Kron Gracie: A look into Brazilian Jiu Jitsu

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  • @stuartsuterperformance
    @stuartsuterperformance 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Japanese jujitsu & judo practitioners were using the "guard" already years before including Maeda, Ito etc

  • @Ockerby
    @Ockerby 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for posting this video. I appreciate this video very much.

  • @robsmith4500
    @robsmith4500 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ju-jitsu is ancient and everything was in it, including using weight distribution and leverage concepts.
    The word itself means "gentle/minimal force/by any means necessary", so the concepts of tiring out your opponent or using their force against them have always been in it. Also breathing through the diaphragm (the "harra" as they called it) is as old as paper. All high level martial arts players (Japanese or Chinese arts) have to use breathing within techniques to go beyond black belt.
    Gracie adapted and refined these concepts and techniques very well.
    Hey I liked the cold water breathing thing - I love cold showers and the energised sense of overcoming it with breathing powerfully. Good advice Kron!

    • @prodigalbrock
      @prodigalbrock 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel you're taking it to literal. Of course leverage was there before because without leverage there is no armbar. On the same token though a 120 lb guy tried to use strength which against someone like Matt Hughes would be useless. So you have to perfect weight distribution. Japanese JJ and BJJ are two different animals. With the same backround and origin story.

    • @HispanicIsNotARace1
      @HispanicIsNotARace1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ***** what 120 pound guy? BJJ is Japanese JJ. Carlos Gracie and Luiz Franca learned it from Mitsuyo Maeda, and taught it to Helio Gracie and Oswaldo Fadda respectively. Gracie became a big name and they have been bullshitting their history ever since. Yeah Helio Gracie could never do a pull up:
      philosophycommons.typepad.com/.a/6a01901e204628970b01a511caa927970c-pi

  • @mkn.567
    @mkn.567 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    People, this kid's a beast, but he's still a kid. His training and his lineage have definitely given him some insight into views on physical and mental training. But he's still prone to the same bravado and egotism of youth.
    But some great words: "it only counts when you're tired." That is very true. When you reach exhaustion that is when you see what you're made of, what you can handle.

  • @Thensolomonsaid
    @Thensolomonsaid 11 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Funny how the Gracies talk about GJJ as its all technique despite weight advantage but when he was beaten soundly by Kimura it was because of the weight difference.

    • @cameronkingsberry4006
      @cameronkingsberry4006 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      beating someone bigger than you is one thing, beating someone 80 pounds bigger than you who is the world's top judoka is something else. also look up Kimura's rules for the fight

    • @TheThunderToad
      @TheThunderToad 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, we are all humans. He got beaten by a better jitsu person, it happens. Some ppl just have one superpower, and its to brake all youre skills in pices, even though you usually win 999 times out of 1000. Im not a blackbelt, but ive noticed that some bodytypes have it easier with me then others. I dont have any other excuses when i tap, then being weak in the areas they are strong. Im learning constantly, and i feel that is what jitsu is and represents for me. Oss

    • @Thensolomonsaid
      @Thensolomonsaid 11 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** Funny that you mentioned body types because i don't usually find really stocky strong people trouble but long limbed people i have trouble with????

    • @Thensolomonsaid
      @Thensolomonsaid 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Have i said something that was not true???

    • @Thensolomonsaid
      @Thensolomonsaid 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      E. Ras Well that made sense???????

  • @diegovski
    @diegovski 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "The guard didn't exist"?
    Has he ever heard of Kosen Judo?
    "Schools started holding their own judo competitions from 1914.[2] The rules of a Kosen judo match were mainly Dai Nippon Butokukai and Kodokan rules prior to 1925 changes. They allowed direct transition to newaza, enabling scenarios where one less skilled judoka could drag down the other into newaza (a tactic now known as pulling-guard)."
    Wikipedia.

  • @IamJacksColon4
    @IamJacksColon4 10 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    can u ever go through training at a gracie gym without hearing how great the gracies are?

    • @goat60804
      @goat60804 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      IamJacksColon4 I believe it's part of the curriculum.

    • @btownshreds1
      @btownshreds1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well they did invent it

    • @IamJacksColon4
      @IamJacksColon4 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Brandon Trahan eh no the japanese did. they did make it popular in brazil and then the world through the ufc.

