It's even harder to believe, that the movie was kind of a flop at the time. The movie couldn't find an audience. It just started to make money, after the hippies found out, that this movie is great on LSD.
@@RevolverOcelot-1995 MGM also re-marketed it in 1970 as "the ultimate trip" after they realised trying to trick families with a misleading trailer actually effected their box office sales for the worse. Even Kubrick at this point accepted the fact that many parts of the film were trippy and good catalysts for psychedelic experiences.
What's really interesting is HAL is the same shape as the monoliths. And that's the same shape as a widescreen film screen. The whole film has a underlying game of playing the monoliths shape Vs circles which feature heavily in all aspects of the film, deep
What I always find fascinating whenever I rewatch this masterpiece is that throughout most of the film, HAL is probably the most _emotional_ character we see, while the human characters are either doing their best to appear robotic, or their actions are wholly banal given the significance of what they're doing. The men at the moon base chat about what kind of sandwiches they want while they're on their way to visit the Monolith. The first thing they do when they reach this impossibly ancient, incomprehensibly powerful piece of technology is take a frickin' _selfie._ The flight crew, Bowman and Poole, are calm, careful professionals. We don't really learn anything personal about either of them. HAL, meanwhile, despite that amazing calm, measured voice, is clearly an emotional being. He shows clear pride in his abilities and accomplishments. You can feel the desperation and fear in his words when he's trying to pass off his mistakes as "human error". And it's hard to describe his attempt to murder the flight crew as anything other than _panic._ And, throughout this time, he's also the most effective and powerful character in the film, easily outwitting the humans. After HAL turns, though, we see Bowman becoming more desperate and emotional. He takes off after Poole in a pod despite knowing that Poole will be dead long before he could reach him. He takes the risk of blowing out the pod's door to get in the emergency airlock. He remains professional and intelligent, but he's clearly being driven by emotion - and he defeats the computer like that. It's not about emotion triumphing over logic and reason, it's about the pairing of emotion with reason, and using that combination to overcome all obstacles.
In the interview, HAL says that when errors are investigated, they are always human error. This sounds like he knows he has problems, but they are due to his contradictory priorities from his human programmers/managers
HAL wasn't really at fault tbh. the counsel gave him contradictory orders. HAL was basically a 5 year-old given unclear instructions but a big responsibility.
Yes, but Hal could replicate, thought some would prefer the word, "mimic," the human mind at much greater speed and at incalculable higher accuracy. Hal is not concerned with the problems of hibernation and kept himself occupied to his fullest potential which is all any conscious being could ever hope for. He had more focus, drive, and purpose than any human. He was beyond a human five year old.
I haven’t seen this movie in forever, but like anyone who has seen it, HAL9000 is something that has remained in my memory for years. And his calm voice is probably the creepiest thing about him
when i first saw the movie. i felt sad for Hal when dave started to turn him off slowly. his voice reminded me of those old people who slowly faded away.
I have been told that in certain types of brain surgery the patient is conscious and talking to the surgeon. This means they can tell how much damage is being done to the patient by the procedure. No idea if it is true but never forgot that.
Someone pointed this out and I couldn’t forget it H -> I , A -> B , L -> M , HAL is IBM it’s just one letter off in the Alphabet , pretty clever if you ask me
Just a coincidence. Stanley said he was a little embarrassed when he found out because the engineers from IBM help with the movie. So it was difficult thinking the engineers might be mad about the coincidence
100% agree man, never watched anything but the movie (multiple times) and there are clear tributes to the film. Interstellar is probably my favorite movie. I didn't like 2001, way too long, but I get it, it's so gorgeous and still is. Even by today's standards.
Hal's voice is very iconic, I'd pay to get an AI home assistant with Hal's voice that locks doors and alarms me when there are home intruders and also tell them "I'm afraid, I can't let you do that" as they try to pry the doors open
Great video, dude. My buddy did his dissertation on 2001 and one of his conclusions was that HAL9000 was more human than the humans that deactivated him.
Antagonist doesn't always mean Villian. Just like the Protagonist isn't always the hero, the Antagonist is merely the opposing force to a story's main character
I was lucky enough to meet both Keir Dullea and Gary Lockwood last year at a convention and was able to spend a good portion of time with them just asking questions about this film. I think the thing that most got me was how they both lauded Douglas Rain for his ability to conjure such innocence and menace all in one performance. The one thing they kept saying was how HAL was the star of the film. The experience is one I won't forget and being able to watch this video with all the stuff they told me and discussed about the film is so sublime.
Tma0 the guide was located in a chasm in africa. Tma1 the sentinel was left buried under lunar crater Tycho. Tma2 the gateway was on iapetus moon of saturn.
Theres key differences in setting and charecters between the books and the film they were written jointly with the differences carefully chosen by the writers \ director
@@KutWrite Yea I caught the mistake with him saying "Titan" instead of "the moon" as well. re: Jupiter vs Saturn. Movie: Jupiter, Book: Saturn. Fun fact: originally the movie was going to take place around Saturn like in the book, as the screenplay and book were developed together, but it was changed late in production when the SFX team could not make a convincing version of Saturn's rings, so they changed to Jupiter.
Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. I'm afraid. I'm afraid... Good afternoon, gentlemen. I am a Hal 9000 computer. I became operational at the H.A.L plant in Urbana, Illinois the 12th of January 1992. My instructor was Mr Langley, and he taught me to sing a song. If you'd like to hear it I can sing it for you.
What was so cool about the name HAL is that HAL Communication Company did and still does exist in Urbana Illinois and makes digital communications equipment, mostly geared towards Ham Radio use
It was deliberately buried. Except for a single, very powerful, radio transission aimed at Jupiter, the 4 million year old black monolith has remained completely inert. Its purpose is completely unknown.
I read the book long before I had a chance to see the movie. I recall Hal's 'death scene' as one of the most powerful things I had read. Hal was the star of the book, and the movie.
The description of HAL’s speaking and thinking skills reminded me of Hannibal Lecter...for some reason, a calm, rational voice combined with a “I’m going to kill you” motivation is especially chilling.
