@@davidlazarus67 Barbarism and civilization are opposites. But a country can still commit a crime against humanity after becoming civilized if its period of civilization has passed over into decadence.
@@AtlantaBill My point was that they never skipped the barbarism. Multiple wars post independence against smaller powers and for their own corporations benefits. Just saying you are a civilisation doesn’t necessarily make you one. The decadence really only applies to the elites.
@@davidlazarus67 There was an effort at building a civilization (with the victory over the Southern Confederacy), but it got sidetracked into colonialism. If a civilization stops progressing, it decays into something undesirable. Decadence has an historical meaning involving social decay.
I agree with you, but look at the Brits: Hanging on by their fingernails still trying to pretend they are important, when the only thing they do is participate in surveillance and war.
@@coldskilzs4127where is the uprising? Last ones that moved the US a baby step forward was during the 50s and 60s. Where are all those 2nd amendment, we have guns to keep our govt in line people? They don’t exist.
As immediate neighbours of the USA, I and my country are widely affected by what is happening there. Most of my fellow Canadians don't even know Dr. West exists. It made me sick during the entire USA election that Dr. West and Jill Stein were excluded from day-to-day media coverage, excluded from both Presidential debates. Most Americans, themselves, don't know about the ideas and values these two brilliant people had to offer. When all people hear are the self-serving, extreme capitalist shouting of two Parties, each controlled by the same greed-focused power mongers, there is no demicracy.
this is not a very accurate framing. the citizens never had control over governance - the governmental system in america was designed to compartmentalize power and control who gets to count as a citizen in the first place. not to get too far in the weeds here, but the very concept of a "citizen" inherently requires violent assertion of state power. all "we the people" have done is continually chase down this artifically imposed concept of "citizenry" and tried to keep expanding its definition so that these supposed "equal rights" are actually available to all people - something that is simply antithetical to a capitalist system, which is part of why it feels like no progress has been made in half a century.
the citizens never had control of government. The government is controlled by aristocratic elites from the start. The roman senate was brought in to shield in the emperors , not serve the people. Same is true here, the senators and presidents serve their bosses and their interest not the people. The people have some privileges, they decide whats a citizen. They want to make mexicans or people from south america citizens, they make them citizens the border is still open even after trump re-election and will continue, most of what trump says is more rhetoric and less actual action. Its a job being the president. You are in delusion if you believe the government works for you.
I feel we need a democratic nationalism, and a civil nationalism, to counter the faux nationalism we're being offered. Democratic to establish that no one's too good for the nation, and to establish representative government. Civil to establish the culture conducive to democratic organization. Civil Rights have been around a long time, now. They've shaped the organizational culture in military, government, education, etc. MLK Jr provided the roadmap to a better form of nationalism. It's just taken a long time for some people to listen. It's a shame we don't have a more robust defense of Civil Rights, and the civil culture it produces from this left wing. Also, to place equal responsibility on the right wing for their enforcement and interpretation. Civil Rights should be the right wing position, and civil nationalism the left wing. When push comes to shove, most of us prefer the culture of Civil Rights, despite the complaining and arguing.
He's actually a joke when it comes to politics since he supported Genocide Joe. But he's great a slinging BS, I'll give him that. Blah blah blah ... yeah ok. The guy is a poser who talks a big game but he's just good at telling stories. He's like those TV evangelists struting aroung on stage "Oh Jesus, I feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel your power yah!" what a joke.
Cornell west was acting like a fool and sabotaging the third party presidential runs. I haven't forgotten. What a disappointment. All these progressives show their face. Mr Glinda.
His critique would be more valuable, coming from within the Democrat Party. The far-Right has taken over control of the Republican Party, so why has the far/further-Left not tried to do the same thing within the Democrat Party?
@@siriuslyspeaking9720 It may be because the republican party was far more welcoming to the far right than the democrats who fear any challenge from the actual left
@@siriuslyspeaking9720because the republicans and democrats historically have silenced, imprisoned and killed far lefters. They are both right wing parties (I’d argue dems and reps are one party) FDR killed the only efforts to bring in a revolution
A truly great man of our times and an awesome intellect. Courageously correct for decades. A blessing for our country so rife with corruption and stupidity.
Yup. They worked hard to bring us this theocracy they planning. Nero 🔥 Rome, Hitler the Reichstag and this one will probably do the same. Nothing new under the sun.
Thank you, Katie Halper and Dr. West for letting us listen in on this interesting conversation! Needed a hope-infusion in these times where so much is surpressed while some keep ignoring the obvious truth!
We have rampant inflation, majority of citizens living paycheck to paycheck, increasing homelessness, stagnant wages, unchecked illegal immigration, upcoming recession, declining birthrate and we're funding a losing war in Ukraine and a genocide in Palestine. To say this is unsustainable is an understatement. This is literally a death spiral. I give it 10 years, tops.
@@GK-ku3zv yes duplicitous don the con inherited $ from daddyand a economy that had 70plus months of job growth from the previous administration..!!!! charlottesville and jan6th!!! lied about the pandemic !!!.. also. yes ..mr bankruptcy/ business failures is pathetic..p.s Putin is happy his mistress is back 😒😏💙👍
I agree. I think the worst of it is no more than five years away but the aftershocks might last for decades…. My craziest scenario is that the USA breaks up into at least two separate countries along ideological lines and new “superpowers” rise out of the Global South in a multi-polar world…and China becomes THE major player. But we’ll see…
You know Jim Crow was a southern thing, right? It wasn't a nationwide policy. And maybe if you had lived at the peak, you wouldn't be a digital nomad with nothing invested.
