I switched to Desktop Linux in 2014 from MacOS. I love it. I used Ubuntu 2014 to 2019. KDE Plasma from 2019 - 2021. Linux Mint Cinnamon since April 2021.
That sounds like you switched when Snow Leopard was about to lose support. I still have a standard and a server version of Snow Leopard on a couple of machines, and I think it was the last really good OSX.
what "I switched to Desktop Linux from windows OS" mean some logic why you switched from MAC OS . LInux and Mac os both based on UNIX PHILOSOPHY AND PRINCIPLE RIGHT .....
@@BlockchainRealms Maybe because every desktop manager I've ever used in Linux is way more accessible than OSX? I love being able to use Super-Left Arrow, Right Arrow.
As a software developer who works with open souce, Linux provides a richer experience and with certain distributions being light on resources as well . Another interesting use of a Linux bootable pen drive is recovering data from partially corrupted windows installations which won't boot or show the blue screen.
I recently dealt with an HP laptop, that couldn't even boot up to a recovery or install from a flash drive of Windows 10, blue screen every time. Linux Mint booted fine, installed fine, only issue was with the trackpad not working, but that might just need some software swapped.
@@javabeanz8549 you are lying here " couldn't even boot up to a recovery or install from a flash drive of Windows 10". there is no reason why you can't install windows from flash drive.
@@prakhars962 no lies, actual facts, but I don't know the reason. The laptop refused to boot into Windows, blue screen every time, some attempts it error out in a few minutes, others could take a half hour. Same USB boot media booted to an installer screen just fine. So maybe you should just apologize now, and not be making accusations that you can't back up.
I think one of the biggest barriers to folks switching to Linux has to do with where people get their OS from. Most people get it on the computer they purchase. What do most OEMs install on their PCs? Windows, of course. If more hardware manufacturers released their computers with certain Linux distributions (like ZorinOS, or other very easy-to-use distros), I think more people would get exposed to how easy it is to use. People use their computers for browsing the web, checking mail, viewing pictures, and maybe playing some games. Most of what people use their computer for could easily be done in Linux, with a minimal learning curve.
The only way people will start buying computers with Linux preinstalled is if they're cheaper than the Windows pc. While it's great that System 76 and Tuxedo sell Linux Pcs, they're pretty expensive, and no normie is going to buy one when a Windows pc is a few hundred bucks at Wal-Mart. They would if they could save $100 though. I think Android phones have proven this. Android dominates the cellular market, because phones can be acquired for literally $20 and up.
M$ has firm contracts with PC manufacturers. Gatea simply stop supplying manufactures with windows copies if they offer ant other o/s. He strong arms the manufacturers. He does the same thing with hardware manufacturers and certain printer companies. Windows is an EVIL company I abandoned Windoze back in 1998 and exclusively ise Linux in all my computers. And who needs Adobe with there bad business practice and super high costs. They no longer have ANY distribution costs, so why didn't their product cost go down??? I dont uae any adobe products and as a matte of fact, a large portion of the film industry has dumped them as well. They now use DaVinci resolve. There is a FREE version for all platforms (windows, mac & Linux) eben thr pro version is only $300 one time fee. That is Extremely reasonable!! I use GIMP instead of photoshop. And dark table for still images. Windows & Adobe BOTH suck!!
I found that the barriers of switching to Linux honestly dissolved quickly once I finally made the jump. It takes some time and adjusting your workflow for sure but it’s well worth it and there is so much great software available to fill in the gaps
This is all well and good for you. But, for the average consumer, it is either Windows of MacOS as they are these most straightforward, accessible and easiest solutions. It is just like smartphones. Apple is the world's largest vendor of smartphone with their tight range of iPhones. Which is in large measure due to the fact that Apple makes their phones the easiest to use.
@@user-kc1tf7zm3b Buy a Raspberry Pi4b, put Twister OS on it, toss the apple in the trash. Need Android? Buy a second flash card. Samsung bar 128GB 400mb/s. Twister has the Mac layout, or windows, or Linux. Then run it with 2 screens, then buy your second Pi4, 3 screens, then get a 3rd Pi4 running a screen each... and a 4th for some kind of portable device you buy, then build a better portable 4th, then bitch about when's the Pi5 coming!?! Pi4 is the way to get into Linux and find out what you can do with them. Once you're in it and comfortable then figure out how you can spend more money on the hardware.
@@pgtmr2713 You are missing the point: 99% of computer users do not care to get into the weeds, to find out how a computer works and build their own machines. If nothing else, the Linux free distro aspect is irrelevant, even for those who wish to build a computer, as Windows Pro licences can be had from Ebay for just a few dollars. Just about everyone simply wants their computer to work when they unpack it from the shop. Ease of use, finesse, familiarity and predictability with Windows or MacOS matters to nearly all users. Which is why Linux will not supplant either OS in the consumer, and, especially in the corporate and government spaces. But, for those who like to tinker, especially who can do all of their work in the cloud, Raspberry Pi SBCs do offer the tantalising possibility to use a computer at a very low cost. All the while using a tiny computer which needs next to no desk space.
@@user-kc1tf7zm3b You're not understanding, Twister OS is that easy to use. If somehow you do find yourself lost... the fact that it's a Raspberry Pi means there's tons of people making videos on how to do anything that can be done. Which relates to Linux. Desk space is almost an irrelevant argument. Everything has a screen, keyboard and mouse minimally. Also irrelevant when they multiply like rabbits. Laser trackballs help with space issues. I'm 100 % confident a Mac user could daily a Pi4 and not miss anything.
@@pgtmr2713 Bloody hell! You have no understanding how consumer psychology and consumer habits work in the real world. Only a small subset of computer users want to bother to dabble and tinker with computers they built themselves. Nearly all consumers want an easy straight of the box Windows PC or Apple Mac experience. This is as true today as it was 15 years ago in 2007. And, as it will be in 15 years time, come 2037. If there is one lesson which is to be gleaned from Apple Inc. as to how to be a fabulously successful company is this: make consumer products easy to use. It is all very easy for you to say that “Raspberry Pi and Linux are easy to use” when you have an interest, desire, experience and ability to acquit yourself well in these endeavours. Again, the everyday consumer who sees a computer as a machine, like a microwave oven, just wants their computing experience to be simple and straightforward. Your YT videos do provide insights to your proclivities where you restore classic 1990s cars as a hobby. Most people do not care to undertake serious maintenance and repair of their cars. Especially with old cars from a full generation ago which are perhaps older than themselves. Most people would rather purchase a new car, then simply delegate all servicing and maintenance to the car manufacturers’ dealer workshops. As for the benefits of space saving with SBCs, this can be a critical factor for those who have inherent space constraints which can never be resolved. For those living in flats, units and apartments, there is no scope whatsoever to build out and up to produce more working space. For people who have to contend with a small room and a modest desk, the promise of ditching a behemoth legacy PC with a diminutive SBC is a very enticing prospect indeed. As this drastically reduces costs and frees up valuable space.
the only trouble will be getting into linux for the fist time . if you use it and get used to it , theres no going back , unless you need that specific software thats not there in linux and is really important
@@IcouldBNE1 Depending on what kind of projects you work on, you could give JetBrains Rider a try. Unfortunately I also have to work on legacy Windows Forms apps every now and then. Remote Desktop clients on Linux always give me problems for some reason, and as soon as I find myself wanting to run Windows virtually on Linux I start asking myself what the point is. Might as well run Windows then.
Linux has been getting quite a lot of games (even AAA) in recent years, which surprises me given the fact it has few times less market share than macOS, which was weird before apple silicon became a thing.
One thing I think is 'lost' is where Linux was 'fitting' into peoples lives. Back in the 90's, we used to do 'Install fests' with older hardware where we helped people replace Windows and install Linux. Who were these people? Often you had your 'hobby' types but a lot of that was from people who just couldn't afford buying new hardware every time a new version of Windows came out. Folks that didn't want to 'throw away' that investment and still make some use of it. Sometimes it was just somebody who didn't even have a computer and had something 'old' given/donated. Aka: the rest of us we don't think about. So a lot of this was 'recycling' and getting something in the hands of folks that were 'left behind' in the "Intel givith, Microsoft taketh away" (aka: Intel would release better processors and Microsoft would release a new version of Windows that would 'kill' that performance gain... forcing you to buy new hardware.... if you could afford that... and end up right where you were... with a sluggish OS). Not everybody can just keep buying computers every few years and will keep what they have and know it won't support the 'next' version of Windows (hardware is fine, just not supported or will run awful on the next version of Windows). Back in those days, I used to have a side business and I'd go out to more affluent people business and homes and service their 'new' computers. I would ask folks if they had anything to recycle and often had a perfectly good, but older, system sitting in their garage and would be happy for me to take it off their hands. I worked with a recycler and if I that system was 'missing' parts and it was worth it, I'd put Linux with XWindows on it and give it away to people that had nothing and were left behind (would never be able to afford a computer). AKA: addressing the technology 'gap'. Generally, when a 'new' version of Windows came out, it meant that the 'last' generation of systems got really cheap. That's when I would pick up systems for myself 'cheap'. Even where I worked, those old systems were considered 'trash' and I could just 'ask' and fill out a form to just 'get it for free'. Fast forward, I was really excited when Windows 11 came out. Why? Because it didn't support systems without TPM and such and those system run on Linux 'perfectly' and much faster _but_ the demand wasn't there for them for 'Windows people'. So I've been picking up those systems cheap and helping folks that can't keep up with the Windows system 'churn'. A lot of desktop linux is in the 'after market'. I just helped 2 people spec out new systems that supported Windows 11 and they 'gave me' their old laptops after I got their files transferred over. I put Fedora Linux on the old laptops... runs better than it ever did on Windows.. and gave them away to 2 people who don't even have computer already or 'anymore' who can't afford to buy a computer. Generally, that 'focus' on Ubuntu is really no 'milestone' in the desktop beyond two things: One, it was a much improved desktop and two, it supported a lot of older hardware better so it quickly became a 'first choice' in the recycling distribution, usually the 'Mint' spin (because it was the distribution that 'worked' on an older system... I'd often try a few different ones on 'stubborn' systems to find one that would work). Talking about the 'after market' with linux isn't as 'sexy' as the 'latest and greatest' but that's really where a lot of desktop linux systems live (on recycled systems in the 'disposable' computer market place dominated with that proprietary OS... same with Mac's.... I've put linux on several PowerPC systems bringing them 'back to life' as well for people in 'need').
