Hahaha sorry Omar! More favourites to come too.... 😬 luckily it's one of the healthier addictions. When boardgame groups are back what is the first multiplayer game you will play?? I know you've been banking them!
@@ThinkerThemer gosh, I don't even know. I've amassed such a pile of unplayed games with more coming, it's so tough.. Right now, I would say Beyond the Sun is one I want to play so much, and since it has no solo mode, it's sitting there, mocking me 🤣
Thanks for this awesome deep dive - it missed the Mark the first time I played, but You’ve got me excited to play it again and give it another look! Great work
Hi BJ thank you for watching! I think it can feel a bit clunky on the first play or with multiple new players... once everyone knows the game it can move really quickly and be tightly competitive. Thanks for the lovely feedback 💕
@@ThinkerThemer At first I was a little overwhelmed with all the numbers on the board, but I felt more at ease with the explanation. I thought the river mechanic was very interesting where you can be the "rabbit" of the game and jump ahead but sometimes it pays to be the "turtle" and be slow and steady. I also like the twist on making your player object known to others, most games give you a secret objective (which I enjoy) but it is fun to see things done differently.
Yes the numbers are really just the cost to build... but the board is certainly quite busy until you get familiar with the iconography. This game has both revealed objectives and secret objectives which is a nice combo I think. But absolutely the best mechanic is the one you mention... that constant tension of jumping ahead or doing more things... Thanks again for watching 🥰
Hey there! Impromptu joke got you a subscription! Found this via BGG notification. I really lime how you take turns & the attention to 2p vs 4p scaling. I value both views... I think mechanics for strategy but verbalize theme for table talk. (I tend to make off hand comments about "we are doing this.") Cool channel!
Hey KC! Thanks for the sub and for taking the time to comment with your feedback. That's really lovely to hear. I'll also have to let Maggie know that her jokes are the building blocks of our subscriber base 😎 glad to have you here! Look forward to chatting all things games with you 😊
Yay welcome back to Melbourne, glad you made it back safely! Getting to sleep in your own bed again must've been super comforting. Egizia looks cool, I like to think I am fairly well versed in BG titles but you guys consistently showcase games I've never heard of! I've been playing Viscounts of the West Kingdom this year, and it does suffer a little from demotivating people when someone is clearly ahead and uncatchable, even though all scoring is endgame you can usually get a sense of whether it is close or not. So I guess I am pro-secret-objectives too!
Ooo we are yet to play Viscounts but that does sound like something that would annoy Maggie. Unless she happens to be very good at it 😆 it is so nice to be back home in VIC. Your own bed, your own routine.... not to mention the coffee... Have a wonderful extra day off tomorrow! ☺
I'll have to pass that on to Maggie... but maybe I won't because that will probably just encourage more bad puns 🤣🤣🤣 but jokes aside thanks so much for the lovely feedback. It means a lot that you would watch even if the game was not of interest! 😊
Thanks girls, another great video. I never heard of that game and thanks for bringing it to my attention. Must feel good to be back home. Enjoy and keep pumping those great reviews.
Soo nice to be back home and back into "routine" (as normal as it can be in 2021!) Thanks for watching Pierre and hope you are having a wonderful game filled weekend ☺
Excellent review! I remember seeing this one on kickstarter, but I passed on it. I think I saw a couple (p)reviews where the game could be a bit mean (maybe with the irrigation rings?). Maybe I'll be able to give it a try at a game meetup some time in the future :)
With four players, it can be very tight and a bit mean, more in competition for the best spots and cards, but occasionally with the crop rings as well. That said, my experience is with the original version.
Thank you Luke! As Terrence mentions it is mostly "mean" in you losing the opportunity to go to a space but the irrigation/crop ring is the most directly mean aspect. However it does feel like it isn't worth it to try to attack other players in that way and with a low conflict group I suspect it wouldn't even be used.
@@ThinkerThemer Sounds good! I have two primary gaming groups, and one tends to be "nicer" than the other. Hopefully I'll be able to meet with my game groups in the not too distant future - maybe by autumn here in California if things go well with vaccinations!
