Millennium Tower Foundation Is Sliding as Building Sinks and Tilts
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.พ. 2022
- The Millennium Tower is not just sinking and tilting - it’s also sliding, triggering a problem with one of its key systems, NBC Bay Area’s Investigative Unit has learned. Jaxon Van Derbeken reports.
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it blows my mind that there are still people living in that disaster waiting to happen.
I think it’s combo of getting rid of your spot and getting new place.
Then there’s also the it’s still safe and Its too nice to move and I like where I’m at, and I already wasted a lot so why bother worrying.
The problem is going to be mechanicals such as drains and elevators. It will affect some units more than others.
You read my mind... talk about dare devils...
more then likely ignorance in them not really understanding the danger they are in
@@jjg1501 ignorance is bliss.
it literally needs to be dismantled before lives are lost this is ridiculous
Agreed. The longer they wait the more they put workers at risk when they do decide to take it down. It has to be now.
I agree. There was a building in Las Vegas, known as the Harmon, that had a structural defect discovered before it was completed. The building was finished at about half the planned height. It remained empty for about 10 years, was taken apart and removed. It can be done. In New York on times square, a high rise was recently removed to make way for a new hotel. The was the Millennium tower story is going, it may be removed. It their 'fix' doesn't work......
yea they won't put a rush on that.
Yes, and if the area receives a good earthquake anytime in the next few years, I am saying now"all bets are off".
@@jameshollen9723 "Liquefaction"... The horror!
Some of the best analysis of this is done on a channel called "Building Integrity". Josh Porter also did great work looking at the condo collapse in FL.
Yes. His explanations are thorough, yet understandable to those of us unfamiliar with building engineering.
I agree that’s a really informative channel, he does a great job explaining the technical stuff to laypersons.
Nothing will be done until an earthquake hits or the building collapses on its own. Then from there it will be a blaming game of whose at fault. Mark my words.
Unless the plumbing gives out 1st
All the rich people who bought a spot in the building left or trying to scam another sucker to take this lemon off their hands 🤷🏼
@@roblox21242 nobody smart is buying anything in that building
Fr
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It was mid-2004 when the Department of Building Inspection took the extraordinary step of ordering construction halted on a 52-story project at 80 Natoma St. because the building would be unstable on the clay and sand soil of South of Market with the as planned foundation.
The then head of the Building Inspection Department, Frank Y. Chiu, said in a legal declaration in October 2004 that he ordered the work stoppage in light of their experts’ warnings that the 80 Natoma St. project would sink far more than the geotechnical designers estimated.
At this point in time, The Millennium Tower is still on the drawing board with the exact same foundation designed by the exact same geotechnical firm - Treadwell and Rollo - that designed the much much lighter 80 Natoma St. project that was just shut down by the Department of Building Inspection for having an inadequate foundation. Treadwell and Rollo are now undeniably aware that their foundation as planned for the Millennium Tower is inadequate and that it will be rejected by the Department of Building Inspection so they simply somehow did not submit it for review and let construction begin. It is of record and undeniable.
This is what happened and it can be easily fact-checked by anybody, everything else that is being thrown around including the kitchen sink is I suspect an intentional distraction from finding what is a simple truth so the next question will never be asked... How was the Department of Building Inspection sidestepped?
Damn, thanks for this info. It's crazy how they still continued with the project after knowing all of this.
I have been a Building Permit Expeditor for 30 years. It was most likely corruption.
Money can make a lot of things happen.
@@sto2779 Everybody connected to this Tower all play for the same team and all have a vested interest in never getting to the bottom of this. There are no checks and balances in SF or the State and have not been for decades. It's how you paid $10 Billion+ to date for that East Bay Bridge and how they got away with deforesting Angle Island but strategically kept only the trees viewable from Tiburon because who lives in Tiburon did not want a view of a scraggly island (Google Earth it) and did you know SF keeps 80 cents of every dollar they claim to spend on the homeless for administration (wink wink). That's $291 Million for administration (wink wink) in 2020 alone. That is enough to pay 582 people $500,000! Now that is a lot of administration (wink wink).