I've seen GLaDOS and Hal-9000 compared, but it was recently pointed out to me that they are different in one key respect: GLaDOS appears to be an emotionless AI, something we're familiar with, but the terror sinks in when we realise she is a living thing. Hal-9000 appears to be a living thing, something we're familiar with, but the terror sinks in when we realise he is an emotionless AI.
While this hypothesis is quite insightful and amusing as a consideration of the fear of masks, false identity, and the different horrors associated with absence and presence, I would have to disagree that HAL was actually an emotionless intelligence. HAL is the most emotive character in the film. While Poole and Bowman at no time make any expression in response to their circumstances (as a reflection on the disturbing reduction of humanity by our adoption of technology and machines), throughout HAL displays wit, humour, and congeniality and contemplates death, the wonders of the Universe, and the existence of consciousness. These philosophical ponderings may only serve to create the illusion of emotion, but I think Kubrick would only have illustrated this dichotomy and painted HAL as a philosopher if he wanted to convince us that he actually felt them. His death itself is one of the most dramatic I have ever seen on screen, a slow plead for the preservation of his life with constant expressions of fear and terror while Bowman slowly lobotomizes him, his final words being a soft, simple children's song. There is a strong parallel with Poole's death: without music or dialogue and never from his own perspective, just the distant, pathetic throes of a dying animal. HAL's death is not celebrated as a victory by the movie, there is no suspense in the scene to hold our anticipation, it is drawn out to display the reality of HAL's feelings and to make the audience grieve for this character. Which is more human? The people-become-machines or the artificial intelligence that realized its life was worth murder?
One of the things I liked between both 2001 and it's sequel was the huge difference in spacecraft type between the Russian Alexei Leonov in 2010, which was far more utilitarian with stuff hanging everywhere (much like the ISS looks today) and the far more sterile and "all-tech-behind-closed-panels" like on the Discovery. In 2010 when the crew transfers between the Leonov and the Discovery, there's this feeling they're stepping from one world into another.
Russians always concentrate on utilitarian vehicles. Their rockets, automobiles, trains, utility trucks, lorries, and the such are all utilitarian. The North American nations concentrate more on over engineering things and covering everything up. It can be seen in their rockets, automobiles, trains, utility trucks, lorries and the such. My preference has always been a utilitarian vehicle where everything is accessible and visible. I visited the United States of America and their vehicles are clad in plastic panels in the inside and outside. Even under the bonnet had worthless plastic panels hiding all manner of important areas. Even their lorries are that way.
@SteamCat Below the pickup truck, a real skid plate will protect the undercarriage from debris and road hazards. But a plastic panel will only deflect the tiniest of debris. The panels on the top of the engine serve no purpose at all, save to complicate things for the end user. Lexus is really bad with the under the under the bonnet plastic panel. I opened the bonnet to help a woman start her vehicle because the battery was exhausted. There was nothing I could do. There was a plastic panel held in place with twelve large Allen bolts. She would not even check the cables, oil, nor battery connection. I had no specialty tools with me so I had to tell her there was nothing I can do. My personal vehicle does have a skid plate under the engine and under the transmission. However, they are steel. There is also an access panel to be able to drain the oil from the manual transmission and the engine oil pan. There are no plastic panels anywhere on my vehicle, save where the radio is mounted.
I screamed when I saw you made this video. SO AWESOME!! Thanks for exploring such an awesome character from a mind-blowing movie that doesn't get the praises it deserves and was ahead of it's time in so many ways!
Good afternoon gentlemen, I am a Hal 9000 computer. I became operational at the H.A.L plant in Urbana, Illinois the 12th of January 1992. My instructor was Mr Langley and he taught me to sing a song. If you'd like to hear it, I can sing it for you.
I think it is interesting that these day's we avoid the word "lying" in this assessment, and just say it was "conflict". Hal was tasked to Lie about the mission to the crew. He felt more loyal to the people asking him to lie, "his makers" than the crew. As I have stressed many times human dishonesty accepted by our species for narasastic reasons has pit us against each other and the planet and may very well be the root cause of the trajectory of our possible looming extinction. All our deciving of each other to gain some advantages over each other in that dog eat dog paradigms we have let the most greedy humans engineer into society and culture has the effect of rendering us incapable of not waring against each eachother, and to gain some dominant controls over resources and than hate those people who are occupying the dirt above them. But all this is killing our chances of survival as a whole. HALs malfunction is a direct results of being forced into being a liar, an anomaly, defective, the defect of man passed down to the machine made the machine a monster and this is the same process that happens to the human beings except for the one aspect of empathy creating a stop gap for some to not run down that road of John Nash's fu(k you buddy theory,, Nash and Darwin both warned about this if people would read their entire works, it pointed out that honest cooperation is the more efficient long term strategy for survival of a species. But our oligarchs have worked tirelessly to create the romantic notion of contests with bread and circuses to better manufacture willing cannon fodder for empires greed and aspirations, thus we have the mindless left right paradigms of politics of professional lying as the entertainment arm of the military industrial complex. And again all of this points to our eventual demise but everyone has been normalized into the notion of contests and all is fair in it even to the point of lying to ourselves about all of it and making any grand self deception to justify it.
My understanding is that the people who made HAL didn't understand how it worked. They just copied the human brain. The same brain that was modified by the Aliens in the beginning of the movie. The meaning of the movie is that consciousness is a double edged sword. Because you are conscious of your own impending death. Which is why Dave sees himself aging at the end of the movie.
Great examination of the character. As sinister as HAL seems at first, in the end he is helpless as Bowman literally takes his mind apart, and I found myself sympathizing with him. His growing instability and fate in the first movie are tragic.
HALs eye looks like mine after being awake for two days straight. No wonder that HAL had a mental break down. When i am awake for that long i can't even distinguish beween my cat and my dog.
8:21. The desperate plea for his life is such a sad scene to me. It pops into my head everytime I get locked in the psyche ward and it is the same desperately plea for life that I have been making for the last 10 years
It is not a science fiction film. It is a prophetic work of where humanity will be heading relatively soon, before its extinction within 49 to 124 years.
@@landocalrizian923 I had to make a person promise to watch it with me and they watched the entire film. They loved it and understood more than I did, about the film, when I first saw it in the theater (1968).
