How A Blind Person Uses A Computer
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- Tommy Edison, who has been blind since birth, shows how he uses the computer to send an email. The MacBookPro has an Accessibility preference called Voice Over which reads the screen to him.
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I went to middle school with a blind girl. One time, I watched her use an iPad. It was fascinating.
It was modified for blind people. The screen was pitch black. She would hold it in a position close to her ear, with her fingers on the screen.
She tapped the screen really rapidly. I couldn't tell what she was doing, but she knew. Every time she did anything, Siri spoke at lightning speed. Too quickly for me to hear it, but this girl understood.
I watched her go to the App Store and download a history app for Social Studies.
It just looked like she was leaning her ear to it, wiggling her fingers on the black screen, while Siri was like "Apstacsbltyschinfrsilsudesdnldingipn."
It was crazy. And she knew what she was doing.
Illoosion Just goes to show that the human brain is an amazingly adaptable system.
Illoosion While I'm not sure exactly what model IPad she was using, But the blank screen is called the screen curtain, triple finger triple tap on stock voiceover.
Its there so nosey joes can't look down at all her information! (it also saves a LOT of battery!)
+Illoosion its amzming how ur other senses come to life when ur blind. u hear better, smell better, etc. of course, its not like marvel daredevil stuff, but im sure a blind person could hear ur silent fart.
+XD One silent fart hearing? yep, they've definitely got that.
On android you have an app that does that better it reads out stuff and you control it with the volume buttons.
you must know so many shortcuts and hotkeys that most of us dont lol
Everyone should know shortcuts and hotkeys, it makes you a power user.
@Nemesis Don't paint us all with one brush, I consider it a failure whenever I resort to using one of those things.
edit: this youtube comment interface is horrible I just ended up using the mice to pull down my comment because there's no easy other way
@@oakleysierney1918 knowing hotkeys makes you a sheep.
code your own tools/extensions to be a power user
@@stephenkamenar Your comment demonstrates you have no concept of what the term 'power user' even means.
Let me help you out.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_user
_"A power user may not have extensive technical knowledge of the systems they use[6] and may not be capable of computer programming or system administration, but is rather characterized by the competence or desire to make the most intensive use of computer programs or systems."_
This is amazing! And I love how he's always so happy in cheerful in his videos. :)
maybe he doesn't know he's cheerful
+Jack Moody that's actually a very valid point. He's never seen someone with a frowny face before!
Why do people always mention how happy he is? I mean yes he is very positive and it a great to see... but it's almost as if people expect him to be sad. Being blind is normal for him, he has nothing to be sad about as far as that goes.
D-Ren BeatBOX because for a guy that is unable to see the faces of love ones in the world or any of the beautiful scenery. he is very positive even to make jokes about his own condition.
I am using voice over to type this right now
I am blind as well
I wish you everything best, my friend! I am also using in many cases TH-cam just to listen to videos, so I understand.
You just want attention right?
I do not. But think what you must
tys tech tips Oh im so sorry dude I should have replied earlier, I saw one of your vids and you were acrually blind, so sorry
weird for a blind guy to do bop it reviews
Tommy, I'm so happy that you know how to type. There are tons of sighted people (like many newspersons) who never bothered to learn! You are showing them up!!!
I think she's talking about touch typing. And not some weird 2 finger style xD
Nadine L
Exactly! Real typing requires all of your fingers. It's similar to knowing how to play the piano vs. just playing Chopsticks.
Typing is more of muscle memory for your fingers, it's pretty surprising that a blind person has muscle memory for something he never seen. His keyboard may have braille on it though.
Yes, his keyboard can have braille, and you can notice there are bumps on your keyboard (F and J letter), so even without braille you can find your way on a keyboard. Also muscle memory is more about touch than about sight, that's why a blind person has it, maybe even better than a sighted person.
My screen reader crashes every program it tries to read, and almost everything is inaccessible. It makes me want to cry sometimes.
Watching this after binge watching Marvel's Daredevil on Netflix, who else?
iamhim #nop
iamhim fucki thought i was the only one
Sameeee
iamhim yeah buddy
iamhim yup
Tommy, I have learned so much from your channel, and I just wanted to thank you. You have such a charming personality that I just couldn't help but become a fan. Keep being you, my man, because you make the world just a little bit better every time you give us that cheesy grin. Look forward to your next video, and learning something new. - Rem
Agreed :)
haha, imagine using a laptop without a screen! That would work perfectly fine for a blind person :)
Re that would look so cool to see a blind person using a laptop that just looks like a keyboard
My friend actually had a laptop with no screen and he needed to plug it into a monitor anytime he wanted to use it.
most laptops can have their screens removed without it affecting how well it works.