The Almighty Algorithm brought me to this channel (the newer-than-this-one Windows vs Linux RAM video) and I liked it so I looked at others and am now here. And now, thanks to your comment, I am smiling. I commend your efforts to help those less fortunate and, while I did not personally benefit from said efforts, I still wish to thank you for them. Seriously, that's awesome. When I was in HS my school got new computers and sold the old hardware for $5 per piece (would've given it away, but wanted to deter people taking them just cuz free). My brothers and I got a computer and monitor each for $10 and they were actually better than anything we had at the house at the time. We got to LAN sooooooo many games that we otherwise couldn't have played single player, and that was great. The Total Annihilation games were fun as hell, as well as LAN Diablo 2, Starcraft, Warcraft 3, etc. So basically I benefited from *similar* to what you have provided and I am always happy to see comments like this where someone relates acts of genuine benevolence.
Basically Linux has been successful in every place that is not the desktop, and anything related to the desktop. Anyway I think it's slowly changing since 10 years ago, and now it's not hard to find people using Linux in the office or at home. It has helped some excellent apps also available natively for Linux.
Windows is that one slutty chick who you and your friends always sleep around with but never take seriously. Linux is that one nerdy girl who likes you but you pretty much friendzone her. Mac is that attractive blonde woman you met and thought you wanna go serious with her until you found out how vapid and shallow she is. TempleOS is your average based and holy traditional woman whom you wife immediately. MS DOS is the 93 year old woman who flirts with you in the supermarket.
I've always used Windows at work so I'm most familiar with it. I've used several Ubuntu based distros, have a Chromebook, and had a Mac for awhile. If I had to pick 1, Windows simply b/c it is everywhere and has drivers for most anything. Linux is the most fun and can work as well as Windows once you learn it, Chrome OS has very limited driver support compared to a Linux Distro, and Apple always gets a low grade from me as it doesn't play well with others. That was a great video! Thanks
@Kekistani Meme Warrior You are missing the point. For the average consumer, as Ms Roy points out, Windows is indeed everywhere and by far and the way the most prevalent and prominent ecosystem. For Ms Average looking for a computer at a major retailer in the West, the options presented on the shop display tables are mostly Windows PCs. Or, Macs to a much lesser extent. This was just as true in 2002 and in 2012, as it is today.
For the average consumer, it is either Windows of MacOS as they are these most straightforward, accessible and easiest solutions. It is just like smartphones. Apple is the world's largest vendor of smartphone with their tight range of iPhones, which is in large measure due to the fact that Apple makes their phones the easiest to use.
"I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional ..." *proceeds to make one of the most important software of modern times* chad
12:30 wayland is not a display server, it's a protocol. mir is a display server that speaks wayland, typically desktops have their own wayland display server. So really it's just a desktop on either x11 or their own wayland display server
@@Winnetou17 yes that's not a contradiction. mir is a display server that speaks the wayland protocol; it is **a** wayland display server. for simplicity's sake this makes kwin, mutter and other window manager also "wayland display servers". applications written with the wayland protocol in mind will work without modification on any of these "Wayland display servers" for comparison take a web browser vs http http is a protocol, firefox, chrome, vivaldi and friends all speak http, so we can browse https websites. firefox and friends are http webbrowsers, they however don't speak the gopher protocol (a very old web protocol) gopher is x11 http is wayland webbrowser is the display server ;)
I would highly recommend having both. windows is far easier to use, but linux does a few things far better and can be less buggy sometimes. Bluetooth audio and printing work on linux. Some games work better on linux through proton then they do on windows.
@@tonysheerness2427 Well one is 5 or 6 years old the other I have been saving up for for a year or two. So yes they are cheap, but with time you can save a lot of money. So it also shows how long they last.
I have a different experience with printers, especially when windows ages. a lot of old (e.g. industrial) printers don't have drivers for newest versions of windows and the old ones do not work. I have found that linux supports them out of the box and they work fantastic. that said, it's true that someone needs to do research before buying a piece of hardware to make sure it works well on linux, although nowadays things are much better than it was a few years ago. most stuff work out of the box and that's the beauty of it. there is still incompatibility with rgb on peripherals and some streaming equipment.
I experienced that issue with Windows long ago, moving a water district from 98 to 2000, and the printer driver they needed to print their statement was no longer available. It wasn't even for a specific printer, just dot matrix text, with appropriate page size options for the sizes of postcards. Also ran into network printer issues in 3.11 WFW, and the MicroSoft answer was "it's fixed in the next version of Windows", however, it wasn't fixed in 95 either...
Fantastic video as always, thanks Gary. I would be very interested to watch a video on security and malware and the differences between MacOS, Windows and Linux.
I think the Desktop and Graphics pipeline fragmentation is the single biggest problem with Linux OS. On the one hand, having choice is nice, but it is a nightmare for developers. It causes no end of problems. Everything from Vsync problems, poor/degraded performance (having to choose a GPU heavy compositor to get a decent modern UI and give up performance or gain performance w/o a compositor but deal with Vsync issues and no effects), Mismatched theming issues with Qt and GDK applications, further worsened by containerized applications (FlatPak, snap), Issues with real games, Like inconsistent light and dark theme icons and windows, the list goes on and on and on.
Fragmentation is only a problem if you call Linux *an* operating system, in reality Linux is *a family of* operating systems You can start to see this with the direction elementaryOS took it, linux "distros" are really separate Linux operating systems. It just so happens that a lot of linux operating systems are interoperable to a certain degree
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus distributions on their can be based on bsd, haiku, redox and others. What differentiates them is the kernel around which are born, the kernel is exactly what it sounds like; the core of the operating system. When people say 'I say linux' they typically don't mean they build their own os around the linux kernel, instead they more likely mean they use a operation build on top of the linux kernel. Or said more simply they use a 'linux based operating system' or a 'linux operating system (linux distro) So while yes linux is the kernel, colloqually linux refers to the family of operating systems that are based on the linux kernel
Thank you for such thorought and unbiased (as possible) description and explanation. You even mentioned topics that are not covered in the video, but at least named them so curious viewers can search for them.
*Nix System: No key-logging, no data collection, no pay-for-play subscription services, no ads in the file browser, no watermark on your desktop, complete freedom and privacy, powerful utils installed already, thousands of free programs of every kind etc...
Windows has very good support for Raspberry Pi. People allowed people to install Windows 11 to be installed. Which I think its cool. Windows is needs more resources and tends to be slower than Linux but if the Raspberry Pi can run it. Thats awesome for a £70 computer that was made to run Linux or FreeBSD. :)
It would definitely interest me to dive deeper as with more and more cross plattform applications and better UI support and so on the deeper technical differences might end up the major thing that will set Linux and Windows apart in the future
Yeah, Qt runs basically everywhere. GTK works well on desktop Linux and there is a way to use it on Windows and libadwaita makes it possible to use the same app on desktop and mobile form factors.
I would have loved if you covered cloud / container based computing more. I really think this has been a big win for linux. Docker, WSL, VMWare, VirtualBox, etc.
Nice video. I moved to Linux after Windows 11 came out and said you need an M$ account to even use the system. Then I started having issues with my games just crashing and not working. Under Linux (with Lutris) my games just work and my emulator (PCSX2) is faster and I can just use my system without it phoning home to Microsoft and thrashing my CPU with updates. Linux has better performance than Windows. Sure Adobe and Microsoft Office aren't available, but I can make due with GIMP and LibreOffice. Plus side? I no longer have to pay Microsoft and Adobe north of $15/month for office software anymore.
You need account only for Home and there is a way around that too. They will be making it with account even for Pro, but people will find a way around for sure. Also usually people using windows are also visiting sites to download "linux ISOs" 😉 (yes I'm talking about pirating office and adobe products, I rather pay only with my data than my data and my wallet)
@Bolivian-Lament I know and I said that, and just like people found a way around home, they will around pro. Also I don't really care as I'm more of a LTSC user.
@@tiltedbybox6118 People already found a workaround. You just gotta kill the networking process/service (?) when it asks you for an account and that'll let you create a local account instead. Or, you could just run the enterprise/education editions or just continue using Win 10 (way better than win 11 imho).
@@tiltedbybox6118 I'd rather run Linux and FOSS software and not be forced to pay with either,. I can donate to my favorite projects though. Other than that, all my software is FOSS. Screw Adobe and Microsoft.
Gary. Thank you so much for this video. I just built a speed demon computer for my self. But Microsoft thinks otherwise. So instead of buying a MS approved motherboard I’m strongly considering some flavor of Linux So can you do a video on security and the issues you mentioned at end of this video. THANK YOU 🙏
I would recommend downloading the latest Linux Mint, put it on a flash drive and booting it up to try it out. And if you are not sure that you are ready to go Linux, you can get yourself a cheap SSD to put in your beast of a computer, and install to that. Or if you are using nVidia GPU, you might consider Pop!_OS.
I dual boot - run Linux for work (engineering) and Windows for games. I used to run a hackintosh and really love the MacOS desktop environment - I would love it if someone rebuilt the MacOS DE for Linux verbatim. Gnome 4 is making strides in terms of UX which gives me optimism
I know there is a channel called LinuxScoop that did a video on how to customize the different DE environments, like they show you some they made and do step by step instructions. One was a MacOS themed one, take a look there it looked quite good
I have to ask: is it anti-cheat in the games you play that prevents them running fine on Linux? Genuinely curious, not trying to be on a high horse or anything! It's just that these days I have more trouble finding a game I want to play that *doesn't* run well, but I imagine that says more about my taste in games...