    • @crashstitches79
      @crashstitches79 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Brandon Trahan Nope. Learn history, not sales tales.

    • @thaitran3985
      @thaitran3985 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +IamJacksColon4 actually your wrong. Helio Gracie created BJJ he waas the one who made the techniques as goo as they are to be of use in the American Army

  • @soufianebari8541
    @soufianebari8541 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Kron is a great martial artist

  • @JuanMiguelii
    @JuanMiguelii 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video

  • @yankumar5280
    @yankumar5280 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for sharing Masi Bardi

  • @666gggg666
    @666gggg666 10 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Once he started going on about Lucas Leite's bjj being "not right" I got that ever familiar smell... the smell of Gracie Bullshit.

  • @GG2Politi
    @GG2Politi 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "You beat me, then pff, you beat me, but I wanna see you beat me for the rest of my life." This guy has the right mindset.

  • @dozalb
    @dozalb 11 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    "The guard didnt exist"
    That's it, im out

  • @Nautilus1972
    @Nautilus1972 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To learn the breathing, look for chi gong breathing exercises.

  • @mosescasado1640
    @mosescasado1640 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was Greatt.. mentally and physicality.. i respect Kron...

  • @scnarb
    @scnarb 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have great respect for this man but Gracie Jiu Jitsu is not the only Jiu Jitsu. Even in Brazil Maeda taught other Brazilians and Japanese Judo and Jiu Jitsu do have guard games, not nearly as extensive of course, but those arts do have guard techniques, lots of them.

  • @Romios_
    @Romios_ 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice!.

  • @153gmoney
    @153gmoney 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I go to a school who the head professor is a black belt under Rickson Gracie....it is one of the best schools ive been to and these guys really stick to their guns and they work....its not living in a fantasy world. In the fighting world u habe to believe in yourself to be successful. Of all fundamentals ive been taught rickson gracie fundamentals are the most effective in jiu jitsu.

  • @joshdamon4049
    @joshdamon4049 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    the idea is all behind defending yourself and what jiu jitsu is is a way to defend yourself well against any opponent in the street, they train all their lives soo they are prepared for whatever comes all through their lives, and if you are fighting in competition then weight can play a roll especially if 1 man is 150lb black belt jiu jitsu and the other is 220 jiu jitsu black belt theyre both black belts in jiujitsu soo they both "know" what they are doing and the 70lb advantage is exactly that an advantage but that still doesnt mean the weight will win the fight your ability to capitalize on your opponents mistakes is what wins a fight

  • @JiuJitsuSweep
    @JiuJitsuSweep 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He said his dad invented the positions on weight distribution? Didn't Rolls Gracie travel the world learning wrestling and sambo and other styles and combining everything to form what we know today as modern BJJ make it happen? There is a video with Rolls and Rickson rolling where Rolls tools Rickson in a sparring match .

  • @BigJamesGraham
    @BigJamesGraham 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    LOL Helio didn't invent the guard. That's such bullshit. They had it in Judo and in catch wrestling it was bottom body scissors. Gracie certainly got really good at it however.

  • @martymarino2639
    @martymarino2639 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome look into a future legend's mindset

  • @Jamsax1
    @Jamsax1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see a talented young man trying to evolve in the shadow of a legend. “…only JJ there is…” that’s semantics not philosophy. He doesn’t actually believe it’s the only JJ that exists. C’mon peeps. Learn what you can from his insights. (..and lighten up) 🥋😌

  • @Dtmcthe1
    @Dtmcthe1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice. He reminds of Ralek in approach and philosophy towards jiu-jitsu.

  • @jonnie312ify
    @jonnie312ify 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If only morihei taught to the world the Jujutsu he learned from sokaku takeda we would see a lot more competition for Brazil. Same goes for Gigoro Kano & kosen judo techniques.

  • @Mokkari77
    @Mokkari77 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    CARLOS GRACIE DIDNT DO THE GUARD ?

  • @alexjones234
    @alexjones234 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    can anyone point me in the direction where i can learn proper diaphragmatic breathing? ive picked up a bad habit of chest breathing which i want to fix.
    Thanks.