Rome: used divide-and-rule unto others, hidden behind a history of hubris and jingoism, and evtl. ended up divided. The British Empire: used divide-and-rule unto others, hidden behind a history of hubbris and jingoism, and evtl. ended up divided. The American Century: used divide-and-rule onto others, and is currently hiding behind stories of hubris and jingoism... What is the next stage of the empire?
I think that states will have a vote on allowing others to secede. America is so ideologically opposed that there has to be a separation to avoid violence.
I think that economic elites creates so many conflicts (wars, genocides, injustice, famine, pollution, mass distraction channels) because conciousness of people allways tends to rise and that is one of the bigest problems for elite's plans and their blo--dy status quo. Thanks Katie Halper and Cornel West, your contribution for the rissing of counciousness of people is huge. Thanks!!
Than you aren’t thinking at all and frankly you shouldn’t think, it’s clear you don’t know how to use your brain so leave the thinking for people with a 3 digit IQ
Gil Scott Heron's so-called "American Winter" is not some bygone season, it is an enduring reality as we stand before the unmasked countenance of American perversity . But there is a splendid and beautiful thing that we can experience in struggle. That is, the people who stand strong and tell the truth to the face of power. Thank you, Katie Halper for being one of the precious people leading in the Army of Love. I have enormous respect for you.
I disagree that Empire has another half-century before collapsing. While it's sometimes helpful to compare this one to the British, change happens faster than in the past & many people have been left behind in this society that only resembles the one last century.
Why he got 500,000? You a communist who wants to be leader you hate capitalism but you got 500k that we know about? It coukdnt have been easy to make that . A liar . Just like the rest .
We've already hit the iceberg and just slowly taking on water at the present. We'll figuratively be at the bottom of the Atlantic by the end of the century.
I'm mixed Navajo and Hopi..I can tell you the prophesy says that America will come and America will go and America will be no more..we are already on the path it won't be long now!
We have an American culture, mostly thanks to Americans of all races & backgrounds who worked tirelessly to create compelling literature, visual arts, drama, music, sports, cuisine & on & on. Even our language has diverged from the British with differences in spelling, slang & usage.
@ Yes, true but I think of that as more of the quilt while we tend to use European culture specifically the British as the bed sheet or foundation we built upon our house on. We do have a quilted checkered identity as Americans. Anyways like Sharon Stone (I hate quoting celebrities) put it “we are a young nation”, but I don’t believe we are going to fall apart any time soon, as many doomsday grifters keep whining in our streets want to believe.
That is true since the dawn of movie making. Western movies hired non natives in makeup to portray so called indians at a time when the natives could have use the income for their own needs. Of course the storyline would have been screwed up to make them look like the bad guys. Movies covering all sorts of topics depicted non whites as less than.
As many of us learned in school, all empires collapse into chaos and depravity. We've seen it happening here for decades. The "enlightenment" of the 60's was so encouraging, then we fell back as the barbarians pushed back....I suspected then that we were in trouble.
@@bumble-g2j but yeah. Capitalism has had a few heart attacks. It's an evil system. It eats people and nations for breakfast, and most of us are sick of it.
@@theobserver9131 it's all connected. Each is impossible to separate. The US empire operates on a completely sort of dynamic compared to any other. The only parallel is acquisition of the states and some of its territories. Technically speaking the empire of the US does not rely on occupation as such like the French, the English or for that matter, the poor benighted denizens of Moscow.
Very well said Cornell West, my setiments exactly. We are all human. When do we address the fact that America is a very wealthy country yet we have homeless people like most third world countries, yet we brag about how patriotic we are and great America is. The fact that we have an element in this country who think they are owed something and encourage hate and violence. Humanity does not seem to reach all Americans.
I have a few friends & relatives who have spent time in the prison system. I live in Los Angeles District Attorney Gascon has been extremely lackadaisical when it comes to crime. It has caused Flash mobs running rampant destroying property, creating a very unsafe and dangerous community. Unfortunately I know folks who have spent 15+ years in prison and have been released, but 7+ years later they have still not joined society, they are institutionalized in their mind and angry. The thought of Millions pardoned and released at once .. we all need to pray 🙏 and fast and look up Psalm 121. Bless you, I too am very sad and hurt from all the injustice I have seen and experienced in this “Land of the !!$?($&”
The Bible not only states that Babylon/which is part of America will fall, but that this whole entire world is going to burn to ashes and THE MOST HIGH GOD YAHUAH is going to be the ONE to do it. We must Repent and confess our sins to YAHUAH (THE MOST HIGH GOD) through intense prayer and be mindful that YAHUAH is faithful and just to forgive our sins and to purify our unrighteousness when we do so. (Jeremiah 50:2, 1 Thessalonians 5:17, Malachi 4:1-3, 1 John 1:9).
America has no Queen or King nor is it an Islands. It's trouble started with the nations coming out of the water and the last nation to do so was GB, which is a Island.