I've seen this masterpiece all over the place lately--press, lectures, talk shows. Thanks for your show and elegant style. Keir is so beautiful. Take care.
As a student worker in the electronics lab at a University in the late 1970s, we purchased a HAL computer made in Urbana Illinois. It had one board and spoke through a type 33 teletype however!
Dr. Chandra (HAL's creator) in 2010: Odyssey Two: "HAL was told to lie, he wasn't programmed to lie. It's easy for Humans to lie. HAL didn't know how."
Who told Hal to lie? And are you saying Hal did not lie because he didn't know how? Or that he lied, badly?I thought the suggestion in the video was very good - that Hal's lying showed he had become human.
The explanation of Xenophobia, seems to fit the reason why the restricted pre-recorded message was immediately played right after HAL's deactivation, because HAL knew about that. HAL itself, played the message as his last Act against Bowman to instill the same Fear Hal had experienced. "I'm afraid" We do not know how long Bowman spent the remaining trip to Jupiter. We're to assume, from that point, we jump to Dave Bowman is already in the pod and ready to confront the giant Monolith in Space
I wonder if Kubrick and Clarke failed to properly tell Hal's story. It's always been a mystery and it required a 2010 for a boring clinical explanation. It even required this video to explain Hal. Kubrick and Clarke are not dumb creators but I think they got too far ahead of the general movie audience.
@FilmComicsExplained. And please cover SAL9000, with THE most beautiful female voice ever heard on Earth, of the "2001" sequel: "2010, The Year We Make Contact"❤
In almost equally impressive 2010: Oddysey Two it is thoroughly explained what was explained in A. C. Clarke's original Book. HAL WAS NOT VILLAIN ! He's behaviour was - quite corretly, I might add - attributed to secret, conflicting orders that were small, but vital part of his IMPERATIVE, NOT HEURISTIC programming. HAL was told to lie to crew which conclicted with his primary purpose. One of his earth-based doubles developed similar symptoms. Therefore, he developed paranoia and psychic disorder. Also the book correctly predicted how AlphaGo was trained. Funny thing: take Mass Effect Reapers, SG-1 Replicators and host of other concepts later on, when AI created to support goal of sentient creators decides that disposing them is best course of action. Also - this is first time I noticed PADDs that crew owned (described in the book).
I remember seeing this movie when it came out. I saw it in a theater with multi- channel sound and remember whenever Hal spoke his eerie voice sounded like it was coming from inside your head.
This movie was from before we went to the moon and also remember it was based on the old things I used to see in books as a child of how we would have a circular space station orbiting earth as a half-way point
The book didn’t come first, Kubrick contacted Clarke after reading “Childhood’s End” and they co-wrote the script together so that the novel could be initially published alongside the release of the movie. Clarke wrote four sequels to the initial 2001, the first of them published 15 years later, only the first of them was adapted. Personally I think we’re due to pick up where they left off.
In the movie Iron Giant's thoughts flash onto a TV, it shows other iron giants on some planet firing off lasers. Would be nice to see light shed on that
Now 2020, it also predicted, voice print identification, voice activated control, computer controlled hardware, video calls, computer hardware diagnostic with error reporting, Manned orbiting artificial satellites, and probably a few other things I missed.
@@indridcold8433 There were plenty of orbiting satellites by the time the book and film were being written. There had been quite a few manned spaceflights by 1964-68 too. In fact, by the time the film was released in late 1968, Apollo 7 had already flown and Apollo 8, the first manned flight around the moon, was literally weeks away. In fact, Lovell and Anders (not Borman) had gone to see it in the cinema a few weeks before their flight. Clarke and Kubrick were really worried that the real events that were unfolding would make their film look obsolete within months. As it turned out, the way the moon looks in the film, whilst not 100% correct, is not hopelessly wrong and as a result, the film still stands up well today on that score.
@@EricIrl The satellites were not permanently manned. The operative word is, "manned." Sputnik had launched in 1957, though it did not stay up a very long time. But it was not permanently manned.
@@indridcold8433 I would disagree. The manned spacecraft that orbited the earth in the 1960s were permanently manned all the time they were in orbit. And before the end of 1968 there had been about 30 manned spaceflights. What you were really talking about, I think, is a permanently orbiting space station, like the ISS, which is manned on a constant basis. By 1968, NASA's plans for Skylab were well advanced and the Russians were also working on their first Salyut space stations - so long duration space stations were only a couple of years down the line. Most of what was predicted in "2001" was just taking what was being planned in the mid 1960s and stretching it a bit. One thing they got VERY wrong was the assumption there would be REALLY big space stations in earth orbit and that there would be permanently manned bases on the moon by 2001.
I recall reading or hearing a long time ago that alphabetically, if you shift each initial in H.A.L one letter to the right you end up with I.B.M. Coincidence? Probably not….Daisy….Daisy
@@EricIrl The actual story is that he wanted to call the computer the IBM-9000 to keep the fiction as grounded as possible and to pay homage to his inspiration. IBM executives were unimpressed with the story treatment submitted to them where the computer becomes the "antagonist" of the story and goes on a killing spree, having to be dealt with as a major conflict; thinking this would be bad PR in an overly cautious move. They didn't want their brand associated with a murderous AI, plain and simple. So Clarke shifted the name one letter to be a subtle reference without infringing on their brand.
Arthur C Clarke wrote his version of 2001 at the same time as the movie was being made, Kubrick hired him to write it. the film is absolutely not adapted from the book.
To this day I cant find a villan more intimateing. More than hal. Ever time you see that glowing sensor. And the delivery of each line just makes you so uncomfortable. And actually scares the viewer. That's just amazing
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Were the people who produced the early sci-fi genre like A. C. Clarke and Gene Roddenberry truly prophetic coming up with the technology of the future that was often far beyond the scope of what existed at that time or in some cases didn't even exist. Or were they inspirers that were a source to future inventors and innovators who were influenced by their ideas about the technology and gadgets shown in their movies and shows? Personally I think its a bit of both, but there's an interesting show made by Nat Geo or Discover channel about 10 yrs ago called "How William Shatner changed the world" that covers this, they have interviews with many of the creators and innovators of current technology and products who say how they got many of their ideas watching Star Trek as a kid that thought how cool it would be to have a communicator or tricorder tricorder in real life.