  • @FR-ty5vn
    @FR-ty5vn ปีที่แล้ว

    Some lucky students attended that class…!!!! ❤

  • @veen050
    @veen050 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    LOL, the word Jiu Jitsu loosely translated means the gentle or compliant art. This is a Japanese word. Using leverage and your opponents force is one of the oldest themes through most Japanese styles (obviously excluding things like Karate ect). While I'm not taking anything away from the developments that occurred with the Gracie vein of Jiu Jitsu, because it has taken on a life on its own and changed and added many positive things. The fundamental principles of Jiu jitsu were not created by the Gracie's, not even close. The comparisons drawn between Jiu Jitsu and and "Japanese Jiu Jitsu" and that the Japanese versions are all about throwing and holding down are utter nonsense. This reasoning is looking at Judo and sport Judo I might add...which is not Japanese Jiu jitsu, it is Judo. What Gracie Jiu jitsu can definitely boast is that they have taken the application of "Ju"(gentle, compliant, yielding), to a whole new level on the ground, the same way Judo did with Japanese Jiu Jitsu's throws. Jiu Jitsu is a mother art at its origin and it has had many many specialists during its existence that focus on specific aspects and give rise to new strains of the style, Gracie Jiu Jitsu is no different...this doesnt mean its not good, it is, and it works, it just means that despite common belief the Gracie's did not come up with Jiu jitsu and its principles...it means that they adapted the same way Jigaro Kano did and hundreds of other Martial artists over time...That being said Jiu Jitsu does not belong to any one "inventor" (a term often used now days), over centuries warriors have forged what stands today, mostly through trial and error.

  • @mmadigest
    @mmadigest 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some deep stuff. Thanks.

  • @interestedparty7523
    @interestedparty7523 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    What he meant to say was that Helio reintroduced the world to fighting from a guard position. Nobody, not even the Gracie's will say that they invented the guard. Don't take it literally. What he meant was that nobody in contemporary society in Brazil or anywhere else utilized ground fighting in a Mixed fight atmosphere previous to Helio or the Gracies. Maybe Maeda did it in challenge matches or samurai in the battlefield, but most people won't claim to have learned about it from that or judo. Yes, Judo does it, but not the depth or philosophical dependence on ground fighting like the Gracies. They popularized it.

    • @crashstitches79
      @crashstitches79 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Abdul Shamah they popularized it, but they were just one of the branches of BJJ. Franca and Fadda's lineage still exists.

    • @interestedparty7523
      @interestedparty7523 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know the history of Luis Franca, GFT etc... it's just that Kron like other people, doesn't articulate his thoughts as well as others. If you ask him about the Fadda lineage, I doubt he'd deny their existence. What he means is, Gracie jiu jitsu is pretty much why 99% of all BJJer's are doing it to begin with, specifically, Royce's achievements. Same with his comments on guard work etc. Seriously, what percentage of all BJJer's trace lineage to Fadda? 3%?

  • @0713mas
    @0713mas 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    GJJ (philosophy) and keeping true with practical defense first in defining it's ideal approach. Efficient effective technique. I think Mr. Gracie miss spoke when he said Grand Master Helio "created the guard" he certainly developed it. It was a little used prewar judo technique. Weather they were aware or not only God knows.

  • @beeatoms
    @beeatoms 11 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    judo/jiu-jitsu was formulated on the principle of yawara. yawara has been around before the gracies. this principle is what kron is talking about. helio didn't invent any principles.

    • @salvadorernestofernandezku2930
      @salvadorernestofernandezku2930 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He didn't invent principles nor any technique.

    • @IamJacksColon4
      @IamJacksColon4 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      alexander salomon everyone knows bjj comes from judo

    • @ericr9701
      @ericr9701 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      IamJacksColon4 I was curious about something would it be better a black belt in Judo and then work your way to being a black belt in jiu jitsu? because judo youre taking your opponent to the ground but wouldn't you be like more elite if you were a black belt in judo and then get your opponent down and then submit your opponent?

    • @ericr9701
      @ericr9701 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      IamJacksColon4 So basically what im asking is if would be smarter to be a Black belt in Judo first

    • @IamJacksColon4
      @IamJacksColon4 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eric R define better? BJJ is far more effective as it doesnt have the traditional BS that comes with traditional MA including Judo

  • @scnarb
    @scnarb 11 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    He's a truly amazing martial artist but Kron is blatantly lying to his students. I mean, you can find that out easily, it's called fact checking.

