You're WRONG if you think there's Nothing to Photograph

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  • I bet you have sat at home moaning that there's nothing in your area worthy of taking photos of. If I am right then I guarantee that YOU ARE WRONG and in this video I am going to demonstrate just how wrong you are.
    There's no such thing as a boring area in photographic terms. What there are are uncreative photographers - people who's Photographic Eye is undeveloped and THAT is what we need to fix.
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  • @morrisgentry8624
    @morrisgentry8624 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This was fun to watch, Andy. All good shots - the broken window image is my favorite.

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks you, Morris. I like so many of these images which is in itself unusual.

  • @jimsturla
    @jimsturla 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great work Andy. I always look forward to your videos and your creative approach.

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks, Jim

  • @geraldbraun6267
    @geraldbraun6267 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I really enjoyed this video Andrew, your dry sense of humor really makes this a great watch. I couldn't help but laugh through the video. This looks like a location near me, so I am going to grab my camera and check it out. Thanks for the inspiration!

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Kind words. Thank you.

  • @SwissNetHawk
    @SwissNetHawk 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another great video with great shots. Will walk around tomorrow and try to look closer for subjects where i didn't see them before. Love also your relaxed attitude.

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It can take some practice. Start out by looking for lines and shapes and how things disrupt them.

  • @toine1915
    @toine1915 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hi, Andy.
    This is a beautiful and interesting video.
    And the pictures you made are excellent, my friend.
    You're absolutely right, if you look around there is a photo everywhere.
    Some are more interesting than others, but that is a personal thing
    I have decided not to post my photos on the internet anymore.
    If I like a photo, it is a good photo, and what someone else thinks is no longer relevant to me.
    There are so many photographers on the internet and so many different opinions that I decide for myself what I like and what I don't.
    And everyone knows it better than the other.
    What strikes me is that it is becoming increasingly common for TH-camrs to measure each other and become personal about the different opinions.
    Every year I make a book of my "best" photos and that's it.
    And it is very nice to look at those booklets side by side and look for similarities in the way of photography.
    Someone once recommended this to me and it is really fun to do. This year will be the sixth booklet.
    Andy take care of yourself and see you next time.

    • @morrisgentry8624
      @morrisgentry8624 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well said.

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think that's quite a wise move, Antoine.
      My problem with the yearly photobook is the curation of it - I don't have the patience - plus there's hardly anyone around me that's remotely interested in looking anyway.

  • @danienelphoto
    @danienelphoto 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Glad to see someone who doesn't want to add more "shock"-value or make things that are considered "not pleasing aesthetically" even worse, but rather try and give it an aesthetic lift. Seeing the beauty in the mundane. Bravo!

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There are so many images to be found in the mundane it's unreal. Don't get me wrong, I would love to have the time and money to jet off to, say, Iceland, and shoot epic things but also, to an Icelander, many of these things are also "mundane". There's beauty all around us - we just tend to be blind, ignorant or dismissive of it.

  • @ianclay3040
    @ianclay3040 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Andy. Again a great video. loving all your content and how you pick out great shots in mundane areas. So much so I today have visited a very local trading estate with new eyes. Keep this up mate I look forward to the next one..Ian

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Cheers, Ian.

  • @JonGibbsPhotography
    @JonGibbsPhotography 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lovely to see you having a go in GY Andy 😀👍🏻

  • @brxee
    @brxee 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Inspiring stuff Andrew, thank you, new sub here. I've just recently dug out my old EOS 350d with a view to remembering/re-learning all the basics I learnt years ago and get going again. Unfortunately I appear to have some in camera fungus tendrils spidering in from the bottom right corner of the pictures (identical whichever lens) so I'll be buying something a bit more modern (2nd hand dslr) a bit sooner than I intended. I'll stick with entry level (Canon) because they tend to have most stuff on the right and I'm one armed, plus I've got lenses.

  • @pauldarville3843
    @pauldarville3843 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting ideas, Thanks Andrew!!

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks, Paul

  • @donaldmiller7098
    @donaldmiller7098 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Excellent video. You worked that location beautifully.

