOVE YOURSELF Highlight Reel. Tho I would prefer if they start at the very begining of the storyline because it's mindblowing.
despite everything i still think they shouldn't have destroyed her statue's face. Meaning for the mv or not, a lot of times when people attack churches they destroy christian statues' faces, im Syrian and my father is Iraqi, so i know what im talking about....so its disrespectfullness at its maximum. I dont care about blasphemy, im an atheist, but people on internet cant always talk about "respect this" "respect that" and then they are okay with the destroying of a christian religious statue in a video that they knew billions of people would have watched. The company for once should have said what that was. They can't go to Saudi and cover up the space between the legs of the female staff "to respect the country thoughts" and then they destroy a christian religious statue on a MV :/:/ And i repeat...im an atheist from fudging Syria
Yes! Please watch the making of BST mv and if possible explanation video as well. The depth of layers of symbolism and references in this mv is incredible. I think colleges can go into a whole year of classes just to analyze this whole concept and the relativity and impact it gives to humans in general. As ARMY can agree, what makes BTS more special than any other artists is that BTS doesn't just make great music for music's sake but they go beyond to educate and heal us. They are the ones who teaches us how to fish instead of just giving us the fish. They educate us to think for ourselves and heal ourselves in the process. I can honestly say that I have never seen any other music artist ever do that in my lifetime. They are more than just musicians or artists. They are a movement for humanity and an innovator of the music industry. Even though, not all of their music may be everybody's cup of tea but you'll be missing out on a treasure trove of music wonders if you let the negative comments discourage you from delving deeper into the vast BTS discography. ARMY will always be here for BTS so as long as you put up genuinely respectful honest reactions. Hope BTS enrich your souls as they did mine. Hope you keep up the great work and I appreciate your extra research.😊
people are always gonna be rude and they don't represent our community at all, don't pay attention to them. we truly appreciate your honest and raw thoughts. really loved the reaction. fighting
Ah there’s also a Japanese version of this song and it has a music video. I highly recommend watching it🙌
If you haven’t already
Their japanese mvs get taken down easily so it'd be better to react to them on your own or on a patreon ig
Mary is the ultimate mother figure and symbol of being safe/innocent at home.
The song is about accepting the temptations of the world.
Thus Mary is destroyed because once innocent is breached, it's lost forever.
The shattering sculpture of Mary it's a representation of the lost of one's innocence~ BUT it has to do with the thematic that J-HOPE is having in all the BU too.
He has a story about him and his mother in that universe that it's really interesting~ his solo teasers and MVs ("Wings Short film: MAMA", "Boys Meet Devil" and Smeraldo Notes, etc) could being of help for you to understand💖
Great video guys! I really like to hear your afterthought about their MVs~
this is the video that pulled me into the Bangtan rabbit hole in 2016…still my number one video of BTS
'Blood Sweat & Tears' is a song that shows how one thinks, chooses, and grows." Suga added that "the song conveys an optimistic determination to use our wings to go far, even if we encounter temptations in life." Lyrically, the song talks about the pain of young addictive love.
I didn’t see the video that the rude comments were mentioned. I really enjoy your journey into BTS and please don’t let those none true fans deter you from enjoying their music. Those who over reacted ran on immature emotions. I love this song and video because it shows how unique BTS is. Thank you and love you guys 💕.
It was the yet to come video. I didn't watch it because of the comments only the part where they compared BTS to western boybands and said that they won't come back as a group. The comments were upset because of the subject but still not that bad. People understand that they don't have knowledge of BTS and how different they are from most groups and also limited knowledge about how idol industry works. So most of us as not that affected by it. I was a bit disappointed but not that upset. And I appreciate their opinion even when factually they are wrong about things due to lack of proper background and knowledge on the subject. I am not going to judge them for that.
seeing old bts mvs are quite nostalgic. thank you for reacting to one of their masterpieces
late to the party, but enjoyed the reaction. On the one hand, it's great that you did the research. On the other hand, one of the joys of watching blind reactions to BS&T is anticipating and then viewing the reactor's face when Jin kisses the statue. The moment of paralysis and then the "WTF" response--pure gold every time.
