Ace will forever be the best friend Rico needed. Dude humbles himself and knows where he stands and loves it regardless. Plus the actors father is legendary
@@leonwoodley99 I completely agree that there's no definition on the Alien's side. But the fascist portrayal couldn't been more defined, it's practically a sledgehammer. The film opens with propaganda featuring a literal child soldier.
True story - Eric Bruskotter (actor who placed Breckinridge) and Tami-Adrian George (actress who shot him in the training accident) met on the set of this movie and got married.
The director, Paul Verhoeven, couldn't understand why the test audiences all hated Carmen (Denise Richards), loved Diz (Dina Meyer), and expressed a preference that Carmen die badly (not heroically) and Diz live.
... i don't agree. she broke up with the guy. its her perogative. he needs to get over it and move on, which he does, finally. carmen ISN'T the villain of this movie.
In the book they not even dating, Johnnie (Juan in the book) had crush for her, but she's only mentioned in memories and isn't any significant character. So it could be worse.
The black dude at the end is my favorite character he held off all the bugs and gave them time to escape. You like that you like that huh you want some more!!!??
49:00- Not gonna lie. Best Starship Troopers review I've ever seen. They delved deep into this movie. Acknowledged all the silliness of it all and the hidden messages too.
@@appleciderhorror12 Space nazis are far better than earth liberals. Earth liberals would beg the bugs to populate Earth while offering up children for the bugs to eat while attacking anyone that fought against the bugs the liberals invited in. This is not the burn you think it is.
Based off of the Novel by Robert Heinlein, where the Mobile Infantry wear powered armor (like Iron Man). Directed by Paul Verhoven. He also directed Robocop, Total Recall, and Basic Instinct. Since you liked his unique (Dutch) perspective in this film, perhaps you would enjoy reacting to his other movies.
Loosely based, Verhoeven already had a script for an SF war movie, then they managed to get the rights to the book. Verhoeven never read the book, though, an assistant basically gave him Cliff Notes.
@@johnirving5949 It's funny. The book is very different from the movie in tone. Verhoeven had decided to make a fascist satire beforehand, but the book is not fascist. So because the movie broadly follows the plot-points and characters of the book he ended up with a non-fascist movie that just had a thin coat of fascist paint on it. That is why we can still feel sympathetic towards the protagonists despite Verhoeven trying to make us dislike them.
Years go by and Starship Troopers continues to be the best and closest adaptation of a possible Warhammer 40,000 universe. Someone in GW must love this movie, because we're watching a battle between Cadians and Tyranids in life action.
@@jeremiahalonzo It’s just as close, for sure. Warp travel works a bit differently, since it’s not the “pencil-through-paper” theory that Event Horizon utilizes, but I still really like the film and it is pretty much the closest representation we have for it on film, especially if they go through without Gellar Fields. And the ship being modeled after a cathedral feels like it fits right in with the 40k universe too! Now if Starship Troopers had power armor like they do in the book, that would be definitely pushing it closer to 40k too! 😄
Excellent reaction! This is signature Paul Verhoeven with the satire and violence. Michael Ironside is indeed one of the best Actors and steals every scene he's in 😁 This is based off of the novel Robert A. Heinlein wrote in 1959 and is Military Sci-Fi so it focuses more on the daily life with a few skirmishes in between. The novel spends a lot of time with Rico in Basic Training and then furthering his education while enlisted.
Great movie, I really enjoyed it at the time and I even have the special Blu-ray edition of the movie. It was also heavily criticized for some scenes of nudity and explicit violence, which in some countries was censored. This movie is on my list of best movies. of history 😊
snaps to the character design team for their diverse variety of bug types. most monster movies give us a single creatureform. (probably a budget issue)
Paul Verhoeven had a lot of clout in Hollywood to make the movie. Two sequels and an animated series used the bug designs. The Animated Series is closer to the book.
This is a satire movie targeting hyper military patriotism and propaganda. Those around for the Gulf War and Desert Storm understand the satire and spoofing it does. When I first saw this movie as a kid I thought it was pretty stupid but as I grew into adulthood and understood the themes and the digs it was making at the current history of that time, I found it to be pretty brilliant. That last line "It's afraid!!" makes me 😅😅 every time. Most people won't get why it's so funny. But if you lived through the early 90's with the Gulf War I'm sure you do.
Hey I loved your comment. I was born in 92 so I missed out on this Gulf War reference you're talking about haha, any chance you could explain it further? Thanks!
I think it's a commentary on military extremism in any era. If you think about when the book was written and all that the world had experienced up until then the commentary is effective in any pointless war setting
It wasn't hyper milirarism or patriotism. Literally everything was designed to convince people not to join the military. As Rico said, his teacher basically tried to convince him not to do it. His parents tried to bribe and threaten him not to do it. Even at the recruitment office they purposefully put that guy with most of him limbs missing at the front desk to scare people away. And half the "propaganda" showed people publicly criticising the government and the military.
@bethcushway458 what extremism? There was none. The federation didn't even attack the bugs until the bugs had already wiped out the Mormon colonists AND directly attacked earth with the meteor. They literally waited until the bugs killed millions of people before they went to war. How is any of that "extreme"?
@@KurNorock And who put the Mormon colony on their planet? We did. They defended their planet against invaders. And we retaliated, and they did. But none of that is the the point of the film. The point of the film is the entire society being focused on military service. You can't be a citizen or vote or have children, unless you serve in the military. The propaganda twisting everything. The propaganda bits are intentionally shot to be badly acted and corny. The zoom in shot of the guy "The only good bug is a dead bug." It's all pushing extremism by saturating the Federation's population with anger and hatred. Even the kids are being given guns by the soldiers to play with and they stomp on bugs. The movie is so unsubtle about it's themes that most people miss them completely.
During the exit polls from the preliminary screenings, so many people and especially the female audience members said that they should have saved Diz and killed off Denise Richards' character. She was univerally disliked.
One of the best satires of fascism ever made. Fantastic little film that's endlessly entertaining even while hitting you over the head with subtext the whole time.
Yet the Federation isn't fascist. There is fascist-inspired window dressing throughout the movie. But that's all a surface level gloss over a libertarian structure.
@@flatebo1 If you really believe that then maybe you should check on your own fascism there... I imagine you would be one of Hitler´s favourite voters.
