Derrida and Montaigne on Mourning the Friend: Harvard ACLA presentation

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  • Dr. Ellie Anderson, philosophy professor and co-host of Overthink podcast, does a read-aloud of her academic conference paper "Half-Mourning the Friend: Impossible Incorporation in Derrida and Montaigne," originally presented as part of a panel on Derrida and Montaigne at the 2016 meeting of the ACLA (American Comparative Literature Association) at Harvard University.
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  • @bellasears
    @bellasears ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is absolutely lovely! Makes me so happy to find enriching, thoughtful Continental philosophy lectures for free

  • @zahiroufkir5400
    @zahiroufkir5400 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi, you are no less than a flower in a waterless land inhabited by great philosophers. I love you beyond the power of poetry.

  • @kristenr8311
    @kristenr8311 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I just discovered your channel last week and subscribed, having watched your Derrida class/intro. Funny that your new post here also involves Derrida! I was enthralled, and just, some of the themes Derrida explores feel like exactly what concepts fit my life right now. It's like i was supposed to be delving into Derrida RIGHT NOW. ha... Anyway, thank you for this channel and your engaging and easy to conceptualize style. I am actually also mourning the loss of a dear friend, and it is partially why I forayed into exploring various philosophers, as I work through my unexpected intense grief and other things going on in life. Thanks for your posts!

    • @OverthinkPodcastPhilosophy
      @OverthinkPodcastPhilosophy  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm sorry to hear about your friend, and hope you're hanging in there! I'd also recommend philosopher Michael Cholbi's book Grief: A Philosophical Guide

    • @kristenr8311
      @kristenr8311 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OverthinkPodcastPhilosophy Thank you for the recommendation! I will look for that book!

  • @josephcoon5809
    @josephcoon5809 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    If you want the neurological explanation…
    Everything we experience is an idea. Your friend is an entirely separate entity that if you actually knew everything about them, you would just be them. As voluminous as the brain is, it still only has the capacity for one person’s experiences.
    So, we have ideas of everybody we know, and the more we know, the more neurons are allocated for that task. Being a good friend, those neurons are also tightly bound to the dopamine centers. Without understanding the difference between your friend and the idea of your friend, people will associate “the friend” to happiness rather than the idea of the friend.
    The difference is that “the friend” is required to stimulate the dopamine centers, whereas the idea of the friend is sufficient.
    ****** depression ********
    Neurons are living creatures. They require sustenance. They receive sustenance by accomplishing three simple tasks: collect data; process data into information; transmit information to be received as data by the next higher order neuron. This entire process is how ideas are formed. Groups of neurons represent ideas. The more complex the idea, the more layers of neurons are required, and the larger population of neurons are committed to the task.
    A neuron’s beat chance of survival is to be part of a useful idea; part of multiple ideas; or part of multiple useful ideas. If not, they will seek out greener pastures: more active networks. This is the entire basis of learning and forgetting. This is why students forget subjects they studied only to pass a test for but never apply. If you do not use it, neurons will look for new jobs.
    When you lose a friend, or betrayal has occurred, particular ideas are still very active, but the cognitive dissonance of reality and the virtual reality in the mind creates pain. The idea of what is cannot coexist with the idea of what one wants there to be. That pain signals that an idea must go, but that idea is part of an intricate network composed of multiple years of experiences. How hard is it to consciously forget an idea that is so integrated that everything triggers it? How do you decrease the activations of so many neurons to the point those neurons want to go find other jobs?
    Depression.
    Depression is the stick that motivates large populations of neurons to let go to find new jobs, and therein lies the problem.
    New jobs means new ideas. New ideas are the carrot. To successfully process grief (stick), you have to provide new ideas (carrots). A neuron will whither from connections to ideas that are not used, but they won’t allocate resources to new connections if there are no new connect to be had.
    This leads to the destructive behaviors many people suffer from during grief. Substance abuse provides the idea that chemicals make you feel better so those are “good” ideas. As the grief motivated neurons to let go, the idea of chemical escapism draws those neurons in. If people do not provide new “good” ideas, neurons will latch on to any new idea presented. Instead of a nutritious carrot, they get an unhealthful candy bar.
    ********
    So that’s why many failed theories occur. The pharmaceutical component offers an immediate discernible effect that the client latches onto while they struggle with the CBT to component that actually cures the ailment. CBT is slow and it’s effects are nearly undetectable over short time spans, but it is the most important part of the process.
    CBT is just a fancy way of saying “learn new ideas.” It can be anything from writing (building connections between the Broca’s Area and the motor cortex), studying new subjects, or even talking (connections like in writing) and listening (connections between the auditory cortex and the Wernicke’s Area).
    Any constructive idea will suffice.
    If you want to explain this to a construction worker, it’s like demolishing a condemned building and using the debris to build a new building. Destruction is always easier than construction, and both are necessary.
    *********
    Epilogue: The death of a friend is similar to a callostomy. The corpus callosum is the connection between both hemispheres. Each hemisphere experiences reality slightly differently and processes those experiences differently. The amalgam of both hemispheres through the corpus callosum into a single consciousness is the same process as two people spending a life time together. When the connection in either case is cut, each half has to take on the tasks they relied on the other to handle. This is why some couples die within a short time span of each other. The part of the brain stimulated by the other loses that stimulation and falls into neuropathy and cell death.
    Neurons need each other as much as we need the idea of each other…

    • @boymiyagi
      @boymiyagi ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't people with split personalities have more than one living experience in their brain?