@@ThinkerThemer You have helped me to take games off and put on my wishlist so, Thank you. I was going to ask if you two were going to review Viticulture?
We will definitely do viticulture in 2021 but we are thinking about doing it when / if Jamey drops the new expansion (?) for the game this year. Then we can review the base and ALL of the extras for it. 👌
At the end there I thought Maggie said 'This game is very sphynxy instead of thinky'.... And I'm with Maggie, I don't mind losing if it's a close game, but watching my point marker slip farther and farther behind is unmotivating. I LOVE hidden points in a game. I refuse to play games like Monopoly or Risk where the whole point to wipe people out of a game. Nice to see you two back in front of the camera and glad you are safely home.
HAHA that would've been funnier than her Nile joke Stitch. 🤣 Definitely agree on your point about games with player elimination - I think Maggie would just walk out of the house and never come back if we played a game like that now. Thanks for watching and your support as always ☺
Another solid review. So, I've only played the original on Yucata, but it looks like they've replaced the Tombs and Temple with the Columns and Statues? I've found that the Temple tends to get ignored, as it's too hard to fill in, without the ongoing bonus that you get from the Pyramid. It also looks like they moved the Sphoenix building spot to the end of the track, so you don't have to give up any placement opportunities to build there and get cards. Not sure how I feel about that. Ont the theme/artwork side, I like the colors. I think people have this idea of Egypt being drab mostly because we're seeing the art through a 3,000-year lens.
Yes that's right! Your temple issues must be the reason they changed that. I like having the Sphinx cards at the end because you really have to think about how much you want them when trading off stone/power to build the monuments earlier. And you are quite right that we are used to looking at Egyptian artefacts once the colour has drained... maybe everyone can leave their boards out in the sun for a few centuries 😎 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment Terrence. 😊
@@ThinkerThemer Now that I think about it, the tombs were also a bit wonky; if there was an expensive one at the head of the line, no one can afford to build it until halfway through the game, and it locks the whole line. Interested to try the new version whenever I get to play games in person again. Another thing. Were you in QLD early enough to catch that crazy sea foam? That had to be the most Aussie thing ever: “Hey, check out that cool foam, but don’t play in it, because it’s full of poisonous sea snakes.”
My friend, Luke, got a copy of this just before the pandemic hit NY full force in early 2020. As a result, it hasn't gotten to the table yet. Hopefully, we'll return to something close to normalcy sometime in 2021 and we can meet at his place to play this one! And while the Nile joke was funny, I laughed hardest at the Phoenix/Sphinx mix-up, with Amy saying, "I don't know... theme." :-) As for the vivid vs. muted color question, isn't it likely that the muted colors people associate with Ancient Egypt today were more vivid in the past and faded over time? I'm with you two. As long as it's not painfully garish, brighter is better than bland.
So true Steve about the muted colours! Maybe those people can leave the board out in the sun for a few centuries 😅 Look forward to when you all have your boardgaming groups back together and you can try this one with Luke. Thanks for watching and your support as always 💕
Amazing review. You both look a bit tanned or maybe lighting was the issue or maybe my phone’s brightness 🙈. Always good to be home. You guys gotta stop making me buy more games , I pledge that I’m going to play all games in my collection atleast once and then you guys come out with amazing reviews and I keep saying myself, just one more🙄 I officially have a problem 😜
Haha it is summer here and we got very tanned over the break. Being South American Maggie tans so easily - wait until you see her in the next video ... it is getting harder and harder to balance our lighting 😅 this year I have not pledged to buy less (never going to happen) but I have pledged to sell more! Thanks for watching Kriti as always and hope you are doing well 💕
Thanks for the feedback Billy, glad you liked this one. Probably would not recommend this one for the best 2 player experience. Plenty of others though! 😊
Oh, I think you will like Paris cos it has that track mechanic where you advance along the track to get benefits but you can’t go back. Really like Paris but I have only played two games and with 4 players both times. I can also totally relate with how Maggie feels when losing behind without a catch-up mechanic.
Oh really Melvin? I had passed on Paris originally as was a bit worried it was a bit light for us but I do like the sound of that mechanic. It looks so beautiful on the table from what I've seen! Maybe we will have to check it out 🤔 thanks for watching!