So here's the story... 5 years before , Verhoeven told the writer Neumeier that he wanted to make a satire of teenagers in 1934 to 1938 germany who were swept up with H's rise and were happy. Both agreed, it would never be made. Then Neumeier was put on "bug hunt on planet ..." something.. it was a low budget "B" science fiction film. And he remembered the parody and talked to Verhoeven about the film maybe being a vehicle for it. Then the studio got the rights to "Starship Troopers" attached it to the film, greenlit it, and gave it a bigger budget now that VerHoeven was attached ot it. VerHoeven incorrectly thought that anything militaristic was fascist ( by his definition, all the Allied powers during WW2 were also fascist). He read 2 chapters of the book and went "Booooring" and handed over writing to Neumeier completely. But Neumeier actually liked the book. And he dropped large parts of the book into the movie faithfully without strawmanning them (the high school class for example). He did combine Colonel Dubois and Radchek and that's typical in adaptions. The film we got was not the satire VerHoeven thought it was-- because the book's material shined through. So we got to see a Constitutional Republic with a limited voter Franchise, dressed up in fascist costumes and a lot of messages about personal responsibility and the importance of responsible citizens to a well functioning society. Which rang true with many.
@@macmcleod1188 It was absolutely the satire they thought it was. It couldn't be a more clear satire of fascism and every second of the film is smacking you right in the face with the incredibly hyper-fascist society they live in.
@Teeklin I agree that it is a satire... it's just not a satire of fascism. It's a satire of militarism. But in the real world, the military is needed to avoid situations like Ukraine. Fairhaven was traumatized as a young child and came to view militarism and fascism as the same thing. They're not. In order to make a satire of fascism, the movie would have had to have actual fascist philosophical elements and not just fascist costumes.
The CGI in this movie is so good (especially for 1997) that y'all praised it for its "PRACTICAL EFFECTS". 😅😲 This was one of the early hugely cgi movies, it was just brilliantly done by masters of their craft.
Starship Troopers was like a lightning in the bottle moment for 90's sci-fi, till this day people have no idea if it is supposed to be satirical or not, and goddamn the vfx was just insane for its time, even to this day, it looks really good.
What funny is that Verhoven was trying to make a satirical movie decrying militarism, and especially "fascism", (whatever that means in this context - it is all things to ask people), and ended up making them look cool. 😂😂😂
The book is more serious, the movie basically only gets a "fascist undertones satire" label because of the aesthetics of the uniforms and such. The message many take is "well maybe the bugs aren't the bad guys" but thats blatantly false, they're a brutal, massacring race willing to orbitally bombard civilian targets.
No that asteroid would take millions of years to traverse the galaxy, so unless the bugs were aiming at the dinosaurs it was the government taking advantage of a natural disaster to start a war.
One of the best subversively political satires in recent memory. Amazing that this movie was made before 9/11 because it totally feels like a critique of the US post-9/11.
@@KurNorock the beginning where the teacher talks about the veterans taking control is a direct reference to the Nazi street gangs being made up of German WW1 veterans... Verhoeven has spoken repeatedly about how the society in this film is inspired by the Nazis.
@@juvandy Verhoeven readily admitted he never read the book. He made a great satire film critiquing a straw man story he imagined from a book he never read, and essentially landed on making a faithful adaptation that mirrored the same messages the book made. How Heinlein, and in particular starship troopers, got this right wing or fascist label is beyond me.
I feel that you REALLY don't get the true message behind this film. You were focussing too much on the 'litlte things' and thus missing the bigger picture. This is not a "we love the military' movie ladies....
Casper Van Dien - one of the most beautiful men to ever walk this planet.... he came back eleven years later in ST3, and didnt appear to have aged one damn day. Fun Fact: Carper's daughter, Grace, plays CHrissy, the .. unfortunate girl in the beginning of Season 4 Stranger THings.. THAT'S how old he is now... Sigh.
The movie is based on the book by Robert A Heinlein who was a sci-fi writer. He was cousin of mine that I unfortunately never got to meet. He died several years ago. He also has several books and maybe another book turned into a movie.
In the book, Dizzy was a man and everybody gets killed except Johnny on page two. After that, there are lots of flashbacks to highschool where the teacher (Mr. De La Croix not Lt. Radchek) has long talks about the philosophy of voluntarism and the rewards of meritocracy.. BTW they were from Manila but Johnny's mother was visiting her sister in Buenos Aires when the asteeroid hit. Johnny's father joins the Mobile Infantry in the end. Great book but the director kind of butchered the story.
I know the feeling I grew up in a military family as well. My mother and my father served in Germany, where I was born, and then we moved back to the states Inn, they operated out of Monterey, California. My mother had to stay in the military a little longer than my dad because of the maternal leave, she took Having me and my brother and I always was hoping that she would come home then in 1989, she came home.
Ah, Paul Verhoeven... A mad genius! His 'trilogy' is pretty incredible and amazing. It is campy greatness, it shoves your face into themes and still somehow dances around others, it is a gore fest that somehow has a meaning. It is weird and wonderful!
This is one of my favorite movies, and almost noone reacts to it. Gotta say you two had some interesting commentary to say the least 😂 loved every second of this reaction.
@@cboscari He was perhaps some sort of libertarian. As an author, he had an obsession with writing stories about different political and social systems, which made his politics hard to pin down exactly and made his books somewhat destined to be politically incorrect compared to say Asimov or Herbert.
just remember our ancestors fought bears and wolves with sticks and rocks. two species being pitted against each other is one of life's many tragedies, but when you are one of them you don't have the luxury of fighting with less than everything you've got. if you want to think about it in a nicer way, by dominating the other species to the brink of extinction you earn the luxury to spare them in the end. you create an evolutionary space for their survivors to adapt and exist in the world.
Anyone who reads the book who is familiar with the movie is in for many surprises: Dizzy Flores is a guy, Johnny's teacher is retired and never has anything to do with the Roughnecks, Carl is not psychic and dies early in the story, Carmen is never really Johnny's girlfriend and doesn't have that much to do with the story, and some main characters were invented for the movie (e.g. Zander Barcalow).
The left an important fact out of the cinema-cut of the movie: Ricos Parents are rich, but they are not cititzens. Thats why Carmens dad dissaproved of Rico and thats why Carmen refused to sleep with him until he told her, he would join up.
