Skarner is good in organised play. This is a soloQ tierlist. Outside very specific counterpick scenarios picking an engage tank with 0 damage in SoloQ is just asking for trouble. For the sake of SoloQ Rammus and Mumu are just significantly more reliable (and for supp Leona literally exists). I play him in Flex and he's incredibly fun there tho.
I love how everyone complains when there’s ADCs anywhere but bot lane. But when mages dominate bot lane riot doesn’t say or do anything and no one complains. Make that make sense
@@drinkswatere what adc actually outplays any over tuned top laner other than vayne and teemoo? Literally none because as soon as the melee top laner hits lvl 6 or lands any form of cc the adc is dead
@@danielpritchard510 7 out of the top 8 bot lane picks out of all ranks are mages with the HIGHEST percent win rates. Congrats miss fortune and cait have ridiculous win rates and pick rates. I guess for every other adc champ we are just fkd then.
@ not in the support role LMAO. Velkoz mid i can respect, velkoz support, absolutely not. And it’s not even because i lose to it, i win most lanes against velkoz supps. It’s just super annoying
Warwick is almost certainly weaker than before 14.24. They reverted most of the W buff. He loses more solo fights early because of the Q cd increase. And his win rate is still falling.
@giordanoremy4699 No it does not. His clear speed is slower from the Q nerfs. He can barely full clear before scuttle. That’s ridiculously bad for a jungler. His play rate is also falling.
looool he had 56%WR in jungle 3 days ago dude wtf ? I NEVER see a WW loose in my games since this buff. In my team or in ennemy team. + its the only champ who are in top tier in two lane ( Jungle and top )
Lmao. Warwick can’t remain OP tier after Q nerf and W reverted. You guys had him A tier before this patch and he basically went back to being the way he was.
well, his W attack speed is still 0,5 (0,75 -> 1,25) seconds longer than normal, he still has the Qol changes that the first hit on a target already starts with high attack speed (if already low) and the attack that gets the enemy beneath the hp value needed already has the attackspeed. Q is adjusted in multiple directions, nothing reverted, this is not "back to being the way he was". But yea OP tier is not the right call now that the nerfs hit
@@tigrad5555 i knew something was wrong when i saw 2.5 -> 1.25 when they only buffed it to 2.0, but i didnt know they made a mistake on both numbers...
Warwick being in the OP tier solo, 1st spot on Low AND High Elo bans + Skarner not on the list AT ALL should tell you everything you need to know about how hard Riot is dropping the ball right now 💀
The thing you said about Viktor R not stopping Vel Koz R is not true. The ult indeed still stops channels on cast as it should... but hey what could Ezreal know about how Viktors kit works.
Velkoz should take small amount of dmg while Absorbing people with his beam.. now that I saw how little he did to a person under turret.. it also make sense lore vise...
viktor being so strong is so weird they changed so little other than the hexcore change,15 extra shield on q and some mana cost reductions shouldnt do that much
Not sure Vel mid is S tier, so many matchups are awful. I've been finding a ton of success playing velkoz APC, 64% over 110 games. Vel outranges and outpushes almost every ADC in the game and lost chapter is better than any ADC item in the game. All that's required is a cc support and the lane is easy for him
for S tier to truly be a S tier there should not be more than 4 or 5 champions, OP is redundant and nothing below c tier is weird. OP should be S and K'sante should be an example of a D tier lol
People in low elo doesn't know how to play with braum and his passive. I know cause I main him and it's really hard to climb when you rely on your team.
ÍDK who told them that Viktor R doesn´t inturrpt channels anymore but they lied. It still very much does, it´s on the abilities HUB, it´s on the Wiki and i played 6 games of Vel Koz Vs Viktor and can confirm it so maybe look inot things better
Wow the best ADCs are all mages? How could this happen? Its almost like the designers balance marksman around marksman without consideration for who they are supposed to fight.
Depending on the champ you play, you could either don't care about the pick, or pray you don't ever see a good one. Imo depending on your pick against it, it can quickly turn pretty cringe.
Played vs one on Thurs. They go D shield and phase rush with 2nd wind. Max E first and never engage. They one shot minions with E max then roam. Easy to lane against, but the jgler hates it.