Loved the talk about the art 🖼. Loved your cat. Super cutie. Thank you for the video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
The part where RM speaks, Jin with the balloon, it mirrors Banksy's portrait. The portrait represents the loss of innocense, the portrait also represent the fact that in our innocense, childhood, we always have hope. So it is also shows the loss of hope. Fun fact, Banksy had a build in paper shredder in that portrait. When the portrait sold, the shredder was activated and the portrait was shredded half way. BANKSY stated that art is not for sale, which in my opinion circles back to what they said in Yet to come.
I have watched so many reactions to this one and there really are different interpretations out there and that is exactly what bts want from their music. For people to view their music like a painting. 💜
One of the best analyses of BS&T I've heard in years. Thanks!
As long as doing youtube reacting, you will get some or more upsetting commentings. However, just see how many more positive and constructive commentings you get. The majority people appreciate and enjoy sharing a common interest with you guys. Also think of BTS, these young guys have been receiving tons & tons of hate messages even a lot worse than what you have gotton and even death treats so many times throughout. One can only guess how they felt and how much they had to swallow disappointments & bitterness and overcome depressions and distructive criticisms. Thanks for your reviews and taking times to research.
Thanks for doing research and also educating us about the imagery and stuff! Love your takes on bts
Don’t pay attention to the hate and negativity, believe me most of us just watch and enjoy and even we don’t agree with your opinions we respect that and sometimes we may explain something if you misunderstood anything. But that’s it. As Taehyung as said 90% of the fandom understands.
So keep doing what you do.
Appreciate it.
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You'll notice the clothes have some androgynous quality, thats awesome becoz sensuality & femininity combined w/ hardness & masculinity is the ultimate combination of power, depth and seductive temptation, remember the Angels have no real gender.
I did notice that. Hmmm...not sure why I didn't mention it. LOL - Kyle
In the novel Demian, Demian was described as both feminine and masculine, so I think it's intentional to dress the boys this way. Very clever I will say.
@@tigerlilyem-o9s very clever indeed. I think Bang PD having graduated with a degree in Aesthetics really knows how to incorporate all forms of art- fashion, painting,poetry etc. into BTS videos in a way that is astounding and beautiful.
I really enjoy your reactions and hope those non-ARMY don't discourage you from continuing to explore BTS with us. True art has layers and takes many looks to fully appreciate it. With BTS this is not only the case with the videos, but also with the lyrics and production. Every time I watch BTS, I discover something new even years later. I love your approach and look forward to your future reactions to our guys.
Blood, Sweat and Tears is one of my favorite songs and videos! Every time I watch it I find something new and different. I really like your interpretations of the songs!
As a big Kpop and BTS fan, can't tell you how much I appreciated this reaction. Thanks for getting to the point and sharing your faith & (very thought provoking) comments. Subscribed!
Great reaction 💜! The statue isn’t Lucifer but the gnostic god Abraxas that is one the themes used in Demian.
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I love all BTS albums, but the WINGS era was one of the most iconic.
I'll try to explain within what I know about what could be the reason behind the mother statue in this MV (remember, it's just my interpretation). There will be spoilers, but I will only highlight the J-hope part.
I don't know if what I'm going to explain can help you understand, but I can't miss the opportunity.
There are many representations that are used in the clips, and over time, they will improve their meaning within the B.U (BTS Universe - which is the fictional world created by the group, which revolves around theories and concepts interconnected with all the eras of the albums). ). For example, in the statue of the angel with black wings, which was only revealed years later with Black Swan.
In the Highlight Reel that was released in the Love Yourself era (2017), it shows that in B.U, J-hope was abandoned by his mother in a park, where his mother left him with a chocolate bar and asked him to tell it with his eyes closed. .and she disappeared into the crowd.