    • @thefreshprince-t4m
      @thefreshprince-t4m ปีที่แล้ว

      Might just be getting invented mixed up with discovered

  • @rsb7613
    @rsb7613 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isso chama-se stomach vaacunm

  • @josephmoreau9615
    @josephmoreau9615 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tell me you don’t know the history of jujutsu without saying “I don’t know the history of jujutsu.”

  • @roelescamilla6022
    @roelescamilla6022 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As much as I respect Kron and the Gracie family he was wrong about what he said about Japanese Jiu Jitsu. I have a second degree black belt in Daito Ryu and the goal isn't to throw and hold anyone. He is confusing Judo with styles of Jiu Jitsu. Also there really is no such thing as Japanese Jiu Jitsu-- each system has a name.

    • @Aria132
      @Aria132 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Roel Escamilla lucky you, I practice aikido and always want to learn Daito Ryu.

    • @roelescamilla6022
      @roelescamilla6022 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aria132 I also practice Aikido. I love both arts. But training in Aikido came more out of necessity-- there are very few Diato Ryu schools left that still teach actual Daito Ryu

    • @roelescamilla6022
      @roelescamilla6022 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aria132 I also practice Aikido. I love both arts. But training in Aikido came more out of necessity-- there are very few Diato Ryu schools left that still teach actual Daito Ryu

  • @crashstitches79
    @crashstitches79 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LOL at "All jiu-jitsu is Gracie jiu-jitsu." That's pure sales bullshit. Maeda taught many students.

  • @cabalofdemons
    @cabalofdemons 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Gracie jiu jitsu is derived from Judo which is derived from Japanese Jiu-Jitsu. The guard is old, Helio didn't invent it. Heck you can go on youtube and watch videos from the 1900s of Japanese judokas doing triangle chokes. More Gracie propaganda crap.

  • @spenndoolie
    @spenndoolie 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    the irony when he talks about ego

  • @arolon1965
    @arolon1965 11 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Lots of respect for Kron and his abilities but he's drowning in Gracie Kool-aid. Oswaldo Fadda learned Jiu-Jitsu along side Carlos Gracie and beat Helio himself. Fadda was the only 9th Degree in BJJ not a Gracie. The Fadda lineage still survives thru Nova União, GFT & DeoJiu-Jitsu.
    If you have a thousand family members and a marketing machine to spread the word of GJJ, ignorant people will believe that Gracie Jiu-Jitsu is the only Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.

    • @ncrb73
      @ncrb73 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      What's amazing is how many people DON'T know this. Worse, how the influential Gracie family still perpetuates their version of history. Oswaldo Fadda's students walked into the Original Gracie Academy and basically dominated. Helio recognized the sound defeat of many of his students, one by one on that fateful day, but nobody brings it up. Fadda was a kind, egoless man. The fact that few know of him speaks volumes about his view or martial arts. Kind of like a true Mr. Miyagi. He focused on teaching the poor, the handicapped unlike the rich clientele and privileged class taught by Helio. I respect the Gracies, they are responsible for introducing the mainstream to BJJ and MMA. But still, ignoring Fadda is just plain wrong.

    • @retrovcr777
      @retrovcr777 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ncrb73 What makes you think the Gracies are rich, privileged, and ignore others for their contributions? You clearly don’t understand the point of Gracie Jiu Jitsu, and it’s philosophy. It’s not about winning, or losing. You literally described them as if they’re like these many other watered down Jiu Jitsu practitioners who involved with this martial art for all the wrong reasons, don’t teach it properly, and make the rest look bad. The Gracie’s are always humble, and speak well of others like Kron did in this video. They don’t train to win competitions, and that’s not what Jiu Jitsu is about, it’s about survival. They don’t care about how many times they get tapped out, how many tournaments they won, or matches they’ve lost. All that is for the sport aspect to simply apply their skills, and test what they’ve learned to challenge themselves for fun. In real life it’s life, or death nobody is fighting for points when your life is on the line it’s not a game. That’s the point of Gracie Jiu Jitsu, is to be a warrior, and survive at very least which is to win. People who win a match against someone in a competition might not even come close to beating that same person if it was a fight to the death. Sport Jiu Jitsu, and bjj for self defense are two completely different things. If not many ever heard of the Fadda family it’s for a reason, and they’re problaby ok with that. The people who know about them, or find out who they are will be the only ones who need to know. Too many people have the wrong mindset about Jiu Jitsu, and don’t truly understand what it’s all about. It was never intended to be a game, or sport, yet those who know it’s true origins will be able to differentiate between the two to be effective in both, but self defense will always be superior no matter what. It’s about preserving your life, and others if possible.