The newer alva braille displays incorporate a braille keyboard and
bluetooth. So with a headset and the braille line you can use it
anywhere the bluetooth reaches with a desktop PC. It wouldn't take much
to integrate a U series Intel CPU. RAM, SSD and you'd have a full
notebook without the display which would be even more portable than an ultrabook.
Could save $$$ buying a laptop with a broken screen.
That moment when a blind guy types faster than you do.... :/
He's blind, not dismembered.
If you type slower than that you're probably a 70 year old who doesn't understand computers.
P.Gut -- Not really
I'm in my mid 20s and I still type slower than him.
It's not that crazy, honestly. Anyone who uses a keyboard frequently enough generally reaches a point where they type through muscle memory, not visual cues. So not being able to see wouldn't really affect it all that much.
I can type just fine with my eyes shut, though that voice reader thing her* has would be pretty useful for making sure you didn't hit the wrong key or something, since that happens occasionally, especially when you go too fast.
(and yes, I did type that last paragraph with my eyes shut)
*see, that voice thingy would have really helped there xD
If you open your eyes and leave them open for a while do your eyes start to get teary?
SuNiyah Wilson does your mom get teary?
@@slavserbiansoldiersss8886 this is the worst "burn" I've seen in a long fucking while, my god
The people who have disliked this have bo hope in humanity
He has one organized fucking desktop…
Thanks Tommy, I am expanding my career as a web developer and your video, from 2013, helped me to understand better how to code for the blind. You are great!
I was amazed to see how well he knew his way around the keyboard! I make so many mistakes, the following is my attempt to type this same message with my eyes closed (And I'm pretty sure my laptop autocorrects some):
I was amazed to see how well he knew his way aoridn the keyboard, I make so man mistakes, the following is my attejojot ti type this same message with y=my eyes ckised (And ilm oretyu sure my laptop sutocorrecyd some)
Here's my attempt at saying "I was amazed to see how well he knew his way around the keyboard!" with my eyes closed WITHOUT auto correct. I was amaxed to drr goe erll hof war arpomj ukre pkeybiyaf!
Fuck me I'm horrible at typing....
SABER GAMER ahaha same
its really not as hard as you might think it is. i learnt how to do it ages ago, it just takes practice. just keep using your typing skills every day and little by little you will get better. one day you will be as good as me, i typed this entire message with my eyes closed. if i can learn to do it than so can you, i wil leave thismessage (this message) unedited for you so you can see.
"I was amazed to see how well he knew his way around he keyboard! I make so many mistakes< the following is my attempt to type this same message with my eyes closed (And I'm pretty sure my pc doesn't have any sort of autocorrect, lol)"
And that not my main laguage, so I don't write on english that much.
I'm tryung to write wutg my eyes ckide¡¡sed and i feem us fiunbg terruvme
Oh looooooooool
i like how in every new video in that part of his house his paintings change and i noticed that the small one is allways a CD cover really nice touch, i like it, by the way keep making videos i really appreciate them
Tommy, it's great to see your stories and videos getting so much attention. People are eager to listen, set aside prejudices and learn how disability really is like. In most cases, just normal! We are a small association of blind young people, based in Italy, and we do a little bit the same; we try to help sighted people to better understand who we are, just by telling our stories. Also, we collect and share tools and ideas to improve blind people's everyday life. We really enjoy your channel, it really is inspirational for us, so keep it up! :)
Oh wow, I didn't know about this feature! I'm gonna set it up for my grandmother because she can't see the screen or keyboard.
I once had to activate voiceover because my monitor settings were messed up. It was interesting
He's so sweet! He just seems like the best and loyal friend. I cry when I watch these just seeing how inspirational he is. :)
That's a pretty nice feature, does Windows have anything like that?
I've had a look, and yes it does, under Ease of Access :D
+Yella Dart its not that good. most people use a program called J.A.W.S.
On the keyboard there are little bumps on the F and J keys so he can align his hand properly on the keyboard using his 2 index fingers thats the home keys.. And he can work out the location of the keys on the keyboard for example the upper right of the F key is T and the lower right is V etc.. Its pretty amazing how hes learned to type without been able to see in the first place!
spamming blind ppl how low can you get XD
2009 macbook pro
Voice Over will read screen to blind people.