@@ThomasWinget not really, it's more just broad support for games and game tooling. I play VR games and enjoy games that just take too much effort to get working on Linux - but I spend 70% of my time in Linux now days - but I play fewer games
@@DavidAlsh ah, VR I can understand. I have wonky eyes (looks like lazy eye) so I have no proper depth perception...as such, I haven't even *tried* VR because I assume it will be a waste of money. That said, as far as "games that just take too much effort to get working on Linux" I'm actually curious which games. I know there are a lot of games that don't work well -- yet -- I'm just curious which specific ones.
Agreed with almost everything said and especially had a chuckle about 3 friends running different versions. Very true. Where I differ slightly is the hardware support - having run Linux for about 14 years, I have seldom run into hardare support issues. Virtually all of my hardware has been fully supported over the years. Whilst there definitely is less support for Linux compared to Windows, I don't think it's as bad as it used to be in the past. That being said - I do check Linux support before buying and only once or twice have based purchasing decisions based on lack of support. Regarding fragmentation - It's a double edged sword. Ultimate customisability, but can be confusing to newcomers. As a first time user, I totally understand the bewildering choice which could be off-putting. But, the the longer I've used Linux, the more I found that I predered to customise it the way that I wanted and gravitated towards the lighter/simpler versions. At the moment I'm using Mint, but would be happy with Arch from scratch. On my Pi, I built a customised setup with Pi OS based and IceWM to be super lightweight.
Re: "3 friends running different versions." - while quite likely it's actually an irrelevant / inconsequential point. Each user would probably say Linux is great and advise a new user to get onto Linux - choosing a Desktop/distro that best matches the new users requirements / is closest to the users familiarity zone.
@@kychemclass5850 Agreed. The more I use Linux, the less it matters to me what flavor I use. I use Linux on all my personal devices and have recommended Linux to so many people over the years. The only Windows based machine I have is my work laptop for Microsoft .Net development.
@@steven1000000000 Sadly my workplace is 100% Windows dominated. I can't tell you how chuffed I am at making the change to Linux and being able to survive in such an environment (other than being too lazy to ask IT to get my Linux laptop to be able to access the ethernet connected printing). I have a dream of converting the whole site to Linux, however as it's an "offshoot" from a much larger organization I seriously doubt the management would have the courage or individuality to make the switch. :(
While attending Benson Polytechnic High School in Portland Oregon, majoring in Electronics, graduating in 1984, back when it was "normal", I was a Tektronix Explorer Scout in Beaverton. I was even elected as President since no one ran against me. We were exposed to Linux at Tektronix. You have done a masterful job of explaining 101 things about Linux I never knew. So I intend to finally try a usb stick. Do you have a video on which usb stick for Linux to get. Thanks.
gary still for president :) 260k subs now - wow - i remember being here from the very start. info on side: installed windows 11 on a 7th gen i5 the other day without tweaking anything. seems like MS pedaled back a little bit. greetz gary - you rock mate.
Regarding drivers. I once got the news that Linux' drivers for printers improved and when I tried connecting the printer, to my surprise, it just did. When I pressed "print" it did. What caused my biggest surprise is that this same (hp) printer hardly worked on Windows, if I was lucky. Graphics drivers have come a long way. Old hardware is better supported on Linux period. Many devices work out of the box whereas on Windows I often need to find some driver on some shady website with a theme from 2002 and hope it works and isn't a virus. Only for some really obscure hardware you may find issues, but these days I'd say Linux is at least on par on the driver front if not better.
I have never needed a driver for a mouse or keyboard in Linux, unlike trying to get a MicroSoft keyboard and mouse installed in Windows. Or trying to install some network card in Windows so you can bring it online, only to have Windows tell you that it wants to search online for the driver. Now, I don't use Windows anymore, but I sometimes have to fix Windows for others, so they may have fixed some of those issues in recent years.
What the hell are you guys smoking ? (CapnTates and Java Beanz) Linux has come a long way in the drivers for desktop computers department, but it's still significantly behind Windows. If only that if you buy a new computer and peripherals you absolutely have no fear that it won't be supported by Windows, but you do have to check if it's supported by Linux. Even basic stuff like wifi and bluetooth support can be missing. And regarding peripherals, there are many companies who simply don't bother to make a driver for Linux, hence the situation here. I do hope it gets ironed out and get to be a non-issue as Linux popularity will rise and get to two digits market share. Oh, and fuck NVidia!
@@Winnetou17 What are YOU smoking? MicroSoft has removed support for some of their OWN hardware. Which is why I will not buy anything branded MicroSoft. Even when they were making someone decent hardware, they refused to warranty things, got stuck with unusable keyboards and mice. But yes, there are companies that don't bother to support their hardware for anything other than Windows, and I have no reason to purchase their hardware, as many of them won't even support their hardware for the NEXT or PREVIOUS versions of Windows. Now more recently, Intel and AMD have been contributing to the Linux Kernel for their upcoming devices. Valve and others have been as well. So at least for some hardware from major vendors, Linux has baked in support BEFORE release. I will admit, that the support will likely only be in the latest kernel versions, and not in any distro you can just download and install from the image.
I think your comparison is not fair on some points: 1.) GUI: First there are many more ways to program GUIs on Windows. You can use QT and GTK too for instance. I always find the Microsoft documentation of Windows APIs completely incomplete and not open in any way which makes it way harder to do stuff on Windows. There aren't even man pages guys! 2.) Fragmentation: Sure there is not a wide fragmentation in Windows but that's because it's essentially only one distro/desktop equivalent to Linux distros/desktop and users simply don't have a choice. I would not frame that as an advantage. Also, many Windows users don't even know there is a different choice (Sumatra vs AdobeReader for instance) and they don't have the urge thereby, but sure there is. My Windows setup was completely different to many peoples Windows setup for instance (used Chocolatey only, disabled many core functions like MS Store, Onedrive, used almost only foss applications like SumatraPDF). 3.) Drivers: That's simply not true. The open-source drivers for AMD cards are superior on Linux. Especially those crafted by the Mesa Project. Also, I always had troubles getting printers to work properly on Windows on wide range of hardware and software on both sides (Windows 7-10, several printers). On Linux it's so much easier to setup HP printers for instance. There is an text installer that's foss (hplip). It will automatically set up fax, printer and scanner. Most of my printers I use, do not even require drivers to be installed. Like my Samsung printer. I just connect via Wi-Fi direct, and scanner and printer are simply found and added automatically to every dialogue used for scanning and printing in consistent manner. This is true for many more products where I don't have to install drivers via CD or download fishy drivers via the internet with bunch of bloatware and advertisement like the Samsung drivers on Windows. The only problem on Linux is to know the right packages to install which is a breeze on Arch with the superb Arch-wiki or Ubuntu where everything is preinstalled. Wi-Fi was a pain for me though to be fair but nowadays, it's not an issue any more I feel because you can just buy Intel AX200 and that works. I even fixed some driver issues of the AX200 by chatting with the Intel support, which was up streamed to the Linux kernel. It's mostly ignorance and pure incompetence of the companies and people if there is no Linux driver. Like Nvidia always does something weird and stupid on Linux. Just stay away from Nvidia. Stupid company, pushing odd proprietary technology like CUDA and thinks it gets away. 4.) Gaming: Steam is available for Linux too, what's the point? Epic can be installed via Legendary. Anti-cheat is a problem but indie-games (which were the better games the past years) work flawlessly and even big and new titles like MH Rise work perfect or even better on Linux.
I think you jumped a little elegantly over the "its familiar, which means its compatible" thing. MS super power has always been that it had some compatibility for software made for earlier versions. This is not only about familiarity but also about technical support in ABI and API. Until the arrival of Flatpak and Snap, there hasn't really been anything like that on Linux or even Unix. So I think you could have mentioned that.
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't really see any information on the base power/efficiency of the core OS design. Like if you were to take away everything from the gui to bundled applications to any application released. Which OS would be more efficient build a UI, functionality components and code applications for from the ground up.
Slight inaccuracy: LXDE is not based on Gnome, but on GTK+. GTK+ (at least originally) meant "Gimp Toolkit", as it was the toolkit created to develop Gimp (GNU Image Manipulation Program).
It's amazing how far Linux gaming has come. I can almost blindly buy DirectX 11 (DXVK) titles and they will run OOTB. Biggest gamebreakers are DirectX 12 (vkd3d) titles as vkd3d is not as advanced as DXVK yet and of course titles using EAC and the like anticheat software.
Windows11 now requires a microsoft account btw , it is like microsoft is trying to drive users away. I have been running Linux since 2005 - Slackware Linux, still using Slackware today.
Why I use Linux: It's been a long time since I've used Windows, but I vaguely remember being nagged to buy Microsoft Office. I remember being forced to sign up for a Microsoft account. I remember every time I bought a new computer, I had to spend several days deleting bloatware. On my Android phone, there are apps I want to delete that it won't let me delete. None of those problems exist with Linux. It comes with a culture of free, open source software, and having complete control of your computer. I'm never nagged to buy or do anything. I'm not prevented from doing anything. Even if my version of Linux does something I don't like (like Ubuntu starting to use Snap packages), I can always switch to a different distribution of Linux (like Arch, which is my current plan). I started using Linux around 2008 (dual booting with Windows). After several years of that, I just deleted Windows entirely. I don't miss it. I was using Quicken money management software, which I had to give up, but it was a small price to pay for what I got in return. I don't play games. I mostly use the Firefox web browser, LibreOffice for word processing and spreadsheets, and Emacs, Vim, and VS Code for amateur programming. I've done programming in Python, Racket, Haskell, C, C++, Julia, Java, Rust, and Go with no problems (except Java with Eclipse). I don't try to convince people to switch to Linux. That is different but just as bad as the nagging that I experienced when I was using Windows.
@Bolivian-Lament I think telemetry is a good thing. It helps programmers improve their software and fix bugs. If I'm using software and it crashes or has a problem, I want the programmers to know about it so they can fix it. That's what telemetry does. Filing bug reports is too much of a hassle to be useful.