Jeremiah 3:1-3. (Gods Trumpet) But you have played the harlot with many lovers. You have polluted the land with your harlotry and your wickedness. You have had a harlot’s forehead, and you refuse to be ashamed.
@@roscojenkins7451 They want this country to fall and everyday more and more are coming here to reap the benefits of this country with the same mouth talk crap about it. It's these Islands that are trouble because they came upon our lands with this nonsense. America has no Queen or King either!
Posted this as a reply to someone living abroad, I have been researching politics, social issues and psychology for most of my Life and I have come to some conclusions about how we got here, here is some of my ideations. The only difference between now and before, is that trump has no governor, no limit, no guardrails, but the fact is, Unscrupulous people have always sought powers, it’s the nature of the bully, to seek to control, their seething insecurities Demand such restitution. This is not to say, people of good character, don’t arise on the occasion, just not here and now. IMHO, Trump is a symptom of a much larger problem, one of moral ineptitude, an inability for people to recognize the Difference between, genuine inflection into the broader issues of social organization, and a bid used to cease Power by playing this strong man, who claims will only wield power to manage the tangled bramble of corruption, to bring an end to nepotisms Child. It’s just so absurd, for people to fail to grasp, rule of law and not the law of the jungle, is necessary to maintain Government integrity. Accountability, requires transparency, redress, assembly, press. All to put pressure to assign accounting of behavior. Once you live in the age of contrarianism, where disingenuous behavior dominates. We are facing the end of the Age of Enlightenment.. ✌️
My brother in Kappa has a valid point. I've had this same conversation with a young man in New Jersey who reminded me about world history that each empire on the planet has collapsed
Lovely thought, but humans have ALWAYS waged war. I doubt war will end until humans end. War makers are better at making people do their bidding than peace makers are. Fear motivates stronger than love.
America’s founding actually didn’t have access to Marx or Kropotkin for working class politics. So you can’t really criticize them for that. Too early. They had Rosseau, who was about all persons being equal. Huge mistake on slavery for all of the US at its founding for an entire century.
@@user-wl2xl5hm7k Gnosticism. Gnosticism does believe that all people are fundamentally equal, as the core tenet of Gnosticism is that every human contains a "divine spark" or a piece of the divine being trapped within their physical body, regardless of social status or external circumstances; therefore, the potential for spiritual liberation is considered equal for all individuals.
i'd suggest an even more radical framing - "civilization" we have been presented with has always been built on the barbarism of colonialism. our willingness to go along with its social mandates is simply voluntary surrender of our collective power to a distinctly UNcivilized state.
We missed out on the moment in a movement to have elected Cornel West for President. Cornel West would have been that vestal, in which true Progressive change would have been established. As President, Cornel West would have been in position to take down the empire from within. Now we have a chance to get behind the Truth, justice, and love party agenda. If successful, will bring hope to the working class, as we gather to finally put an end to the corporate empire once and for all.
This is biblical it won’t be a slow fall it will be thrown down by God and the kingdom will be returned to the true children of God. I’ve been celebrating let it fall.
I don’t support idolatry…I’m speaking of TMH GOD of Israel. Not JC black or white. 11 I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is NO SAVIOR 12 I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, that I am God. 13 Yea, before the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who shall let it? 9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is NONE LIKE ME 10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: 🙏🏿🙌🏿
The Native American Indians were slaughtering each other before we ever got here! And then we kicked ASS AND WON 🏆 CONQUEST BABY! THE 💪 STRONGEST MAN WON 🏆 THE WEAK LOST! HALLELUJAH!
I supported with my funds dear sir. I wish the message could penetrate our hearts even mine. I don’t think enough people give a damn at this point, so much manipulation and destruction it’s hard to see the beauty at time’s. I will fight for Love though even in the mist of darkness.
He's right, but also wrong. The American Empire is beginning to crack. But he's guilty of the same thing he accuses America: seeing things from a black and white perspective. Not everything about America is bad and not everything about other people opressed by America is good.
like his bullshit performative act of running for president helped...he needs to GTFOOH! and i say that as a Black American woman who's actually Done The Work to Make Positive Change...unlike him.
It’s good to see people who think for themselves. I agree America can’t continue to spiral 🌀 like this. No matter what side you’re on a lot of people are just barely able to get by trying to make ends meet. As far as the Middle East is concerned there will never be Peace in that region .
This guy's guess is off by 45 years when he says 50 years. it more like 5 yr. , he is not factoring in cell phones today and or internet that didn't exist in other empire breakdowns Bad news travels in seconds today ----
The culture from which we emerge is causing the demise of the culture. Time to write a New Cultural Story it starts with the Unity of All Life. This guiding principle uses evolution to guide the process of evolution so we are not subject to our own demise. This is what evolved societies do put in principles to guide the process. We Are All One
I loved her show w Matt Tahibi, but that guy turned out to be a TOTAL sell out. And i could never really himein on what his true stance ever was. Katie, imo, is as genuine as they get! Go Katie! You're better off without him.
Half century? Lol, america doesn't even have a half decade let. Not even 5 years left. Now that trump will be president, usa doesnt even have 4 years left. 2 years even would be a miracle
Greetings from Ireland, bye bye the United States of Greed, thanks for some brilliant music (jazz et al), some really cool cars, motor bikes, with clothes too match
It will be a combination of things….famine, plague, climate change, social unrest, etc. It’s typically a snowball effect, with each factor causing another.