In the MV for I NEED U (released years before the L.Y era and consequent before this information above, in 2015) it shows him using medication compulsively, and after that, he passes out in the middle of a bridge, alone.
In WINGS (2016) we discover why. This Era has a short film for each member (because on this album each member has a solo). In J-hope's video, in a very psycholectic way and using metaphors and excerpts from Demian, the base book of this era (just watching to understand) is portrayed to us that he has Munchaüsen syndrome, which is a psychological disorder in which the person simulates symptoms or forces the appearance of diseases, encouraged by the use of medicines. And at the end of an outbreak, he sees a picture of a mother hugging a child... that's why he constantly appears next to the statue that appears to be the representation of Mary with her son in Blood, Sweet and Tears. It was the loss of innocence, of the lap, of faith (both religious, but not only in this one... in life itself)... and the beginning of her precipice towards madness, trauma of an abandoned child.
We can highlight his own solo in this album, which is called MAMA, where in his performance at the shows, in the final part, a choir appears (resembling a gospel choir) and on the screens he shows a colored window of a church, as if he really was in a temple, and in the lyrics, thanks for all the love from his mother (Apart from the theory part, J-hope composed this song for his mother who with many sacrifices encouraged him in his career, so it is truly a way of thanks and honor her), but also fits perfectly into the needs of the then character abandoned by her mother in her delirium.
And it is worth mentioning in the Mv of Fake Love (2018), J-hope is in a room with objects from an amusement park, the same place where he was abandoned, holding the same chocolatre that his mother gave him.
We still have the Web Toon "Save me" launched in 2019, where it goes in-depth in the form of a HQ all these and other theories around the boys. J-hope's is just one of those...
Everything in BTS' theories is so tightly tied together, conceptualized...it may take years, but they tell the story.
Loved your reaction, please continue (´▽`ʃ💜 ƪ)
I love the 'Beards, Booze, Bands - our guys here going to the rabbit-hole of BTS ;))
am 60+ yrs old women who love my Boy *B T S* through their music/lyric & messages!
I interpreted the Yet To one video as them preparing ARMY for the possibility that they may be required to serve in the military. That may still change but only time will tell. Who knows, maybe all 7 will serve (if required) at the same time. Their uncertainty is our uncertainty. If it's just a pause for them then awesome. They worked hard through the pandemic to keep our spirits lifted. Now is there time to relax and we all should let them do just that. They need to recharge their creative batteries and they will be back stronger than ever!
Ah this was my first song introduction to BTS a few years ago. This also coincides as being one of my favorite songs ever. Lyrically, this song is breathtaking. I ended up purchasing the book RM referenced here immediately afterward lol.
But I love your take and your anecdotes on the whole music video in general.
There is one thing no one really pointed out but after Jin kissed the depiction of Lucifer, the statue was seen crying from the right eye - which indicates happiness whereas Jimin is seen crying from his left eye which means sadness. It's so minuscule in the grand scheme of things but really, no detail should be missed when it comes to BigHit :). He's the one who had the wings in Black Swan and you can see it reflected back again after years. Hopefully one day you guys will watch the music video in the sequence of the BTS storyline. There you can see the obvious connections between the music videos (don't do it like me though I stayed up until 7am watching it and thinking J-Hopes mother truly abandoned him😅)
I’m sorry you guys have to go through that.. keep in mind that we appreciate all that you do and say! I love that you keep an open mind.
Just do whatever you say or want as long as you know it in yourself that you’re being respectful.
Like what RM said, don’t mind the hate. Even if it’s from the ARMY. They’re not all right anyway ❤️
I'd like to say that I think the two of you have ALWAYS been honest about and clear with your interpretations and intentions when it comes to BTS content. I appreciate how respectful you have been to both BTS and ARMY throughout your reactions from the VERY beginning. I've never watched one of your reactions and felt as though you belittled ARMY or knocked BTS' work. I especially appreciate that you share honest and authentic interpretations without sugar coating them while still maintaining positive intent. I could go on and on but I love your content and I look forward to seeing your continued discovery of the beautiful and diverse body of work that BTS has poured their blood, sweat, and tears (I had to) into creating for us. Thanks 💜
I love how you dive deep into the songs ! BTS' videos need to be watched multiple times, especially this one, it's impossible to get everything by only watching it once ^^
RM talked about the meaning of this song, saying that it's about the passage between childhood and adulthood.