@Bolivian-Lament When thinking about privacy (or lack of privacy) with computers or the Internet, I ask the question, "How can it harm me?" How could VS Code's telemetry harm me? I can't think of anything. It doesn't have my credit card number or home address. I suppose it could search through my hard drive looking for email addresses or naughty pictures or something to send back to Microsoft, but then it wouldn't be telemetry, it would be malware. I don't have anything against Microsoft. Its OS is annoying so I don't use it. If VS Code became annoying, I wouldn't use it either. If I ever got my computer science degree and got a job offer from Microsoft, I would be happy to work for them.
@Bolivian-Lament Your argument suggests that we know what open source software does. That is only true if you look through and analyze the source code. Who does that? Nobody. Maybe you've looked through some code that you use, but you haven't looked through all of it. If you think the open source community does it, there's just too much software out there for that to be practical. It's an unsolved problem. I expect it to get better in the future with AI systems that can check for bugs, vulnerabilities, and malware, but it will be a decades-long evolution.
@Bolivian-Lament Let me guess: you haven't done that. Who would you ask? Do you know anyone who has analyzed the millions of lines of code in the Linux kernel? or the browser you use? I doubt it. The people to ask are either the actual developers who don't have time for people like you or random people on the Internet who are way less trustworthy than Microsoft.
@Bolivian-Lament I didn't say open and closed source are the same. I just don't live in a fantasy land where users of software vet the millions of lines of code in the software that they use every day -- or think it's feasible to ask other people to do it for them.
16:50 drivers on linux are baked in the kernel, word is over 70% of the linux kernel is a driver So on linux it either works out of the box or it doesn't
Having used Linux since v1.2 Caldera in 1995 (28 years), the drivers situation is vastly superior than any time ever before. It supported my ZenBook S13 natively except for the speakers. Windows 10 struggled with wifi + nvme at the start.
Personally, I think fragmentisation is an advantage with Linux desktops. First, It is a mere consequence of software freedom, and second, it helps to keep things competitive and necessitates standards (like free desktop). Look at Chromium's near monopoly over the web and it's consequences.
@@GaryExplains I agree that it isn't an advantage to getting more people to use Linux, as things can get confusing, but for me personally, and I imagine, most other Linux users, it's about freedom and choices, which fragmentisation does aid. I use i3, and am free to choose among millions of unique system programs and configurations, and I love it.
@@GaryExplains Indeed. Windows and MacOS computers are by far and away the leading and dominating computer options when one walks into a computer shop. Nothing has changed in the past 20 years.
Happy with Linux - we are not going back to the delays, problems, costs, agenda and politics of microsoft. Windows 11 and it's lack of processor support on our machines was however, the main reason for the switch.
After buying a badly designed Win Vista Dell desktop in 2008 (a 160GB HDD with 40MB/s throughput) I dual booted Windows Vista and Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. After retirement in 1-1-11 I switched completely to Ubuntu and now I run Ubuntu 21.10 on OpenZFS 2.0. In 2008 I had small WiFi driver problems, but afterwards I never had driver problems anymore. I still use Windows XP for playing the wma copies of my LPs and CDs. They also play on Linux, but for some reason I prefer WMP 11 with WoW and TrueBass effects. I'm a collector of Virtual Machines, so I have all Windows versions from 1986 Windows 1.04 to 2021 Windows 11 and I have all Ubuntu LTS versions plus the first Ubuntu 4.10 version; my first Ubuntu 5.04 version and the newest Ubuntu 22.04 Dev. Ed. I have many more Linux distros, but I keep mainly the latest versions of Garuda Linux, Fedora 33 & 35; OpenSuse 12 &15; Manjaro; Deepin; Linspire; Zorin; Linux Mint; MX 21; Peppermint 7, 9, 10 & 11 and FreeBSD 13.0. I moved my Apps to VMs and the Host OS is a minimal install of Ubuntu 21.10, next month I will move to 22.04 LTS. My most frequently used VMs are Xubuntu 20.04 (runing always with all office stuff); Windows XP Home (Jukebox); Ubuntu 16.04 ESM (Encrypted for Banking and PayPal with snaps for the newest Firefox and LibreOffice); Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Try-Outs); Ubuntu Studio 20.04 LTS (Multimedia); Windows 11 Pro (Just in case). My $349 hardware is a Ryzen 3 2200G; 16GB DDR (3000MHz); 3 ZFS lz4 compressed datapools. Those datapools are: - 512GB nvme-SSD storing ~15 VMs for 95% of all IOPs; - 2 x 500GB HDD partitions (Raid-0) on 500GB & 1TB HDDs (~9 power-on years) with a 95GB sata-SSD partition as cache (L2ARC/ZIL), 2 datasets; one with ~20 VMs still receiving updates and one with my data (music; photos; family videos etc). That last dataset is stored with copies=2, creating a kind of Mirror/Raid-1 subset in that datapool. - 500GB HDD partition at the end of the 1TB HDD with a 33GB sata-SSD partition as cache (L2ARC/ZIL) for all my archives and for ~30 VMs without updates. I have 2 backups of everything, one on my 2011 laptop (2TB; new HDD) and one on my 2003 Pentium 4 Backup Server (1.21TB on 2 x IDE 3.5" and 2 x SATA-1 2.5"; with 2 to 4 power-on years). Both PCs are used for 1 to 2 hours/week.
I use Windows and Linux 50/50, and I couldn't be happier. I'm a programmer in the gaming industry, I work in Unity and Unreal, I also code and deploy custom linux-based servers. IMO it's pointless to argue which of the OS'es is best, as both are here to stay. If I'm coding a server or microservice, I use Linux exclusively, no one hosts on Windows. If I'm working on game code, I'm on Windows, exclusively, no one cares about desktop Linux.
My i7-8650U NUC runs Win10. My Qualcomm 7c ECS QC710 runs Win11. My Pentium Silver N600 MSI Cubi N runs Zorin 16 Core. Looking forward to the Raspberry Pi 5. Will probably run Twister OS (or Android). Gave my Chromebook to my daughter for her school work (she loves it, I didn't).
As someone who had a Vista computer as a teen, I got to watch as Vista did hit its stride after it stumbled off the starting line, but it really seemed like MS moved swiftly along to 7 just as that finally started to show.
There's really only one drawback of Linux: laptops with Linux preinstalled aren't available in large retail stores. Soon after that happens (if it does), just watch how desktop Linux leaves Windows and Macs behind in the dust!
And which version of Linux should these laptops use? Should each laptop maker (Dell, HP, Lenovo etc) all use the same one or should they use different ones?
@@GaryExplains that is the biggest issue. Hopefully one day Canonical or IBM manages to make deals with all of the major PC brands like Microsoft did back in the day.
Great video! A very comprehensive comparison between the beauty and the beast - which is which is up to the user! Linux for those of us who want more involvement with the computing experience ,Windows for all the others. There is much to be gained thru familiarity and consistency. IMO most people don't really like change it takes them out of their comfort zone, hence, Windows maintains that experience.....Linux not so much.
I have a core i3 in my laptop and I run Windows 11 just fine. There's a registry entry you have to make too enable your system to upgrade to Windows 11 on an unsupported processor but it's an official Microsoft workaround you can get instructions for how to do it from Microsoft themselves so it can be run it just makes no sense that if they were going to release a workaround for it why they didn't just make it where it could run on those processors without having to go through the hassle
Windows users: Oh no! I haven't restarted in two days! Mac users: Oh no! I haven't restarted in two weeks! Linux users: My last restart? Uhh.... 2 years ago I think? TempleOS users: Restart? Blasphemy! God's temple is eternal!
It's a complex question - In general, Linux is more lightweight than Windows and therefore will run faster in most situations. If you've got older hardware constrained by memory, then Linux will almost certainly be faster overall. But, when it comes to hardware accelerated applications, Windows can be better optimised. E.g. Games. That being said, it isn't always the case as even playing games through Proton, sometimes the games run faster in Linux.
I tend to have a Linux distro running on most of my computers almost by accident. I started with a duel boot, then a separate drive for gaming and music software. Eventually I was buying hardware that would be supported before I could get to work, and building PCs with AMD graphics cards. slippery slope. I always have a windows drive in my main computers (music one and gaming one). Rarely use them ... but they are there just in case I need to get something done, with a random bit of hardware a 'friend' brings over or there is a bit of software that has no equivalent.
It isn't that common but there are cases in which there are no drivers for windows. Well, or more common when the software used to work on Windows but it doesn't anymore or it's just a PITA to make it run again. I had a case in which I wasted a night compiling old software and it still was stuff missing.. then I just popped in a stick with Manjaro and installed it on a partition on the computer of a family member, installed a cli tool that interacts with the the device from one of the standard repos and just did the stuff I wanted to do within five minutes on GNU/Linux...
Being a 78-year-old, non-techie, guy I will stick with Windows even though I hate the monopoly Microsoft has. I tried Linux in Virtual Box using zorin OS core. I liked it and say that it was very much like Windows. Not only that, but I never even had to go into the terminal. But, when I tried putting it on my laptop using Ventoy I ran into a problem. Ventoy erased my Windows OK, but the Linux would not load to my hard drive, so I had to use it off the USB stick until I put Win 10 back on. Something about the partitions which is above my pay grade. Linux is great, but Windows just works for us non-geeks.
The main thing I didn't like about Windows that doesn't happen on Linux at all: IN WINDOWS: Copying or Extracting large files between hard drives through the Windows Explorer stops all possibility of multitasking until the task is complete. IN LINUX: it has a much better task scheduler, you can copy or extract files between hard drives and still multitask in the background with barely any performance loss.
I don't think that is true at all. In fact this week I copied over 10GB of data from my Windows machine to a backup device, using Windows Explorer, and I carried on working on my PC the whole time, without any problems or interruptions. The last time I saw a problem like you describe was Windows 95.