Malphite support inthe C tier? I have never seen in the last month any Malphites not doing great. His R that can delete any adc or enchanter is just dumb and easy
I main adc, and honestly, it is the worst experience. Tanks absilutley dominate now. Everyone builds heart steal now. Tham kench can 1 v 5 teams. Tank items are the strongest they have ever been, yet there is like one % health damage item for adcs to choose ( botrk ) and you have have one armor pen item. Playing solo Q is almost impossible as an adc because unless you have god like peel, you are decimated by voli bears, tham, mundo, garen, etc... I really they they need to give adcs more items that focus on taking down tanks, because they are supposed to be the main dps and this meta adcs are deleted by almost everyone. Ap mages, tanks, bruisers, supps. Everyone can beat an adc now. ( unless the adc is fed ). Just feels there are so many options for every other role, but adc you have like one for tanks.
wish league was flexible like dota, so sick of playing how riot wants us to play, the moment champs like ww becomes somewhat popular they gets nerfed, MODERN league is so boring
ww top is waste of power , ww is not good top loosing against most of the fighters , ww jungle is good but not as op as wu or viego , especially that viego is absolute best pick vs ww . Viktor is not even close to op more likely a C tier champion he cant lane against any other range mage VEL`KOZ MALZA XERATH HWEI NEEKO ZOE ARE MORE OP THAN VIKTOR also any other long range adc ... Viktor win rate increase just because is been played a lot after rework and his win rate is been inflated by jangler not as a solo carry he can win 1v1 only against mele. ADC is no longer a position try mage bot i do it for many seasons and it work very good , especially vel`koz with a nautilus or leona. AND VEL`KOZ IS NOT SUPPORT > this champion deliver more true damage into a game than any other champions regular damage in 2 games so stop playing vel`koz support it need gold to get ahead quick especially his core 2 items , by putting him into support position you just denied his power. NO challenger will like you to climb, all the players are afraid of being challenged so what they say is just to obstruct you from climb if you find a secret you wont be telling to anybody , this channel is doing this for money not to help you climb. Make your own style what work for me doesn't work for you.
ww ok, but poppy... you just have to not stand near walls, and pick a supp that can cancel her E, like thresh, janna, soraka, .. She isn't unstoppable while using E... There are ADC like Ezreal, or Vayne, which can easily stop poppy from ever approching them. Her E has a long cooldown, so it's not that bad. The champ has been strong support for many years now, just learn how it works, because it will not leave support, her kit is just too strong for the role, and no amount of stat adjustment can make her any less strong without killing her completely as Jgl, Mid or Top. ADCs just have to play around ennemy champions like supports, toplaners and midlaners do, that's it. If you see a blitzcrank, you expect an invade. If you see Leona, you are very careful lvl 3, if you see Soraka, you take anti heal/ignite (if you are agressive), etc... Also, you have a ban button, if you want to play an ADC or supp that is weak against Poppy... The champ is very strong, I'm not saying otherwise, but it does have a lot of counters, and hence the game being unplayable is mostly a skill issue.
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u guys forgot skarner in the jg tierlist again
Skarner, mi beloved, they took you out even from the support role. They don't believe in your existence anymore 😭
Skarner is good in organised play. This is a soloQ tierlist.
Outside very specific counterpick scenarios picking an engage tank with 0 damage in SoloQ is just asking for trouble. For the sake of SoloQ Rammus and Mumu are just significantly more reliable (and for supp Leona literally exists).
I play him in Flex and he's incredibly fun there tho.
Skarner is removed form the tier list forever? 💀
Where is my boy Skarner? He fell off the jungle tier list completely
Yeah wtf where is he?
He is now on a better place.
Skarner? I barely know her!
He really only has decent winrates in diamond+, and most of the channels viewers are likely below that rank.
he just not good for solo carry and u apparently need a team 😔
I love how everyone complains when there’s ADCs anywhere but bot lane. But when mages dominate bot lane riot doesn’t say or do anything and no one complains. Make that make sense
They don't dominate check the playrates bot laners just need to learn
All I heard this last couple of patches was people complaining about mages botlane. Idk where you got that idea
@@drinkswatere what adc actually outplays any over tuned top laner other than vayne and teemoo? Literally none because as soon as the melee top laner hits lvl 6 or lands any form of cc the adc is dead
@@danielpritchard510 7 out of the top 8 bot lane picks out of all ranks are mages with the HIGHEST percent win rates. Congrats miss fortune and cait have ridiculous win rates and pick rates. I guess for every other adc champ we are just fkd then.
@@ImKioto97 it’s nowhere near as much as the groanings were when adcs were in mid and smolder top
If i see one more velkoz supp imma go crazy
why ?
@ takes no skill, just annoyinh in lane
@Stanzbey69 ita literally all skillshots
@@Stanzbey69velkoz definitely takes skill lil bro ur just bad
@ not in the support role LMAO. Velkoz mid i can respect, velkoz support, absolutely not. And it’s not even because i lose to it, i win most lanes against velkoz supps. It’s just super annoying
Warwick is almost certainly weaker than before 14.24. They reverted most of the W buff. He loses more solo fights early because of the Q cd increase. And his win rate is still falling.
his win rate is falling because he's gaining in popularity, the W buff makes it OP jgl
@giordanoremy4699 No it does not. His clear speed is slower from the Q nerfs. He can barely full clear before scuttle. That’s ridiculously bad for a jungler. His play rate is also falling.