    • @josephcoon5809
      @josephcoon5809 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@boymiyagi Everybody has a split personality. It’s just not as apparent when the corpus callosum remains intact. The left and right hemispheres are not symmetrical, and they have different overall functions on top of the similar basic functions like motor skills.

    • @alexisabercrombie133
      @alexisabercrombie133 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you

    • @Left4Bed151
      @Left4Bed151 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow!!! Thank you for this

    • @Ayesha_F
      @Ayesha_F ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow

  • @simonseverino
    @simonseverino ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We are always complete. Under any circumstance. The illusion of separation is the only thing, created by us, that makes us “half”.

  • @TheRmoroni
    @TheRmoroni ปีที่แล้ว

    YOUR THUMBNAIL HYPNOTIZED ME TO WATCH THIS!

  • @tinylittlebabyboy
    @tinylittlebabyboy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    my new favorite channel keep up the great work!

  • @CoMo272
    @CoMo272 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Plz do not Stop!!

  • @boogiejones3899
    @boogiejones3899 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent Teacher!! Thank so much. ✊🏾👌🏿

  • @user-rd6vf7xk1x
    @user-rd6vf7xk1x ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been one for so long I’d feel half to be one of two!
    Beautiful essay, loved it.

  • @acousticmotorbike2118
    @acousticmotorbike2118 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love you Ellie. You're fabulous.

  • @alinesanchezramirezbaruchi2658
    @alinesanchezramirezbaruchi2658 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Extremamente importante para a área de enfermagem.

  • @assiakessai
    @assiakessai ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just found your channel , me too I have a phd in philosophy still right now struggling to find a work in my country cause philosophy doesn't count... iam a big fan of nietzsche philosophy could you please do a video about him

  • @ineffable_potentiality_01
    @ineffable_potentiality_01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yay, this is lit.

  • @dariusrad8058
    @dariusrad8058 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many Thanks; Dear Prof, Montaigne and Etienne de la Boetie both were the founding fathers of the french humanism around 1500, therefore how they perceived friendship maybe or probably have something to do with some notions coming from their humanist philosophy and their way of life, which later I do assume Rousseau would think coming from and has roots in ancient virtue, ... and I do not really understand were the conceptual background or framework of the monsieur Derrida is, ... thanks again

  • @arangelrb
    @arangelrb ปีที่แล้ว

    wow amaizing

  • @jefmar43
    @jefmar43 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In French,Montaigne is pronounced more like « ten» than « teen». Something like the word « arraign» in English..

  • @cerdic6586
    @cerdic6586 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see you have Debt: The First 5,000 Years! Brilliant book

  • @alishaukat9174
    @alishaukat9174 ปีที่แล้ว

    💕💕💕

  • @rick91443
    @rick91443 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Parsque c'etait lui, par se que c'etait moi..." rr Normandy, Fra.

  • @sweetcell8767
    @sweetcell8767 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ellie, such a ray of sunshine; even when talking about someone as nutty as Derrida.

  • @nathanporter7334
    @nathanporter7334 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beyond good and evil what do you think?

  • @havefunbesafe
    @havefunbesafe ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve heard it’s not healthy studying too much philosophy, is that true?

    • @sirisanish5958
      @sirisanish5958 ปีที่แล้ว

      It depends on what kind of person you are. Personally I have gained very much insight from my bachelors degree. However, i did find that i was overthinking most social situation due to my specialisation in ethics. For me, I went a bit too far with thinking which made me feel disconnected from my body in some way. I could not experience things fully. On the other hand, I have discovered this and now am happy with all the insights i have gotten along the road and also about myself.

  • @monasingh-theo2859
    @monasingh-theo2859 ปีที่แล้ว

    :-)

  • @BlakeMerriam
    @BlakeMerriam ปีที่แล้ว

    Half life is a video game that created Steam

  • @shamanverse
    @shamanverse ปีที่แล้ว

    Strange solace this saying you offer. An open ended intimacy is retained.

  • @dixztube
    @dixztube ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this philosophy or poetry lol

  • @BillyMcBride
    @BillyMcBride ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know, but I would be careful absorbing too much Derrida lest your hair turn completely white sooner than later. Montaigne can stay though.

  • @bdwon
    @bdwon ปีที่แล้ว

    So sad . . . read throughs are tedious, even yours 😢 Take it from the ancient rivals to the philosophers: Rhetoricians recommend impromptu-AKA, extemporaneous-delivery.

    • @moil6384
      @moil6384 ปีที่แล้ว

      such a useless comment