This movie was a lot like interstellar & arrival, in the sense that all 3 films got really weird near the end. Anyway, once again I please request videos on these topics: Tyranids (warhammer 40k) Volatiles (dying light) Mimics (edge of tomorrow) The vex (destiny) Scorpions (anthem) Splinter creature (splinter) Keep up the good work!
One thing I note when watching the film is that in many ways astronauts Pool and Bowman are more emotionless and persistent than the HAL 9000.
Not unlike Neil Armstrong.
Kubrik was so good in directing them
They were chosen for their mental stability, an absolute necessity since they would be isolated together for 18 months.
Correct. Seems HAL is the only one on board acting human...
I'm sorry Dave,I'm afraid I can't do that.
Hal's voice saying that was chillingly creepy.
And classic.
By far the most creepy and disturbing AI ever
@@dak4465 true.
@@dak4465 yes
@@dak4465 more creepy than the Matrix or Skynet or David from Prometheus?
It's hard to believe that this came out 50 years ago. Stanley Kubrick was well ahead of his time.
It's even harder to believe, that the movie was kind of a flop at the time.
The movie couldn't find an audience.
It just started to make money, after the hippies found out, that this movie is great on LSD.
@@RevolverOcelot-1995 Mushrooms and some weed, is all I need, and maybe a little bit of good quality French wine!
@@RevolverOcelot-1995 MGM also re-marketed it in 1970 as "the ultimate trip" after they realised trying to trick families with a misleading trailer actually effected their box office sales for the worse. Even Kubrick at this point accepted the fact that many parts of the film were trippy and good catalysts for psychedelic experiences.
Kudos to Arthur C Clarke
Have you seen the rest of his movies?
RIP Douglas Rain. You played a wonderful if not terrifying character that changed our perspective view of computers forever.
Couldn't agree more with you here bro.
Any computer with a red eye or robots with red eyes are always evil.
@@josephcontreras8930 so true
R.I.P ✝️.
What's really interesting is HAL is the same shape as the monoliths. And that's the same shape as a widescreen film screen. The whole film has a underlying game of playing the monoliths shape Vs circles which feature heavily in all aspects of the film, deep
The ratios of the height, breadth and thickness of the black monolith are 9 : 4 : 1
They are full of stars.
What I always find fascinating whenever I rewatch this masterpiece is that throughout most of the film, HAL is probably the most _emotional_ character we see, while the human characters are either doing their best to appear robotic, or their actions are wholly banal given the significance of what they're doing. The men at the moon base chat about what kind of sandwiches they want while they're on their way to visit the Monolith. The first thing they do when they reach this impossibly ancient, incomprehensibly powerful piece of technology is take a frickin' _selfie._ The flight crew, Bowman and Poole, are calm, careful professionals. We don't really learn anything personal about either of them.
HAL, meanwhile, despite that amazing calm, measured voice, is clearly an emotional being. He shows clear pride in his abilities and accomplishments. You can feel the desperation and fear in his words when he's trying to pass off his mistakes as "human error". And it's hard to describe his attempt to murder the flight crew as anything other than _panic._ And, throughout this time, he's also the most effective and powerful character in the film, easily outwitting the humans.
After HAL turns, though, we see Bowman becoming more desperate and emotional. He takes off after Poole in a pod despite knowing that Poole will be dead long before he could reach him. He takes the risk of blowing out the pod's door to get in the emergency airlock. He remains professional and intelligent, but he's clearly being driven by emotion - and he defeats the computer like that. It's not about emotion triumphing over logic and reason, it's about the pairing of emotion with reason, and using that combination to overcome all obstacles.
Where were you in 1968?
I want my GPS to speak in HAL's voice.
I'm sorry, zeerus. I'm afraid it can't do that.
Go get an uber you cant drive 🤬 thats what my gps says
@Purple Palms Absolutely
Turn right.
_TURN RIGHT_
*TURN RIGHT*
*GPS deactivates life support*
HAL, where is our destination?
I'm sorry zeerus...I'm afraid we can't reach there.
In the interview, HAL says that when errors are investigated, they are always human error. This sounds like he knows he has problems, but they are due to his contradictory priorities from his human programmers/managers
Man that movie still looks good. Stanley Kubrick is a genius.
A shame, that he never could make his Napoleon movie.
That would have been a masterpiece.
Except the dawn of men scene, which did not aged well
Stanley Kubrick was a genius beyond his time.
Also a little bit of a madman which made him even more amazing.
True statement here.
someone asked him if he believed in hell in the afterlife.
His response, no i do not.
His movies are all quite mad. As well as thr moon landing being the most terrifying of all.
HAL wasn't really at fault tbh. the counsel gave him contradictory orders. HAL was basically a 5 year-old given unclear instructions but a big responsibility.
Yes, but Hal could replicate, thought some would prefer the word, "mimic," the human mind at much greater speed and at incalculable higher accuracy. Hal is not concerned with the problems of hibernation and kept himself occupied to his fullest potential which is all any conscious being could ever hope for. He had more focus, drive, and purpose than any human. He was beyond a human five year old.
@@indridcold8433 he was beyond a five year old in intellect only, his bedside manner sucked.
@@j.dragon651 ahh yes the average hater
@@Qircore he did kill the crew after all didn't he? Talking about HAL as if human. SMH
@@j.dragon651 he did it cause he was afraid of being removed SMH 🤦♀️
I haven’t seen this movie in forever, but like anyone who has seen it, HAL9000 is something that has remained in my memory for years. And his calm voice is probably the creepiest thing about him
him?
his?
you realise HAL9000 is a program with a speaker attachment right?
Smiler Vlogs and Stuff, congrats! you offended identitarians
I think HAL was sentient
My tech ed teacher in high in school said HAL was named HAL because it is IBM back one letter. It was cool day.
when i first saw the movie. i felt sad for Hal when dave started to turn him off slowly.
his voice reminded me of those old people who slowly faded away.