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Very kind of you, Donald. Thanks.

  • @johnchipperfield3367
    @johnchipperfield3367 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video, and some very interesting shots.

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks, John.

  • @garrettlison4992
    @garrettlison4992 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your ideas made me go back through some of my old shots and try and look at them in with more educated eyes. It helped me remember why I originally liked some of these compositions in the first place.

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hope you find gems hiding in there.

  • @toine1915
    @toine1915 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi, Andy.
    I have now watched your video for the second time.
    And I like it now even more.
    And you did give me some ideas.
    Then I started watching that old video and came to the conclusion that I wasn't looking properly.
    Or that I only look at things I want to photograph and not at things I can photograph.
    Thank you for that, my dear friend.
    I'm definitely going to try this soon.
    Antoine.

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Antoine, I like that distinction.
      "Or that I only look at things I want to photograph and not at things I can photograph."
      I think that's an interesting thought process that needs more exploration.
      Thank you.

  • @daviddaw999
    @daviddaw999 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The shot with the yellow lines, single poppy, and bottle is the winner for me.

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Cheers, David. I really liked that shot too. Really quite graphic. I have a number of others from that particular position that are low down looking more into the traffic. Maybe I will put them on Instagram sometime.

  • @lyndsaywheelans
    @lyndsaywheelans 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Such great content and ideas - thank you! Many great photos but I really like your image of the red poppy/flower, shadow and water bottle with the yellow lines

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks so much!

  • @markbush5840
    @markbush5840 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love this subject you have very much struck a cord with be we all look but it takes time to see thanks for this one keep them coming m

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You are so welcome

  • @robertmeyerson1618
    @robertmeyerson1618 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for this video. Your work is excellent.

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's very kind of you to say. Thank you.

  • @georgetrimmer3077
    @georgetrimmer3077 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Most Excellent !

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad you like it. Thanks for commenting

  • @teresababer5310
    @teresababer5310 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My fave is the window shot! But honestly all your compositions just seem to work 👍 But back to the window….love the old & broken for sure☺️

  • @Ricalex67
    @Ricalex67 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love these videos that give inspiration of not needing the big cities for interesting places to shoot. Funny you should mention silver efex. I’m editing on an iPad as I like mobile but I’m contemplating switching to a MacBook Air. Due to the platform change I’d be reliant on Lightroom and photoshop plan and wondering about the nik software, especially silver efex as an add on.
    Some nice shots there, keep the videos coming, they make for an interesting relaxed viewing.

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks. SilverEFX is the granddaddy of mono editing. It's just excellent.

  • @travelswith...
    @travelswith... 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Afternoon Andrew, A Great Sunday Afternoon Watch with a cup of tea & biscuits, especially with it teeming down at the moment... Inspiring as usual... Have just upgraded through your link from Nik 5 to 7... Hope the little helps... And once again keep those great Vlogs coming from the Beautiful Surroundings of Norfolk & beyond... It is Appreciated 👍🏻 Best Wishes David

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for your support and the upgrade, you'll find BIG differences between 5 and 7. DO NOT remove 5. 7 does not have the perspective tool included any more
      Take care.

    • @travelswith...
      @travelswith... 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AndyBanner Andrew noted & Many Thanks for the Heads Up. Appreciated 👍🏻

  • @lizliz1383
    @lizliz1383 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Such a good video. I love the photos especially broken window and Mercedes. I have a hard time keeping lines straight, being short I look up at everything. Trying to figure that out

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's where you need software to correct the perspective. DxO has an application precisely for that. I used NIK perspective for many of these square on shots for precisely the reason you mentioned. It's very hard being accurate, especially hand held as I was.
      Thanks for your support.

  • @christopherharrison3597
    @christopherharrison3597 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another fabulous video Andy , pity about those pesky earbuds... Already on my way to my local industrial estate.

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don't get run over by a skip lorry! Cheers, Christopher.

