Who Is The Best Member Of THE SHIELD?! STEINER MATH VS PIPEBOMB SHOWDOWN! | Gripebombs
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- partsFUNknown presents the first episode of Gripebombs! A pro wrestling debate show hosted by Tempest where only the best arguments settle scores! Today we find out once and for all who the best member of The Shield is as Oli Davis, Luke Owen, and Laurie Blake do battle in verbal warfare!
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Luke is here saying "Ospreay vs. Danielson is the best match of the year objectively" and I'm screaming at my phone like "THAT’S WHAT THE QUESTION IS, YOU ARE JUST SAYING OLI IS RIGHT. WHAT KIND OF ARGUMENT IS "it's expected to be the best match"?! WHAT ARE YOU DOING, LUKE
He’s an idiot, the sooner you realize it, the better
He's a moron, so there's that...
his argument made zero sense
@@threearmedonion he never does, Luke just says some stuff that never make sense, he’s an idiot. Hopefully if they continue doing this, the choices they make are the ones they truly believe.
CM Punk has zero belief today in the things he said in that pipe bomb and one can argue he's the opposite of that person today. Steiner still believes what he said and is still that person today. Math > Pipebomb
The greatest thing about Steiner Maths is it needs no context. The Pipebomb is all context.
Biggest takeaway from this show. Oli comes prepared, Laurie is a great debater, and Luke can't debate his head out of a paper bag.
Luke was right though. The polls were right and this is right. It's factually accurate😂
Sure but it’s just like Luke was saying. Because Laurie is great at everything, it’s just boring to say he’s great at this too
My biggest takeaway is that Tempest has long hair under that mask
@@matthewaltepeter8941 And he's Canadian, so is it Chris Jericho under that mask?
Laurie didn't come accross as a "great debater" at all. Besides one round, he consistently had the weakest arguments
I never knew I needed a wrestletalk debate show until now
As someone who doesn’t watch NRB, it’s great to see Laurie back on the wrestling stuff. Not going to lie, his inclusion is what got me to watch this as much as I did.
The legend goes that Laurie was soon fired after the stream ended by Oli.
We just witnessed the villain origin story of Ollie Davis. The look on his face, this is a broken man.
Oli has always been the villain.
he's the boss of the company he has never been the good guy this the villain getting what he deserves
The villain has to think they're right. But ultimately: they have to be wrong.
The result of this debate can easily be explained through some math.
The moment Laurie was added to the mix, Olis chances of winning DRASTIC went down. You see Oli, in a 3 way debate you got a 33⅓ chance of winning, but Luke! He got a 66⅔ chance of winning cause Laurie KNOWS he can't beat him so he is not even gonna try.
The numbers don't lie, and they spelled disaster for Oli.
You sir a genius
Math gives us Engineering
Engineering gets us bombs
Ergo, Math is greater than Pipebomb
Math>Pipebomb Now. Forever. Together.
This could be the next PFK printed t-shirt on sale in the summertime. ☀️ 😂
☝️
Nope, Oli and Sully are right. Pipebomb>Maths
@@JaimeD.I'll buy it, too.
@@mageside The Pipebomb achieved what it set out to do. Oh wait. No it didn't lol.
1:52:15 - _partsFUNknown would like to wish Laurie Blake the best in his future endeavours._
It’s everything I want in a video. Couple lads arguing about wrestling I love it
actually using adult logic but remaining very funny
Oil’s face at the end when Math was declared the winner was the cherry on top.
Oli needs to have a depression storyline where he feels betrayed like Sting and returns like Crow Sting for his redemption arc
Love this as a new show. Hope it continues
Oli's face at the end needs to be a shirt.
Really enjoyed how you guys broke down the debate of the greatest member of the sheild, Honestly as somebody who watched from start to end Oli and Luke breaking down the rise and breakup of the faction, it was a logical starting point to begin this with the "2 birds one stone" treatment, while settling the "which promo is better" you guys also found a great way to tie the sheild breakup aftermath in nice bow. Great job.
The WrestleTalk version of the Cornette Face shirt/meme.
There was a 33 and 2 3rds chance of me enjoying this
That honestly not very good odds
@@tomashernandez3076
Luckily Kurt Angle wasn’t added to the mix.