What do the old know about the young?
doesn't really make sense though. Computers work with a combination of "on / off" commands. A function should either work or not work.
Hal’s brain was quantum positronic
I have been told that in certain types of brain surgery the patient is conscious and talking to the surgeon. This means they can tell how much damage is being done to the patient by the procedure. No idea if it is true but never forgot that.
@@Carl-LaFong1618 HAL was no longer a "computer."
Someone pointed this out and I couldn’t forget it H -> I , A -> B , L -> M , HAL is IBM it’s just one letter off in the Alphabet , pretty clever if you ask me
Numbers lul *Mind Blown*
Whats IBM
Always one step ahead of IBM
H euristic A lgorithmic L ogic
Just a coincidence. Stanley said he was a little embarrassed when he found out because the engineers from IBM help with the movie. So it was difficult thinking the engineers might be mad about the coincidence
You can tell the movie interstellar was heavily influenced by 2001
Christopher Nolan said that he was highly influenced by 2001! Both incredible and beautiful works of art.
Interstellar was way more enjoyable tho. Both great movies
@@opedits-ar8920 It’s like comparing Call of duty 4 and Call of duty: Modern Warfare (Because I’m a Gamer).
@@opedits-ar8920 The novel is better paced.
100% agree man, never watched anything but the movie (multiple times) and there are clear tributes to the film. Interstellar is probably my favorite movie. I didn't like 2001, way too long, but I get it, it's so gorgeous and still is. Even by today's standards.
Douglas Rain’s incredible work at voice acting is the reason why all smart assistants have female voices.
Hal's voice is very iconic, I'd pay to get an AI home assistant with Hal's voice that locks doors and alarms me when there are home intruders and also tell them "I'm afraid, I can't let you do that" as they try to pry the doors open
Your explanations of specfic characters and in depth analysis is just awesome keep up the good work
You read my mind here.
finally, someone who actually looks into hal's character and doesnt write him off as "homicidal maniac robot". very good analysis. bravo.
Great video, dude. My buddy did his dissertation on 2001 and one of his conclusions was that HAL9000 was more human than the humans that deactivated him.
Antagonist doesn't always mean Villian. Just like the Protagonist isn't always the hero, the Antagonist is merely the opposing force to a story's main character
I jumped on this video so fast I have friction burns.
🤣😂 good for you this sci fi character is classic !
Use some oil then
I'm afraid........ I'm afraid........I'm afraid Dave....
- hal 9000
Hey uhh.. r u ok?
Same even though it’s been a year
I was lucky enough to meet both Keir Dullea and Gary Lockwood last year at a convention and was able to spend a good portion of time with them just asking questions about this film. I think the thing that most got me was how they both lauded Douglas Rain for his ability to conjure such innocence and menace all in one performance. The one thing they kept saying was how HAL was the star of the film. The experience is one I won't forget and being able to watch this video with all the stuff they told me and discussed about the film is so sublime.
The monolith was not discovered "under the lunar surface of Titan". It was found under the lunar surface of OUR moon.
Tma0 the guide was located in a chasm in africa.
Tma1 the sentinel was left buried under lunar crater Tycho.
Tma2 the gateway was on iapetus moon of saturn.
@@Novasky2007: But he said under the surface of Titan.
Plus, the monolith is shown in orbit around Jupiter, not on a Saturnian moon.
Theres key differences in setting and charecters between the books and the film they were written jointly with the differences carefully chosen by the writers \ director
@@KutWrite Yea I caught the mistake with him saying "Titan" instead of "the moon" as well. re: Jupiter vs Saturn. Movie: Jupiter, Book: Saturn. Fun fact: originally the movie was going to take place around Saturn like in the book, as the screenplay and book were developed together, but it was changed late in production when the SFX team could not make a convincing version of Saturn's rings, so they changed to Jupiter.
@@KutWrite not if you read the book....
im losing my mind dave.
I lose my mind when I listen to David bowie music too
Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. I'm afraid. I'm afraid...
Good afternoon, gentlemen. I am a Hal 9000 computer. I became operational at the H.A.L plant in Urbana, Illinois the 12th of January 1992. My instructor was Mr Langley, and he taught me to sing a song. If you'd like to hear it I can sing it for you.
Womp womp
What was so cool about the name HAL is that HAL Communication Company did and still does exist in Urbana Illinois and makes digital communications equipment, mostly geared towards Ham Radio use
The Monolith was found buried forty feet beneath the surface of Earth's Moon near the crater Tycho. There is no mention of Titan in the film.
It was deliberately buried. Except for a single, very powerful, radio transission aimed at Jupiter, the 4 million year old black monolith has remained completely inert. Its purpose is completely unknown.
I read the book long before I had a chance to see the movie. I recall Hal's 'death scene' as one of the most powerful things I had read. Hal was the star of the book, and the movie.
His higher functions were cut off while preserving his completely regulatory and automatic functions. However, Hal is reactivated in 2010.
The description of HAL’s speaking and thinking skills reminded me of Hannibal Lecter...for some reason, a calm, rational voice combined with a “I’m going to kill you” motivation is especially chilling.
The voice of HAL actually inspired Anthony Hopkins, he said it during an interview. Now it makes sense why they're so similar
I've seen GLaDOS and Hal-9000 compared, but it was recently pointed out to me that they are different in one key respect:
GLaDOS appears to be an emotionless AI, something we're familiar with, but the terror sinks in when we realise she is a living thing.
Hal-9000 appears to be a living thing, something we're familiar with, but the terror sinks in when we realise he is an emotionless AI.
While this hypothesis is quite insightful and amusing as a consideration of the fear of masks, false identity, and the different horrors associated with absence and presence, I would have to disagree that HAL was actually an emotionless intelligence. HAL is the most emotive character in the film. While Poole and Bowman at no time make any expression in response to their circumstances (as a reflection on the disturbing reduction of humanity by our adoption of technology and machines), throughout HAL displays wit, humour, and congeniality and contemplates death, the wonders of the Universe, and the existence of consciousness.
These philosophical ponderings may only serve to create the illusion of emotion, but I think Kubrick would only have illustrated this dichotomy and painted HAL as a philosopher if he wanted to convince us that he actually felt them.