  • @duringthemeanwhilst
    @duringthemeanwhilst 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    genius voiceover - loved it!!
    the image at 4:45 - I like the shadow, might even look better with a deeper one? my pick (not that you asked, but) is the broken window. I quite like the close up of it without the Merc 🙂
    have you ever considered a tilt/shift lens for architectural stuff?

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have often considered a tilt-sift lens. I would love one. Sadly, I would also like to pay my electricity bill (that's clearly a lie, I would prefer not to pay it, but that's not a long-term option apparently) . Also, I am not sure there's one in the MFT mount.
      The shadow for me isn't great, but a deeper one might change my opinion. Dunno. The merc next to the smashed window tells a different story to the window being isolated, but the real interest is the window for sure.
      As for the VO, well, at least you didn't have to listen to the normal amount of waffle, but it took a lot of "takes".
      Cheers, Nick

  • @uncle0eric
    @uncle0eric 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    By it's very nature, photography transforms its subject into an object, and the very act of "looking twice" at an object transforms it into something new.

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      indeed.

  • @xaosgeist
    @xaosgeist 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ironically, I enjoy your voiceover more than your vlogging style. Anyway, good input as always for me. Thanks a lot.

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well, I get more time to think about the waffle that falls from my mouth with a voiceover - and endless hours re-recording and editing it so that it sounds only mildly moronic....

  • @ianbrowne9304
    @ianbrowne9304 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    14:23 I like the "red behind red" --- I have that keyword lol
    again; so simple so effective

  • @user-pq2ed6yj4s
    @user-pq2ed6yj4s 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The picture of the broken window that everyone likes really upsets me! You cut off the top of the brick arch above the window, why?
    Thank you for a very good video.

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sorry! I didn't feel it was an important part of the composition. It's a good thing we all like different things as we learn and adapt though other people's views.

  • @angelathomas2117
    @angelathomas2117 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love this video I always find I say there is nothing interesting to photograph. Maybe its time I just walk around looking for ideas. I have been stuck into my macro cos I never know what to photograph outside 😀

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Antoine wrote something in another comment here that's rather interesting and I think it might help you in this:
      "Or that I only look at things I want to photograph and not at things I can photograph."
      Mind you, your macro work is really something, so sticking to what you know and really honing that skill has a lot going for it too.

    • @angelathomas2117
      @angelathomas2117 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AndyBanner Thank you ☺

  • @simonpayne7994
    @simonpayne7994 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I do like the shots you have presented. Lovely compositions. I myself am a bit of an all-rounder. But when I get into my square aspect ratio mood the shots I take look just like yours. Sometimes I combine 4 squares in post to what I call a "quad" - i.e. a large square made up of 2 x 2 squares. The main problem is finding the final fourth shot that really fits in with the other three. And of course you have an interesting combinational composition problem. Shooting squares for inclusion in a quad and then putting the quad together is a very nice way to spend a Sunday afternoon.
    I have never seen quads before. Maybe I have invented a completely new genre. 🙂

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi, Simon. I like the idea of quads. I might steal it.... :-)
      I don't shoot many images with the thought of creating a series (triptychs and such). Such things don't tend to occur to me and I guess that's another identified gap in my photography. Thanks for bringing it up. Food for thought.

    • @simonpayne7994
      @simonpayne7994 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@AndyBanner I usually make my quads quite colorful and combine the weirdest motives. Then I put a green frame around it. You're heartily welcome to pinch the idea. Anybody reading this - give it a try. Great fun.

  • @SteveMorris1964
    @SteveMorris1964 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really enjoyed this video Andy, I work in places like this as a service engineer, and I have never looked at them as you do, then it begs the qauestion, shall I start taking my camera to work with me? I've often thought about doing that anyway, because as we all know, there are many times you drive past something, a field at sunset/sunrise etc that you wished you had your camera with you at the time. Only thing is, it's a lot of responibility to have in the van with me, it's insured, but still, I wouldn't want a break in. I could always use my phone and take some 'come back at another time' images I guess. Anyway, I'm waffling, loved all the images, especially the broken window and the Merc.