There is dock and finder for any apps at the macbook to help blind people search it with just simple click. The VoiceOver would sound the apps and when it said "Mail", he click spacebar to select/open it.
He hit cmand N to write new email. Then he type with confidently and as fast as lightning. The VoiceOver will repeat the word he texted to tell if there were typo or something.
Then.
My gf is blind. We talk a lot and she doesn't like to be away from me cause she cant find her way back :(
Tommy suggested that we turn on Voice Over while our friends aren't looking, but in middle school, we did that all the time. On anyone's unguarded Chromebook, we would turn the volume up to max, turn on the screen reader, then shut it as quickly as we could. At the start of every other class, someone's Chromebook would loudly exclaim that its screen reader was turned on.
WOW!! you're blind and you type better than i do !
+Christopher Gilkes Get a blank keyboard with a printed keyboard layout near you. Practice as much as you can. You can also use an alternative keyboard layout like Dvorak or Workman in order to optimize the typing accuracy and speed.
Where do you post/update most frequently? I LOVE these videos but I need more of you! I'm even contemplating joining Twitter just for you!
I typed this whole thing with my eyes closed. Because I learned to type in high school in the 80's. Tommy learned to type from a young age. If you can't type blind or with your eyes closed, you don't actually now how to type.
+ECLECTIC DOMESTIC
Last week we had a typing lesson with our parents so that we learn to type without looking at the keyboard.
+ECLECTIC DOMESTIC I'm replying with my eyes closed. Let's see how it goes.
It's all about typing long enough. You don't need to learn blind typing, it just happens. After years off typing you just remember where each key is. (Yup, didn't look at the keyboard once while typing it).
Ok I;m writing this with my eyes closed.
Oh my god I did it right!
I already saw assholes on youtube... But that's the first time I see someone brag because she can type with her eyes closed...
Have you used a braille computer before? My friend has one since his parents are blind, and they seem really cool. You can do lots of stuff on them and it means you don't need to have text to speech running to use them
You are a big inspiration to lots of people. Especially to my teacher because she is making a persuasive essay with something you said in a video.
Wait a minute.. how do you click on something though?
you don't have to use the mouse. you can use the tab button to go through things or windows in order.
I saw him clicking on something though.. the cursor moving..
StarFox0984
I guess he memorized simple things.
0:21 to 0:25
How would you remember to do that? There's no way anyone could do that with the cursor and without looking..
StarFox0984 this might burst your bubble but..... maybe this was done by someone else!!! (DUN DUN DUUUUNN!!!)
Typing is one of those amazingly cool things that both blind people and sighted people can do without actually ever looking at or being able to see the keys. It boggles my mind how so many people don't understand how Tommy can type without seeing... just go and take a keyboarding class again, and you can learn to type without ever looking at the freaking keyboard. It's based off feel more than sight, so it makes sense that yes, even blind people can type.
I'm gonna go ahead and do this to my roommate's Mac every time he's out of the room!
I just wonder. How do you know how to get to the voiceover option?
Maybe you can ask the salesperson in the store to set it up for you before you take it home, or you could get a family member or friend to do it for you? That would be my guess.
He says it in the video
+YangSing1 When new from store or after a fresh install, the Mac will after 20 seconds of inactivity talk and offer to activate voice over.
Behind Tommy, there's a The Who poster showing the cover of their album "Who's Next" which is why Tommy replied the way he did :)
I can see and he tips faster than me, just to let you know how bad I am at typing
Doshua Barksdale He "tips" faster than you?
yes he "tips" faster than me, I was so amazed at how fast he types that I didn't pay attention to spelling, SORRY >:[
+Doshua Barksdale - I think that being blind is helpful is this case, since blind people tend to have better proprioception
+Doshua Barksdale because he learned to touch type... any sighted person can type that way if they learn actual typing instead of keyboarding.
+ECLECTIC DOMESTIC that's not a superpower
I Have A Great Respect For You,, And One Of The Reasons Why,, Is Because You're Always Smiling
Touch typing. On the F and J keys, there are two dots that you can use to find out where your fingers are on the keyboard, and this way one can type without looking, or being able to look, down on the keyboard.
If you want to be able to type quickly, for example, I believe knowing how to touch type is quite essential. When I type, I type about 90 to 95 wpm (words per minute).
why do blind people always use graphical interfaces? why not something Text based without a mouse? for example a Unix shell.