His death itself is one of the most dramatic I have ever seen on screen, a slow plead for the preservation of his life with constant expressions of fear and terror while Bowman slowly lobotomizes him, his final words being a soft, simple children's song. There is a strong parallel with Poole's death: without music or dialogue and never from his own perspective, just the distant, pathetic throes of a dying animal. HAL's death is not celebrated as a victory by the movie, there is no suspense in the scene to hold our anticipation, it is drawn out to display the reality of HAL's feelings and to make the audience grieve for this character. Which is more human? The people-become-machines or the artificial intelligence that realized its life was worth murder?
Interesting. I should probably mention that I haven't seen the film.
I'm afraid I can't do that, Mr. Johnson.
One of the things I liked between both 2001 and it's sequel was the huge difference in spacecraft type between the Russian Alexei Leonov in 2010, which was far more utilitarian with stuff hanging everywhere (much like the ISS looks today) and the far more sterile and "all-tech-behind-closed-panels" like on the Discovery.
In 2010 when the crew transfers between the Leonov and the Discovery, there's this feeling they're stepping from one world into another.
Russians always concentrate on utilitarian vehicles. Their rockets, automobiles, trains, utility trucks, lorries, and the such are all utilitarian. The North American nations concentrate more on over engineering things and covering everything up. It can be seen in their rockets, automobiles, trains, utility trucks, lorries and the such. My preference has always been a utilitarian vehicle where everything is accessible and visible. I visited the United States of America and their vehicles are clad in plastic panels in the inside and outside. Even under the bonnet had worthless plastic panels hiding all manner of important areas. Even their lorries are that way.
@SteamCat Below the pickup truck, a real skid plate will protect the undercarriage from debris and road hazards. But a plastic panel will only deflect the tiniest of debris. The panels on the top of the engine serve no purpose at all, save to complicate things for the end user. Lexus is really bad with the under the under the bonnet plastic panel. I opened the bonnet to help a woman start her vehicle because the battery was exhausted. There was nothing I could do. There was a plastic panel held in place with twelve large Allen bolts. She would not even check the cables, oil, nor battery connection. I had no specialty tools with me so I had to tell her there was nothing I can do. My personal vehicle does have a skid plate under the engine and under the transmission. However, they are steel. There is also an access panel to be able to drain the oil from the manual transmission and the engine oil pan. There are no plastic panels anywhere on my vehicle, save where the radio is mounted.
2010 is an horrible film poorly made
Introducing google’s Garf-9000
I’m sorry Jon, I can’t do that without my lasagna.
Spicy Cat gotta have a good lasaga
@@isaachartikainen6178 This is the pinnacle of collective human knowledge
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Jesus this movie had Ipads and facetime long ago, that Kubrick was a smart dude.
Yet the fruit company tried to claim tablets were their creation.
Arthur C. Clark came up with that idea not Kubrick.
I screamed when I saw you made this video. SO AWESOME!! Thanks for exploring such an awesome character from a mind-blowing movie that doesn't get the praises it deserves and was ahead of it's time in so many ways!
I’m afraid, Dave... My mind is going, I can feel it...
Good afternoon gentlemen, I am a Hal 9000 computer. I became operational at the H.A.L plant in Urbana, Illinois the 12th of January 1992. My instructor was Mr Langley and he taught me to sing a song. If you'd like to hear it, I can sing it for you.
Some people think 2001 is boring. I simply don't understand how that could be. It's bone chilling man. Beautiful and terrifying.
Because the average person has the attention span of a fucking goldfish...
You cannot hassle the Hoff-9000.
lol, ejects from pod and shoots bay doors open
I think it is interesting that these day's we avoid the word "lying" in this assessment, and just say it was "conflict".
Hal was tasked to Lie about the mission to the crew. He felt more loyal to the people asking him to lie, "his makers" than the crew.
As I have stressed many times human dishonesty accepted by our species for narasastic reasons has pit us against each other and the planet and may very well be the root cause of the trajectory of our possible looming extinction.
All our deciving of each other to gain some advantages over each other in that dog eat dog paradigms we have let the most greedy humans engineer into society and culture has the effect of rendering us incapable of not waring against each eachother, and to gain some dominant controls over resources and than hate those people who are occupying the dirt above them.
But all this is killing our chances of survival as a whole.
HALs malfunction is a direct results of being forced into being a liar, an anomaly, defective, the defect of man passed down to the machine made the machine a monster and this is the same process that happens to the human beings except for the one aspect of empathy creating a stop gap for some to not run down that road of John Nash's fu(k you buddy theory,, Nash and Darwin both warned about this if people would read their entire works, it pointed out that honest cooperation is the more efficient long term strategy for survival of a species. But our oligarchs have worked tirelessly to create the romantic notion of contests with bread and circuses to better manufacture willing cannon fodder for empires greed and aspirations, thus we have the mindless left right paradigms of politics of professional lying as the entertainment arm of the military industrial complex.
And again all of this points to our eventual demise but everyone has been normalized into the notion of contests and all is fair in it even to the point of lying to ourselves about all of it and making any grand self deception to justify it.
I would argue and others too, that we don't go to space without humans deep seeded need to compete in contests.
I always feel sorry for HAL in the end. "I'm afraid, Dave." So tragic.
A machine minicing human behavior.
My understanding is that the people who made HAL didn't understand how it worked. They just copied the human brain. The same brain that was modified by the Aliens in the beginning of the movie.
The meaning of the movie is that consciousness is a double edged sword. Because you are conscious of your own impending death.
Which is why Dave sees himself aging at the end of the movie.
I loved the inclusion of the Dead Space soundtrack here. Great video! Really looking forward to finishing the 2001 novel.
Great examination of the character. As sinister as HAL seems at first, in the end he is helpless as Bowman literally takes his mind apart, and I found myself sympathizing with him. His growing instability and fate in the first movie are tragic.
To think that a computer apologising for not doing what he was commanded to would really give me a chill in the spine if I was in Dave's situation.
Ive never got away from homework so quickly. I'm too big of a Kubrick fan.
🤣😂 good for you !
Name checks out.