Before Windows 95, operating systems relied on cooperative multitasking, where programs had to voluntarily share resources like the CPU or system bus. However, with the introduction of Windows 95, preemptive multitasking became the norm. In the last two decades, Windows Explorer has allowed running a second copy, enabling users to perform other hard drive-related tasks simultaneously. Of course, smooth multitasking depends on having sufficient overall system resources. I can copy a 95GB or larger single file to an external hard drive while searching for something on the web while another monitor has Cyberpunk 2077 running. You really shouldn't open your mouth to put your foot in it.
Yes let's talk about the information is prying from your PC. Windows for ARM - How many of the LIbs are available for ARM64? Is it probably easier to develop ARM64 software on Linux than Windows? Would it make sense with vehicles like wasm to replace the desktop with a browser?
@@GaryExplains not perse, both the kde desktop, gnome desktop and many other desktop comply to a standard called the "XDG standards" this is irrespective of the gui toolkit. common tools like xdg-open will open a file in the appropiate program for example. the entire directory structure of "desktop" linux is defined by same standard as well. otherwise you wouldn't be able to install the libraries accross different linux "distros" the differences between kde and gnome are more surface level. with package formats like flatpaks and snaps those differences becomes superficial at best also you don't have to use gnome or kde libraries at all, see elementaryos :P
Ok, I'll take the bait. Firstly Linux is officially GNU/Linux with the G in GNU emphasided. G-NU. In a similar way it is G-NOME as the Desktop Environment. One area I don't think you mention where Windows beats Linux hands down is on spying and telemetry. Even deselecting all of the options and making various registry tweaks doesn't stop Microsoft phoning home. Another one is browser selection, for example I set Brave as my default browser in GNOME and every link, I click opens in Brave. On Windows I set Brave as the default and if I click a link from an Office doc, Microsoft says 'let me open that for you in Edge.... it's more safe for you etc.' Finally your assertion that Linux is unfamiliar means you haven't used those distributions that try to ape mac os, Windows 7 or even Windows XP. My sister who has just bought a new machine can't make sense of Windows 11, having come from Windows 7.
LOL, Linux is not officially GNU/Linux. That is nonsense. In fact Linus has specifically said it isn't. Try this video: th-cam.com/video/RNeKYjWx-s4/w-d-xo.html
"I use Linux as my operating system," I state proudly to the unkempt, bearded man. He swivels around in his desk chair with a devilish gleam in his eyes, ready to mansplain with extreme precision. "Actually", he says with a grin, "Linux is just the kernel. You use GNU+Linux!' I don't miss a beat and reply with a smirk, "I use Alpine, a distro that doesn't include the GNU coreutils, or any other GNU code. It's Linux, but it's not GNU+Linux." The smile quickly drops from the man's face. His body begins convulsing and he foams at the mouth and drops to the floor with a sickly thud. As he writhes around he screams "I-IT WAS COMPILED WITH GCC! THAT MEANS IT'S STILL GNU!" Coolly, I reply "If windows was compiled with gcc, would that make it GNU?" I interrupt his response with "-and work is being made on the kernel to make it more compiler-agnostic. Even you were correct, you wont be for long." With a sickly wheeze, the last of the man's life is ejected from his body. He lies on the floor, cold and limp. I've womansplained him to death.
@@GaryExplains Of course you are correct Gary. I'm afraid a man with a beard and twinkly eyes came in and led me astray. I have vowed to stop listening to people with beards.... present company excepted of course.
I use linux since 2003, Redhat 7.2 and Mandrake 6.xx. Then move to Ubuntu 8 in 2009, but I use windows for software development using .net. Miss linux since then but my family wont move from windows so.
Linux is just a kernel. ChromeOS and Android are using Linux. The operating system you refer to as Linux is actually GNU. Commercial is everything for commercial purposes. The question if the software grants its user the four freedoms which define free software is independent whether it's commercial or not. It's just a matter of the license which is offered and agreed upon.
R. Stallman doesn't get to decide whether it is called GNU or not. If basically every user and company refers to GNU/Linux as just Linux, then it is just called Linux.
as a linux gamer i can tell you that windows programs have little to no issue running on the 4 linux distros i checked, maybe one or 2 got glitched but that can be fixed by trying other emulator since raw wine is not the only one, meaning that saying gaming is worse on linux is not a right statement just because some games aren't native, they run as well and most times even better on linux than on windows even if its not native
actually unix was founded at 1971 way before windows became a thing it was built on linux then other distros started popping around at later stage your research was kinda accurate but unix was created in 1971 as a source for other distros
Pff there's plenty of things where the windows driver is hot garbage or literally incompatible with modern windows, while the thing works just fine in Linux - LTT even mentioned a printer driver explicitly in their series on Linux! Personally I've got far more experience than I like with Windows requiring a magic text file to tell it to use _the driver provided with the operating system_ with a device that says it's that type of device - why??
Every few months, I give Linux a chance in dual-boot config with Windows. Tried at least 10 different versions of Linux, being a different distro or different DE of the same distro. Diving deeper into OS mechanics is not a problem for me when I want it. From my experience, I can say that I always felt that I'm dealing with a product in alpha/beta status. Comparing to Windows, every single distro had problems right out of the box. Is it screen tearing, hardware monitoring apps missing great deal of sensors readouts, stubborn CPU governor plan resetting on reboot, monitor not going to suspend mode, or just changing preferences via provided and integrated graphical tools resulting with no response or very strange unpredicted behavior. My latest Linux adventure was with the latest Ubuntu Budgie and Fedora 36. Ubuntu software manager stuck on refreshing on its first run and Fedora refused to boot after a "wrong" choice of updates I choose. Yes I choose kernel update (among others) but I couldn't boot even by choosing the former kernel on boot screen. From the Windows perspective, this is not a final product. It is beta. I've run Win7 for several years then upgraded to Win10. It was year after before I decided fresh installation of a new version, not because problems but a principle that format-install is the best way to go for major hops. Having said that, I love the open source idea and I wholeheartedly support it. That's the reason I like to give a chance to Linux from time to time. But Linux is NOT a reliable system. Not because of its own logic but because it barely copes with Windows/Mac reality.
Linux isnt. meant to be windows or Mac. You're approaching the Linux the wrong way...that why it hasn't worked out for you yet Stop expecting Linux to be windows or Mac. Find alternatives for the software you use of they aren't cross platform or get them to work via wine and/or Lutris and steam, heroic Launcher, etc. The screen tearing problem could be many things but on general AMD GPUs never have that problem OOTB With Nvidia there are a few things to add or do to ensure it doesnt happen and I forgot off hand what those are in the Nvidia x server settings app.
@@motoryzen 1. Desktop Linux is trying to be user friendly for a long time by mimicing Windows. Linux evangelists somehow have prolbems with that. Like...WinXP support running out, switch to Linux. Win7 support runs out, install Linux. 30 years of Linux development and people who still think that the fault is on users rather than the system. Honestly, I can't imagine a 30 years OS evolution and still having problems with power management, GPU drivers to name a few. There are actualy many more problems with most of linux distros. Do you really think that everyone is stupid to not notice that the system has serious flaws? Do you really think that Windows users can't tell that the thing doesn't work as it should?
@@ImplosiveCatt it isn't about mimicking Winturd.. reality check...before crapple and microshit produced their own GUI versions of their o.ss...xerox already beat them to the punch. And I couldn't care any less even if that is the case depending on the Distro or d.e. What matters is what it works and to a reasonable extent the distro is a good enough smooth enough gentle enough transition from the winturd world to the Linux world in that THAT is one less reason why the Linux noob will want to go back to windows. Over 30 years of winturd os creation, maintains and development and microshit still thinks the only reason windows users become frustrated with using winturd is that is their ( the end user) own fault. Ah...last I checked...a f ucking update in the Linux world (cough October update within 4 years ago or less cough) DIDN'T cause data loss when an end user connected an external storage drive and linked a " Library" folder to it. Last I checked..Linux users ARENT the ones being digitally infected on a daily or weekly basis..( and I've checked.on this literally every single weekly for over 11 years that I've been using Linux Mint Cinnamon btw and it STILL hasn't changed) Why? Is it because the Linux world has far fewer digital infects being created and sent out? Not just that..but more.importantly HOW the Linux eggheads have dealt with this vulnerabilities...lightning fast...with some damn sense and resolve..EVERY...SINGLE...ONE of them Meanwhile microshit as usually has their dollar sign infected head so far up their bosses and share holders a$$es as well as trying to REMOVE more control away from their end.users...you must chop off the head to find them instead of focusing on ACTUALLY correctly fixing problems. Yeah good luck arguing against any of that. What's next? Are ya gonna tell me there are more than two genders for physically living human beings too? Lol...it Wouldn't surprise me
@@ImplosiveCatt the problem. With many windows users who consider trying any Linux distro can be many fold. A. Just jumping in to a distro without even READING a single damn thing about it. Including asking others on TH-cam and many other sites . B. Expecting Linux to BE windows. Linux is NOT Windows..and thank God for that. 3. Thinking that Linux forum site members OWE Linux noobs coming from Windows anything, and even more applicably Not taking a measly minute to read a bit of the forum rules. Reality check..we DONT expect incoming windows to Linux noobs to know a bunch of terminal commands..but it's not like to take a f ucking software dev to know how to o clock on stuff, highlight, copy, come back to the site..and paste info that the experienced Linux user needs to narrow down the problem in order to HELP the Linux noob resolve it. And even some want to argue that they won't do it because they're afraid inxi -Fxxxmprz will show others very personal info about their PCs, which couldn't be further from the truth, and then want to lash out whining with ," see this is why Linux sucks and will always be behind" calling us elitist snobs when it's THEM..the damn complacent few from Windows, are the idiots acting like bratty 5 years olds and then WONDER why some of us Linux veterans tell them to go f uck themselves in the @$$hokes with aids infect d#$ks? Duh. Gpu driver problems? Sure..with Nvidia sometimes..not as bad as.ir used to be,. It still..build with or buy and.gpus and you never need to worry about that...the correct drivers are built right into the damn kernel It's not rocket science..it's called critical thinking and not generalizing everything. Try it
@@motoryzen Look, I'm Win daily user and a couple of couple and couple of months Linux user. I know what I'm talking about and you need professional help. Simple as that.