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe get a smaller point and shoot from MPB or FB marketplace and not be so concerned over it? Hate using my phone as a camera. It's capable, I just hate the operation of it.

    • @SteveMorris1964
      @SteveMorris1964 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AndyBanner I don't like using my phone either, just doesn't seem proper some how.

  • @Arripa-777
    @Arripa-777 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The photo ( 10:18 ) with the walking guy is creepy... is he a ghost ? There is no shadow 👻 !
    Thank you Andrew. I enjoyed this video very much ! 📸

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Cheers. Yeah, it's a weird one. Love the idea of an apparition in HiViz....

  • @ledesclos5321
    @ledesclos5321 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes, shots everywhere. Wonderful. Thank you.

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you too!

  • @Sven-R
    @Sven-R 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Nik collection is really great, especially Silver Efex

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Love Silver Efx. I will be honest, I only bought the Nik collection for SilverEfx. I am now an affiliate and promotional partner of DXO but only as a real customer first. I love using ColorEfx too and Analog Efx is an essential part of my ICM work. The perspective tool is excellent also but sadly missing from Nik Collection 7.

  • @ianbrowne9304
    @ianbrowne9304 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Left ya camera in some weird ratio @ 9:10 . That was silly! I always get inspiration from you , and not just from your photography thinking ; but also your photo editing which always seems to have a simple nature look even if it isn't . However; why do so many make photography hard, or harder than it is has to be by changing what I call internal settings that are easy to forget to change back. . Yes; it's a great idea to consider the editing/cropping needed when/before taking the photo. I do that most of the time. I often even think of a name for the photo --- the reason I actually noticed the subject as photograph. But because I have stuffed up 'BIG' time in the past (too often), I don't charge too much within the camera like crop ratios. When you set 9x15 , all the camera does is crop off the top and bottom --- yeah yeah I know you know but others may not Andrew ;) . Those pixels are gone forever. That exact crop, or (maybe) a better crop can be done within any editing program. The most charged setting in my camera is "exposure compensation" . I can go all day without changing too much else ; the Oly camera is smarter than me so I let it do the thinking .
    Just a thought to share with those who feel cropping later(editing) is wrong (yes, a lot think that) .
    Because every subject is not made to fit perfectly on every sensor used we do need to crop . However; cropping should be limited to the top and bottom edges, or from edge of each side , but not from all sides . . Not that it makes a lot of difference with today's incredible cameras--- I just wish they would last longer 😭.
    Sorry mate ; that end up as long a your full video 🥴

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ian,
      I am only aware of Nikon dumping pixels when you change the crop. All cameras will do it to a JPEG, but only Nikon goes that one extra STUPID step of effing up the RAW also.
      I am not adverse to cropping outside of normal ratios either - I don't do it much, but at the end of the day, it's an artistic choice. I am rarely concerned with how an image is actually produced if it looks awesome at the end of the process. It's art after all - we might be using realistic facsimiles of real objects, but a painter or pencil artist could argue similarly.
      For me, only two (maybe three) things matter.
      1) That I enjoy the process
      2) that I produce something that I find pleasing
      3) that I produce something that others find pleasing
      These factors are in depleting order.
      Andy

  • @DominikMarczuk
    @DominikMarczuk 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Get out and shoot my local area. That's what I've been doing for the past several weeks and that's what I'm planning to do tomorrow morning as well. I'm always blown away by the interesting shots I manage to find with every new roll of film I shoot.
    Also, there's the magenta cast again. Ugh, I can't keep my attention off of it. Good thing the content is interesting as always.

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What magenta cast. My face really is that colour....

    • @DominikMarczuk
      @DominikMarczuk 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AndyBanner And it radiates to the surroundings :D

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's my aura - can't be helped! :-)

    • @DominikMarczuk
      @DominikMarczuk 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AndyBanner Well, if we can't help it, we can't help it. BTW, your video inspired me so much that I shot an entire roll of film and then some in a single morning. I'm now impatiently waiting for it to be developed.

  • @ianbrowne9304
    @ianbrowne9304 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wish I add such old and interesting industrial areas closer to me ---- this area is only around 100 years old at best.