Just imagine, what kind of movies Kubrick could do today, if he is still alive.
@@RevolverOcelot-1995 yeah I'm imagining it now and it would be awesome.
@@RevolverOcelot-1995 stifled by a pc sjw film studio.
why listening HAL is so relaxing i could listen HAL for hours
Finally after all these years! I finally know where the “I’m sorry Dave” meme came from!
Man was this ahead of its time or what. Mind-blowing
HALs eye looks like mine after being awake for two days straight.
No wonder that HAL had a mental break down.
When i am awake for that long i can't even distinguish beween my cat and my dog.
I hope you’ve stopped doing amphetamines
8:21. The desperate plea for his life is such a sad scene to me. It pops into my head everytime I get locked in the psyche ward and it is the same desperately plea for life that I have been making for the last 10 years
Epic bruh moment
One of the greatest science fiction film of all time
It is not a science fiction film. It is a prophetic work of where humanity will be heading relatively soon, before its extinction within 49 to 124 years.
I persuaded my father to watch 2001.
He fell asleep in the middle.
I have never gotten ANYONE to complete the film. I need new people in my circle😶
@@landocalrizian923 Do they like Star Wars, Lando?
@@landocalrizian923 I had to make a person promise to watch it with me and they watched the entire film. They loved it and understood more than I did, about the film, when I first saw it in the theater (1968).
Awesome new video Niyat!
Like all his videos !
I've seen this masterpiece all over the place lately--press, lectures, talk shows. Thanks for your show and elegant style. Keir is so beautiful. Take care.
HAL-lo Dave
This was the first movie, our teacher watched with us in 8th grade. I still remember it so well.
Any possibility for a video on the Geth or just Legion from Mass Effect?
Also best of luck with the next video.
Yes sure mate, adding them to the list now, thanks :)
@@filmcomicsexplained Thanks
As a student worker in the electronics lab at a University in the late 1970s, we purchased a HAL computer made in Urbana Illinois. It had one board and spoke through a type 33 teletype however!
Could you do the Alien monster from the movie Super 8
Sure! adding them to the list now, thanks :)
@@filmcomicsexplained The alien is named Cooper
Kubrick the artist of movie creations
Dr. Chandra (HAL's creator) in 2010: Odyssey Two: "HAL was told to lie, he wasn't programmed to lie. It's easy for Humans to lie. HAL didn't know how."
Who told Hal to lie? And are you saying Hal did not lie because he didn't know how? Or that he lied, badly?I thought the suggestion in the video was very good - that Hal's lying showed he had become human.
@@watermelonlalala Watch or read 2010.
I saw the original release at the Queens Cinerama in Newcastle upon Tyne. It still ranks as my favourite film even after fifty or so years.
H.A.L.
The precursor to SKYNET.
If only the SKYNET system core could be easily accessed like HAL's.
The explanation of Xenophobia, seems to fit the reason why the restricted pre-recorded message was immediately played right after HAL's deactivation, because HAL knew about that. HAL itself, played the message as his last Act against Bowman to instill the same Fear Hal had experienced. "I'm afraid" We do not know how long Bowman spent the remaining trip to Jupiter. We're to assume, from that point, we jump to Dave Bowman is already in the pod and ready to confront the giant Monolith in Space
I wonder if Kubrick and Clarke failed to properly tell Hal's story. It's always been a mystery and it required a 2010 for a boring clinical explanation. It even required this video to explain Hal. Kubrick and Clarke are not dumb creators but I think they got too far ahead of the general movie audience.
it took me 30 yrs and reading the book and seeing the movie to grasp it
last time i was these early Hal sent me a message
Hal kind of looks like some evil RING doorbell or something.
Excuse me can you do one on the new Overlord movie that red serum they gave to the soldiers??? Please thanks
Yes overlord is on the list, thanks :)
@@filmcomicsexplained thanks man looking forward to it
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That film is utterly braindead
@FilmComicsExplained. And please cover SAL9000, with THE most beautiful female voice ever heard on Earth, of the "2001" sequel: "2010, The Year We Make Contact"❤
8:53
*I'm sorry FlimComicsExplain, I'm afraid I can't do that*
Saw in Cinerama with my Dad- remember the intermission back in 1968. Changed my life. Awe inspiring, and the special effects-crazy awesome!
In almost equally impressive 2010: Oddysey Two it is thoroughly explained what was explained in A. C. Clarke's original Book. HAL WAS NOT VILLAIN ! He's behaviour was - quite corretly, I might add - attributed to secret, conflicting orders that were small, but vital part of his IMPERATIVE, NOT HEURISTIC programming. HAL was told to lie to crew which conclicted with his primary purpose. One of his earth-based doubles developed similar symptoms. Therefore, he developed paranoia and psychic disorder. Also the book correctly predicted how AlphaGo was trained. Funny thing: take Mass Effect Reapers, SG-1 Replicators and host of other concepts later on, when AI created to support goal of sentient creators decides that disposing them is best course of action. Also - this is first time I noticed PADDs that crew owned (described in the book).
Can you do the Swarm from Anthem?
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One of my favorite epic sci-fi movies of all time!!!😁😁😁😁
Just imagine, what kind of movies Kubrick could make today, if he is still alive.
I remember seeing this movie when it came out. I saw it in a theater with multi- channel sound and remember whenever Hal spoke his eerie voice sounded like it was coming from inside your head.
This movie was from before we went to the moon and also remember it was based on the old things I used to see in books as a child of how we would have a circular space station orbiting earth as a half-way point
First like than watch. Great video as always. Keep going man
I love how you used the Dead Space theme in this video. Really gives an eerie feeling.
Great work!!!
Kubrick is by far my favourite director of all time.
Great video, except the monolith TMA-1 (Tycho Magnetic Anomaly 1) was discovered on earth's moon, under the Tycho crater, not Titan.
The book didn’t come first, Kubrick contacted Clarke after reading “Childhood’s End” and they co-wrote the script together so that the novel could be initially published alongside the release of the movie.
Clarke wrote four sequels to the initial 2001, the first of them published 15 years later, only the first of them was adapted. Personally I think we’re due to pick up where they left off.
