The Rise & Fall of the Religiously Unaffiliated | Part 2 of 2 | Episode 8

In episode 7, Dr. Jacobs looked at patterns of belief that appear amongst the “Nones” (i.e., those with no religious affiliation). Dr. Jacobs made a documentary on this demographic some years back, called Becoming Truly Human. In today’s episode, we look at the preludes to religious dissociation and what they tell us about why this demographic abandons religion. We also look at the growing phenomenon of this demographic returning to religion - and the why behind it.
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[@SolidOscelot]

I need the 4 phases, but I’m somewhat muddled on the last one. So we have: 1) Denominational switching, 2) Disassociation, 3) Politics, and 4 is…. Return?

[@germy22489]

Who was the guy you referenced at 40:20 (Paul fromm?) on return to Catholicism?

[@lkb2023]

Maybe a bit of a random question… Do you think Jordan Petersen could be a psyop? His rise to fame and evolution of content over the years is… interesting

[@pasquino0733]

Has the demise of a classical education (Homer, Virgil, Plato, Seneca etc) in the late 19th century effected what people do since, post Christianity?
And doesn’t the rise of fundamentalism in religion in the US COINCIDE with the demise of a classical education.
Personally, I’ve replaced Mathew, Mark, Luke and John with Anaximander, Heraclitus, Parmenides and Pythagoras.
If a classical education was still taught today, I think this philosophical and spiritual tradition, would STILL be the natural go to for those of a European or even West Asian cultural background.

[@GushyJohnGroblePatriot-ge4ge]

I think experiencing more than one religion or more than one sect of a religion in childhood is also a good predicter. If you're Catholic or Orthodox and you live among protestants (or the other way around), or more extremely, among Muslims and Buddhists, it makes the child more able to circumvent the emotional submission needed for true religious delusion. One of the great, demystifying experiences in my life was recognizing that people from other religions also felt the same illusory sense of love and profundity that I would feel in church, that it was just a natural, biological reaction that humans have in such a community/environment. Religion's great boons can be harvested without god's participation, I feel, however religion provides an easy and insubstantial answer on how to love mankind without actually doing it. It isn't without reason they call it the opium of the masses.

[@Nashmax]

Another great video Dr. Jacobs. I'm passing this on to friends.

[@3721ps]

Do you really think Jordan Peterson is a political figure? I would suggest Peterson is the balanced, analytical version on the psychological side as you, Dr Jacobs are on the philosophical side.....open to exploratory reasons for different beliefs, articulating the interconnected beliefs and ideas of the tradition yet willing to ground judgment in suggesting poor or ill-formed thinking regarding what went wrong or astray with certain forms of thinking. Peterson is anything but a political figure.

[@jmar237]

I wonder if nones coming from Mormonism or JWs are outliers. In my experience, they are extremely devout, pray every day in the home, their parents and clergy are rule followers (in general) and appear to be truly convicted about their beliefs. And yet Mormons and JWs have a very low retention rate, especially since the internet became ubiquitous. It seems like it doesn’t matter how people in these offshoot Christians religions raise their kids because eventually their kids go online and they see what was hidden from them, or they see how it doesn’t make sense when compared to true Christianity. I’d be interested in the theoretical episode you alluded to about the theological reasons nones leave.

[@wimonadu]

55:15 “A political figure, someone like a Jordan Peterson ends up becoming a starting point fro grounded thinking for how should I live, how should I think, how should I see the world?” This is EXACTLY why JBP is flailing right now. He encouraged a bunch of nones/atheists/hedonists to think/be better and they all found religion before he did. And now he is forced to talk way above his pay grade because that’s the audience he made. But he really doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

[@Day_Jyer]

Would the journey of the Nones be one of Apokatastasis?