It really does mean a lot to us when people watch and then take the time to add their thoughts or share something interesting with us - like your Paris recommendation! Replying is not a chore at all I really enjoy it and getting to know everyone. Thanks for saying so though ☺
So I managed to find a KS exclusive copy of this game. Haven’t played it yet but was watching your video again to kinda give it a try. It just struck me, the MOST competitive game that I have played is BARRAGE. Oh boy, me and my husband and the other couple that plays with us can get divorced 😜😜😜. That’s such a tight game I can’t begin to tell you. Have you both played it? If not, you must try it, such cool mechanics . I’m sure you both will love it.
We do own it and like it! BUT because of the hard lockdown here we only have played it at two. We need to get it out with our competitive friends .. I know they will love it and we might not be talking by the end hahaha glad you found Egizia and hope you can use it to level your group up a bit (little by little!!!) 😊
BTW, have you ever played Francis Drake? I have not, but I understand that it uses a similar one-way placement mechanism. Shipyard is another one you might find interesting. Sort of the ultimate (over-)use of rondels.
I have been recommended Shipyard in the past but not Francis Drake (looking it up now!) Have you played / do you like Shipyard? Thanks for the recommendations Terrence! ☺
@@ThinkerThemer I've played Shipyard, but it's been a long time. My recollection is that it was a little clunky, but interesting. Definitely a point salad kind of game, where you're building ships section by section, outfitting them with gear, hiring staff, and navigating a channel, each action having it's own rewards and endgame scoring. If you're into rondels, though, it's worth checking out, just for interest's sake. It's kind of like Colonia is for worker placement games (but that's another story). The main action selection mechanism is somewhat similar to Glen More, except the tiles represent the different actions you can take. Some of these then lead you to manipulate smaller rondels to specify the details of your action. I remember not liking the navigation part, as it's kind of this awkward tile-laying sub-game that didn't seem to fit with the rest of it. One interesting bit, however, is the endgame goals. If I remember correctly, you start with a handful of options, but then you have to abandon one (or two?) of them after each round, until you're left with just one (or two?) at the end of the game. They can be worth quite a bit, so choose wisely!
Sounds interesting!! Maybe if I can find someone who owns it and can teach me id give it a go. We have such a backlog as it is and the year has only just begun 😬 actually glen more 2, even with the rondel which i usually love... kind of fell flat for us. I think about it a lot trying to work out why... I always want to like everything even though I know it is impossible!! Have a lovely weekend!
Oh no!! Well we have resolved to do a few more favourites in the next month.... viewer beware! Lol hope you enjoy the game Steve and thanks for watching ☺
"Did you plan that joke?" I laughed at the "organically bad joke", great video and another interesting game. Thanks guys.
Hahahaha Well I'm glad someone's laughing Jonathan 🙃 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment with the lovely feedback 😊
So glad you're both back home! Stop making me want games. I don't need more of a good problem! 😉
Hahaha sorry Omar! More favourites to come too.... 😬 luckily it's one of the healthier addictions. When boardgame groups are back what is the first multiplayer game you will play?? I know you've been banking them!
@@ThinkerThemer gosh, I don't even know. I've amassed such a pile of unplayed games with more coming, it's so tough.. Right now, I would say Beyond the Sun is one I want to play so much, and since it has no solo mode, it's sitting there, mocking me 🤣
Thanks for this awesome deep dive - it missed the Mark the first time I played, but You’ve got me excited to play it again and give it another look! Great work
Hi BJ thank you for watching! I think it can feel a bit clunky on the first play or with multiple new players... once everyone knows the game it can move really quickly and be tightly competitive. Thanks for the lovely feedback 💕
Keep it up!!
Thank you!!! ☺
Thanks for the review. I enjoy your perspectives, taste, and banter. Added this one to my list of future buys 🙂
Thank you so much for taking the time to write this lovely words! It means a lot to us and glad you enjoyed this video ☺
I love the work you both do! I watch reviews on games I already own because I like to hear your insights on them
Thank you so much! What do you think of this game? ☺
@@ThinkerThemer At first I was a little overwhelmed with all the numbers on the board, but I felt more at ease with the explanation. I thought the river mechanic was very interesting where you can be the "rabbit" of the game and jump ahead but sometimes it pays to be the "turtle" and be slow and steady. I also like the twist on making your player object known to others, most games give you a secret objective (which I enjoy) but it is fun to see things done differently.