@@ArcanaEricwe didn't account for Kaz
We all know math had a 100% chance of winning at sacrifice
Edit: Spelling
Actually it's 141 2/3 percent
Pipebomb had a 33 and a thirds chance.
The numbers don't lie
Spelling certainly doesn't if you're spelling it as Sacrafice
At least 141 percents chance 😏
You know I only come on TH-cam just to watch this channel. Always love the content
In a complete twist, I honestly and truly haven't watched wrestling since the early 2000's, but I'm here for the content too
I love Luke's argument for best match of the year literally ruins his argument but he says it with so much confidence.
Ollie yours is the best match of the year but it was always going to be
Ok debate settled then 😂
Great format guys! I had a blast! Keep it up! Greetings From Hungary!
Finally decided fair and square. As it should've been in the first place
Love seeing new video concepts on this channel!
WrestleTalk lads all have such great chemistry together. More Sat tho
Pipebomb got tons and tons of people back into wrestling. Steiner maths made people laugh. The pipebomb is easily the better promo
Oh how I've missed Laurie! He's the heart and soul of this company. Believe that.
You can see the exact moment Oli’s heart is ripped out
Now you need to put Ollies face on a tshirt next to Cornettes. Now time to watch the math promo
The numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for Oli
Oli’s reaction at the end needs to be the react thumbnail going forward
We need a t-shirt with Steiner Math and Oli’s face at the end😂😂
I was in stitches watching his reaction
I’ve listened to both promos a bunch of times
But I can’t recall ever making non fans watch the pipe bomb…
So……
Wow,I can't believe I just got glued to the screen watching this,I enjoyed it so much
Bo's cat gimmick = Bo DalHiss
I genuinely believe Seth is the best from the shield. Most reliable, was the one they put the belt on when Roman wasn’t ready. I think they are all on the same level but Seth always felt like the guy I wanted if I could only pick one of the 3 for my promotion.
Movie Fights doesn't exist anymore. So this'll have to do.
Stiener math is funny, but its just a meme, its a planned out meme at that. The pipe bomb legit brought back people to wwe who were leaving or left.
Voice of the voiceless vs calculator of the dummies 😂 EPIC
I also have an unironic love of MITB 2020. Probably one of the only proper pandemic matches I’d go back and watch. It’s just so funny.
Thank you guys for talking about our interview with Bret Hart , we rebranded as “digitally dreaming off the gridiron podcast” we’ve had lots of guests from Justin credible to Ken shamrock. Some of those were even better than the “ayy 👕one pod” yes I spelled it like that
The end of this video is the worst thing ever to happen on this channel.
The look on Ollie's face is one of the greatest things I have ever seen.
Biggest robbery ever.
Would love to see this take inspo from more elements of 'Movie fights' that screen junkies used to do! Been waiting ages for one of the wrestling channels to do something like this.
Better than the Presidential Debate
It’s like Movie Fights; but Wrestling. I’m here for it.
U know ball
Can someone put chapters for all the arguments made. I wanna see the Math v Pipebomb debate but I don't wanna comb the video to find it
Love the new format! Keep it going
This is soooooooo good! Missed Laurie talking bout some wrestle bollocks too.
I guess WT finally opened my email from 2020 where I pitched them this concept 😅
Oli, from the bottom of my heart, don't burden yourself with this loss. Some times people forget to add Laurie Blake to the mix. Things happen, bruv
I love seeing the guys argue about wrestling. Thumbs up 👍
There's no way even Luke believes that math > pipebomb 😂 fun joke though.
This is fantastic! I love it. It's like a bite-sized deep dive, something I wasn't sure could be done, but you have absolutely pulled it off.
After their arguments i searched for math and not pipebomb, thats why math > pipe, it has researchable value
How does Laurie turn Oli into a Simpsons character at the end?!
“It was at this moment you could see Oli’s heart break.”
This is great! And cannot wait to see more topics debated.
Best Royal Rumble.
Best Iron Man match.
2nd best WrestleMania.
The list of possibilities are endless!
Ollie actually swayed me a little there, but Luke brought me back, Pipebomb mattered a lot to us that watched at the time, but Maths will outlive us and be loved by every generation. Actually wild.