Yours truly says "only half right." Flores was indeed a model friend (indeed, literally, a knockout), but we only react negatively to Ibanez because we are not allowed to walk two meters in her moccasins, let alone a mile. 😕 "Trash" is a hateful term to apply to people, and the more English-speakers who realize this, the closer to a better future. 🧐 In spite of this, I hope you enjoy your day. 🙂
MI training was brutal in order to MAKE YOU QUIT! However, once out of training, you were expected to be the absolute best and able to do any mission given to you without hesitation or concept of stopping until the mission was completed, no matter the cost... you GOT IT DONE! Of course, in the book, you were given absolutely EVERYTHING you needed, including the "Suit" that would make you a "one-man tank/battleship" capable of living in even the harshest conditions, including space.
The movie is a critique of militaristic societies and how they usually turn fascist. And while the movie does makes the bugs the antagonists, the humans are not the heroes either. A proof that Verhoeven did not portrayed the humans as the good guys, the costumes that the people in the intelligence wear are exact replicas of the uniforms of senior gestapo members.
A prop is not an argument. The Federation is not a militaristic society. We only see the military part of that society because all of the characters are in the military. It would be like describing a country as a police state because the characters you're following in the movie are cops. What we do see of society outside the military, like Rico's parents, pretty strongly indicate that the Federation is not a militaristic society. Is there, for example, any indication that other students in Rico's HS joined Federal service? Heck, in a militaristic society you'd expect mandatory military service. Yet the Federation requires recruits to volunteer...and discourages people from doing so while simultaneously making it extremely easy for them to quit. I know what Verhoeven thought he was doing. He just didn't do it. Mostly because he decided to argue politics with Heinlein. And lost.
i feel like during all of the talk about "the bugs were just defending themselves" you forgot they were the ones who supposedly sent the asteroid that took out rico's home town first
interesting how the two of you stared and really liked the dynamic with the idea of Carmen being interested in the other guy other than his boyfriend ,and really interesting how u say "infantry" with some disdain of the concept of being in ground fighting... interesting behavior..
So this original story was done by one of the pillars of modern science fiction Robert A Heinlein. They were able to secure the rights after a script had started been written about a human Invasion on a bug planet in with a teen romance going on. After they options the rights for the story a director was hired that director being Paul verhoeven who is best known for doing films such as Total Recall and RoboCop. However verhoeven could not finish the novel written by Heinlein because of the fascism overtones(since he had grown up in a country that was occupied during World War II). So while the script was not quite finished verhoeven set it upon himself to help out the screenwriter to make a not-so-subtle dig at Nazi propaganda by making one of the most unsubtle portrayals of fascism in modern media. Now unfortunately because of how well verhoeven leaned into the satire many people upon release did not understand that it was a satire and actually accused him of making a Nazi propaganda picture. Two things of note with this film are the creature effects and of course the score(Basil outdid himself, Kandatheu drop is a a favorite by many who love this film)
the director didn't read the book because he thought it was boring, not because it was "too fascist". the book is the exact opposite of a fascist regime
Verhoeven is so far left than anything on the right appears to be fascism to him. It's how he managed to make a "fascist" state with a democratically elected leader, who doesn't hid behind propaganda when defeated in battle and even resigns, where anyone can vote unless they are too mentally handicapped to be able to consent to federal service. With a more free and honest press than we have (live footage from a frontline without editing?). Where open dissent of the state is not punished and where even a family like Rico's that haven't been citizens in generations are part of the 1% and clearly not held back by their refusal to be citizens or do federal service. Starship troopers the book is a pretty frankly right wing, starship troopers the movie is a libertarian power fantasy with the basic window dressing of fascism in the laziest way possible, i.e. some of the imagery and uniforms. As for the propaganda, yeah it's a war movie, are we going to pretend that during major wars, WW 1 and 2 for example there wasn't similar propaganda on both the Axis and Allies sides? Nationalist =/= fascist.
Sci Fi movies like this is why I miss the 90s my childhood. You read my mind at 26:11 I would have done the exact same thing as you. You ladies also read my mind at 34:22 do not remove an object stuck in you because you will bleed out.
Funny thing: The asteroid that hit earth was sent from the bugs home world, Klendathu right? That is on the other side of the Milky Way, according to that image at the beginning of the movie. That's like 100,000 light years away. Assuming that the asteroid was traveling at the speed of light, it would have taken 100,000 years for that asteroid to hit earth. Now, that asteroid wasn't traveling that fast, so it obviously took more than 100,000 years. In fact, it would have taken longer to travel that far than how old the universe is. So before the universe even existed, the bugs sent that asteroid to earth. Dang, that's a long battle plan.
I once heard my boss, a man I respect tell me this film is a portrait of the future if the Nazis had won. I asked him if that would have been as bad as the world we live in now...he looked me in the eye, shrugged his shoulders and walked away. Oh and by the way Robert Heinlein wrote the book. I've read it, own a first edition copy and have the T-shirt. Brilliant writer that unfortunately Vanhoven disgraced in this 'adaptation' of the original text.
I enjoyed this, especially the recap and thoughts at the end. Thank you for the upload! Please do yourselves a favor and read that book (at best the uncut original) and learn how and why it was written... I really love the movie, watched it at least a dozen times, but the book has a lot more to offer. I really wish for a new approach to adapting the original story with modern film making technology...
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned in the comments, but Michael Ironside's character (Lt. Rasczack) losing his legs was a gag as in a previous Paul Verhoven film, Total Recall, his character loses his arms.
I looked for the comments to see if anyone said this but no one seemed to have so I will. There are actually 2 different kinds of nuclear bombs. There is a type of nuclear bomb that will blow up without leaving radioactive fall out. The explosion itself is much smaller than an actual nuke though. Actually kind of make sense since there's are basically mortor shells.
It's a satire about a fascist society. The original book was pretty pro-fascist but the filmmaker flipped it on its head and mocked the society he created.
How is the book pro-fascist? I've read the book and I couldn't find anything overtly fascist. Unless you're going to equate militarism with fascism. But then I'd say your definition of fascism is too broad.
@@brandonatchison4769 It's a militarized society ruled by a military elite that puts ethnic nationalism above all else. Citizenship is limited to those within the military, that includes the right to vote. It talks of societal decline and rejuvenation through violence. Textbook fascism.
Been awhile since I read the book but I don’t remember race having anything to do with their society. Rico was Filipino and Shijumi was Japanese. Kind of a global militarized society.
@@joelhenry5489 Stratocracy and limited sufferage isn't restricted to fascism and I didn't see any ethnic nationalism. The themes about societal decline and rejuvenation I interpretated as pro-capital and corporal punishment, but not fascist.
This movie was ahead of time and very good. Some people have the impression that humans were the starter of this war and the propaganda was to get the people angry and fight like the Nazis in WWII did to their people. It was a morality tale against Nazis since I think the director grew up with them in Denmark at that time.