@@phillipkalaveras1725 Stupid, stupid, stupid. This is similar to building high speed rail. In Japan, it works to be 5 million per mile, in the USA i works to be 25 million per mile. It's all the corruption.
I predict that after all the stabilization work they’ll tear it down anyway.
Yea right. They are not going to admit the mismanaging and mishandling of this project. Are you kidding me? They will
Wait until it collapses and blame it on Trump. Lmao
@@kheemirbioch6413 blame it on Trump? Did anyone blame Trump when the condo in Miami collapsed? You are being immature. There’s plenty that DJT is to blame for, career criminal that he is, but this isn’t one of his.
Let’s go Brandon!!! Now that’s mature. I hope you get help for your TDS.🤡🤡🤡🤡
They won’t have to tear it down . It’ll do that all by itself
@@sawahtb but the media will blame him some how none the less
I guess you could call it a MOBILE HOME 🥁🙃…
Maybe next it will do the moon walk
😀😃😄
Hamburger will call the building ”Horizontal habitat re-orientation" if the tower collapses and is lying on its side.
I’m guessing the elevator inspectors bank account will grow substantially the moment he rubber stamps his inspection as a “pass”....
Just remember, $4 Million would have prevented all of this. I predict the city will eventually force it to be decommissioned and demolished.
At the homeless people's expense too, har!
When you pour water on the kitchen floor or counter, and it runs like a stream to one side, you KNOW there's a big problem!
Doesn't that kind of imply the foundation is either no longer in contact with the piles, or the piles are also sliding, or tilting hard core, or doing something they otherwise shouldn't even be remotely possible to do?
If that’s the case with this tower then I wonder what is going on with the transbay station that is just adjacent to it?
I can’t tell you because I’m not an engineer
lol who cares?
That’s what happens when you build on top of garbage
The piles have to be put throughout the inside of the building as well as the perimeter.
They way they are doing it now, it is propping up one face of the building while the center that houses the elevator shaft will keep sinking. This building WILL tear itself apart with this fix that is being implemented.
Several prominent engineers have described this scenario on detail. You cannot have a static portion of a dynamic building. Ask any engineer, you cannot couple a rigid section with a moveable one. Like using solid mounts on a transmission and rubber mounts on the engine, the transmission will be torsiones until it rips apart, have seen it many times.
I have some background in mechanical engineering, not architectural, but these rules cross over. These people know exactly what they are doing and have the exit plan all laid out, you can be sure of that.
This is almost as bad as the disaster that is the bay bridge. Decided on by a panel with no engineering backgrounds. It is a ticking timebomb. Now no one claims to be the ones that approved the nutty design. It went over budget by 625 BILLION dollars with yearly maintenance upwards of 100 million depending on what breaks that year.
The correct plan is much more expensive and the way these construction contracts work out is that in the end, the companies that do the work are dissolved at the first sign of trouble and backroom deals are brokered to keep a predetermined cut of all the money taken in for the project. Just like the Bay Bridge, this is a clusterfuck that is typical of San Francisco.
If that building falls over there’s going to be one hell of a mess to clean up
I hope the tenants of the tilting tower get on well with their adjacent towers' neighbours because they are bound to get closer and closer as time goes by!!!
Maybe they just need someone to lean on...
I'll go now.
@@samuelb7546 lol
Wow, at first it is sinking, then come tilting, and now plus sliding but the engineer claims it poses no danger. Very convincing! 😲
If I had bought a unit in this building.... I'd have sold it and left the area years ago lol. But if you bought and still have a unit in this building, I hope you leave ASAP, even if it means cutting your losses.
I use to
Work across the street adjacent from that building I just pray that that building does not fall or collapse fortunately we sold our building and we no longer have to commute to San Francisco but those buildings are so high and so close together every time I used to go to the city I use to pray everyday 🙏🏽🙏🏽
@@_-Karl-_ She said she used to have to go to San Franciso. She was smart and moved out. She doesn't go there everyday like she did which was why she did it. Probably prays for other stuff now
Voting for Democrats will do that to you hun. 💯💯
When it no tenants. That's when it will be dismantled. They said the foundation was already spooned in the middle. So it's obvious the weight of the building is crushing the foundation and breaking it apart. I wouldn't feel safe being in the building let alone living in it.
the people own their units, not some greedy landlord... its a condo
I'll short that building in a flash if it's a stock lmao.