“America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without pausing for civilization." - Oscar Wilde
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Did they ever stop the barbarism?
@@davidlazarus67 Barbarism and civilization are opposites. But a country can still commit a crime against humanity after becoming civilized if its period of civilization has passed over into decadence.
@@AtlantaBill My point was that they never skipped the barbarism. Multiple wars post independence against smaller powers and for their own corporations benefits. Just saying you are a civilisation doesn’t necessarily make you one. The decadence really only applies to the elites.
@@davidlazarus67 There was an effort at building a civilization (with the victory over the Southern Confederacy), but it got sidetracked into colonialism. If a civilization stops progressing, it decays into something undesirable. Decadence has an historical meaning involving social decay.
A reasonable person is unpopular in an insane society.
With wisdom, which means wise words being spoken. You are spot on.
@@faithrestoredny2297the US is a strange dichotomy, culturally they are very anti intellectual.
Halper is a Trumper. She is the insane person.
Older empires died slowly. Modern empires die quick and noisey.
Modern empires also grow fast. Then they age fast.
I agree with you, but look at the Brits: Hanging on by their fingernails still trying to pretend they are important, when the only thing they do is participate in surveillance and war.
Heavy Truth
Fact's,,,every body here owns a gun,,,,
@@coldskilzs4127where is the uprising? Last ones that moved the US a baby step forward was during the 50s and 60s. Where are all those 2nd amendment, we have guns to keep our govt in line people? They don’t exist.
As immediate neighbours of the USA, I and my country are widely affected by what is happening there. Most of my fellow Canadians don't even know Dr. West exists.
It made me sick during the entire USA election that Dr. West and Jill Stein were excluded from day-to-day media coverage, excluded from both Presidential debates.
Most Americans, themselves, don't know about the ideas and values these two brilliant people had to offer. When all people hear are the self-serving, extreme capitalist shouting of two Parties, each controlled by the same greed-focused power mongers, there is no demicracy.
so glad to hear your voice, pour vrai ça me rassure, car on a l'impression d'être seule ici au canada puis au québec
Jill Stein is not "brilliant". She is a Russian operative, and that's been known for a long time.
Jill stein is a traitor and Russian stooge.
Moreover, so many supposed "progressives" like AOC, Medhi Hassan, et al, sold their consciences and stepped up to attack and denigrate Stein and West.
That’s my PRESIDENT right there. Dr West is the only candidate who could bring us Together as a whole 🎯
The citizens have lost control of their government. The citizens are restless. This can not go on.
this is not a very accurate framing. the citizens never had control over governance - the governmental system in america was designed to compartmentalize power and control who gets to count as a citizen in the first place. not to get too far in the weeds here, but the very concept of a "citizen" inherently requires violent assertion of state power. all "we the people" have done is continually chase down this artifically imposed concept of "citizenry" and tried to keep expanding its definition so that these supposed "equal rights" are actually available to all people - something that is simply antithetical to a capitalist system, which is part of why it feels like no progress has been made in half a century.
the citizens never had control of government. The government is controlled by aristocratic elites from the start. The roman senate was brought in to shield in the emperors , not serve the people. Same is true here, the senators and presidents serve their bosses and their interest not the people. The people have some privileges, they decide whats a citizen. They want to make mexicans or people from south america citizens, they make them citizens the border is still open even after trump re-election and will continue, most of what trump says is more rhetoric and less actual action. Its a job being the president. You are in delusion if you believe the government works for you.
@@kylezo yup most honest man who lived in America is George Carlin, and people think hes either a drunk or a comedian. More like truth teller.😅
@@charleskesner1302 You just voted for it to continue.
I feel we need a democratic nationalism, and a civil nationalism, to counter the faux nationalism we're being offered.
Democratic to establish that no one's too good for the nation, and to establish representative government.
Civil to establish the culture conducive to democratic organization.
Civil Rights have been around a long time, now.
They've shaped the organizational culture in military, government, education, etc.
MLK Jr provided the roadmap to a better form of nationalism. It's just taken a long time for some people to listen.
It's a shame we don't have a more robust defense of Civil Rights, and the civil culture it produces from this left wing.
Also, to place equal responsibility on the right wing for their enforcement and interpretation.
Civil Rights should be the right wing position, and civil nationalism the left wing.
When push comes to shove, most of us prefer the culture of Civil Rights, despite the complaining and arguing.
This is the West I value: prophetic and critical
He's actually a joke when it comes to politics since he supported Genocide Joe. But he's great a slinging BS, I'll give him that. Blah blah blah ... yeah ok. The guy is a poser who talks a big game but he's just good at telling stories. He's like those TV evangelists struting aroung on stage "Oh Jesus, I feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel your power yah!" what a joke.
Cornell west was acting like a fool and sabotaging the third party presidential runs. I haven't forgotten. What a disappointment. All these progressives show their face. Mr Glinda.
His critique would be more valuable, coming from within the Democrat Party. The far-Right has taken over control of the Republican Party, so why has the far/further-Left not tried to do the same thing within the Democrat Party?
@@siriuslyspeaking9720 It may be because the republican party was far more welcoming to the far right than the democrats who fear any challenge from the actual left
@@siriuslyspeaking9720because the republicans and democrats historically have silenced, imprisoned and killed far lefters. They are both right wing parties (I’d argue dems and reps are one party) FDR killed the only efforts to bring in a revolution
A truly great man of our times and an awesome intellect. Courageously correct for decades. A blessing for our country so rife with corruption and stupidity.