"The bugs are just defending their home" Yeah, almost as if maybe that asteroid was just a propaganda ploy to convince everyone to support the invasion and convince people like Rico to want to kill the bugs. Loved your comments at the end.
Incorrect. The bugs had the ability to target ships in orbit. "This isn't random or light. Somebody made a mistake!" They aren't just mindless drones. They have intelligence. They started the war.
@@grenadecraig9619 The point is the bugs didn't send the asteroid, that was propaganda. The bugs only attacked when earthlings started to colonize their planet. Them shooting the ships was just planetary defense.
Carmen goes to fleet academy, she feels like she has to show how smart she is and changes course because it’s “more efficient “ which puts them in the path of a meteor that hits them and damages the ship. The collision deflects the meteor just enough to send it hurdling toward earth. Long story short, Carman destroyed Buenos Aires and started a war…
Ladies, “Starship Troopers” is no longer so satirical in 2023: in the opening classroom scene, the teacher explored the failure of democracy and how the social scientists had brought the world to the brink of chaos. We are seeing that unfold in the USA right now as the “woke” agenda and mandates have gutted traditional family values and shredded the fabric of society, even as a fascist government ("Let's go Brandon!") has weaponized the FBI and Department of Justice and Internal Revenue Service against its political opponents…
To be fair Brandon isn't running shit, he's just the installed puppet who doesn't know where he's at but everything else is correct. It was only 2 years ago they decided who can work, where you can go, what time you can go, if you didn't take the expiremental shot they wanted you to not be in society, jobless, denied medical care and thrown in jail or camps. In Australia they actually did throw people in camps.
In Robert A. Heinlein's original novel, he postulated that the mobile infantry would have powered armor, and be equipped with small "pony nukes", as he put it. The book also didn't have any love inteerests/female soldiers. It was written in in 1959.
This is flat false. Carmen Ibanez is in the book, joins the navy, becomes a pilot, and they meet later and share a kiss. Her being on the rodger young and their meeting each other a few times is an important part of the book. The book also has other women in the miltary, often as pilots, and the author reinforces a few times that this is because women make better pilots than men.
Ace will forever be the best friend Rico needed. Dude humbles himself and knows where he stands and loves it regardless. Plus the actors father is legendary
Jake Busey is a great actor.
@@chrisstory563 And a wildman. LOL
@@Easy_Skanking like father like son LOL
The teeth gave it away.
@@hisdudeness8328 of course,. he has his dad's lips and teeth.
Whoever did the visuals on the Space Bugs is an FX hero because they still hold up today
Heck yeah!
Especially the practical effects.
That be effects god Phil Tippett. :)
Most expensive film ever made up until that point.
true af
One of my favorite movies from the 90’s it still holds up today.
It's better than Star Wars.
@@davidz3879 never and i like starship troopers.
@@AnteFuerst That is your opinion and it doesn't validated his...
@@AnteFuerst frak that mate it is better than any Disney Star wars. They killed the francize
@@HellStr82 yeah, better than any star wars movie except the original trilogy.
This film is as subtle as a nuke and yet so many people still don't get it
Paul forgot to humanize the bugs and show the humans being worse than usual.
He nailed it in RoboCop but failed it in Starship Troopers.
@@yodieyuhexactly. It’s not cause people don’t get it, it’s that it’s not there in this movie.
@@leonwoodley99 I completely agree that there's no definition on the Alien's side. But the fascist portrayal couldn't been more defined, it's practically a sledgehammer. The film opens with propaganda featuring a literal child soldier.
Neither did they, I guess.
@@yodieyuh Leaned a bit too much into the over the top absurdism - the book was more serious in tone.
Those two machine gunners were the real MVP’s of the outpost. They held the fliers and kept most of the bugs at bay, just to get killed at the end.
True story - Eric Bruskotter (actor who placed Breckinridge) and Tami-Adrian George (actress who shot him in the training accident) met on the set of this movie and got married.
You know it's true love when you marry the woman who blew a quarter of your head off. Me and my girlfriend met the same way.
MAZEL TOV! I love hearing about this sort of thing. 😃
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Well, _that_ must've been a sight.
And a half. 🤯
thats cute 💘
Came here to tell this story. Glad I’m not the only one who knows about.
I've seen reactions of this movie all the time: is hilarious how EVERYONE agreed that Carmen is a horrible girlfriend lol 😂
The director, Paul Verhoeven, couldn't understand why the test audiences all hated Carmen (Denise Richards), loved Diz (Dina Meyer), and expressed a preference that Carmen die badly (not heroically) and Diz live.
... i don't agree. she broke up with the guy. its her perogative. he needs to get over it and move on, which he does, finally. carmen ISN'T the villain of this movie.
@@cjmacq-vg8um she was terrible even before that
Yeah, he really had poor taste in women. At least he had one good one.
In the book they not even dating, Johnnie (Juan in the book) had crush for her, but she's only mentioned in memories and isn't any significant character. So it could be worse.
2:04 - "This is starting off real graphic"
Us - "Uh...yeah"
The black dude at the end is my favorite character he held off all the bugs and gave them time to escape. You like that you like that huh you want some more!!!??
yep, that's my dude Gabriel Stokes✝️🛐
Dizzy is the best woman a man could ever hope for
Carmen was Rico's girlfriend, but Diz was a wife material. She (Diz) actually loved Rico and showed it with her actions.
49:00- Not gonna lie. Best Starship Troopers review I've ever seen. They delved deep into this movie. Acknowledged all the silliness of it all and the hidden messages too.
Saw this in the theater back then, bought it on VHS, bought it on DVD, bought it on Blu-ray, watched it easily 20 times by now. I love this movie!
This movie was based on a book written in 1959, and still holds up today.
It is very different from the book. In fact it is actually the complete opposite of the book.
@@jamespetkwitz8737 And much better for it.
It's based on the back cover of the book.
@@AlanYoungIII Best description ever of the Starship Troopers movie versus book.
@@appleciderhorror12 Space nazis are far better than earth liberals.
Earth liberals would beg the bugs to populate Earth while offering up children for the bugs to eat while attacking anyone that fought against the bugs the liberals invited in.
This is not the burn you think it is.
Based off of the Novel by Robert Heinlein, where the Mobile Infantry wear powered armor (like Iron Man). Directed by Paul Verhoven. He also directed Robocop, Total Recall, and Basic Instinct. Since you liked his unique (Dutch) perspective in this film, perhaps you would enjoy reacting to his other movies.