Another 3 inches before the end of the year?
I've been following this pretty closely since I became aware of it last June(?) and I'm wondering about property values in the direction of the 'lean'. Not only would I not want to tenant that building, I wouldn't want to be anywhere NEAR it.
Absolute Insanity of building skyrises in San Francisco!
+NBCBayArea *Thanks for breaking a disconcerting condition with the Millennium Tower.* Horizontal shift is a hint of something seriously wrong with the very ground under the foundations.
Since the building isn’t pinned to anything stable, it makes you wonder what happens when a good-sized earthquake sends it careening.
Let’s see… Leaning, sinking, and sliding. Is there another axis this building can experience? I think it’s time to contact “Controlled Demolition, Inc.”
Your comment made me think of the Journey song, "Loving, Touching, Squeezing". Here is a spoof on it.
Foundation seeps,, contractors lie
The Millennium Building, is gonna die,
Leanin', sinkin', slidin' into the ground.
Rich folks,, they live in these million dollar condos
While homeless people throng in the streets below
Leanin', sinkin', slidin' into the ground
It's tearin' apart
Every day, every day
It's tearin' apart
In spite of the mortgage they pay.
It's tearin' apart
It won't be long, yes, till it falls
Then those rich folks, will have no home at all
'Cause it's leanin' it's sinkin', it's slidin' into the ground.
It's tearin' apart
Ooh, every day, every day
It's tearin' apart
No matter how much they pay
'Cause it's leanin', sunken, collapsed
Now it's their turn to be homeless.
Na na na na na na
Na na na na na...
1:57
Ruler is not perpendicular. Gap is 20 16ths or 1.25 inches
That's what I see too. And what kind of amateur doesn't align one edge with a full inch mark? And add a date stamp? C'mon, you know this heading for court, show a little care in your documentation
Hamburger will be stating the building is compliant and completely within safety guidelines right up until the moment it collapses!
This is what happens when you try to cut corners and pocket millions on top of the millions your already getting greed is why this happened.
like what governments do to us? this is not news.
@@dakrawnik4208 Thanks to Citizen's United, guess who now owns our Government?
They ought to require all buildings over a certain height to be anchored into bedrock. It would have been cheaper to do that than to do what they now have to do with little certainty that it will work.
PLEASE conduct more interviews with actual tenants and nearby residential and commercial tenants. Maybe even a 2 or 3-part series, an hour long each should be created with experts weighing in (people need to know).
Inquiring minds want to know:
Why aren’t the tenants moving out in droves? Is this a thrill for them? No choice, but to remain? Do they feel safe? Do they not care? Where’s the outrage? etc.
Until this building is purposefully demolished, the risk of a sudden collapse is truly inevitable.
In the case of any unpredictable weather/natural disaster occurrence, the building collapse will effect other buildings within a few mile radius, to include pedestrians, pets, drivers, bicyclists, etc.
Mass casualties (that could’ve otherwise been prevented), city declares a state of emergency, in 3, 2, 1…
Why aren’t the tenants moving out in droves? because they own a mortgage and cant just walk away.... they cant sell it for what they have in it as no one wants to pay top dollar for junk.
Its 2022 and the occupants are americans. All they care abt is muh property values. They will die just like those ppl in that miami condo.
That's what happens when the wealthy thinks they are better than everyone else, at some point their arrogant way of living and treating others will catch up with them all.
@@QuicoKoala - deposit? you mean mortgage?
that could be interesting
lol@that ruler placement
Do we know if the person that put it there know how rulers work?
Might just be my OCD, but it's still annoying.
That drove me crazy too. At least align the edge with a whole inch hashmark.
Take that down!
Hard to imagine the consequences of a building like this tower collapsing. Monetary it will be unimaginable, but the loss of life will be at another level. People should move from there as far away as possible.
I have no degree, but it seems i am clearly qualified to slap those engineers' head for what they did.
Dubai Tower Burj Khalifa was off by 4 degrees when the got to the 60th floor the engineers took "out" the 4 degrees as they went up 160 floors. Buddy who's a engineer said that won't work the tower will have a short lifespan as well.