Yes the numbers are really just the cost to build... but the board is certainly quite busy until you get familiar with the iconography. This game has both revealed objectives and secret objectives which is a nice combo I think. But absolutely the best mechanic is the one you mention... that constant tension of jumping ahead or doing more things... Thanks again for watching 🥰
Thanks Maggie and Amy for another great review!
Thank you so much for taking the time to write this! ☺ Glad you liked it!
Hey there! Impromptu joke got you a subscription! Found this via BGG notification. I really lime how you take turns & the attention to 2p vs 4p scaling. I value both views... I think mechanics for strategy but verbalize theme for table talk. (I tend to make off hand comments about "we are doing this.") Cool channel!
Hey KC! Thanks for the sub and for taking the time to comment with your feedback. That's really lovely to hear. I'll also have to let Maggie know that her jokes are the building blocks of our subscriber base 😎 glad to have you here! Look forward to chatting all things games with you 😊
Yay welcome back to Melbourne, glad you made it back safely! Getting to sleep in your own bed again must've been super comforting. Egizia looks cool, I like to think I am fairly well versed in BG titles but you guys consistently showcase games I've never heard of! I've been playing Viscounts of the West Kingdom this year, and it does suffer a little from demotivating people when someone is clearly ahead and uncatchable, even though all scoring is endgame you can usually get a sense of whether it is close or not. So I guess I am pro-secret-objectives too!
Ooo we are yet to play Viscounts but that does sound like something that would annoy Maggie. Unless she happens to be very good at it 😆 it is so nice to be back home in VIC. Your own bed, your own routine.... not to mention the coffee...
Have a wonderful extra day off tomorrow! ☺
hah! The nile jokes were great :D Thanks for a great review! Looks like fun and something that I'll definitely have to keep an eye out for!
Hahah thank you Kevin...! I read this to Maggie and I fear it encouraged her lol. Thanks for watching and commenting 😊
Thank you for another entertaining and informative video
Thank you Sean! Glad you enjoyed it, we had fun making it.... favourites are so much nicer to film! 🥰
Haha the Nile jokes were on point! Seems like a game we will have to keep an eye out for. Thanks for your insights friends!
Hahaha shhh don't tell her that! Maybe a good one to grab once you're back to 3 or 4 players... bring. back. my. gaminggroup. 💕
Great review. Keep up the good work!
Thank you Donald! ☺
I wasn't interested in this game, but your two Nile jokes and the one about management kept me watching the video! You guys make the best reviews!
I'll have to pass that on to Maggie... but maybe I won't because that will probably just encourage more bad puns 🤣🤣🤣 but jokes aside thanks so much for the lovely feedback. It means a lot that you would watch even if the game was not of interest! 😊
@@ThinkerThemer hahah, I also enjoyed the review and it looks more interesting than it looks!
Thanks girls, another great video. I never heard of that game and thanks for bringing it to my attention.
Must feel good to be back home. Enjoy and keep pumping those great reviews.
Soo nice to be back home and back into "routine" (as normal as it can be in 2021!) Thanks for watching Pierre and hope you are having a wonderful game filled weekend ☺
Excellent review! I remember seeing this one on kickstarter, but I passed on it. I think I saw a couple (p)reviews where the game could be a bit mean (maybe with the irrigation rings?). Maybe I'll be able to give it a try at a game meetup some time in the future :)
With four players, it can be very tight and a bit mean, more in competition for the best spots and cards, but occasionally with the crop rings as well. That said, my experience is with the original version.
Thank you Luke! As Terrence mentions it is mostly "mean" in you losing the opportunity to go to a space but the irrigation/crop ring is the most directly mean aspect. However it does feel like it isn't worth it to try to attack other players in that way and with a low conflict group I suspect it wouldn't even be used.
@@terrencesoltz8943 Thanks for the info!