My interpretation of this is that, When we're children, we're innocent and protected by our environment. We learn from adults around us that we should only surround ourselves with "good" things. However when we become young adults and see the "real" world, we quickly realize that actually there is both the "good" and "evil", and the world can't existe without either of them. That's why here Jin kissed "Abraxas" the status representing the god of "light" and "darkness", meaning he now acknowledges both sides.
If you listen to the Wings album, you will see that the boys are exploring both their "dark" side, something they started in the previous era HYYH (the most beautiful moment in life) and You never walk alone.
Ultimately, this will lead to the love yourself series and the Map of the soul series. It's a journey where they discover their "real" selves.
There is an explanation video by Bookish Theories I think, that explains all the details from Demian, the paintings etc
PS: I apologize for any mistakes, since English is not my first language 😅
68 yo ARMY here. Keep doing what you're doing, and react the way you have been - whatever was intended by BTS in constructing the videos's references, the video is a work of art and subject to multiple readings/interpretations - you don't have to know what was intended to appreciate it and think about it. And you bring your own history/beliefs/perspectives to your interpretation, which is what makes your reactions so good - really like how thorough and thoughtful you are.
Very sorry to hear you've been subject to negativity from (supposed) ARMYs. People who are defensive/critical of your approach are not true ARMYs (that's not the BTS way of respecting others), and thankfully, they're a small minority in the fandom. As you said so clearly, this is just your exploration of what this might mean. This video does have some really disturbing as well as beautiful imagery which is thought provoking, regardless of what BTS intended by it. Liked your references to the artwork/quotes/analogies.
Keep up the good work!
The statue most likely represents Abraxus from the book Demian - not Lucifer. If you notice it is an androgynous figure showing both male and female characteristics. It refers to a specific part in the book.
I honestly love the occational family interruption in the middle of a video. Also love your set up and how it's not isolated.
Oh my... This song is the song that armys never be able to get over 🥴😵🤯
No matter how much i read about BTS theories...i think always there is something that I don't know and this is so cool
Another awesome reaction video. This is my all time favourite song of theirs and it is so pleasing to see that you understand just how much work and effort BTS put into their songs and video's. You don't just take them on face value, you research the meanings behind the concepts and are always respectful of the artistry involved. Ignore the haters, there will always be those who try to be negative, just keep doing what you are doing and show us all awesome content :)
I love your videos and your honest opinions. Thank you for coming back to BTS after the last one. 💜
I was looking forward to another BTS reaction. Please don't let negative comments affect you guys, the fact that you give honest opinions is what makes your video stand out so much from other channels. Btw the cat is so cute, it made my day :)
this song was what made me an army in 2016 kekeke,, I only wanted to read the comments and people were talking about a lore and bAM I got into the bts rabbit hole hahaha
this will forever be my fav bts song as it was my first and what made me an army and the whole aesthetic is just my fav oof I was so happy seeing this song live
excited to watch more of your vids tomorrow,, this is gonna be entertaining ALSO THE CAT AHHHH SO CUTE THANK U FOR SHOWING YS UR CAT
Hey I recommend getting into the rest of the members' solo releases since you have only seen two of suga's and one of rm's so far 😊 My first rec is Taehyng's Singularity!
I would agree. We would be interesting in diving into their solo careers
@@BeardsBoozeBandsBS Yes, definitely! I'm sure you'd learn a lot more about them all that way
A big yes to Singularity
And stigma … I am still diving and just randomly stumble upon. Solo and group BTS songs I never knew I have found sound SoundCloud too be good with the free samples and such of BTS lots of variety also 🤩💜💜
@@BeardsBoozeBandsBS yes, the Epiphany and Euphoria are both must watch
Discussion and even disagreement are healthy parts of the fandom, hate is not.