Whatever. I use whatever is available. SBCs running various Linux distris, SBCs running WIN ARM, Chromebooks, Linux notebooks, Windows Notebooks, Macbooks, WIN desktops, Hackintoshes, Linux desktops, and a Dual Xeon Hackintosh Pro with 96 GB as my dedicated A/V machine. They are tools and I use the best tool for the job.
Like Windows and MacOS, Linux proves once again that it takes the talent and money Big Corporations offer to bring to success to failure, it is because of Big Corps that Linux lives.
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I switched to Desktop Linux in 2014 from MacOS. I love it. I used Ubuntu 2014 to 2019. KDE Plasma from 2019 - 2021. Linux Mint Cinnamon since April 2021.
That sounds like you switched when Snow Leopard was about to lose support. I still have a standard and a server version of Snow Leopard on a couple of machines, and I think it was the last really good OSX.
Do you use Flatpak ?
Now jump on board with Arch Linux and never look back!
what "I switched to Desktop Linux from windows OS" mean some logic why you switched from MAC OS . LInux and Mac os both based on UNIX PHILOSOPHY AND PRINCIPLE RIGHT .....
@@BlockchainRealms Maybe because every desktop manager I've ever used in Linux is way more accessible than OSX? I love being able to use Super-Left Arrow, Right Arrow.
As a software developer who works with open souce, Linux provides a richer experience and with certain distributions being light on resources as well .
Another interesting use of a Linux bootable pen drive is recovering data from partially corrupted windows installations which won't boot or show the blue screen.
I recently dealt with an HP laptop, that couldn't even boot up to a recovery or install from a flash drive of Windows 10, blue screen every time. Linux Mint booted fine, installed fine, only issue was with the trackpad not working, but that might just need some software swapped.
@@javabeanz8549 have u tried Solus linux? i heard it has support for a of lot of trackpad hardware
@@javabeanz8549 Yeah it's pretty likely a synaptics driver that isn't in the kernel and that you need to install from a repo.
@@javabeanz8549 you are lying here " couldn't even boot up to a recovery or install from a flash drive of Windows 10". there is no reason why you can't install windows from flash drive.
@@prakhars962 no lies, actual facts, but I don't know the reason. The laptop refused to boot into Windows, blue screen every time, some attempts it error out in a few minutes, others could take a half hour. Same USB boot media booted to an installer screen just fine. So maybe you should just apologize now, and not be making accusations that you can't back up.
I think one of the biggest barriers to folks switching to Linux has to do with where people get their OS from. Most people get it on the computer they purchase. What do most OEMs install on their PCs? Windows, of course. If more hardware manufacturers released their computers with certain Linux distributions (like ZorinOS, or other very easy-to-use distros), I think more people would get exposed to how easy it is to use. People use their computers for browsing the web, checking mail, viewing pictures, and maybe playing some games. Most of what people use their computer for could easily be done in Linux, with a minimal learning curve.
Yep. I installed Mint on my grandma’s old laptop so she could watch religious TH-cam videos - she didn’t even notice the OS.
The only way people will start buying computers with Linux preinstalled is if they're cheaper than the Windows pc. While it's great that System 76 and Tuxedo sell Linux Pcs, they're pretty expensive, and no normie is going to buy one when a Windows pc is a few hundred bucks at Wal-Mart. They would if they could save $100 though. I think Android phones have proven this. Android dominates the cellular market, because phones can be acquired for literally $20 and up.
@@abdullahal-shimri3091 are you religious
mainly the stability of linux is not really guaranteed, and microsoft is very capitalist
M$ has firm contracts with PC manufacturers. Gatea simply stop supplying manufactures with windows copies if they offer ant other o/s. He strong arms the manufacturers. He does the same thing with hardware manufacturers and certain printer companies. Windows is an EVIL company
I abandoned Windoze back in 1998 and exclusively ise Linux in all my computers.
And who needs Adobe with there bad business practice and super high costs. They no longer have ANY distribution costs, so why didn't their product cost go down??? I dont uae any adobe products and as a matte of fact, a large portion of the film industry has dumped them as well. They now use DaVinci resolve. There is a FREE version for all platforms (windows, mac & Linux) eben thr pro version is only $300 one time fee. That is Extremely reasonable!! I use GIMP instead of photoshop. And dark table for still images.
Windows & Adobe BOTH suck!!
I found that the barriers of switching to Linux honestly dissolved quickly once I finally made the jump. It takes some time and adjusting your workflow for sure but it’s well worth it and there is so much great software available to fill in the gaps
This is all well and good for you. But, for the average consumer, it is either Windows of MacOS as they are these most straightforward, accessible and easiest solutions. It is just like smartphones. Apple is the world's largest vendor of smartphone with their tight range of iPhones. Which is in large measure due to the fact that Apple makes their phones the easiest to use.
@@user-kc1tf7zm3b Buy a Raspberry Pi4b, put Twister OS on it, toss the apple in the trash. Need Android? Buy a second flash card. Samsung bar 128GB 400mb/s. Twister has the Mac layout, or windows, or Linux. Then run it with 2 screens, then buy your second Pi4, 3 screens, then get a 3rd Pi4 running a screen each... and a 4th for some kind of portable device you buy, then build a better portable 4th, then bitch about when's the Pi5 coming!?! Pi4 is the way to get into Linux and find out what you can do with them. Once you're in it and comfortable then figure out how you can spend more money on the hardware.
@@pgtmr2713 You are missing the point: 99% of computer users do not care to get into the weeds, to find out how a computer works and build their own machines. If nothing else, the Linux free distro aspect is irrelevant, even for those who wish to build a computer, as Windows Pro licences can be had from Ebay for just a few dollars.
Just about everyone simply wants their computer to work when they unpack it from the shop. Ease of use, finesse, familiarity and predictability with Windows or MacOS matters to nearly all users. Which is why Linux will not supplant either OS in the consumer, and, especially in the corporate and government spaces.
But, for those who like to tinker, especially who can do all of their work in the cloud, Raspberry Pi SBCs do offer the tantalising possibility to use a computer at a very low cost. All the while using a tiny computer which needs next to no desk space.
@@user-kc1tf7zm3b You're not understanding, Twister OS is that easy to use. If somehow you do find yourself lost... the fact that it's a Raspberry Pi means there's tons of people making videos on how to do anything that can be done. Which relates to Linux. Desk space is almost an irrelevant argument. Everything has a screen, keyboard and mouse minimally. Also irrelevant when they multiply like rabbits. Laser trackballs help with space issues. I'm 100 % confident a Mac user could daily a Pi4 and not miss anything.
@@pgtmr2713 Bloody hell! You have no understanding how consumer psychology and consumer habits work in the real world. Only a small subset of computer users want to bother to dabble and tinker with computers they built themselves. Nearly all consumers want an easy straight of the box Windows PC or Apple Mac experience. This is as true today as it was 15 years ago in 2007. And, as it will be in 15 years time, come 2037. If there is one lesson which is to be gleaned from Apple Inc. as to how to be a fabulously successful company is this: make consumer products easy to use.
It is all very easy for you to say that “Raspberry Pi and Linux are easy to use” when you have an interest, desire, experience and ability to acquit yourself well in these endeavours. Again, the everyday consumer who sees a computer as a machine, like a microwave oven, just wants their computing experience to be simple and straightforward. Your YT videos do provide insights to your proclivities where you restore classic 1990s cars as a hobby. Most people do not care to undertake serious maintenance and repair of their cars. Especially with old cars from a full generation ago which are perhaps older than themselves. Most people would rather purchase a new car, then simply delegate all servicing and maintenance to the car manufacturers’ dealer workshops.
As for the benefits of space saving with SBCs, this can be a critical factor for those who have inherent space constraints which can never be resolved. For those living in flats, units and apartments, there is no scope whatsoever to build out and up to produce more working space. For people who have to contend with a small room and a modest desk, the promise of ditching a behemoth legacy PC with a diminutive SBC is a very enticing prospect indeed. As this drastically reduces costs and frees up valuable space.
the only trouble will be getting into linux for the fist time . if you use it and get used to it , theres no going back , unless you need that specific software thats not there in linux and is really important
In my case it's Visual Studio (not Visual Studio Code but the full Visual Studio). So I'm staying on Windows 10 for now.
@@IcouldBNE1 Depending on what kind of projects you work on, you could give JetBrains Rider a try.
Unfortunately I also have to work on legacy Windows Forms apps every now and then. Remote Desktop clients on Linux always give me problems for some reason, and as soon as I find myself wanting to run Windows virtually on Linux I start asking myself what the point is. Might as well run Windows then.
Linux has been getting quite a lot of games (even AAA) in recent years, which surprises me given the fact it has few times less market share than macOS, which was weird before apple silicon became a thing.
The only wall that stops linux from being a amazing gaming os is the anticheat
Actually, there are more linux users using steam than OSX users, since 2021.
One thing I think is 'lost' is where Linux was 'fitting' into peoples lives. Back in the 90's, we used to do 'Install fests' with older hardware where we helped people replace Windows and install Linux.
Who were these people? Often you had your 'hobby' types but a lot of that was from people who just couldn't afford buying new hardware every time a new version of Windows came out. Folks that didn't want to 'throw away' that investment and still make some use of it. Sometimes it was just somebody who didn't even have a computer and had something 'old' given/donated. Aka: the rest of us we don't think about.
So a lot of this was 'recycling' and getting something in the hands of folks that were 'left behind' in the "Intel givith, Microsoft taketh away" (aka: Intel would release better processors and Microsoft would release a new version of Windows that would 'kill' that performance gain... forcing you to buy new hardware.... if you could afford that... and end up right where you were... with a sluggish OS). Not everybody can just keep buying computers every few years and will keep what they have and know it won't support the 'next' version of Windows (hardware is fine, just not supported or will run awful on the next version of Windows).