Loosely based, Verhoeven already had a script for an SF war movie, then they managed to get the rights to the book. Verhoeven never read the book, though, an assistant basically gave him Cliff Notes.
@@johnirving5949 It's funny. The book is very different from the movie in tone.
Verhoeven had decided to make a fascist satire beforehand, but the book is not fascist. So because the movie broadly follows the plot-points and characters of the book he ended up with a non-fascist movie that just had a thin coat of fascist paint on it. That is why we can still feel sympathetic towards the protagonists despite Verhoeven trying to make us dislike them.
Paul Verhoeven was a child in the Netherlands when it was occupied by the Nazis. The Satire is bitingly accurate. 12:55
You forgot to list Verhoven's Magnum Opus: Showgirls
No. I didn't.@@dungeonsanddobbers2683
You two MUST watch more movies together! Best reaction duo of the channel! =D
Yeah! You guys have great energy.
Years go by and Starship Troopers continues to be the best and closest adaptation of a possible Warhammer 40,000 universe. Someone in GW must love this movie, because we're watching a battle between Cadians and Tyranids in life action.
Event horizon?
More like Starcraft without the Protoss
Saw the movie back in 98 and was the first time I saw an issue of White Dwarf being passed around in the audience.
@@jeremiahalonzo It’s just as close, for sure. Warp travel works a bit differently, since it’s not the “pencil-through-paper” theory that Event Horizon utilizes, but I still really like the film and it is pretty much the closest representation we have for it on film, especially if they go through without Gellar Fields. And the ship being modeled after a cathedral feels like it fits right in with the 40k universe too!
Now if Starship Troopers had power armor like they do in the book, that would be definitely pushing it closer to 40k too! 😄
40k has some alien mixed with its starship trooper
How infectious is Kristen’s laugh and smile? Mercy 😂
One of my favorites! The public lashing scene is a high point.
Got all Old Testament on us. No more than 40 max.
Another classic to watch is Tremors! If you guys haven't seen it already.
Excellent reaction! This is signature Paul Verhoeven with the satire and violence. Michael Ironside is indeed one of the best Actors and steals every scene he's in 😁
This is based off of the novel Robert A. Heinlein wrote in 1959 and is Military Sci-Fi so it focuses more on the daily life with a few skirmishes in between. The novel spends a lot of time with Rico in Basic Training and then furthering his education while enlisted.
Very different beasts though.
Great movie, I really enjoyed it at the time and I even have the special Blu-ray edition of the movie. It was also heavily criticized for some scenes of nudity and explicit violence, which in some countries was censored. This movie is on my list of best movies. of history 😊
snaps to the character design team for their diverse variety of bug types. most monster movies give us a single creatureform. (probably a budget issue)
Or a bug-et issue.
Paul Verhoeven had a lot of clout in Hollywood to make the movie. Two sequels and an animated series used the bug designs. The Animated Series is closer to the book.
This is a satire movie targeting hyper military patriotism and propaganda. Those around for the Gulf War and Desert Storm understand the satire and spoofing it does. When I first saw this movie as a kid I thought it was pretty stupid but as I grew into adulthood and understood the themes and the digs it was making at the current history of that time, I found it to be pretty brilliant. That last line "It's afraid!!" makes me 😅😅 every time. Most people won't get why it's so funny. But if you lived through the early 90's with the Gulf War I'm sure you do.
Hey I loved your comment. I was born in 92 so I missed out on this Gulf War reference you're talking about haha, any chance you could explain it further? Thanks!
I think it's a commentary on military extremism in any era. If you think about when the book was written and all that the world had experienced up until then the commentary is effective in any pointless war setting
It wasn't hyper milirarism or patriotism.
Literally everything was designed to convince people not to join the military. As Rico said, his teacher basically tried to convince him not to do it. His parents tried to bribe and threaten him not to do it. Even at the recruitment office they purposefully put that guy with most of him limbs missing at the front desk to scare people away.
And half the "propaganda" showed people publicly criticising the government and the military.
@bethcushway458 what extremism? There was none. The federation didn't even attack the bugs until the bugs had already wiped out the Mormon colonists AND directly attacked earth with the meteor. They literally waited until the bugs killed millions of people before they went to war.
How is any of that "extreme"?
@@KurNorock And who put the Mormon colony on their planet? We did. They defended their planet against invaders. And we retaliated, and they did. But none of that is the the point of the film. The point of the film is the entire society being focused on military service. You can't be a citizen or vote or have children, unless you serve in the military. The propaganda twisting everything. The propaganda bits are intentionally shot to be badly acted and corny. The zoom in shot of the guy "The only good bug is a dead bug." It's all pushing extremism by saturating the Federation's population with anger and hatred. Even the kids are being given guns by the soldiers to play with and they stomp on bugs.
The movie is so unsubtle about it's themes that most people miss them completely.
During the exit polls from the preliminary screenings, so many people and especially the female audience members said that they should have saved Diz and killed off Denise Richards' character. She was univerally disliked.
I love this movie. I saw Starship Troopers in theaters when this came out. I was 12 at that time.
One of the best satires of fascism ever made. Fantastic little film that's endlessly entertaining even while hitting you over the head with subtext the whole time.
Yet the Federation isn't fascist. There is fascist-inspired window dressing throughout the movie. But that's all a surface level gloss over a libertarian structure.
@@flatebo1 If you really believe that then maybe you should check on your own fascism there... I imagine you would be one of Hitler´s favourite voters.
So here's the story...
5 years before , Verhoeven told the writer Neumeier that he wanted to make a satire of teenagers in 1934 to 1938 germany who were swept up with H's rise and were happy. Both agreed, it would never be made.
Then Neumeier was put on "bug hunt on planet ..." something.. it was a low budget "B" science fiction film. And he remembered the parody and talked to Verhoeven about the film maybe being a vehicle for it.
Then the studio got the rights to "Starship Troopers" attached it to the film, greenlit it, and gave it a bigger budget now that VerHoeven was attached ot it.
VerHoeven incorrectly thought that anything militaristic was fascist ( by his definition, all the Allied powers during WW2 were also fascist). He read 2 chapters of the book and went "Booooring" and handed over writing to Neumeier completely. But Neumeier actually liked the book. And he dropped large parts of the book into the movie faithfully without strawmanning them (the high school class for example). He did combine Colonel Dubois and Radchek and that's typical in adaptions.