5 decades? I would give it 5 years if it lasts that long !
Albany ga ray Charles residents in here I give it 2025, 2030😮😮
Yup. They worked hard to bring us this theocracy they planning.
Nero 🔥 Rome, Hitler the Reichstag and this one will probably do the same. Nothing new under the sun.
America has serious problems, but it still has tremendous capabilities at its disposal. It will take some time before it really starts collapsing.
maybe 7 years
I don't think it will necessarily collapse in 5 or 7 years, but the deterioration will noticeably accelerate over the next 5 or 10 years.
Thank you, Katie Halper and Dr. West for letting us listen in on this interesting conversation!
Needed a hope-infusion in these times where so much is surpressed while some keep ignoring the obvious truth!
We have rampant inflation, majority of citizens living paycheck to paycheck, increasing homelessness, stagnant wages, unchecked illegal immigration, upcoming recession, declining birthrate and we're funding a losing war in Ukraine and a genocide in Palestine. To say this is unsustainable is an understatement. This is literally a death spiral. I give it 10 years, tops.
And Jan6th and duplicitous don the con and project 2025aka 1865is not the answer ok !!!!!!🥴🥴
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8.5 years
I remember living paycheck to paycheck. That was the good ole' days! 😞
@@GK-ku3zv yes duplicitous don the con inherited $ from daddyand a economy that had 70plus months of job growth from the previous administration..!!!! charlottesville and jan6th!!! lied about the pandemic !!!.. also. yes ..mr bankruptcy/ business failures is pathetic..p.s Putin is happy his mistress is back 😒😏💙👍
Fifty years? That’s being very generous. More like five years.
I agree. I think the worst of it is no more than five years away but the aftershocks might last for decades….
My craziest scenario is that the USA breaks up into at least two separate countries along ideological lines and new “superpowers” rise out of the Global South in a multi-polar world…and China becomes THE major player.
But we’ll see…
5/15 years where the serious cracks will be seen by everyone...
I agree!
I'm not hopeful for the next 5 months honestly
@ Neither am I. Even five years may be generous.
As a digital nomad with nothing invested in the system, I feel lucky to live in the decline, rather than at its Jim Crow peak.
You know Jim Crow was a southern thing, right? It wasn't a nationwide policy.
And maybe if you had lived at the peak, you wouldn't be a digital nomad with nothing invested.
Rome: used divide-and-rule unto others, hidden behind a history of hubris and jingoism, and evtl. ended up divided.
The British Empire: used divide-and-rule unto others, hidden behind a history of hubbris and jingoism, and evtl. ended up divided.
The American Century: used divide-and-rule onto others, and is currently hiding behind stories of hubris and jingoism...
What is the next stage of the empire?
I think that states will have a vote on allowing others to secede. America is so ideologically opposed that there has to be a separation to avoid violence.
Dr Cornel West always explains things so that we all can understand what he is saying.
I love that. ❤️
Except what he says is BS.
@@peterstafford4426Troll Peter Stafford Has Reemerged
@@peterstafford4426Troll Peter Stafford has Reemerged
Really? And what exactly do you think he’s saying?
@@peterstafford4426 true the empire is collapsing but West is a fraud
I think that economic elites creates so many conflicts (wars, genocides, injustice, famine, pollution, mass distraction channels) because conciousness of people allways tends to rise and that is one of the bigest problems for elite's plans and their blo--dy status quo. Thanks Katie Halper and Cornel West, your contribution for the rissing of counciousness of people is huge. Thanks!!
Lol don’t tell you believe this Leftist garbage war has ALWAYS existed pal.
Also Cornel West has made no contributions whatsoever, the guy has built a career of off distorting history and spreading misinformation.
Than you aren’t thinking at all and frankly you shouldn’t think, it’s clear you don’t know how to use your brain so leave the thinking for people with a 3 digit IQ
One idea it is absolutely necessary to destroy is that white-collar crime doesn't hurt anyone. Your list of conflicts says it all.
@ obviously white collar crimes hurts people nobody denies that
It won't be a half of a century, maybe the next 5-10-15 years at the most
Gil Scott Heron's so-called "American Winter" is not some bygone season, it is an enduring reality as we stand before the unmasked countenance of American perversity . But there is a splendid and beautiful thing that we can experience in struggle. That is, the people who stand strong and tell the truth to the face of power. Thank you, Katie Halper for being one of the precious people leading in the Army of Love. I have enormous respect for you.
I disagree that Empire has another half-century before collapsing. While it's sometimes helpful to compare this one to the British, change happens faster than in the past & many people have been left behind in this society that only resembles the one last century.
I AGREE. Things are moving at a much faster pace and active, hot war, conflicts ALREADY underway.
Typical american living i denial. Half a century, good riddance to you. Amwrican are the most brainwash people in the world. Lololol
Since you can predict the future, please tell me what stocks to invest in?
@@robinali6903 Keep out of the markets!
Why he got 500,000? You a communist who wants to be leader you hate capitalism but you got 500k that we know about? It coukdnt have been easy to make that . A liar . Just like the rest .
