Interview with Slavoj Zizek and Russell Sbriglia on Hegel
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- I talk with Slavoj Zizek and Russell Sbriglia about Hegel as a political theorist in relation to Marx. We debate the extent to which Hegel can offer a paradigm for challenging capitalism, as well as discuss the most effective interpretations of Hegel.
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Love all of this, poor Russell though, I think he only got 5 words in the whole time. The conversation was so excellent though and I am so glad I found Todd McGowan through watching Zizek lectures, because I think Todd's work is at least as good as Zizek's and, for me, more comprehensible.
I agree wholeheartedly, im currently working through "emancipation after hegel". I enjoy reading anything todd has written.
"with some minor digressions"
Ah, that sounds like the Slavoj we know and love.
Also, Todd McGowan, please do an episode on Melville with Russell Sbriglia!
damn, we get Slavoj and Zizek? you spoil us
Also, I completely agree that Hegel anticipates Quantum Mechanics. Todd probably couldn't recite from memory but there are some uncanny examples in Phenomenalogy of Spirit that sound similar to QM principals. For example, "Heisenberg's Microscope" and when he talks about the "standard" by which a subject compares his object of knowledge to the "real" thing. And how one dynamically alters it.
Hegel would have already grasped the possibility of relativity, just look in the phenomenology section on force and the understanding. How do they not mention this?
The slip of 'artisan' to 'partisan' is splendid
Zizek: "...these qualities."
Todd: "yes, thats right- no! And...yeah he is the big other and..."
Zizek: "....AND HERE! I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH OUR FRIEND..."
before i watch it, i must say i thought the title "interview with slavoj and zizek" was one of your jokes todd.
Oh, hell yeah!
around 25min I had to laugh at the idea of Totalitarianism with limits. a modest totalitarian
15:10 - Structure of Contingency
Fantastic conversation. Regarding the clitoris, there is a nice little essay by Stephen Jay Gould "Male Nipples and Clitoris Ripples," where he critiques Freud's misconception of feminine sexuality. After all, clitoris is a strange remainder of the phallus, anatomically speaking at least. A more critical psychoanalytic reading is necesssary.
Also, interesting that Žižek mentioned Hegel's conception of police. I'd say, it is precisely the status of the relation between police (and coorporations) as the culmination of civil society (both of which try negate the very negativity of free market) and the State is precisely the most crucial question if we want to understand the political in Hegel's work.
This was great! Thanks to all involved.
thank you for the talk. i'm looking forward to the 2nd part of this meeting
My guy!! I did not know Todd had a channel ^o^
This was good. Loved the Colombo reference & Slavoj's self-effacing humour at the end. Subbed etc.
What exactly is the criticism of Marx that both you and Zizek agree on? I'm not really sure I'm broadly understanding the issue you are both finding in Marx's work (perhaps it's too dense to put into the space of a youtube comment but hopefully you can point me to some of the literature which might adequately express your view).
from my understanding that he was a materialist in a too naive way.
Related to quantum physics, Todd and Slavoj made it clear that Hegel minded the gap.
27:10 “Way of life” understood as their fantasmatic reality
Very good debate. Can anyone say where exactly the Alenka Zupancic quote, referred to at 36:38, can be found?
Slavoj is a Big Rammstein fan a? :)
Todd i would love to hear your thoughts on Mao's 'on contradiction' in light of your work on Hegelian contradiction.
Good question. I think Mao basically discusses oppositions as contradictions and isn't really thinking about contradiction in Hegel's sense--that is, as the identity of identity and difference, or as the internal split within an entity. Despite Mao's explicit commitment to eternal contradiction, his project, as I see it, has nothing to do with Hegel's since they define contradiction so differently.
@@toddmcgowan8233 Thanks!! I hadnt thought of it like that, but now that you point it out that does make sense. It feels almost like Mao sometimes should be using the word 'antagonism' as opposed to contradiction, which is reminiscent of some of Zizek's stuff (but zizek is probably using antagonism in a more Hegelian sense to... i have no idea what Zizek is talking about tbh ahaha).
Really great!! Thanks!
There aren’t subtitules availables.
What's the intro music?
Hegel anticipated everything, after all he was Hegel.