Back in those days, I used to have a side business and I'd go out to more affluent people business and homes and service their 'new' computers. I would ask folks if they had anything to recycle and often had a perfectly good, but older, system sitting in their garage and would be happy for me to take it off their hands. I worked with a recycler and if I that system was 'missing' parts and it was worth it, I'd put Linux with XWindows on it and give it away to people that had nothing and were left behind (would never be able to afford a computer). AKA: addressing the technology 'gap'.
Generally, when a 'new' version of Windows came out, it meant that the 'last' generation of systems got really cheap. That's when I would pick up systems for myself 'cheap'. Even where I worked, those old systems were considered 'trash' and I could just 'ask' and fill out a form to just 'get it for free'. Fast forward, I was really excited when Windows 11 came out. Why? Because it didn't support systems without TPM and such and those system run on Linux 'perfectly' and much faster _but_ the demand wasn't there for them for 'Windows people'. So I've been picking up those systems cheap and helping folks that can't keep up with the Windows system 'churn'.
A lot of desktop linux is in the 'after market'. I just helped 2 people spec out new systems that supported Windows 11 and they 'gave me' their old laptops after I got their files transferred over. I put Fedora Linux on the old laptops... runs better than it ever did on Windows.. and gave them away to 2 people who don't even have computer already or 'anymore' who can't afford to buy a computer.
Generally, that 'focus' on Ubuntu is really no 'milestone' in the desktop beyond two things: One, it was a much improved desktop and two, it supported a lot of older hardware better so it quickly became a 'first choice' in the recycling distribution, usually the 'Mint' spin (because it was the distribution that 'worked' on an older system... I'd often try a few different ones on 'stubborn' systems to find one that would work).
Talking about the 'after market' with linux isn't as 'sexy' as the 'latest and greatest' but that's really where a lot of desktop linux systems live (on recycled systems in the 'disposable' computer market place dominated with that proprietary OS... same with Mac's.... I've put linux on several PowerPC systems bringing them 'back to life' as well for people in 'need').
The Almighty Algorithm brought me to this channel (the newer-than-this-one Windows vs Linux RAM video) and I liked it so I looked at others and am now here. And now, thanks to your comment, I am smiling. I commend your efforts to help those less fortunate and, while I did not personally benefit from said efforts, I still wish to thank you for them. Seriously, that's awesome.
When I was in HS my school got new computers and sold the old hardware for $5 per piece (would've given it away, but wanted to deter people taking them just cuz free). My brothers and I got a computer and monitor each for $10 and they were actually better than anything we had at the house at the time. We got to LAN sooooooo many games that we otherwise couldn't have played single player, and that was great. The Total Annihilation games were fun as hell, as well as LAN Diablo 2, Starcraft, Warcraft 3, etc. So basically I benefited from *similar* to what you have provided and I am always happy to see comments like this where someone relates acts of genuine benevolence.
@@ThomasWinget I LOVED Total Annihilation 2 and Diablo 2 and Starcraft 1!!
Basically Linux has been successful in every place that is not the desktop, and anything related to the desktop. Anyway I think it's slowly changing since 10 years ago, and now it's not hard to find people using Linux in the office or at home. It has helped some excellent apps also available natively for Linux.
Windows is that one slutty chick who you and your friends always sleep around with but never take seriously.
Linux is that one nerdy girl who likes you but you pretty much friendzone her.
Mac is that attractive blonde woman you met and thought you wanna go serious with her until you found out how vapid and shallow she is.
TempleOS is your average based and holy traditional woman whom you wife immediately.
MS DOS is the 93 year old woman who flirts with you in the supermarket.
I've always used Windows at work so I'm most familiar with it. I've used several Ubuntu based distros, have a Chromebook, and had a Mac for awhile. If I had to pick 1, Windows simply b/c it is everywhere and has drivers for most anything. Linux is the most fun and can work as well as Windows once you learn it, Chrome OS has very limited driver support compared to a Linux Distro, and Apple always gets a low grade from me as it doesn't play well with others. That was a great video! Thanks
@Kekistani Meme Warrior You are missing the point. For the average consumer, as Ms Roy points out, Windows is indeed everywhere and by far and the way the most prevalent and prominent ecosystem. For Ms Average looking for a computer at a major retailer in the West, the options presented on the shop display tables are mostly Windows PCs. Or, Macs to a much lesser extent. This was just as true in 2002 and in 2012, as it is today.
For the average consumer, it is either Windows of MacOS as they are these most straightforward, accessible and easiest solutions. It is just like smartphones. Apple is the world's largest vendor of smartphone with their tight range of iPhones, which is in large measure due to the fact that Apple makes their phones the easiest to use.
@Kekistani Meme Warrior "Linux is EVERYWHERE" - Despite my wishes, no it's not. My work (and I suspect many other peoples workplaces are 100% Windows"
@@kychemclass5850 Same here.
"I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional ..."
*proceeds to make one of the most important software of modern times*
chad
Using Arch + Gnome best decision in my life, great video sir... :)
I love linux
12:30 wayland is not a display server, it's a protocol.
mir is a display server that speaks wayland, typically desktops have their own wayland display server.
So really it's just a desktop on either x11 or their own wayland display server
"wayland is not a display server"
"either x11 or their own wayland display server"
Surprised Pikachu face!
@@Winnetou17 yes that's not a contradiction. mir is a display server that speaks the wayland protocol; it is **a** wayland display server. for simplicity's sake this makes kwin, mutter and other window manager also "wayland display servers".
applications written with the wayland protocol in mind will work without modification on any of these "Wayland display servers"
for comparison take a web browser vs http http is a protocol, firefox, chrome, vivaldi and friends all speak http, so we can browse https websites. firefox and friends are http webbrowsers, they however don't speak the gopher protocol (a very old web protocol)
gopher is x11
http is wayland
webbrowser is the display server ;)
I would highly recommend having both. windows is far easier to use, but linux does a few things far better and can be less buggy sometimes. Bluetooth audio and printing work on linux. Some games work better on linux through proton then they do on windows.
That we live in a time where someone would use Linux because Windows games run better there is fascinating. Kudos to Valve and the other Wine devs
@@nils.offermann yea and I would not have believed it until I saw it for myself.
Your statement just proves how cheap computing has become, as people can afford two computers.
@@tonysheerness2427 No need for two computers to run two operating systems
@@tonysheerness2427 Well one is 5 or 6 years old the other I have been saving up for for a year or two. So yes they are cheap, but with time you can save a lot of money. So it also shows how long they last.
I have a different experience with printers, especially when windows ages. a lot of old (e.g. industrial) printers don't have drivers for newest versions of windows and the old ones do not work. I have found that linux supports them out of the box and they work fantastic. that said, it's true that someone needs to do research before buying a piece of hardware to make sure it works well on linux, although nowadays things are much better than it was a few years ago. most stuff work out of the box and that's the beauty of it. there is still incompatibility with rgb on peripherals and some streaming equipment.
I experienced that issue with Windows long ago, moving a water district from 98 to 2000, and the printer driver they needed to print their statement was no longer available. It wasn't even for a specific printer, just dot matrix text, with appropriate page size options for the sizes of postcards. Also ran into network printer issues in 3.11 WFW, and the MicroSoft answer was "it's fixed in the next version of Windows", however, it wasn't fixed in 95 either...
Agreed - I've always found good support WRT hardware on Linux. Isn't too bad.
exactly. my experience has been opposite to what Gary mentions. Most old hardware works flawlessly with Linux. Its the latest that has trouble.
Fantastic video as always, thanks Gary. I would be very interested to watch a video on security and malware and the differences between MacOS, Windows and Linux.
I am very interested in watching more about Linux and hearing about the technical differences.
I think the Desktop and Graphics pipeline fragmentation is the single biggest problem with Linux OS. On the one hand, having choice is nice, but it is a nightmare for developers. It causes no end of problems. Everything from Vsync problems, poor/degraded performance (having to choose a GPU heavy compositor to get a decent modern UI and give up performance or gain performance w/o a compositor but deal with Vsync issues and no effects), Mismatched theming issues with Qt and GDK applications, further worsened by containerized applications (FlatPak, snap), Issues with real games, Like inconsistent light and dark theme icons and windows, the list goes on and on and on.
Only a proprietary developer would hate for users to have a choice.
"MacOS is only available on Apple hardware."
-sent via Hackintosh
Fragmentation is only a problem if you call Linux *an* operating system, in reality Linux is *a family of* operating systems
You can start to see this with the direction elementaryOS took it, linux "distros" are really separate Linux operating systems. It just so happens that a lot of linux operating systems are interoperable to a certain degree
Agreed.
I thought Linux was a kernel and distributions were the family of operating systems.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus distributions on their can be based on bsd, haiku, redox and others.
What differentiates them is the kernel around which are born, the kernel is exactly what it sounds like; the core of the operating system.
When people say 'I say linux' they typically don't mean they build their own os around the linux kernel, instead they more likely mean they use a operation build on top of the linux kernel. Or said more simply they use a 'linux based operating system' or a 'linux operating system (linux distro)
So while yes linux is the kernel, colloqually linux refers to the family of operating systems that are based on the linux kernel
Thank you for such thorought and unbiased (as possible) description and explanation. You even mentioned topics that are not covered in the video, but at least named them so curious viewers can search for them.
I'm really enjoying this history of windows vs Linux.. great video..
Glad to hear it!
*Nix System: No key-logging, no data collection, no pay-for-play subscription services, no ads in the file browser, no watermark on your desktop, complete freedom and privacy, powerful utils installed already, thousands of free programs of every kind etc...
Also great for gaming and running Adobe Creative Suite.
Windows has very good support for Raspberry Pi. People allowed people to install Windows 11 to be installed. Which I think its cool. Windows is needs more resources and tends to be slower than Linux but if the Raspberry Pi can run it. Thats awesome for a £70 computer that was made to run Linux or FreeBSD. :)
Not sure if you get updates as the Pi does not have a TPM????