I had some issues with the YtC reaction, but would never be disrespectful or hateful in the expression of that.
I enjoyed this reaction very much. Thank you for your thoughtfulness. There really is a lot to unpack from this song/mv.
Guys I think you should start watching (and react) to RUN BTS (the variety show). I know I’d love to see that!
We're actually looking into that. Stay tuned. - Kyle
I really enjoy watching your reactions. Please don’t let those negative comments stop you from voicing your opinions. I look forward to your next reaction.
BookishTheories has a great theory vid about this song (and many other songs), worth watching if you're interested.
Thank you for your BTS reactions, I enjoy hearing you talk about the songs and mvs. 💜
I hope they check out Bookish Theories, it will really help them understand the inspo for the MV..
Great reaction guys. I like it that you do research at the same time. I think it just adds more depth and value to the reaction. Keep it up!
Dont even waste your time on the haters in the world. Music and art are to be interpreted by the individual because we all have different life choices and experiences. We also like and hate different things.
I love your reactions! I do recommend adding the track, intro: boy meets evil onto your track list. It is a solo song by j-hope with a music video attached to it
Ignore the haters, they are not true Army’s! You guys are doing a great job, please don’t let those haters keep you from reacting to BTS. Real ARMYS appreciate what you’re doing and will keep supporting you 💜💜💜
I watched your Yet to Come video and enjoyed your insights. You made smart and reasonable assumptions based on your experiences with other bands. The thing is that BTS and Army have a very special relationship. I have a dozen or so anecdotes on how they have been brutally honest with their fans (even against the company rules). For example Suga once couldn't perform due to an anxiety attack. The company never explained but he gave hints and mentioned it in one of the songs he wrote. So we believe them when they say this is just a break and they will come back. This is a unique situation and you were obviously entitled to your opinion and viewpoint.
Great song, Insane Video and as always, wonderful reaction guys. Sorry for any backlash you guys received on the last video. Have been watching your BTS journey since the beginning, and you are 2 of the most insightful and respectful reactors I follow. Please don't let those "fans" spoil your enjoyment of BTS & your journey, because it has been so much fun and educational to watch. I love both of your backgrounds and the discussions you have regarding what you see/hear. You are always well thought out, and funny and I just love the chemistry you have. I would love to have dinner with you guys and just watch your interaction/conversations! the amount of BTS content is vast - and you will have no shortage of things to explore.Getting into some of their solo stuff is a great idea - especially as they are moving in that direction. THere is even a clip circulating on Twitter showing RM saying they were going to do solo stuff during an interview for the album BE. And I also suggest you mix in more live stuff as well as the MV's - they are so much better live and you can see and feel their emotion, interactions, plus they usually remix beat for live. Also check out their dance practices if you want to see more robust choreo - or you can leave that part to Lindsey ;)
RM - Change (with Wale), anything off Mono, DO You
Suga/AgustD - The Last (for powerful lyrics), AgustD - self titled
Jin - Epiphany, Awake, Moon
J-Hope - Hope World, Boy Meets Evil (insane choreo), Daydream
Jimin - Serendipity, Filter (live)
V - SIngularity, Stigma (to see his vocal range - live), Winter Bear
JK - Euphoria, Begin or one of his many covers (he's covered Puth's we dont talk, and Harry Styles Falling)
ALso recommend doing Rap line Ddaeng, Ugh, Tear, you havent seen the Cyphers yet (live medley is a MUST WATCH) - and you should consider watching RM's Persona>Suga SHadow>J-Hope Ego as they hit on those Jungian theories. We're trying to prime you to get into the award shows because the 2019 MMA's is by far the most amazingly epic stage I have seen anywhere by anyone. If i had a time machine I would go back and be a member of the audience for this. As always ~ You Nice keep going!