@tigrad5555 he can barely clear before scuttle? Even before the changes I was regularly getting 3:20-3:25 full clear with out a leash
@@giordanoremy4699the W buff has been reverted
looool he had 56%WR in jungle 3 days ago dude wtf ? I NEVER see a WW loose in my games since this buff. In my team or in ennemy team. + its the only champ who are in top tier in two lane ( Jungle and top )
Ambessa so low on tier list is absolutely criminal. Nerfs made her go from OMEGA broken to "just" OP.
Lmao. Warwick can’t remain OP tier after Q nerf and W reverted. You guys had him A tier before this patch and he basically went back to being the way he was.
well, his W attack speed is still 0,5 (0,75 -> 1,25) seconds longer than normal, he still has the Qol changes that the first hit on a target already starts with high attack speed (if already low) and the attack that gets the enemy beneath the hp value needed already has the attackspeed. Q is adjusted in multiple directions, nothing reverted, this is not "back to being the way he was".
But yea OP tier is not the right call now that the nerfs hit
WW is s tier on Korean soloq in all ranks on top lane
@moawik4864 Patch notes are wrong. W linger was 1 second in 14.23. So it’s only 0.25s longer.
@@tigrad5555 i knew something was wrong when i saw 2.5 -> 1.25 when they only buffed it to 2.0, but i didnt know they made a mistake on both numbers...
@ but Q nerf in addition
I'm not sure if it just says it in the patch notes, but viktor's ult still silences when it's first casted
Viktor R still cancels channels
i was just wondering about that since the patchnotes didnt mention that being changed. you are sure?
@ been playing him non stop, it still cancels.
Everything is just better with the new viktor. With except of his visual, identity and soul.
Warwick being in the OP tier solo, 1st spot on Low AND High Elo bans + Skarner not on the list AT ALL should tell you everything you need to know about how hard Riot is dropping the ball right now 💀
i feel like all the champs that was in arcane had there shine besides my my sweaty main vi lol
9:21 tf is going on with Yuumi in this clip?
Always happens on yuumi in replay.
The thing you said about Viktor R not stopping Vel Koz R is not true. The ult indeed still stops channels on cast as it should... but hey what could Ezreal know about how Viktors kit works.
I mentioned in your last video Ambessa needed to be B tier as shes been NERFED. Glad to see other people agree
Velkoz should take small amount of dmg while Absorbing people with his beam.. now that I saw how little he did to a person under turret.. it also make sense lore vise...
viktor being so strong is so weird they changed so little other than the hexcore change,15 extra shield on q and some mana cost reductions shouldnt do that much
Not sure Vel mid is S tier, so many matchups are awful. I've been finding a ton of success playing velkoz APC, 64% over 110 games. Vel outranges and outpushes almost every ADC in the game and lost chapter is better than any ADC item in the game. All that's required is a cc support and the lane is easy for him
for S tier to truly be a S tier there should not be more than 4 or 5 champions, OP is redundant and nothing below c tier is weird. OP should be S and K'sante should be an example of a D tier lol
Viego not being op tier in jungle is wild.
Viktor ADC is through theroof right now andthere is no adc that can reasonably 1v1 him after heclears wave
People in low elo doesn't know how to play with braum and his passive. I know cause I main him and it's really hard to climb when you rely on your team.
ÍDK who told them that Viktor R doesn´t inturrpt channels anymore but they lied. It still very much does, it´s on the abilities HUB, it´s on the Wiki and i played 6 games of Vel Koz Vs Viktor and can confirm it so maybe look inot things better
Wow the best ADCs are all mages?
How could this happen?
Its almost like the designers balance marksman around marksman without consideration for who they are supposed to fight.
Ngl I’ve never seen a garen mid in my life. 6:20
Depending on the champ you play, you could either don't care about the pick, or pray you don't ever see a good one. Imo depending on your pick against it, it can quickly turn pretty cringe.
Played vs one on Thurs. They go D shield and phase rush with 2nd wind. Max E first and never engage. They one shot minions with E max then roam. Easy to lane against, but the jgler hates it.
low elo in my country is fill with low skill yas/yone/zed/talon so garen is a fav pick against those
How come Skarner is considered S+ on other sites but yours doesn't even have him in jungle?
Not even going to mention Viktors 56% winrate in botlane?