+volleyballschlaeger i think because lots of people(including blind people) need something that is easy to use
+MattIsAGamer Canada how do you define easy? Walking is much easier than using a wheelchair that you control with your mouth. why do people who are paralyzed from their neck down not just walk?
it doesnt make sense to use a gui with a braille line. you can try it yourself. turn of your display and connect a small textdisplay to your serial port and try to use windows with this textdisplay.
+volleyballschlaeger guis are meant to be easy to use (mostly), so if he uses that, it would be easier for him, because if he uses something like unix, he would have to memorize a bunch of commands (probably confusing, im not sure)
Guis are meant to be easy for seeing people.
+volleyballschlaeger all computer companies have to make their computers appeal to a wide range of people, even if it means appealing to blind people
When you're blind/visually impaired, you start learning how to type a bit younger then most kids, and you're actually expected to do it correctly without looking (W/out looking in the case of visually impaired) That's been my experience at least.
im typing thi with my eyes ckised
Oh crap!
I'm replying to this with my eyes closed
God bless gboard autocorrect lmao
@TommyEdisonXP
I really have nothing to ask, I just wanted to say you are an inspiration for always looking on the bright side of things, not just with big things but with everything. You just are a generally nice guy and I am glad Earth has a guy like you! Keep on keeping on!
As long as I can find the ridges on the F and J key, I can type anything with my eyes closed. Like this comment lol.
I learned to type back in 6th grade. For fun my friends and I would blind fold ourselves during free time and see how well we can type. I often won. Even today I can type pretty well without looking at the screen. My kids once saw me doing this as I spoke to them and they were stunned. lol I did it naturally without thinking.
I don't even need those ridges, my arms just fall natural and I can also write 90 words in one minute. boom roasted
I never even trained myself, I just have a natural talent.
I also have long fingers which I can use to finger girls, but they also allow me to write Shift + 8 without problems and do combinations as such, while also putting on " ' "; "; ",".
Bltch Erica uh congratulations? (lol)
Why would anyone vote this video down? It was short, to the point and I thought it was pretty cool that they have that.
Poor guy, probably doesn't know he's using a mac
LMAO
i like how he is laughing in just about all of his thumbnails!
You are the most amazing man! I am addicted to watching your videos and you deserve more and more subscribers!! i will try to help you and spread your videos everywhere and i wish that everyone notices you because you deserve it...
i always thought if i became blind it would cripple my ability to do any normal task, but tommy showed me that you can always adapt.
I am blind, and I love the Screenreader known as Voiceover!
On most keyboards, there are tiny ridges on the F and J keys, you can use these to find out where your fingers are supposed to go on the keyboard. If you put your index fingers on these ridges, and the other fingers on the ones to the sides of them, then eventually memorize the relation between the keys, you'll be able to touch type.
Of course, I assume T. E. had someone to tell him where the different keys are, and that it's far more difficult for him to learn it, but in concept it's the same.
I am honestly amazed I am not mocking you, but you don't let your blindness get in the way
Dude, you are the top man you actually brighten up my day (bad thing to say to a blind person i know which i am sorry for but i don't know how else to put it.) You just seem so kind hearted, full of energy and life, an all around top guy who just seems to be happy all the time. I'm twenty and male but the cuteness of how you see life and your perspective on things makes me have happy tears to go with a smile when I'm watching your video's, you're just a great part of this world.
This is my favorite TH-cam channel. Thanks, Tommy!
There would most likely be an ASL (hearing) interpreter depending on the scenario - whether it be a friend, family member, etc. with them. Some deaf people can also speak (having learned English through speech therapy/lessons), so there's that too. I've taken some ASL classes and have deaf friends and that's what I've found to be common. :D
This is completely amazing 'cause it must be really difficult to learn where all the words are. It can be easy for us, but not for a person who cannot see if a button has the letter "a" for example.
Good luck and great work. Regards from Spain
God bless you. You inspire me in many ways.
Have you ever heard of Eşref Armağan? The turkish painter born without eyes, but still manages to use colors, light, shadow and perspective in his paintings.
I'm partially sighted and use screen magnification software. I use one called Zoomtext and one called Qzoom. Great video Tommy!
I suppose if the computer keeps telling you which letter you typed, but I remember using my eyes A LOT to learn! Even just memorizing the layout and stuff (QWERTY doesn't mean much if you can't see it!) I think it's a great feat anyhow...
Oh that is a great idea, as an artist I can say sculpting can be quite a bit of fun, and very possible to do blind. I hope he does a video one it :)
Always good to see a new video, one of my favorite TH-cam channels.
Wow he types so good without vision... and I can't type even half as fast lol
He actually even has a video with him driving around a car park somewhere on his channel!