Good to see Ms Halper continuing her journalism career. That being said her professionalism and ability to let her guests speak is refreshing.
Halper appreciates your support.
already collapsed
not yet, but it is on the horizon
How?
Super facts
We've already hit the iceberg and just slowly taking on water at the present. We'll figuratively be at the bottom of the Atlantic by the end of the century.
@@cyberdemon6517exactly
Like The First Nations predicted during the 19th century. The Hopi said, "They'd would come and go." that's a fact!
I'm mixed Navajo and Hopi..I can tell you the prophesy says that America will come and America will go and America will be no more..we are already on the path it won't be long now!
Two people, one a wise, brilliant, old black man, the other a brilliant, young woman, taking on the establishment. All is not yet lost in this world.
His campaign was a shambles.
Taking on the establishment? What a joke. He’s looking t enrich himself.
We assume that because America is currently lost that means the entire world and humanity is. It ain't.
Lol one of them is an old black fool way in over his head and the other is a white woman dumb enough to believe him
@@ninadaly7639 exactly
It’s more of collapse of British Empire, we’re just ripple effect cause we use their culture as a base for our own.
We have an American culture, mostly thanks to Americans of all races & backgrounds who worked tirelessly to create compelling literature, visual arts, drama, music, sports, cuisine & on & on. Even our language has diverged from the British with differences in spelling, slang & usage.
@ Yes, true but I think of that as more of the quilt while we tend to use European culture specifically the British as the bed sheet or foundation we built upon our house on. We do have a quilted checkered identity as Americans. Anyways like Sharon Stone (I hate quoting celebrities) put it “we are a young nation”, but I don’t believe we are going to fall apart any time soon, as many doomsday grifters keep whining in our streets want to believe.
the american empire subsumed the british empire over a half century ago.
...and the British Empire was really the continuation of the Roman Empire.
...and now we have Caligula.
The whole interview is great. We need these voices. Thank you both for what you do.
This is gonna sound bogus to some but it seems people don't realize how much of a role *Hollywood* plays in maintaining the statis quo.
That is true since the dawn of movie making. Western movies hired non natives in makeup to portray so called indians at a time when the natives could have use the income for their own needs. Of course the storyline would have been screwed up to make them look like the bad guys. Movies covering all sorts of topics depicted non whites as less than.
Creators of American myths that ultimately goes against progressive values.
As many of us learned in school, all empires collapse into chaos and depravity. We've seen it happening here for decades. The "enlightenment" of the 60's was so encouraging, then we fell back as the barbarians pushed back....I suspected then that we were in trouble.
So how many years has capitalism been about to collapse?
More like the enlightenment in the 60s devolved into victimhood and begging from others.
@@bumble-g2j No idea. wrong thread dude. not talking about capitalism here. talking about empire.
@@bumble-g2j but yeah. Capitalism has had a few heart attacks. It's an evil system. It eats people and nations for breakfast, and most of us are sick of it.
@@theobserver9131 it's all connected.
Each is impossible to separate.
The US empire operates on a completely sort of dynamic compared to any other.
The only parallel is acquisition of the states and some of its territories.
Technically speaking the empire of the US does not rely on occupation as such like the French, the English or for that matter, the poor benighted denizens of Moscow.
Very well said Cornell West, my setiments exactly. We are all human. When do we address the fact that America is a very wealthy country yet we have homeless people like most third world countries, yet we brag about how patriotic we are and great America is. The fact that we have an element in this country who think they are owed something and encourage hate and violence. Humanity does not seem to reach all Americans.
The millions of families with inmates should plead for pardons.
I have a few friends & relatives who have spent time in the prison system. I live in Los Angeles District Attorney Gascon has been extremely lackadaisical when it comes to crime. It has caused Flash mobs running rampant destroying property, creating a very unsafe and dangerous community. Unfortunately I know folks who have spent 15+ years in prison and have been released, but 7+ years later they have still not joined society, they are institutionalized in their mind and angry. The thought of Millions pardoned and released at once .. we all need to pray 🙏 and fast and look up Psalm 121. Bless you, I too am very sad and hurt from all the injustice I have seen and experienced in this “Land of the !!$?($&”
The Bible not only states that Babylon/which is part of America will fall, but that this whole entire world is going to burn to ashes and THE MOST HIGH GOD YAHUAH is going to be the ONE to do it. We must Repent and confess our sins to YAHUAH (THE MOST HIGH GOD) through intense prayer and be mindful that YAHUAH is faithful and just to forgive our sins and to purify our unrighteousness when we do so. (Jeremiah 50:2, 1 Thessalonians 5:17, Malachi 4:1-3, 1 John 1:9).
Fairy tales won’t save the world and your fellow Christians have gotten us into this mess. God died in the 90’s give ur head a shake
America has no Queen or King nor is it an Islands. It's trouble started with the nations coming out of the water and the last nation to do so was GB, which is a Island.
Subscribed because it’s so refreshing to see an interviewer let the guest speak!
Jeremiah 3:1-3. (Gods Trumpet) But you have played the harlot with many lovers. You have polluted the land with your harlotry and your wickedness. You have had a harlot’s forehead, and you refuse to be ashamed.
What?
@@roscojenkins7451 They want this country to fall and everyday more and more are coming here to reap the benefits of this country with the same mouth talk crap about it. It's these Islands that are trouble because they came upon our lands with this nonsense. America has no Queen or King either!