Hegel even anticipated Hegel, Hegel was he all after
17:51 - Hegelian Power (18:31 IMP)
For Hegel, rejecting the possibility of contradiction is self-contradictory. If we fail to recognize the necessity of contradiction in the last instance, we lose thinking altogether.
why don't you talk about kamala harris?
does anyone now good german books getting into Hegel? Im having a hard time with less than nothing.
Dieter Henrich's Hegel Im Kontext is a phenomenal book
@@toddmcgowan8233 Danke :)
What? I've never seen that Columbo episode
Hegel as the guy to organize the mass immoralities, Marx as the state poster boy... well I can certainly see the latter and I'll admit the former does not give me much confidence in being able to stomach Hegel's political philosophy (and by virtue of the nature of philosophy, the rest of Hegelian thought). Also, not too sure what to make of the fact that Zizek can say such a thing, and still advocate Hegel with a straight face.
42?? years ago?? 1989??
Well they are philosophers not mathematicians after all 😂😂
Marx had exaggerated in a critique of Hegel, that he did not see the concrete man. On the contrary, Hegel it goodly see. The man, as the man, not as the citizen.
"Consciousness - Self Consciousness - History - World". What Slavoj owes to M. Kangrga? How did he it know. (Or remember, not must to speak)
That quantuum section in Hegel's Logic has way too many equations, someday someone will have to explain it XD
Also I can't believe you are all discussing Philosophy of Right after beating myself up for critiquing it after nom du ziz said to be a studier of the logic or the phenomenology a few months ago. Classic. You must not change it before my book comes out in november and remake it irrelevant again!
PAMU gang
Kelsen is Austrian, comrade
Cool
😍 😍 😍 😍 😍 😍
Love zizek but how anyone gets to grappling any Hegel trying to get some without having first taken care of Kant is a bit of a puzzle -maybe it all Marx’s fault?
Anywho “the transcendental approach of we cannot step outside of the symbolic order and so on ‘ -no outside buddy, forget about it. There none except in imagination and illusion. So forget even all thoughts thereof. But that’s not even Kants transcendental rather more like the same ol idealism of Berkeley, things are ideas, to be is to be perceived and so on. Transcendental means we do have some knowledge of things which is absolute.
44:37
So everything can be seen as anything else, what a blessing to humanity Hegel was, absolutely genius.
But reality doesn't exist on it's own, there are no shapes or meanning, not even now and here, it's all illusion our biological body create. Those biological limitations are solid foundations for imagination, give us something we can build and expand upon. Or let me put it in another words, i understand my perception of the universe is fake, but prefer this illusion over endless oblivion of real universe.
“...prefer this illusion...” but there is no question even of preference. We literally _cannot_ even imagine the “endless oblivion of real universe”. Those are just words that do not refer to anything intelligible to us. Even to imagine “endless oblivion of real universe” we are unavoidably inserting the subject, and the forms of the subject’s perceptions and mentation, into the picture.
@@CrazyLinguiniLegs I'm not so sure about that, if we talk about shape of everything, deep meditation is as good as it gets.
I prefer Macintyre's Hegelian solution to Sartre's conundrum - Zizek's solution to everything is hide and think
@peaceandlove69 concrete practice. "By a practice I am going to mean any coherent and complex form of socially established cooperative human activity through which goods internal to that form of activity are realized in the course of trying to achieve those standards of excellence which are appropriate to, and partially definitive of, that form of activity, with the result that human powers to achieve excellence, and human conceptions of the ends and goods involved, are systematically extended."
Yes stupidity goes in hand with totalitariam fascism... BUT stupidity can be faked. We havent seen yet what someone really smart and ill intended could do using those tactics
Godamn it Zizek, let Todd talk
MOISHE POSTONE!!! He "rehegelizes" marx
Ha
Hegel is so good because he uses the imagination. Maybe hegel today would sound something like korzybski, only cooler.
Ive never gotten zizek take against the taoist way of life. He wants to carry his cross, carry his chip on his shoulder like if its something to be proud of.
Boorish con man and spergic louse
U w0t m8
Listening to these two can teach us how the essence of contemporary hegelianism can be expressed in two words: "toxic masculinity"
Hahaha lmoa. You gotta chilled
Nuh uh
Like the same way listening to you can tell us how the essence of contemporary discourse can be expressed in two words: "lousy rhetoric"
The Left is the new Right, and the Right is the new Left.
wow such dialectical so contradiction. but fo real tho what do you mean? in what ways?