The film we got was not the satire VerHoeven thought it was-- because the book's material shined through.
So we got to see a Constitutional Republic with a limited voter Franchise, dressed up in fascist costumes and a lot of messages about personal responsibility and the importance of responsible citizens to a well functioning society. Which rang true with many.
@@macmcleod1188 It was absolutely the satire they thought it was. It couldn't be a more clear satire of fascism and every second of the film is smacking you right in the face with the incredibly hyper-fascist society they live in.
@Teeklin I agree that it is a satire... it's just not a satire of fascism.
It's a satire of militarism. But in the real world, the military is needed to avoid situations like Ukraine.
Fairhaven was traumatized as a young child and came to view militarism and fascism as the same thing. They're not.
In order to make a satire of fascism, the movie would have had to have actual fascist philosophical elements and not just fascist costumes.
The CGI in this movie is so good (especially for 1997) that y'all praised it for its "PRACTICAL EFFECTS". 😅😲
This was one of the early hugely cgi movies, it was just brilliantly done by masters of their craft.
Starship Troopers was like a lightning in the bottle moment for 90's sci-fi, till this day people have no idea if it is supposed to be satirical or not, and goddamn the vfx was just insane for its time, even to this day, it looks really good.
Um, what? Lol. You'd have to have the IQ of a walnut if you don't realize this is a satirical film.
What funny is that Verhoven was trying to make a satirical movie decrying militarism, and especially "fascism", (whatever that means in this context - it is all things to ask people), and ended up making them look cool. 😂😂😂
So the moral of the story is that propaganda is hard to avoid because how cool the idea can sound? Nailed it, lol.@@slappy8941
The book is more serious, the movie basically only gets a "fascist undertones satire" label because of the aesthetics of the uniforms and such. The message many take is "well maybe the bugs aren't the bad guys" but thats blatantly false, they're a brutal, massacring race willing to orbitally bombard civilian targets.
No that asteroid would take millions of years to traverse the galaxy, so unless the bugs were aiming at the dinosaurs it was the government taking advantage of a natural disaster to start a war.
One of the best subversively political satires in recent memory. Amazing that this movie was made before 9/11 because it totally feels like a critique of the US post-9/11.
It is a critique of fascist, overmilitarized regimes. If you think this movie resembles post 9/11 US, that says a lot about the US.
Seriously! The sudden attack, the way enlistment went from a way to pay for college to war in the blink of an eye. I really got 9-11 vibes from this.
@@EskChan19 there is zero fascism in this movie.
Name anything fascist that happened. And no, the Hugo Boss uniforms don't count.
@@KurNorock the beginning where the teacher talks about the veterans taking control is a direct reference to the Nazi street gangs being made up of German WW1 veterans... Verhoeven has spoken repeatedly about how the society in this film is inspired by the Nazis.
@@juvandy Verhoeven readily admitted he never read the book. He made a great satire film critiquing a straw man story he imagined from a book he never read, and essentially landed on making a faithful adaptation that mirrored the same messages the book made. How Heinlein, and in particular starship troopers, got this right wing or fascist label is beyond me.
I was always interested in this film, but I didn't watch it until this reaction. Solid film! Appreciate the reaction, ladies! Great work.
19:22 😂🤣🤣 Kristen u got me good 😂🤣
“Yeah, her mooshie.” 🤣❤️
i like how much personality these two have together
I feel that you REALLY don't get the true message behind this film. You were focussing too much on the 'litlte things' and thus missing the bigger picture. This is not a "we love the military' movie ladies....
great action movie with social satire and caustic humor. they don't make them like this anymore. you two make an enjoyable reaction duo.
On the hype of u guys reacting to old movies, pls consider reacting to HACKERS (1995) starring a young Jonny Lee Miller & Angelina Jolie
Hack the planet!
HACK THE PLANET !
The lady on the right has an instant grasp on close combat situations.
Casper Van Dien - one of the most beautiful men to ever walk this planet.... he came back eleven years later in ST3, and didnt appear to have aged one damn day.
Fun Fact: Carper's daughter, Grace, plays CHrissy, the .. unfortunate girl in the beginning of Season 4 Stranger THings.. THAT'S how old he is now... Sigh.
Love you two together.
You both have great laughs.
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The movie is based on the book by Robert A Heinlein who was a sci-fi writer. He was cousin of mine that I unfortunately never got to meet. He died several years ago. He also has several books and maybe another book turned into a movie.
This movie feels like a dark version of the future.
The war with alien bugs right around the corner!
Not dark enough. Now Warhammer 40k, that's dark.
Why? You see a united humanity, with enough power to conquer distant worlds, that is, by that time there would no longer be problems on Earth...
Really? Feels like the best possible scenario under the fascist path we're headed down now.
@@oscarberolla9910 And humanity has fabulous medical equipment. And at the start of the movie, an entire vacation planet.
In the book, Dizzy was a man and everybody gets killed except Johnny on page two. After that, there are lots of flashbacks to highschool where the teacher (Mr. De La Croix not Lt. Radchek) has long talks about the philosophy of voluntarism and the rewards of meritocracy.. BTW they were from Manila but Johnny's mother was visiting her sister in Buenos Aires when the asteeroid hit. Johnny's father joins the Mobile Infantry in the end. Great book but the director kind of butchered the story.
I know the feeling I grew up in a military family as well. My mother and my father served in Germany, where I was born, and then we moved back to the states Inn, they operated out of Monterey, California. My mother had to stay in the military a little longer than my dad because of the maternal leave, she took Having me and my brother and I always was hoping that she would come home then in 1989, she came home.
Love y’all’s reactions
17:42 The woman who shot the man met while making this movie and later married! How I met your mother; She blew my brains out.
You lady’s are awesome! Love y’all’s reaction.
Awesome dynamic, Achara & Kristen!
CinePals - Brenda Strong is the Captain of the Spaceship , she was the BRA lady on Seinfeld , and she was on Star Trek : next gen.
LMFAO - Kristen has got me crying laughing in this reaction!😂😂😂😂😂
Ah, Paul Verhoeven... A mad genius! His 'trilogy' is pretty incredible and amazing. It is campy greatness, it shoves your face into themes and still somehow dances around others, it is a gore fest that somehow has a meaning. It is weird and wonderful!
This is one of my favorite movies, and almost noone reacts to it. Gotta say you two had some interesting commentary to say the least 😂 loved every second of this reaction.
For anyone interested the book is also good. It’s not a parody it plays it straight, but it’s really good.