You know those little dashes on the f and j, those are brail keys so a blind person can learn where those are and be taught where keys are in accordance to it.
Just to make this clear. Windows also has this feature. Its called Accessibility/Ease of Access in Windows. Also you can use the windows key + U on your keyboard.
The feature where Windows 'talks' to you is called Narrator.
Just sayin.
Have you ever had the chance to drive? My husband let his blind friend drive and it was a thrill for both of them.
It's called touch typing and is how you're supposed to be able to type. Notice that there are two little nubs on the F and J keys. Those are where your pointer fingers go, and your other fingers align on the adjacent keys (the home row keys). Then every other key is reached with those fingers moving around.
It might even be easier to learn if you can't physically look at the keyboard because you're forced to and can't cheat by looking.
If it's a familiar place, it's fairly easy. They may not be able to see but I'm sure they can still recognize landmarks through sound and touch. And if they are not someplace familiar, or they get lost, they can just ask someone.
very inspiring mate! Good job!
Yes, he's actually driven a car in one of his videos, you should be able to find it if you search for "TommyEdisonXP How a blind person drives a car".
I like taking my friends iPhones and turning on VoiceOver, zoom, and screen curtain at the same time.
Screen curtain just makes the screen black so people can't see what you are doing.
And you can use zoom at the same time (which is weird because why would you need zoom if you have screen curtain... but it really confuses people because they can't see what's going on).
Oh my god, I will never stop doing that. Thank you.
this is great for my foreign grandparents, thanks! :)
Yes he can. Did you not just watch the above video explaining how he has special software that reads stuff on his computer out loud to him? Even if he didn't it's as easy as getting a friend to read it for him.
Tommy definetely needs to make a video about this, there's some viral potential ;)
Tommy you rock!
note sure if all keyboard have the embossment, my typewriter an olympus regina de lux or something like that, did not have those embossments.
That answers my other question before I even asked it about how you can write on Twitter and Facebook. I forgot there's a voice over for the computers.
Tommy, you are amazing!
The F and J letters on a keyboard have a texture or lip, and they use that to orient their hands on the keyboard. The rest is learned.
I set up my Android phone like this. Fantastic because I have a hard time seeing the screen so now it just tells me what I am looking and reads my messages to me.
If you don't mind me asking, how did you memorize? Obviously with sighted people you can learn the layout of the keyboard gradually via hunt and peck.
But there really is no hunting if you can't see unless you constantly hit the keys and wait for the computer to tell you that you hit the wrong one.
Love your videos by the way.
This is great Tommy! I love watching your videos. I found you by accident, but, I love watching!
Do you ever get the feeling someone is watching you, because as a sighted person I know that I don't need to see the person to get the feeling I'm being watched sometimes.
Explaining sight to a blind person is just as difficult as explaining blindness to someone sighted.
Let's leave it at that and continue with our lives.
Hey tommy, do you have any old videos of you singing? Specifically oldie.
What feels? He can feel just fine...
This is really facinating to see
Just like how people type without having to look at the keyboard. Most keyboards have little bumps on the F and J keys so people get the proper hand alignment.
I'm new to your channel and I am amazed about how amazing, and funny of a person you are. You really brightened up my day!
You are a legend, why cant every one be like you! ...except the being blind part...
It's fascinating to try to type with my eye's closed. Even though I don't look at the keyboard when I type, I feel really disoriented, but I'm beginning to get used to it.
Of course he does, blinding your eyes from the keyboard is how you learn to be a fast typist. Learning to rely on memorization and muscle memory is far superior to site.
Look at your keyboard, specifically the F and J keys... they have small,barely noticeable bumps on them. Those two keys are where your left and right index finger should go when you place your fingers on the keys. After that, it's just a matter of practicing and knowing where the other keys are at, not the mention the fact that the computer is reading everything back to him. It might seem uncanny, but you can type without looking. Me and millions of other people never look at the keys at all.
what i would love to see is tommy sculpture something out of play dough or clay because surely he would be able to know where each small detail would need to go in a 3d model of something he uses daily
Hey tommy. This question hasnt anything to do with blindness really. But imma ask it anyways. You always seem so happy and cheery. Do you ever get angry? Can you tell us a story about a time where you were really angry?
Who's next album on the wall , very nice
no as in does certain surfaces feel good or better than others. like marble vs. glass. or a warm surface vs. a chilled surface
I accidently turned on the voice over on my mac a few times. And I didn't know what it was or how to turn it of. It drove me crazy lol