@@ThinkerThemer Sounds good! I have two primary gaming groups, and one tends to be "nicer" than the other. Hopefully I'll be able to meet with my game groups in the not too distant future - maybe by autumn here in California if things go well with vaccinations!
So Happy you guys are doing your Favorites! Love the jokes! Great Video, again!
It is SO NICE to do some favourites!! We plan to do some more this month. Thanks for all of your support as always Monica 💕
@@ThinkerThemer You have helped me to take games off and put on my wishlist so, Thank you. I was going to ask if you two were going to review Viticulture?
We will definitely do viticulture in 2021 but we are thinking about doing it when / if Jamey drops the new expansion (?) for the game this year. Then we can review the base and ALL of the extras for it. 👌
@@ThinkerThemer Oh Cool.
At the end there I thought Maggie said 'This game is very sphynxy instead of thinky'.... And I'm with Maggie, I don't mind losing if it's a close game, but watching my point marker slip farther and farther behind is unmotivating. I LOVE hidden points in a game. I refuse to play games like Monopoly or Risk where the whole point to wipe people out of a game.
Nice to see you two back in front of the camera and glad you are safely home.
HAHA that would've been funnier than her Nile joke Stitch. 🤣 Definitely agree on your point about games with player elimination - I think Maggie would just walk out of the house and never come back if we played a game like that now. Thanks for watching and your support as always ☺
Another solid review. So, I've only played the original on Yucata, but it looks like they've replaced the Tombs and Temple with the Columns and Statues? I've found that the Temple tends to get ignored, as it's too hard to fill in, without the ongoing bonus that you get from the Pyramid. It also looks like they moved the Sphoenix building spot to the end of the track, so you don't have to give up any placement opportunities to build there and get cards. Not sure how I feel about that.
Ont the theme/artwork side, I like the colors. I think people have this idea of Egypt being drab mostly because we're seeing the art through a 3,000-year lens.
Yes that's right! Your temple issues must be the reason they changed that. I like having the Sphinx cards at the end because you really have to think about how much you want them when trading off stone/power to build the monuments earlier. And you are quite right that we are used to looking at Egyptian artefacts once the colour has drained... maybe everyone can leave their boards out in the sun for a few centuries 😎 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment Terrence. 😊
@@ThinkerThemer Now that I think about it, the tombs were also a bit wonky; if there was an expensive one at the head of the line, no one can afford to build it until halfway through the game, and it locks the whole line. Interested to try the new version whenever I get to play games in person again.
Another thing. Were you in QLD early enough to catch that crazy sea foam? That had to be the most Aussie thing ever: “Hey, check out that cool foam, but don’t play in it, because it’s full of poisonous sea snakes.”
My friend, Luke, got a copy of this just before the pandemic hit NY full force in early 2020. As a result, it hasn't gotten to the table yet. Hopefully, we'll return to something close to normalcy sometime in 2021 and we can meet at his place to play this one! And while the Nile joke was funny, I laughed hardest at the Phoenix/Sphinx mix-up, with Amy saying, "I don't know... theme." :-) As for the vivid vs. muted color question, isn't it likely that the muted colors people associate with Ancient Egypt today were more vivid in the past and faded over time? I'm with you two. As long as it's not painfully garish, brighter is better than bland.
So true Steve about the muted colours! Maybe those people can leave the board out in the sun for a few centuries 😅 Look forward to when you all have your boardgaming groups back together and you can try this one with Luke. Thanks for watching and your support as always 💕
Amazing review. You both look a bit tanned or maybe lighting was the issue or maybe my phone’s brightness 🙈. Always good to be home.
You guys gotta stop making me buy more games , I pledge that I’m going to play all games in my collection atleast once and then you guys come out with amazing reviews and I keep saying myself, just one more🙄
I officially have a problem 😜
Haha it is summer here and we got very tanned over the break. Being South American Maggie tans so easily - wait until you see her in the next video ... it is getting harder and harder to balance our lighting 😅 this year I have not pledged to buy less (never going to happen) but I have pledged to sell more! Thanks for watching Kriti as always and hope you are doing well 💕
@@ThinkerThemer Hahhaa! I have pledged the same. So many games coming in FOMO is real. 😜
Thanks for the great review! This game looks & sounds great, but I usually play solo or 2-player, so I'm not sure it is a fit for us.