I'm not a fan of Heinlein's politics, but his SF is very good.
@@cboscari He was perhaps some sort of libertarian. As an author, he had an obsession with writing stories about different political and social systems, which made his politics hard to pin down exactly and made his books somewhat destined to be politically incorrect compared to say Asimov or Herbert.
just remember our ancestors fought bears and wolves with sticks and rocks. two species being pitted against each other is one of life's many tragedies, but when you are one of them you don't have the luxury of fighting with less than everything you've got. if you want to think about it in a nicer way, by dominating the other species to the brink of extinction you earn the luxury to spare them in the end. you create an evolutionary space for their survivors to adapt and exist in the world.
Fun fact, the young lady who shot the training guy in the head actually married him later and this is how they met lol. Still together to this day.
Paul Verhoeven is all about graphic. Love the satire and madness of this movie.
Anyone who reads the book who is familiar with the movie is in for many surprises: Dizzy Flores is a guy, Johnny's teacher is retired and never has anything to do with the Roughnecks, Carl is not psychic and dies early in the story, Carmen is never really Johnny's girlfriend and doesn't have that much to do with the story, and some main characters were invented for the movie (e.g. Zander Barcalow).
"Men are so macho sometimes. But maybe not so much now" LOL more mixed signals!
The left an important fact out of the cinema-cut of the movie: Ricos Parents are rich, but they are not cititzens. Thats why Carmens dad dissaproved of Rico and thats why Carmen refused to sleep with him until he told her, he would join up.
You two are my favorite to watch together.
So we all agree that Carmen was trash right? Dizzy was the prize
Yours truly says "only half right."
Flores was indeed a model friend (indeed, literally, a knockout), but we only react negatively to Ibanez because we are not allowed to walk two meters in her moccasins, let alone a mile. 😕
"Trash" is a hateful term to apply to people, and the more English-speakers who realize this, the closer to a better future. 🧐
In spite of this, I hope you enjoy your day. 🙂
I like the book, and I like the movie. It looked incredible when I saw it in '97, and it still looks good today.
The director is Paul Verhoeven, the same from Robocop. Both movies have those hilarious TV ads and over the top violence.
LOL "I love that line" let's see how that works out for them all
MI training was brutal in order to MAKE YOU QUIT! However, once out of training, you were expected to be the absolute best and able to do any mission given to you without hesitation or concept of stopping until the mission was completed, no matter the cost... you GOT IT DONE!
Of course, in the book, you were given absolutely EVERYTHING you needed, including the "Suit" that would make you a "one-man tank/battleship" capable of living in even the harshest conditions, including space.
The movie is a critique of militaristic societies and how they usually turn fascist.
And while the movie does makes the bugs the antagonists, the humans are not the heroes either.
A proof that Verhoeven did not portrayed the humans as the good guys, the costumes that the people in the intelligence wear are exact replicas of the uniforms of senior gestapo members.
A prop is not an argument.
The Federation is not a militaristic society. We only see the military part of that society because all of the characters are in the military. It would be like describing a country as a police state because the characters you're following in the movie are cops.
What we do see of society outside the military, like Rico's parents, pretty strongly indicate that the Federation is not a militaristic society. Is there, for example, any indication that other students in Rico's HS joined Federal service? Heck, in a militaristic society you'd expect mandatory military service. Yet the Federation requires recruits to volunteer...and discourages people from doing so while simultaneously making it extremely easy for them to quit.
I know what Verhoeven thought he was doing. He just didn't do it. Mostly because he decided to argue politics with Heinlein. And lost.
i feel like during all of the talk about "the bugs were just defending themselves" you forgot they were the ones who supposedly sent the asteroid that took out rico's home town first
It’s like the future with Napoleonic war punishments aka flogging
interesting how the two of you stared and really liked the dynamic with the idea of Carmen being interested in the other guy other than his boyfriend ,and really interesting how u say "infantry" with some disdain of the concept of being in ground fighting... interesting behavior..
DEMOLITION MAN the Left's Utopia vs Starship Troopers the Right's Utopia
34:22 ''Don't pull it out, leave it in!''
Not say that @ 9:48
You BOTH need to watch Full Metal Jacket after this....since you know, the military
So this original story was done by one of the pillars of modern science fiction Robert A Heinlein. They were able to secure the rights after a script had started been written about a human Invasion on a bug planet in with a teen romance going on. After they options the rights for the story a director was hired that director being Paul verhoeven who is best known for doing films such as Total Recall and RoboCop. However verhoeven could not finish the novel written by Heinlein because of the fascism overtones(since he had grown up in a country that was occupied during World War II). So while the script was not quite finished verhoeven set it upon himself to help out the screenwriter to make a not-so-subtle dig at Nazi propaganda by making one of the most unsubtle portrayals of fascism in modern media. Now unfortunately because of how well verhoeven leaned into the satire many people upon release did not understand that it was a satire and actually accused him of making a Nazi propaganda picture. Two things of note with this film are the creature effects and of course the score(Basil outdid himself, Kandatheu drop is a a favorite by many who love this film)
the director didn't read the book because he thought it was boring, not because it was "too fascist". the book is the exact opposite of a fascist regime
Verhoeven is so far left than anything on the right appears to be fascism to him. It's how he managed to make a "fascist" state with a democratically elected leader, who doesn't hid behind propaganda when defeated in battle and even resigns, where anyone can vote unless they are too mentally handicapped to be able to consent to federal service. With a more free and honest press than we have (live footage from a frontline without editing?). Where open dissent of the state is not punished and where even a family like Rico's that haven't been citizens in generations are part of the 1% and clearly not held back by their refusal to be citizens or do federal service. Starship troopers the book is a pretty frankly right wing, starship troopers the movie is a libertarian power fantasy with the basic window dressing of fascism in the laziest way possible, i.e. some of the imagery and uniforms. As for the propaganda, yeah it's a war movie, are we going to pretend that during major wars, WW 1 and 2 for example there wasn't similar propaganda on both the Axis and Allies sides? Nationalist =/= fascist.
there's also two sequel's Starship Troopers 2: Hero of the Federation and Starship Troopers 3: Marauder
Carmen was the girl you toxically craved. Diz was the woman you needed.
The original Helldivers 😆
Mr krabs, my favorite drill instructor
Legit the Casper Red head and Denise triangle. They were so "very healthy" in this film. That Dizz character, so adorable.
STARSHIP TROOPERS is a must read book for the Navy Academy of the U.S.A for all the officers that are going to go for a military cariear!!!