Love this man!
Did you love him enough to be our president?
Posted this as a reply to someone living abroad, I have been researching politics, social issues and psychology for most of my
Life and I have come to some conclusions about how we got here, here is some of my ideations.
The only difference between now and before, is that trump has no governor, no limit, no guardrails, but the fact is,
Unscrupulous people have always sought powers, it’s the nature of the bully, to seek to control, their seething insecurities
Demand such restitution.
This is not to say, people of good character, don’t arise on the occasion, just not here and now.
IMHO, Trump is a symptom of a much larger problem, one of moral ineptitude, an inability for people to recognize the
Difference between, genuine inflection into the broader issues of social organization, and a bid used to cease
Power by playing this strong man, who claims will only wield power to manage the tangled bramble of corruption, to bring an end to nepotisms
Child.
It’s just so absurd, for people to fail to grasp, rule of law and not the law of the jungle, is necessary to maintain
Government integrity.
Accountability, requires transparency, redress, assembly, press. All to put pressure to assign accounting of behavior.
Once you live in the age of contrarianism, where disingenuous behavior dominates.
We are facing the end of the Age of Enlightenment..
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Afghanistan is where empires go to die! This started way back in 2001. And the Democrats sought the endorsement of the man who masterminded it.
Why 2001?
Does that year fit more accurately with your bias?
@@bumble-g2j Because that's when we went to Afghanistan. The fuck are you talking about?
You're obviously referring to Dick Cheney . He is a bastard
U.S. Reborn from the ashes with your best values and your unique character!❤👍🏼🇲🇽
Yes something is wrong with humanity.
My brother in Kappa has a valid point. I've had this same conversation with a young man in New Jersey who reminded me about world history that each empire on the planet has collapsed
No one gets to rule forever. That’s the rule.
I am folowing K sinceone year from Germany. I am Happy for her she is with us! One of my heros ofthis days! WE LOVE YOU!
Dr West is amazing! I believe his knowledge and humanity are partly formed by his understanding of Jazz and John Coltrane! 🎷
Jesus is a Jazz Theologian ❤
Cornel West, a drop of sanity in a desert of desperation.
More like just a drop of desperation.
Why is it a warning of the fall of the empire? Why not a celebration?
Excellent question! Maybe it depends on where you are (or will be) when it happens, and where you are in the social pecking order?
Because YOU will be going down too!
@@ninadaly7639So what? I will still celebrate the fall!
@ You will celebrate your own demise? That’s idiocy!
@@ninadaly7639 You equate the death of this nation to your own?
Your channel and interviews are excellent, as well as your guests. Thank you. Stay safe and God Bless
Shout out to Mr Cornell for being so unbiased
If America was built on the Greek/Roman model, then will suffer there fate...
Stop war!
Lovely thought, but humans have ALWAYS waged war. I doubt war will end until humans end. War makers are better at making people do their bidding than peace makers are. Fear motivates stronger than love.
War is a part of nature.
💙❤💙❤. We luv Katie. We luv Cornel. Rock On 🤘
The pioneers of a warless world are the young men (and women) who refuse military service. -Albert Einstein
America’s founding actually didn’t have access to Marx or Kropotkin for working class politics. So you can’t really criticize them for that.
Too early.
They had Rosseau, who was about all persons being equal.
Huge mistake on slavery for all of the US at its founding for an entire century.
All people being equal is a religious belief
@@sdrc92126 Study Rosseau, you’ll see what I’m saying. It’ll make sense, believe me.
It’s not religion.
@@sdrc92126 ... which religion? certainly not ones that claim the Bible or the Quran.
@@user-wl2xl5hm7k Yes, Romanticism and anti-enlightenment (another religious movement).
@@user-wl2xl5hm7k Gnosticism. Gnosticism does believe that all people are fundamentally equal, as the core tenet of Gnosticism is that every human contains a "divine spark" or a piece of the divine being trapped within their physical body, regardless of social status or external circumstances; therefore, the potential for spiritual liberation is considered equal for all individuals.
He listed everyone except Mr. Shebaz “ Malcolm X”
Farrahkan,claud Anderson as well
@ Farrakhan NO! He had a fifty year run! Can we imagine hypothetically MLK, X , black panthers, had that same time Farrakhan had?
It will take a long time. Most of us will not live to see it, but we will live through the worst of it.
Greed and corruption are now in the seat of righteousness and holiness and ii is now noble and dignified to be greedy and corrupt !
Create IRS system to keep people poorer. Economy injustice.
Can’t wait to Tune In
So if civilization collapses I don't need to be civilized anymore.
😆😆😆😂😂😂
i'd suggest an even more radical framing - "civilization" we have been presented with has always been built on the barbarism of colonialism. our willingness to go along with its social mandates is simply voluntary surrender of our collective power to a distinctly UNcivilized state.
It'll become a much more savage environment, so you have to turn into a savage to survive.
I was proud to ✍️ you in 😊.
I appreciate your Work. 😇
Very smart man. We should all listen intently. 😢
Brother West is always on point
I read about the incoming collapse in 2013. Been prepping ever since. Its nice to feel like im not crazy.
Absolutely. Beautifully articulated...