Do not be afraid lol. Everyone won't like it, but you're always respectful. That's all most folks want!
Nice reaction & commentary. I was also distracted by the dancing behind you guys, heh.
You guys are not the only reactors that got attacked. I saw a lot of hurtful comments on others too. Hope you guys are feeling better. I’m enjoying your channel so far. Take care.
Really like your honest and open reactions. I did not realize you had received some negative comments last week. Very sorry about that.
WRT this video, I understand the statue is that of "Abraxas" (who is supposed to both a god and demon, hence only wings are black) and not that of "Lucifer" . But my knowledge is limited, there are explanation videos that can better explain this video better.
You don't have to apologize to anyone for expressing your opinion...I just started watching your videos and I really enjoy them so much! As you are new to BTS era and stuff people have to accept and respect that and give you some time. I know that there are a lot of toxic fans in every fandom but just don't let those kind of hate comments affect you guys. You're doing an amazing job, keep going and fighting!💜💜💜(You being real and honest is what makes your videos unique)
Enjoyed your review & analysis of Blood Sweat & Tears! I really think this song & video are a true masterpiece. The time it must have taken to put all of the visual references together is commendable. Kudos not only to BTS but the entire staff, crew, and production team for a brilliant job! 💜
Would like to recommend Halsey and Suga’s song Interlude. Just as something to listen to because you said you wanted more Halsey.
That is true. Ill add that to our list.
About Mary:
Considering their age, I think the song is about knowledge, struggles and growing up tearing down your innocence. So them kissing Lucifer (temptation, knowledge) is them pushing beyond established boundaries in search of themselves and their ambitions, and when that shatters their innocence and potentially their purity as artists, Mary, the mother figure, breaks, as they are no longer kids, but corrupted adults whose dreams have turned into ambition and are close to crossing onto greed. That is my read anyway!
I think this is supported by other songs by them. Suga’s solo work in particular grapples hard with greed vs healthy aspiration and creative impulse, and RM talks a lot about knowing himself and how he struggles to do that, a fight for authenticity towards himself and others. Something Suga also reflects by using multiple voices in his songs. Since the rapline have the most creative input, especially early on, imo my interpretation fits themes the group has covered both in their group music and their solo careers.
I hope that makes sense!
You guys have become one (or should I say two) of my few favourite reactors. I really admire you making efforts to learn about the song before the reaction video is released. Your open mindedness and respect for our boys are truly appreciated. I'm sorry about the negative comments that you received. Please continue your journey down the BTS rabbit hole. Borahae!
Just to let you know, Jin is the main character in BU, he tries to save other members.
I’m a 5 year old army, yet I still don’t understand the BU fully🤓
Great job guys, love the fact you are into BTS
Thank you for your lovely reactions, I frequently end up learning new things with you that I might not have thought of on my own, so I I really appreciate the effort you put into each one. Since you have enough reactions on your list, I'll just wish you good luck on your journey! Take care and borahae 💜
Loss of innocence.
Thank you for reacting.