Carmen is the worst thing ever.
Breaks up with Rico because she wants to focus on her career...5 mins later flirts with Zander.
@@Macintosh1001I mean, Zander is her career in a way
Sci Fi movies like this is why I miss the 90s my childhood. You read my mind at 26:11 I would have done the exact same thing as you. You ladies also read my mind at 34:22 do not remove an object stuck in you because you will bleed out.
Funny thing: The asteroid that hit earth was sent from the bugs home world, Klendathu right? That is on the other side of the Milky Way, according to that image at the beginning of the movie. That's like 100,000 light years away. Assuming that the asteroid was traveling at the speed of light, it would have taken 100,000 years for that asteroid to hit earth. Now, that asteroid wasn't traveling that fast, so it obviously took more than 100,000 years. In fact, it would have taken longer to travel that far than how old the universe is. So before the universe even existed, the bugs sent that asteroid to earth. Dang, that's a long battle plan.
I once heard my boss, a man I respect tell me this film is a portrait of the future if the Nazis had won. I asked him if that would have been as bad as the world we live in now...he looked me in the eye, shrugged his shoulders and walked away.
Oh and by the way Robert Heinlein wrote the book. I've read it, own a first edition copy and have the T-shirt. Brilliant writer that unfortunately Vanhoven disgraced in this 'adaptation' of the original text.
I find it funny that after watching all these reactions to starship troopers that nobody realizes drill Sargeant zim is also mr. Krabbs from SpongeBob
I enjoyed this, especially the recap and thoughts at the end. Thank you for the upload!
Please do yourselves a favor and read that book (at best the uncut original) and learn how and why it was written...
I really love the movie, watched it at least a dozen times, but the book has a lot more to offer. I really wish for a new approach to adapting the original story with modern film making technology...
it is a commentary on fascism and militarism.
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned in the comments, but Michael Ironside's character (Lt. Rasczack) losing his legs was a gag as in a previous Paul Verhoven film, Total Recall, his character loses his arms.
Such a dope movie 🍿🍿🍿
I looked for the comments to see if anyone said this but no one seemed to have so I will. There are actually 2 different kinds of nuclear bombs. There is a type of nuclear bomb that will blow up without leaving radioactive fall out. The explosion itself is much smaller than an actual nuke though. Actually kind of make sense since there's are basically mortor shells.
The humans are actually the bad guys in this film
lol
@10:37 . Ok now: 35:20 lollove the reactions though Ladies!
It's a satire about a fascist society. The original book was pretty pro-fascist but the filmmaker flipped it on its head and mocked the society he created.
How is the book pro-fascist? I've read the book and I couldn't find anything overtly fascist. Unless you're going to equate militarism with fascism. But then I'd say your definition of fascism is too broad.
Sargon of Akkad (Carl Benjamin) made a video called “the politics of starship troopers”. Pretty thoughtful analysis.
@@brandonatchison4769 It's a militarized society ruled by a military elite that puts ethnic nationalism above all else. Citizenship is limited to those within the military, that includes the right to vote. It talks of societal decline and rejuvenation through violence. Textbook fascism.
Been awhile since I read the book but I don’t remember race having anything to do with their society. Rico was Filipino and Shijumi was Japanese. Kind of a global militarized society.
@@joelhenry5489 Stratocracy and limited sufferage isn't restricted to fascism and I didn't see any ethnic nationalism. The themes about societal decline and rejuvenation I interpretated as pro-capital and corporal punishment, but not fascist.
This movie was ahead of time and very good. Some people have the impression that humans were the starter of this war and the propaganda was to get the people angry and fight like the Nazis in WWII did to their people. It was a morality tale against Nazis since I think the director grew up with them in Denmark at that time.
Bruh. Genocidal bugs literally nuked an entire city. How are the humans the bad guys!?
"The bugs are just defending their home"
Yeah, almost as if maybe that asteroid was just a propaganda ploy to convince everyone to support the invasion and convince people like Rico to want to kill the bugs.
Loved your comments at the end.
Incorrect. The bugs had the ability to target ships in orbit.
"This isn't random or light. Somebody made a mistake!"
They aren't just mindless drones. They have intelligence. They started the war.
@@grenadecraig9619 Being capable of targeting ships in orbit and sending an asteroid all the way across the galaxy are two very different things.
@@lucidiously yeah and?
@@grenadecraig9619 The point is the bugs didn't send the asteroid, that was propaganda. The bugs only attacked when earthlings started to colonize their planet.
Them shooting the ships was just planetary defense.
@lucidiously you have proof, or is this just speculation?
Carmen goes to fleet academy, she feels like she has to show how smart she is and changes course because it’s “more efficient “ which puts them in the path of a meteor that hits them and damages the ship. The collision deflects the meteor just enough to send it hurdling toward earth. Long story short, Carman destroyed Buenos Aires and started a war…
Ladies, “Starship Troopers” is no longer so satirical in 2023: in the opening classroom scene, the teacher explored the failure of democracy and how the social scientists had brought the world to the brink of chaos. We are seeing that unfold in the USA right now as the “woke” agenda and mandates have gutted traditional family values and shredded the fabric of society, even as a fascist government ("Let's go Brandon!") has weaponized the FBI and Department of Justice and Internal Revenue Service against its political opponents…
Wow guy... you really don't understand satire do you?
To be fair Brandon isn't running shit, he's just the installed puppet who doesn't know where he's at but everything else is correct. It was only 2 years ago they decided who can work, where you can go, what time you can go, if you didn't take the expiremental shot they wanted you to not be in society, jobless, denied medical care and thrown in jail or camps. In Australia they actually did throw people in camps.
As Paul Verhoeven put it, "I wanted to show fascists their "perfect world", and how the only thing it was good for was killing f*ckin' bugs".
In Robert A. Heinlein's original novel, he postulated that the mobile infantry would have powered armor, and be equipped with small "pony nukes", as he put it. The book also didn't have any love inteerests/female soldiers. It was written in in 1959.
This is flat false. Carmen Ibanez is in the book, joins the navy, becomes a pilot, and they meet later and share a kiss. Her being on the rodger young and their meeting each other a few times is an important part of the book. The book also has other women in the miltary, often as pilots, and the author reinforces a few times that this is because women make better pilots than men.
13:52 @kris10 what was that? 😂😂😂
Some people will be reminded of a song called "I Lost My Heart to a Starship Trooper."" ( yeah , older people ) 😂