I'm in the same boat, Billy! Looks rad, though.
Thanks for the feedback Billy, glad you liked this one. Probably would not recommend this one for the best 2 player experience. Plenty of others though! 😊
Oh, I think you will like Paris cos it has that track mechanic where you advance along the track to get benefits but you can’t go back. Really like Paris but I have only played two games and with 4 players both times. I can also totally relate with how Maggie feels when losing behind without a catch-up mechanic.
Oh really Melvin? I had passed on Paris originally as was a bit worried it was a bit light for us but I do like the sound of that mechanic. It looks so beautiful on the table from what I've seen! Maybe we will have to check it out 🤔 thanks for watching!
@@ThinkerThemer I also wanna say thank you for taking the time to reply to our comments. Am sure we all appreciate it. :)
It really does mean a lot to us when people watch and then take the time to add their thoughts or share something interesting with us - like your Paris recommendation! Replying is not a chore at all I really enjoy it and getting to know everyone. Thanks for saying so though ☺
So I managed to find a KS exclusive copy of this game. Haven’t played it yet but was watching your video again to kinda give it a try. It just struck me, the MOST competitive game that I have played is BARRAGE. Oh boy, me and my husband and the other couple that plays with us can get divorced 😜😜😜. That’s such a tight game I can’t begin to tell you.
Have you both played it? If not, you must try it, such cool mechanics . I’m sure you both will love it.
We do own it and like it! BUT because of the hard lockdown here we only have played it at two. We need to get it out with our competitive friends .. I know they will love it and we might not be talking by the end hahaha glad you found Egizia and hope you can use it to level your group up a bit (little by little!!!) 😊
@@ThinkerThemer Egizia does seem that kinda game.
Barrage is a very competitive game and plays well at 4. It’ll be great to hear your thoughts.
I have heard a lot of possitive comments on Barrage, so it is worker placement, playing in 4 players is interesting? Will take cca 2 hours? Thank you.
BTW, have you ever played Francis Drake? I have not, but I understand that it uses a similar one-way placement mechanism. Shipyard is another one you might find interesting. Sort of the ultimate (over-)use of rondels.
I have been recommended Shipyard in the past but not Francis Drake (looking it up now!) Have you played / do you like Shipyard? Thanks for the recommendations Terrence! ☺
Oh interesting the designer Peter Hawes is Australian!
@@ThinkerThemer I've played Shipyard, but it's been a long time. My recollection is that it was a little clunky, but interesting. Definitely a point salad kind of game, where you're building ships section by section, outfitting them with gear, hiring staff, and navigating a channel, each action having it's own rewards and endgame scoring. If you're into rondels, though, it's worth checking out, just for interest's sake. It's kind of like Colonia is for worker placement games (but that's another story). The main action selection mechanism is somewhat similar to Glen More, except the tiles represent the different actions you can take. Some of these then lead you to manipulate smaller rondels to specify the details of your action. I remember not liking the navigation part, as it's kind of this awkward tile-laying sub-game that didn't seem to fit with the rest of it. One interesting bit, however, is the endgame goals. If I remember correctly, you start with a handful of options, but then you have to abandon one (or two?) of them after each round, until you're left with just one (or two?) at the end of the game. They can be worth quite a bit, so choose wisely!
Sounds interesting!! Maybe if I can find someone who owns it and can teach me id give it a go. We have such a backlog as it is and the year has only just begun 😬 actually glen more 2, even with the rondel which i usually love... kind of fell flat for us. I think about it a lot trying to work out why... I always want to like everything even though I know it is impossible!! Have a lovely weekend!
Just ordered the game#!*^%#. How about a little less enthusiasm next time:). Great review!
Oh no!! Well we have resolved to do a few more favourites in the next month.... viewer beware! Lol hope you enjoy the game Steve and thanks for watching ☺
Can you please mention if Egizia (and so its upgrade) is some "successor" of Stone age? Thank you!