  • @DoktorFraz
    @DoktorFraz 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    RESPECT to all Martial Arts but Japanese Jiu-jitsu is the only real form of Jiu-jitsu. JJJ is the encyclopedia of Jiu-jitsu, when Helio went to learn JJJ they only gave him the first chapter of what they knew because Brazilians outnumbered there island. JJJ fights as an actual street fight, im not going to pull guard on a guy so his friend can kick me while im down.

  • @judorican973
    @judorican973 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Helio Invented the guard! I invented car in my dreams! Gracie 100% bs

  • @dobermann64
    @dobermann64 11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I rarely heard so much bullshit from a world class athlete. Thats a total lie propaganda. Helio didnt invent the guard lol. Japaneses judo koscens were already playing de la riva guard before helio and were doing 20min rounds on their back in open guards. Looks like helio invented everything when u hear kron. But no, before helio were other gracies who did a lot. Leverages are already part of the research of japanese jiu jitsu, they didnt try to use strentgh like he is saying. Anyway kron is far from being a good person and everyone in jiu jitsu knows that. Huge ego guy and bad mentality.

  • @slabzzz
    @slabzzz ปีที่แล้ว +7

    He lost me at Helio not being able to do one pull up. You don’t have to lie that bad to sell the art.

    • @yevgeniyzharinov7473
      @yevgeniyzharinov7473 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think he's not lying. Helio was weak and fragile.

    • @Seegie16
      @Seegie16 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yevgeniyzharinov7473 No Helio was a competitive swimmer and on a rowing team. He was lean and muscular. Go luck it up

    • @jakostein9943
      @jakostein9943 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He had a health condition. Plenty of skinny dudes can’t do a pull up

    • @yevgeniyzharinov7473
      @yevgeniyzharinov7473 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think I can do one either.

  • @cinkaid8710
    @cinkaid8710 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The guard pre-dates BJJ.

  • @WARFICTION1
    @WARFICTION1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    damn this is not the Diaphragm it is simple the abdomen muscles !!

    • @CrowdPleeza
      @CrowdPleeza 11 ปีที่แล้ว

      But it's called diaphragmatic breathing in yoga.

  • @blakechapman3938
    @blakechapman3938 ปีที่แล้ว

    Full gaurd

  • @MrFipat
    @MrFipat 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ossss......

  • @nasgaf
    @nasgaf 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    couldnt do one pull up...?

    • @dispatch1347
      @dispatch1347 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ... complete bullshit and propaganda.

    • @HispanicIsNotARace1
      @HispanicIsNotARace1 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      nasgaf yup bullshit. This is Helio Gracie in his younger years. You think he never could do one pull up
      gbarraschool.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/69/2013/10/Gracie-Barra-Downers-GroveCarlos-Lemos-Jr-Brazilian-Jiu-Jitsuself-defenseKids-Martial-Arts-Downers-GroveNaperville-HinsdaleOakbrookLa-Grange-JudoHelio-Gracie-.jpg

  • @ayo2259
    @ayo2259 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ice cream

  • @Y2JCG
    @Y2JCG 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vaaaaaaancity ;)

  • @jjwl
    @jjwl 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dug your video!

  • @rodrigotellom
    @rodrigotellom 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kron is a great martial artist, but I don't think he has read a book in his life.

  • @judorican973
    @judorican973 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pure bs Gracie!

  • @199lasonic
    @199lasonic 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    He looks like a bitch with his hair like that!

  • @199lasonic
    @199lasonic 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kron's head is inflated! He thinks he's God's gift to bjj. He blows! Rickson is God!

  • @fw4462
    @fw4462 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gracie Jiujitsu doensth exist