I lived in old cottage in West Yorkshire, UK, and it as slowly sliding downhill due to being built on solid clay.
Eventually I had to move out when the roof separated along the ridge.
Landlord then had to remove all internal structures and dig out the foundations to pour a great concrete slab.
Must be some real bargains on some units there.
@@Cassie00111 - you would buy a unit for any price>??? even full price and bail out a sucker?
@@Cassie00111 - i know, it was just funny so i had to do it.
I’d probably gamble 10K but no more.
I’m sure it’ll be fine. It’s not like buildings can just fall over. Besides, it’s too big to fail.
Seriously though, they need to get them fellas that brought down Building 7.
It also shakes, rattles and rolls.
If this building kills someone....
Im yelling Timber!!
FBI need to get involved to investigate this corruption case
They're already looking into the Trump/Putin connection to the Millennium Tower. Evidence to follow.
They have all this information ... WHAT are the doing about it???
maintain the space???
So they are going to let the building fall ... to create more destruction????
Sounds like a serious foundation problem and I'm not even a builder ...😖
They should substitute lightweight pieces with the heavy pieces, go floor by floor.
🎵 Slip sliding away. The more you near your destination, the more you slip sliding away. 🎶
Well......I don't know, maybe you should move?
If you don't, it will move for you.
One part on Bedrock and the other on friction pilings is in itself an instability in any tremor. Colosseum suffered this fate.
"The building is not at risk"-- NO! The people are.This will collapse :(
I was looking for the millennium tower in yakuza... Moving along 🤔👀
Now we have this build sliding! How would you build footings for that??
What's happening with the new fix going from 50 piles to now just a mere 18 piles? Did the city approve it?
and shouldn't the piles go all the way around the building, not just a corner.
@@michaelvaus - they want to stabilize the sinking sides... so the other sides will sink instead... leveling out the building
@@williamhaynes7089 I understand stabilizing the sinking sides first.
But after they get that stabilized, shouldn't they go to the other sides and fix it too before it becomes an issue.
@@michaelvaus - they want the other 2 sides to sink, to level mess out, then put piles on that side too
@@michaelvaus - from another video, they were/are supposed to fix that side in a few years after they are successful on first round.
The elevators are the least of the worry. 2022 now. I don't want to be in there when it falls over.
People: Listen to me. This is the history of South market: Family friend born in SF said as a boy, the PIER was at the cable car turntable, which came later.
Officials filled that area from there to the Ferry Building, extending it town to Fisherman's Wharf.
The only bedrock in The City are these areas: Mt Sutro, Twin Peaks, Potrero Hill, the Castro and Hunters Point.
Officials know this. Do not care.
Built the Embarcadero Center 1 & 2, the tower, the rest. Its not a phenomenon its dipping sliding shifting and will FALL OVER SOON
THE LANDFILL IS SAND CONCRETE AND MOTAR. UNDERNEATH THAT IS THE BAY.
Sell if you have a condo there. Do NOT wait. Do not. That land as they call it is 100 percent unstable and they know it. Imagine an earthquake the size of 7.50 or more: liquefaction of soils as the Tower actually sinks into the bay. I don't need to go on.
U have been warned. Its 2022. ... former citizen of San Francisco since 6 years old, worked for the City and know lots of government stuff, and escaped to Northern California. Any questions? Just ask. You would be shocked what I know.
Right on, thanks for that information !
I have seen the liquefaction of soils first hand, here in Anchorage during the 1964 quake. Now, city lets them build on the worst area in the city again.
Sink and tilt are two separate problems with different solutions. Proposed fix may not solve either. Tilt needs to be corrected first. Ironically, the increased tilt caused by pile drilling offers a solution. Drill on the other side to counter tilt back to vertical. Then support the entire foundation pad with piles to bedrock which is the only way to stop sinking. Ideally, bedrock piles should support pad from the bottom and not the sides. Hugely expensive and maybe not possible. Foundation pad is cupping in the center which represents deformation. That can't be good for strength. And there is cracking and spalling in lower levels which also can't be good for strength.
I think if they do manage to put those piles in place (big if), the new strains introduced to the already deformed foundation are going to make matters much worse.