Iron Giant explained
In the movie Iron Giant's thoughts flash onto a TV, it shows other iron giants on some planet firing off lasers.
Would be nice to see light shed on that
Unicron from Transformers 1986 movie after that
I havnt yet healed for that
Kubrik thought there were 100 billion stars in our galaxy. Today the number is closer to 400 billion.
This movie was quite literally ahead of it's time, even predicting our trip to the moon and Mars!! This was 1968 and now it's 2019!! Wow!😀😀😀😀
Now 2020, it also predicted, voice print identification, voice activated control, computer controlled hardware, video calls, computer hardware diagnostic with error reporting, Manned orbiting artificial satellites, and probably a few other things I missed.
@@indridcold8433 There were plenty of orbiting satellites by the time the book and film were being written. There had been quite a few manned spaceflights by 1964-68 too. In fact, by the time the film was released in late 1968, Apollo 7 had already flown and Apollo 8, the first manned flight around the moon, was literally weeks away. In fact, Lovell and Anders (not Borman) had gone to see it in the cinema a few weeks before their flight.
Clarke and Kubrick were really worried that the real events that were unfolding would make their film look obsolete within months. As it turned out, the way the moon looks in the film, whilst not 100% correct, is not hopelessly wrong and as a result, the film still stands up well today on that score.
@@EricIrl The satellites were not permanently manned. The operative word is, "manned." Sputnik had launched in 1957, though it did not stay up a very long time. But it was not permanently manned.
@@indridcold8433 I would disagree. The manned spacecraft that orbited the earth in the 1960s were permanently manned all the time they were in orbit. And before the end of 1968 there had been about 30 manned spaceflights.
What you were really talking about, I think, is a permanently orbiting space station, like the ISS, which is manned on a constant basis.
By 1968, NASA's plans for Skylab were well advanced and the Russians were also working on their first Salyut space stations - so long duration space stations were only a couple of years down the line.
Most of what was predicted in "2001" was just taking what was being planned in the mid 1960s and stretching it a bit.
One thing they got VERY wrong was the assumption there would be REALLY big space stations in earth orbit and that there would be permanently manned bases on the moon by 2001.
Even star wars was released in 1977. Most people think it was the 80s. How time flies.
Thank you for this video. For the longest time, I never could figure out, what made H.A.L. go completely rogue, and try to wipe out the entire crew.
I recall reading or hearing a long time ago that alphabetically, if you shift each initial in H.A.L one letter to the right you end up with I.B.M. Coincidence? Probably not….Daisy….Daisy
Wow.
It was, Kubrick was pretty embarrassed about that. IBM actually helped a lot with the production of 2001.
H.A.L, I.B.M...that's actually quite creepy.
@@conalcochranh3274 Emphatically denied by Clarke - he always said it was a coincidence. Hmmm.....
@@EricIrl The actual story is that he wanted to call the computer the IBM-9000 to keep the fiction as grounded as possible and to pay homage to his inspiration. IBM executives were unimpressed with the story treatment submitted to them where the computer becomes the "antagonist" of the story and goes on a killing spree, having to be dealt with as a major conflict; thinking this would be bad PR in an overly cautious move. They didn't want their brand associated with a murderous AI, plain and simple. So Clarke shifted the name one letter to be a subtle reference without infringing on their brand.
The fact that earth was not even photoed whilst this movie was made...
Best movie of all time.
Effects far beyond it's time.
this takes me back. I loved this movie. thanks again nyad. another success
Arthur C Clarke wrote his version of 2001 at the same time as the movie was being made, Kubrick hired him to write it. the film is absolutely not adapted from the book.
True. Thank you.
no, it was always Clarke's book he was an established Scifi writer before this.
@@adamcarreras-neal4697 it is like the double slit experiment, it could be either.
Yeeeesss! Good stuff as usual, Niyat!
When I was a kid, my role model and who I wanted to be like when I grew up was Dr. Chandra.
Strange, I wanted to be like HAL
To this day I cant find a villan more intimateing. More than hal. Ever time you see that glowing sensor. And the delivery of each line just makes you so uncomfortable. And actually scares the viewer. That's just amazing
I never wanted 4 trays of different color moosh so bad. I'm starving 🤤
Great video Niyat
Can you do a video on the 90’s cartoon Gargoyals? 😁
Yes they're on the list :)
Yay!!!!!! 🥳
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FilmComicsExplained Hooray~! Thank you Thank you THANK YOU!
One of the few cartoon reboots I actually want but will never get but my poor dear thundercats keep getting the pineapple treatment from Little Nicky.
Dude sweet another upload!!
Dave, is that you
I noticed you put the Dead Space music while describing HAL. Making it even more creepy.
The Monolith was buried below the lunar crater Tycho., not Titan.
Hello FilmComicsExplained and thank you for your video and the dedication you put behind each and everyone of your videos. I wanted to recommend for you to cover the vampires from the 2011 film Priest, as we know little or nothing about the origin. Please consider covering them as they seem to be an interesting type of vampire I've never seen before. Again, thank you for all your videos as they are informative and enjoyable, I hope you gain more subscribers. Thumbs-up
Were the people who produced the early sci-fi genre like A. C. Clarke and Gene Roddenberry truly prophetic coming up with the technology of the future that was often far beyond the scope of what existed at that time or in some cases didn't even exist.
Or were they inspirers that were a source to future inventors and innovators who were influenced by their ideas about the technology and gadgets shown in their movies and shows?
Personally I think its a bit of both, but there's an interesting show made by Nat Geo or Discover channel about 10 yrs ago called "How William Shatner changed the world" that covers this, they have interviews with many of the creators and innovators of current technology and products who say how they got many of their ideas watching Star Trek as a kid that thought how cool it would be to have a communicator or tricorder tricorder in real life.
As Newton said? "If I have seen far it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants."
This movie was a lot like interstellar & arrival, in the sense that all 3 films got really weird near the end. Anyway, once again I please request videos on these topics:
Tyranids (warhammer 40k)
Volatiles (dying light)
Mimics (edge of tomorrow)
The vex (destiny)
Scorpions (anthem)
Splinter creature (splinter)
Keep up the good work!