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They don't have to be old to be interesting. The one I visited in February, (the link is in the end-screen of this video) is much more modern and yielded great images. But, I think if you want more gritty shots, almost any urban environment will provide them, certainly in the UK where we've witnessed 14 years of depravation anyway. I know that, for instance, if I walk down certain residential streets in Norwich (kind of 60/70s neighbourhoods) I could get very interesting images and mugged.

  • @iphoneography
    @iphoneography 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    At 6:00 those blue doors would have been a great composition shot

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I would have missed far more opportunities than I embraced.

  • @martyjwalker
    @martyjwalker 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank god for grim, light industrial areas - the perfect playground for abstract photographers. What's with the blue sky and the sun? This is England, right? :)

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not only is it England, but it's summer. Don't worry, it returned to form shortly after!
      Yes, I love these places. Back streets, service roads, abandoned places and so on are all ideal places to take your camera.

  • @r.v.niddrie9111
    @r.v.niddrie9111 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    But…..would you take any of these photographs and make say a 8x10 or larger, frame it and hang it on a wall in your home ?

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I am not sure of the premise of your question. It seems to be a suggestion as to whether the photography is only worthwhile if you would hang it on a wall. This is a very narrow view of the creative process - is music only valuable if you press a vinyl record or does the musician get enjoyment from the process of making the music? So, in answer to your question, "yes" there's at least one image in this group that would have hanging on a wall at home. Don't be fooled into thinking that "because it's your home" you want images of purity, organic wellness and butterflies. What's wrong with hanging a bit of industrial art on your walls? Perhaps if you reframed the question and said "Would you include these images in a gallery hanging?" What would your answer be then? Perhaps, "would you make a book or a zine about light industrial landscapes and include any of these images?"
      But I also fear that you have missed the point entirely. To get good at photography, you need practice. Places like this light industrial area are hugley valuable photographic playgrounds. Being able to walk in just a 1000 yard radius from where I parked the car and fill a memory card with good images is a really great exercise - the places are full of lines, shapes, textures, colours and opportunities and any photographer who walks away light on images needs to practice a whole lot more - AND that is the point of the video.

  • @David-ge3px
    @David-ge3px 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Tax discs....more like 10 years🤔

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Time flies whether you're having fun or not.

  • @iaincphotography6051
    @iaincphotography6051 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As you said, there are plenty of shots out there, you just need to look and learn to see.

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes, they are everywhere. You just need to train your eye to see and make the most of them.

    • @jay10242
      @jay10242 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well, I don't like flowers neither trash or modern industrial buildings. People photograph things they like. Maybe there's a composition or maybe there's a story, but if you don't like it you won't shoot it.

  • @1marcelfilms
    @1marcelfilms 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I dont feel like wasting my priceless money on taking photo of random objects in my area.

    • @Cocc0nuttt0
      @Cocc0nuttt0 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      if only there was another way...

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I am not really sure what you're trying to say here., but let's look at your comment about random objects. Most objects we find in the landscape are quite random in that it's only really buildings and structures that have been deliberately placed in a permanent sense. I appreciate that this kind of photography does not suit everyone but the essence of much of my content is this: You do not have to travel far to find interesting things to photograph. Unlike many other TH-cam photographers who love to get in their camper vans or aircraft and travel great distances, my content demonstrates what's within a much smaller catchment area and the opportunities that exist as a result.
      I don't understand how you can waste priceless money (perhaps you meant time?) practicing photography. Indeed, practicing different kinds of photography from what you might normally shoot is hugely valuable as you learn to see better. If that's not for you, that's fine and I thank you for reaching out.

    • @1marcelfilms
      @1marcelfilms 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AndyBanner I mean the film cost very much so I save it for when im on vacations.

    • @AndyBanner
      @AndyBanner  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I understand now. You're quite a rare breed these days. Yes, I would be less prolific if I was having to pay for film and chemicals, but my argument about shooting different things remains valid.

    • @stephenthompson1998
      @stephenthompson1998 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well written reply