Iyo VS Bayley is what I thought the best match at Wrestlemania was, too.
Great debates, love this idea, look forward to the next one.
Pipebomb was iconic but it did nothing for anyone. Punk left. Super Cena stayed for a few years. Vince was running the company into the ground. It did nothing.
Seeing the OG triple threat of Oli, Laurie and Luke warms my heart it does.
Long live El Fakador!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!! MATH > PIPEBOMB!!!
I think Oli should have that tattooed on his chest by Scott Steiner.
Enjoy the format. Look forward to more episodes. I think you should throw in some occasional blind questions, like they used to do on Movie Fights, to see them squirm on the spot. Maybe even multiple choice so the last to pick gets stuck with an answer they might not want. For example: Who would win a triple threat for the U.S. title? Homelander Cody, '99 Kurt Angle, or Real American Hogan?
Absolute robbery omg. That was so much fun.
YOU’RE DEAD TO ME, LAURIE BLAKE!
No way in hell was 12 years of consistently horrendous booking worth getting the tribal Chief character. Think of all the names that were just thrown away because "we need to get Roman over" or "We need to make Roman look strong."
2015-2020 is 5 years
@@lifeofwill8733 yeah, no way it's 12 freakin years it starts from RR 2015 TO March 2020, it's five years 🤦🏻
Dudes only been on the main roster for 12 years
True. Itself either Rollins or Mox by default
Your maths is worse than Steiners
Love this concept. It's movie fights but pro-wrestling.
Beginning the war by scott Hall is the most important prome and the best promo ever
Tempest absolutely needs a gavel and perhaps a powdered wig. He needs to show his authority in this court! Objectively.
Or have him dress up like The Undertaker, who usually presided over any Wrestlers’ Court
@@darthquaider54 beat me too it
I'm just saying I see more people recite Steiner math than the pipebomb
This is like Movie Fights from Screen Junkies
Really like this new format the sound just needs a bit of improvement. That’s all, nice work keep it up.
1:35:48 is when Maths vs Pipebomb starts
I love this new series. I hope you all do this more often.
Future video debate idea. Best career of the 2002 ovw class between John randy Brock and Dave
Really liked this show!
I think one thing that people who mythologise the pipebomb like to forget is that WWE was on board with it.
They didn't know exactly what it would be but Punk did not go into business for himself to tell the audience all the things they weren't supposed to hear. It is not the Daniel Bryan-story, where the fans changed the business united behind this one guy they believed in.
It was WWE's way to adress their own disgrunteld audience and bring them back ...
Hell.... in....a.....cell..... that negates Laurie's entire argument that Seth never had a failure.
And he never truly recovered. Seth is too good to be down, but sometimes we forget how great that IC to Univ. run was.
Seth's never been the top guy in any company because unfortunately he isn't THAT great.
@@MZOPMB I think he had a chance. He really was on the run of a lifetime before he started to self sabotage online then that HIAC match and that really did him in. A year or so later Romans reign begins, then Cody comes back. Damn lol
Seth's win/loss record makes him the best of the group. He has lost an insane number of matches, being trusted to put over other talents and keep his own momentum through sheer star power. Meanwhile, Roman's entire career is defined by having been allowed to win every match - an opportunity almost anyone in the company could make work.
Kevin Owens fought El Generico on several occasions. How are they the same person?
Best To Worst Overall: Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns, Dean Ambrose.
Seth Rollins is Triple Crown Champion and Grand Slam Champion, was the Shield member to win the WWE Champion, won the Royal Rumble and MITB. He can cut a promo, go in the ring, get over as a face or heel, he's held three different world championships and is the only Shield member who has held the NXT Championship. Seth Rollins is considered a workhorse and the modern day Shawn Michaels.
Roman Reigns was the first Triple Crown Champion and Grand Slam Champion, he's main evented the most WrestleMania's, is the longest reigning world champion in the modern era and the 4th overall in superlative reigns. However he wasn't the best at cutting promos until he turned heel and wasn't over as a face for over 4 years. And I honestly don't think he'll be able to pull off being a face when he returns.