All I can see with this tower is consistent extra maintenance until the tower leans enough to be condemned.
Never trust a guy with the last name "Hamburger".
Common sense says to start taking the building down but nope they prefer to keep the money rolling in trying to fix it
It sounds like a point will be reached when there is a sudden collapse. Keep the cameras rolling 24/7 so we can enjoy the collapse.
Still far away imo
It’s likely it’ll just keep leaning further and further, at a certain point long before it’s in danger of falling over, it’ll become uninhabitable with no functioning elevators or plumbing. Once that happens it will be dismantled.
INSANE
All of this can be explained with creative linguistics. All you need is the right words used in a way that misleads and say it in a confident way.
The building is leaning back Stilton went for in to the left and now is slip sliding away 🤣
Lowkey want to see it topple like a domino lmao
I'm amazed y'all haven't teamed up and started dismantling that shit shack. When that thing comes crashing down or topples over there's going to be a lot of destruction and injuries and whatnot. Someone needs to step up and take a loss and do the right thing.
Is there still people living there ? Or have they mosthly left ?
it would be like walking away from the mortgage on your house... they are not apartments
This thing needs to be demolished ASAP
Wouldn't want to be anywhere near that building when any good size earthquake hits. It should be taken down.
What's next, rotation about its vertical axis?
They should just stop now, for everyones safety. This will be the biggest disaster in US history.
Neighboring Buildings : "HEY ! Why Millennium got cables attached to us ?!? "
< cue Tom Lehrer > "Oh, We All Will Go Together When We Go ! . . . " B-)
Demolish the building and call it a lost.
tilting sinking sliding, next week- twisting
Slip slid’n Away -slip slid’n away 🎶
This is a disaster that must be dealt with. Tear down the building,it’s only gonna get worse.
Enough is enough, tear it down already!
Im just waiting to see if they will take any serious action before the building falls over
They have arrested the tilting. Is that serious enough?
That’s going to be so cool when that building falls over. I hope they will have multiple angles so we get a good view.
Oh, Ill bet so many people have allready set up cameras waiting for the day.
Yeah this building is gone!, It's time to take the stairs millennium occupants;;! 🤣
Demolish it before there is tragedy!!!
The apartments are worthless until it razed to the ground and build elsewhere.
Did anybody else hear "the slab that is 10-ft thick" and start looking side to side like a confused cartoon? 10 feet thick? For that behemoth? Ah come on, mate!
Omg. The leaning tower of Pisa of North America over here.
Absolutely incredible. Who are they kidding?
From memory the tower is now leaning 29 inches at the top.
Would it even remain standing even in a small-medium earthquake?
My calculation shows that it amounts to about one quarter of one degree from plumb. That is a long way from tipping over.
Soooo does this mean they are done ?
I don't see any positive results attempting to fix this structure. In other words, it doesn't seem possible to fix. The final remedy is to demolish the building.
DISGUSTING BUILT ON LANDFILL
I’m amazed for a rich country trying to save a dangerous high rise building I wonder if those people still think it safe to stay. The only answer is to demolish it completely do not wait for it to collapse
rezone and rebrand the entire building as a amusement park attraction and reopen it under the disney brand umbrella......
u can charge tourists $25 to ride the elevator of the leaning tower of san fran,for some sightseeing at the top....there is also bungee jumping and a string of fine dining establishments at the top of the building.....
management is not responsible for any injury or loss of life incurred during ur trip.....
I sure wouldn't live in this place
That's an easy fix, change to building code to a two inch allowable gap.
unfortunately during the next big earthquake, that things going to collapse.
The building was built on a landfill.
They've had problems with this bldg since they first started bldg it!
What a beautiful building... i wanna live there... i just dont have enough money...
whats so great about a structure that looks like a typical, standard office building? looks very bland. and have fun when it collapses. i wouldnt live there if it was free.
Famous last words before the building falls over and people die.
Proudly build in USA.
This building is going to come down before its intended expiration date.
Let see... the word I'm looking for? ah. Yes. FusterCluck.
Sinking, sliding oh my what next ? Is it gona do a shimie again.
Maybe the building is just dancing to the elevator music. Have they tried playing all news radio in the elevators?