the girl dancing around the corner😆💜💜
Yall need to listen to the whole Wings album and watch the Wings short stories that go with the songs. I love that you research the videos! 😍
The wife, daughter, and I can’t wait to go see J-Hope at Lollapalooza. First ever for a South Korean artist to headline Lollapalooza
Thank you guys for your effort. Love your insights. Pls keep on doing this. Always love hearing other peoples thoughts on these mvs and orher vids
At it's basics, BS&T is telling the story, that in order to become a full human, you must recognise that there is both good and bad in this world and readily embrace that the world is not just roses and sunshine as often your innocent childhood will lead you to believe. To understand what it means to be truly human and to grow as a person and spread your wings, you can only have true flight if you recognise that even yourself, you have both good and bad within you, that you will wrestle with this a lot as you go through adolescence and twenties but will eventually settle on what you are comfortable with but the strict abstinence in one domain will never let you truly realise yourself as it denies the fundamentals of human existence. Kissing lucifer is just symbolism that we must accept both our bad sides and good sides to understand ourselves as a whole. This is why Jin cracks in the mirror in the final scene, he has now shed his one sided innocent self and has become a fully realised human. In our adolescence and young adulthood, we struggle a lot to find ourselves, who we are, people telling us we are wrong or bad, praising what society sees as good. The whole wings album and short films and live performances is amazing and beautiful storytelling. Excited to see you guys react. The best explanation video out there for BS&T out there is the following th-cam.com/video/5tlgAUE6yjg/w-d-xo.html
My thoughts. I've been into this BTS rabbit hole since 2020. And as much as I love seeing reaction videos from everyone who appreciates BTS, I know (and we all know) some are just doing it to get views thus the fake reactions or over acting). So upon seeing your transition from "I have no idea who they are" to analyzing their videos, its not what everybody wants to hear but this is the content we need. Please don't hold back from your comments or comparisons. There's a thin line separating real fans from obsessed worshipers, many are overstepping the boundaries. And honestly I haven't heard a bad comment from you guys just constructive criticism. You guys are awesome!
The black winged statue is Abraxos. And the cracking and destruction of Mary's, and then Jin's, faces has to do with the destruction of the light side of a person once they've succumbed to temptation/acquired knowledge/question their place in the world of light vs. the world of darkness. The old self cracks and crumbles away so that their new self can be born.
I‘m sorry you had to experience this side of the fandom! I just found out about you two and I absolutely LOVE your reactions to BTS. And I love how honest you are. Some people just can‘t accept other opinions. Thank you for sticking around anyway. Lots of love💜
I love your interpretation of the video. When I first saw this without context or further reading/watching was Jin fell into temptation. I thought the video was him struggling between good and evil? When he kissed the stature, he destroyed his purity and that's why everything shattered/cried.
I was like what is going on behind Kyle?? Then the cat became caught up in it as well. 😂
I am not sure if anyone mentioned it already but yet to come MV was full of references from their past MVs. They did it since the song was for the anthology album so through yet to come they brought back things from past MVs.
It has often been my opinion that people who leave hateful/angry comments are miserable creatures that find joy in making others miserable as well, and I'm sorry they decided to dump on you. You guys are entitled to your opinions just like everybody else and nobody has any right to tell you that you are not. They are more than welcome to leave and not come back. I think you guys are awesome, so keep doing what you're doing! Love the cameo appearance in the background LOL! Something I would have done (probably did do) to my dad when I was that age.
I love this video. The explanation video that I watched helped with a few things, but I think that coming from a religious background, and art appreciation and other humanities classes in college, I found that this video didn't have me confused and scratching my head, as with other people that I've seen react to it. I will say I may have paid more attention in class if THIS was used in the lesson plan LOL! Love you guys!!
That whole album, Wings, is a revelation. I really recommend Boy Meets Evil by J-HOPE from it as well. It explores same topic of temptation and growing up, and it feels darker. Also, if you have time, watch 2016 MMA or MAMA award show performance (I don't quite remember which one) where they are doing a few of the songs from Wings live. It's phenomenal. I can only apologise for harsh and rude comments which came your way. In a fandom that big you'll always find zealots. All the best 💜💜💜💜💜
Second comment, but I want to add how impressed I am of your knowledge of the many different hidden eggs in the video. It was nice to hear a new point of view of explanation 💜🌈
I did wanna mention is the statue is Abraxas actually. I watched the meaning of yet to come and that is the statue of Abraxas I did wanna help yall out. It's the one Jin kissed.
I love this song
ngl got a little scared for a second there when i saw an arm peak out from behind y'all xD
There is an excellent explanation video for this music video by Don’t Worry I’m Not Afraid that I think you guys would get into. I’ve watched all your BTS reaction videos and I feel like you guys give respectful reactions. I appreciate how real you guys are.