Dean Ambrose is also a Triple Crown Champion and Grand Slam Champion, he's a former MITB winner, he can cut a promo, was over as a face but only partially over as a heel when not apart of The Shield. He can also go in the ring but he was never given a fair shot. He was WWE Champion once for 69 days, didn't have a memorable US Championship run, never main evented WrestleMania and was only on the main roster for a little over six years, almost half the time he was teaming up with Seth Rollins or Roman Reigns if not facing them, and if he was still in WWE he might get another world title reign but no more after.
People need to stop saying "if you remove this stuff from this match, this other match is better." Well, yea, if you remove half of my money, I'll be poorer. But you can't take things out that actually happened. "If you take out all the things that made this match awesome, it wasn't awesome." Cody/Roman II is not just my match of the year, it's going to be remebered as arguably the greatest WrestleMania main event of all-time.
Should’ve known tempest was gonna pick Dean 😂
Personally: Moxley > Rollins > Roman
Roman's reign as head of the table (which really overstayed it's welcome in my opinion) does not make up for the YEARS of terrible booking we had to endure with WWE trying to get him over. I love Rollins and I always did like him more in WWE than I did Ambrose, but when Dean left and became Moxley again he had some of my favourite matches and moments in AEW and NJPW.
The swerve at the end should have been Laurie revealing a "Tear in my eye > pipebomb + maths" T-shirt, thus making the entire episode a draw.
Oh I hope for more of this show, I love this
I'll rate this according to Bret Hart's criteria (out of 10)
IN RING :
Rollins - 9.5
Moxley - 8.5
Reigns - 8
PROMO :
Reigns - 9.5
Moxley - 9
Rollins - 8.5
Look/Presence :
Reigns - 10
Rollins - 8.5
Moxley - 8
Overall:
Reigns -27.5
Rollins - 26.5
Moxley- 26
Moxley is the best promo
Moxley is the best promo
When did this happen? 🤔
A good joke is what this comment is
Brother in no world is reigns a better promo than mox. Hard disagree
MATHS! MATHS! MATHS! MATHS! MATHS!
Education has won. Long live the educational proprietors who enable such great mathematical thought to be dreamt and thus win this debate. MathsGREATERthanPIPEBOMB!
Love it!! Movie Fights but with wrestling
PipeBomb > Math.
I will die on this hill and wouldn’t mind if someone took me out on it and buried me.
so this is movie fights but wrestling? ok i can get onboard
Only started this and I have to say, I can quote the whole Steiner math promo while only know the "Hi Colt Cabana" line from the pipebomb off the top of my head so I have a favorite going into it
It's great to see Laurie Blake again, he was the best debater by far
Hard times > Pipebomb & Math. It deserves to be in the conversation.
I actually agree.
Not really. Neither Ollie or Luke think either of those promos are the best. It was just a joke because Steiner makes no sense ever and the Pipebomb is iconic despite the fact it achieved nothing. Watch the video where they talk about the 10 best promos.
I really hoped someone would have argued for Dex being the breakout. Dudes been great everywhere he's been, from the InDex work to Creepy Bastard Sam Shaw in TNA.
If I may add something to the first debate in defense of Roman Reigns. He went through the most vitriol out of the SHIELD brothers. I remember those days of the Boos, the death and assault threats against Roman and his family, the fans throwing replica briefcases at him. no one would have blamed him for walking away. And yet he kept going and came out as one of the best wrestlers of our generation.
I think we should go forward with this format in a more transparent way. I don't believe that all 3 of them have seperate answers to these questions. They should look at the 3 best answers to these questions, and then they represent one answer each randomly. Then there would be no need for suspension of disbelief
Olli made alot of quick small errors that a fact checker should've rocked him on. Lol
I am really happy to see a debate style show being given a chance but hope that this format will be refined and shortened. For example, a strict 60 second time limit to present your argument and more focus on fantasy booking topics such as "Who should be Cena's last opponent?" rather than just "What is the best...?".
If anyone has ever listened to the BBC's Fighting Talk show then that would be a good format to adapt for wrestling. Especially the Defend the Indefensible round where the contestant has to debate in support of something they don't agree with (e.g. Oli has to argue why CM Punk is a bad wrestler).
48:15 i was gonna make a pipebomb reference to argue against Ospreay being the easy option but I can’t go against my people
Looking forward to this