Vik still cancels channels
Smolder is very strong after 14.23 why c tier i dont understand
Wow that rumble ult
Malphite support inthe C tier? I have never seen in the last month any Malphites not doing great. His R that can delete any adc or enchanter is just dumb and easy
ww and viktor op? its that damn shimmer`
My glorious king rengar perma c teir in these lists
viktors R does stop channels
please nerf viktor , seeing his hidious vgu alone is bad enough
Glad yi didn’t move anywhere, screw that champ in meta
I main adc, and honestly, it is the worst experience. Tanks absilutley dominate now. Everyone builds heart steal now. Tham kench can 1 v 5 teams. Tank items are the strongest they have ever been, yet there is like one % health damage item for adcs to choose ( botrk ) and you have have one armor pen item. Playing solo Q is almost impossible as an adc because unless you have god like peel, you are decimated by voli bears, tham, mundo, garen, etc...
I really they they need to give adcs more items that focus on taking down tanks, because they are supposed to be the main dps and this meta adcs are deleted by almost everyone.
Ap mages, tanks, bruisers, supps. Everyone can beat an adc now. ( unless the adc is fed ). Just feels there are so many options for every other role, but adc you have like one for tanks.
How is Volibear B tear wtf
How cringe is that no skarner in jungle tier list?
aint no tier-list gonna help u when ur teammates feed 0/5 minute 10
carry harder
@@dylanclevelandsthu with ur childish unrealistic nonsense
@@dylancleveland yeah man sure I'll click my mouse harder to win and stop my teammates from dying
Why is garen S tier on mid lane?
wish league was flexible like dota, so sick of playing how riot wants us to play, the moment champs like ww becomes somewhat popular they gets nerfed, MODERN league is so boring
arcane buffs. yikes this riot.
Lux for low elo adc? What?
topside is so arcane
2:51 k'sante weak xdddd
i think you should add sion mid as a champ he got good wave clrear great roams and high damage and good range
VIKTOOOR
VIKTOR
Ksante C tier lol
ww top is waste of power , ww is not good top loosing against most of the fighters , ww jungle is good but not as op as wu or viego , especially that viego is absolute best pick vs ww .
Viktor is not even close to op more likely a C tier champion he cant lane against any other range mage VEL`KOZ MALZA XERATH HWEI NEEKO ZOE ARE MORE OP THAN VIKTOR also any other long range adc ... Viktor win rate increase just because is been played a lot after rework and his win rate is been inflated by jangler not as a solo carry he can win 1v1 only against mele. ADC is no longer a position try mage bot i do it for many seasons and it work very good , especially vel`koz with a nautilus or leona. AND VEL`KOZ IS NOT SUPPORT > this champion deliver more true damage into a game than any other champions regular damage in 2 games so stop playing vel`koz support it need gold to get ahead quick especially his core 2 items , by putting him into support position you just denied his power.
NO challenger will like you to climb, all the players are afraid of being challenged so what they say is just to obstruct you from climb if you find a secret you wont be telling to anybody , this channel is doing this for money not to help you climb.
Make your own style what work for me doesn't work for you.
Same video every upload. No point being subscribed anymore
U forgot Nasus jungle
He only goes to C tier, he doesn't do F tier
Viktor... OP... AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
Yeah right
My top laners never go a tank and it tilts the fuck out of me.
Riot new fighting game should only included melee top and jungle champs
Tank Warwick is BROKEN....YW
I don't like seeing my boy warwick on the top of the meta. That only means incoming nerfs until he is unplayable
*me who never played LoL* : hm interesting
Why isn't Tahm Kench OP? He beats top lane WW ez
No Vayne top lane?
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vs poppy or ww game is unplayable rito do something wtf?
ww ok, but poppy... you just have to not stand near walls, and pick a supp that can cancel her E, like thresh, janna, soraka, .. She isn't unstoppable while using E...
There are ADC like Ezreal, or Vayne, which can easily stop poppy from ever approching them. Her E has a long cooldown, so it's not that bad.
The champ has been strong support for many years now, just learn how it works, because it will not leave support, her kit is just too strong for the role, and no amount of stat adjustment can make her any less strong without killing her completely as Jgl, Mid or Top.
ADCs just have to play around ennemy champions like supports, toplaners and midlaners do, that's it. If you see a blitzcrank, you expect an invade. If you see Leona, you are very careful lvl 3, if you see Soraka, you take anti heal/ignite (if you are agressive), etc...
Also, you have a ban button, if you want to play an ADC or supp that is weak against Poppy...
The champ is very strong, I'm not saying otherwise, but it does have a lot of counters, and hence the game being unplayable is mostly a skill issue.
If a gym would offer cashback to you after not getting ripped in 6 months they would bancrupt since they have a lot of their expenditures. You are just sharing informations which costs you almost nothing compared to gym. bruh
Most people are just no autodidacts. I can't understand either, it just is what it is.
Maokai toptier on top dont make me laugh. Yet they pick df. Every game maokai 0/5 on top
How do u countrr warwick? In low elo especially
Lillia or Nocturne
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