We missed out on the moment in a movement to have elected Cornel West for President. Cornel West would have been that vestal, in which true Progressive change would have been established. As President, Cornel West would have been in position to take down the empire from within. Now we have a chance to get behind the Truth, justice, and love party agenda. If successful, will bring hope to the working class, as we gather to finally put an end to the corporate empire once and for all.
You should’ve dropped out Cornell and gave support to the sister! Real talk!!
This is biblical it won’t be a slow fall it will be thrown down by God and the kingdom will be returned to the true children of God. I’ve been celebrating let it fall.
You evangelicals are a large part of why America is falling. You are also part of the reason the Roman's fell
Our King is coming with vengeance
Positive
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I don’t support idolatry…I’m speaking of TMH GOD of Israel. Not JC black or white.
11 I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is NO SAVIOR
12 I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, that I am God.
13 Yea, before the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who shall let it?
9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is NONE LIKE ME
10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
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He knows exactly where to go and where to put it
We needs to be concerned about black born Americans. Nobody else until we get situated. Period.......
We are at the very end of time as the light of spirituality of truth & morality has dimmed to a mere flicker!
No, the western empire is at its end, the rest of the world has it together, are strong and united.
Thanks Dr. West.
The Native American Indians were slaughtering each other before we ever got here! And then we kicked ASS AND WON 🏆 CONQUEST BABY! THE 💪 STRONGEST MAN WON 🏆 THE WEAK LOST! HALLELUJAH!
You have to listen to this man words and he is 💯 spot on ( America is an Empire and we’re at the last days )
thank you, brother.thabk you, sister
Really enjoyed it! Looking forward to more videos! 🍭💝
I supported with my funds dear sir. I wish the message could penetrate our hearts even mine. I don’t think enough people give a damn at this point, so much manipulation and destruction it’s hard to see the beauty at time’s. I will fight for Love though even in the mist of darkness.
He's right, but also wrong. The American Empire is beginning to crack. But he's guilty of the same thing he accuses America: seeing things from a black and white perspective. Not everything about America is bad and not everything about other people opressed by America is good.
It's more of a division between rich and poor. The GOP have convinced the poor Whites that their problems come for other poor people of color .
like his bullshit performative act of running for president helped...he needs to GTFOOH! and i say that as a Black American woman who's actually Done The Work to Make Positive Change...unlike him.
Empires are built on imaginary borders and imaginary beliefs.
It’s good to see people who think for themselves. I agree America can’t continue to spiral 🌀 like this. No matter what side you’re on a lot of people are just barely able to get by trying to make ends meet. As far as the Middle East is concerned there will never be Peace in that region .
THANK YOU CORNELL . TRUTH AND BEAUTY . ❤
The Empire is infected by a particular Tribe.
Space laser people
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Jews, right?
This is genuine antisemitism. Stop doing this, it is dangerous.
this sounds like nazi shit, ngl.
We had a good run Dr West.
That is so true! They let too many rainbows IN and drowned the message of the poor blacks and children.
Do sayings like "Who lives by the sword, dies by the sword" come from actual experience?
This guy's guess is off by 45 years when he says 50 years. it more like 5 yr. , he is not factoring in cell phones today and or internet that didn't exist in other empire breakdowns
Bad news travels in seconds today ----
Mr West, we know about the past, we know about today. It’s not good.
How can we fix things tomorrow?
The doctor got my vote this year. Thank you, sir, for your integrity, intellect and service to the collective.
I wasn’t going to vote at all. Then I remembered Cornel West was running, and I got my ass up and voted for him.
WELL SAID PROFESSOR
I think it going to become less powerful but way more aggressive in a form of a real empire from a republic to an Emporium.
"American claims of innocence, and obsession with dreams"- Cornel West
Awesome Video
IT'S SO SIMPLE
THE GENTILES TIME IS BEING FULFILLED!!!!
TGE GENTILES TIME IS UP!!!!
FROM EGYPT TO MODERN BABYLON
AMERICA....TIME IS UP!!!
JB.SHALOM
The culture from which we emerge is causing the demise of the culture.
Time to write a New Cultural Story it starts with the Unity of All Life. This guiding principle uses evolution to guide the process of evolution so we are not subject to our own demise.
This is what evolved societies do put in principles to guide the process.
We Are All One
This man haven’t done anything nothing at all he’s a good African history researcher
Screw Cornell West.
I don't think she gets it DR WEST....it's deeper than any education you think you have..much luv DR WEST
I loved her show w Matt Tahibi, but that guy turned out to be a TOTAL sell out. And i could never really himein on what his true stance ever was. Katie, imo, is as genuine as they get! Go Katie! You're better off without him.
Utterly clueless, but genuine in her ignorance.
Did Katie ever publicly distance herself from Taibbi or are they still aligned?
Half century? Lol, america doesn't even have a half decade let.
Not even 5 years left.
Now that trump will be president, usa doesnt even have 4 years left.
2 years even would be a miracle
Greetings from Ireland, bye bye the United States of Greed, thanks for some brilliant music (jazz et al), some really cool cars, motor bikes, with clothes too match
No mention of homelessness... God bless this man... ⚛️
It will be a combination of things….famine, plague, climate change, social unrest, etc. It’s typically a snowball effect, with each factor causing another.
But I find it strange, why would one want to run for president when it's declining 🤔
I had cast my vote for you Nov 2024.