It would definitely interest me to dive deeper as with more and more cross plattform applications and better UI support and so on the deeper technical differences might end up the major thing that will set Linux and Windows apart in the future
Yeah, Qt runs basically everywhere. GTK works well on desktop Linux and there is a way to use it on Windows and libadwaita makes it possible to use the same app on desktop and mobile form factors.
I would have loved if you covered cloud / container based computing more. I really think this has been a big win for linux. Docker, WSL, VMWare, VirtualBox, etc.
I think I pointed out several time that the Cloud and servers are a big win for Linux.
I'd love a part two to this
Switched from Windows to Arch earlier this year, was a bit of a learning curve but well worth it.
Cool, head first into the cold waters that are Arch linux.
You have my respect.
Do you still like it?
Nice video.
I moved to Linux after Windows 11 came out and said you need an M$ account to even use the system. Then I started having issues with my games just crashing and not working.
Under Linux (with Lutris) my games just work and my emulator (PCSX2) is faster and I can just use my system without it phoning home to Microsoft and thrashing my CPU with updates.
Linux has better performance than Windows. Sure Adobe and Microsoft Office aren't available, but I can make due with GIMP and LibreOffice. Plus side? I no longer have to pay Microsoft and Adobe north of $15/month for office software anymore.
You need account only for Home and there is a way around that too. They will be making it with account even for Pro, but people will find a way around for sure. Also usually people using windows are also visiting sites to download "linux ISOs" 😉 (yes I'm talking about pirating office and adobe products, I rather pay only with my data than my data and my wallet)
@Bolivian-Lament I know and I said that, and just like people found a way around home, they will around pro. Also I don't really care as I'm more of a LTSC user.
@Bolivian-Lament I'm not saying its not a shitting practice, sure is, but definitely not something to push me to switch away from windows.
@@tiltedbybox6118 People already found a workaround. You just gotta kill the networking process/service (?) when it asks you for an account and that'll let you create a local account instead.
Or, you could just run the enterprise/education editions or just continue using Win 10 (way better than win 11 imho).
@@tiltedbybox6118 I'd rather run Linux and FOSS software and not be forced to pay with either,.
I can donate to my favorite projects though. Other than that, all my software is FOSS. Screw Adobe and Microsoft.
A follow up video would be highly appreciated, and thx for this one… ;-)
I enjoyed the trip down memory lane. I started out with Aegis/Unix in the 1980s and never thought there would be a use for multiple desktops.
Gary. Thank you so much for this video. I just built a speed demon computer for my self. But Microsoft thinks otherwise. So instead of buying a MS approved motherboard I’m strongly considering some flavor of Linux So can you do a video on security and the issues you mentioned at end of this video. THANK YOU 🙏
I would recommend downloading the latest Linux Mint, put it on a flash drive and booting it up to try it out. And if you are not sure that you are ready to go Linux, you can get yourself a cheap SSD to put in your beast of a computer, and install to that. Or if you are using nVidia GPU, you might consider Pop!_OS.
I use Arch BTW 🐸
I dual boot - run Linux for work (engineering) and Windows for games.
I used to run a hackintosh and really love the MacOS desktop environment - I would love it if someone rebuilt the MacOS DE for Linux verbatim.
Gnome 4 is making strides in terms of UX which gives me optimism
I know there is a channel called LinuxScoop that did a video on how to customize the different DE environments, like they show you some they made and do step by step instructions.
One was a MacOS themed one, take a look there it looked quite good
I have to ask: is it anti-cheat in the games you play that prevents them running fine on Linux? Genuinely curious, not trying to be on a high horse or anything! It's just that these days I have more trouble finding a game I want to play that *doesn't* run well, but I imagine that says more about my taste in games...
@@ThomasWinget not really, it's more just broad support for games and game tooling. I play VR games and enjoy games that just take too much effort to get working on Linux - but I spend 70% of my time in Linux now days - but I play fewer games
@@DavidAlsh ah, VR I can understand. I have wonky eyes (looks like lazy eye) so I have no proper depth perception...as such, I haven't even *tried* VR because I assume it will be a waste of money. That said, as far as "games that just take too much effort to get working on Linux" I'm actually curious which games. I know there are a lot of games that don't work well -- yet -- I'm just curious which specific ones.
try out cutefish Desktop environment
Agreed with almost everything said and especially had a chuckle about 3 friends running different versions. Very true. Where I differ slightly is the hardware support - having run Linux for about 14 years, I have seldom run into hardare support issues. Virtually all of my hardware has been fully supported over the years. Whilst there definitely is less support for Linux compared to Windows, I don't think it's as bad as it used to be in the past. That being said - I do check Linux support before buying and only once or twice have based purchasing decisions based on lack of support. Regarding fragmentation - It's a double edged sword. Ultimate customisability, but can be confusing to newcomers. As a first time user, I totally understand the bewildering choice which could be off-putting. But, the the longer I've used Linux, the more I found that I predered to customise it the way that I wanted and gravitated towards the lighter/simpler versions. At the moment I'm using Mint, but would be happy with Arch from scratch. On my Pi, I built a customised setup with Pi OS based and IceWM to be super lightweight.
Re: "3 friends running different versions." - while quite likely it's actually an irrelevant / inconsequential point. Each user would probably say Linux is great and advise a new user to get onto Linux - choosing a Desktop/distro that best matches the new users requirements / is closest to the users familiarity zone.
@@kychemclass5850 Agreed. The more I use Linux, the less it matters to me what flavor I use. I use Linux on all my personal devices and have recommended Linux to so many people over the years. The only Windows based machine I have is my work laptop for Microsoft .Net development.
@@steven1000000000 Sadly my workplace is 100% Windows dominated. I can't tell you how chuffed I am at making the change to Linux and being able to survive in such an environment (other than being too lazy to ask IT to get my Linux laptop to be able to access the ethernet connected printing). I have a dream of converting the whole site to Linux, however as it's an "offshoot" from a much larger organization I seriously doubt the management would have the courage or individuality to make the switch. :(
While attending Benson Polytechnic High School in Portland Oregon, majoring in Electronics, graduating in 1984, back when it was "normal", I was a Tektronix Explorer Scout in Beaverton. I was even elected as President since no one ran against me. We were exposed to Linux at Tektronix. You have done a masterful job of explaining 101 things about Linux I never knew. So I intend to finally try a usb stick. Do you have a video on which usb stick for Linux to get. Thanks.
gary still for president :) 260k subs now - wow - i remember being here from the very start. info on side: installed windows 11 on a 7th gen i5 the other day without tweaking anything. seems like MS pedaled back a little bit. greetz gary - you rock mate.
Regarding drivers. I once got the news that Linux' drivers for printers improved and when I tried connecting the printer, to my surprise, it just did. When I pressed "print" it did.
What caused my biggest surprise is that this same (hp) printer hardly worked on Windows, if I was lucky.
Graphics drivers have come a long way. Old hardware is better supported on Linux period. Many devices work out of the box whereas on Windows I often need to find some driver on some shady website with a theme from 2002 and hope it works and isn't a virus.
Only for some really obscure hardware you may find issues, but these days I'd say Linux is at least on par on the driver front if not better.
HP printers are notorious with drivers. I've never, ever been happy with them. I think the smoothest printer I've ever used is Canon
I have never needed a driver for a mouse or keyboard in Linux, unlike trying to get a MicroSoft keyboard and mouse installed in Windows. Or trying to install some network card in Windows so you can bring it online, only to have Windows tell you that it wants to search online for the driver. Now, I don't use Windows anymore, but I sometimes have to fix Windows for others, so they may have fixed some of those issues in recent years.
What the hell are you guys smoking ? (CapnTates and Java Beanz) Linux has come a long way in the drivers for desktop computers department, but it's still significantly behind Windows.
If only that if you buy a new computer and peripherals you absolutely have no fear that it won't be supported by Windows, but you do have to check if it's supported by Linux. Even basic stuff like wifi and bluetooth support can be missing. And regarding peripherals, there are many companies who simply don't bother to make a driver for Linux, hence the situation here. I do hope it gets ironed out and get to be a non-issue as Linux popularity will rise and get to two digits market share.
Oh, and fuck NVidia!
@@Winnetou17 What are YOU smoking? MicroSoft has removed support for some of their OWN hardware. Which is why I will not buy anything branded MicroSoft. Even when they were making someone decent hardware, they refused to warranty things, got stuck with unusable keyboards and mice.
But yes, there are companies that don't bother to support their hardware for anything other than Windows, and I have no reason to purchase their hardware, as many of them won't even support their hardware for the NEXT or PREVIOUS versions of Windows.
Now more recently, Intel and AMD have been contributing to the Linux Kernel for their upcoming devices. Valve and others have been as well. So at least for some hardware from major vendors, Linux has baked in support BEFORE release. I will admit, that the support will likely only be in the latest kernel versions, and not in any distro you can just download and install from the image.
I think your comparison is not fair on some points:
1.) GUI: First there are many more ways to program GUIs on Windows. You can use QT and GTK too for instance. I always find the Microsoft documentation of Windows APIs completely incomplete and not open in any way which makes it way harder to do stuff on Windows. There aren't even man pages guys!
2.) Fragmentation: Sure there is not a wide fragmentation in Windows but that's because it's essentially only one distro/desktop equivalent to Linux distros/desktop and users simply don't have a choice. I would not frame that as an advantage. Also, many Windows users don't even know there is a different choice (Sumatra vs AdobeReader for instance) and they don't have the urge thereby, but sure there is.
My Windows setup was completely different to many peoples Windows setup for instance (used Chocolatey only, disabled many core functions like MS Store, Onedrive, used almost only foss applications like SumatraPDF).
3.) Drivers: That's simply not true. The open-source drivers for AMD cards are superior on Linux. Especially those crafted by the Mesa Project. Also, I always had troubles getting printers to work properly on Windows on wide range of hardware and software on both sides (Windows 7-10, several printers). On Linux it's so much easier to setup HP printers for instance. There is an text installer that's foss (hplip). It will automatically set up fax, printer and scanner. Most of my printers I use, do not even require drivers to be installed. Like my Samsung printer. I just connect via Wi-Fi direct, and scanner and printer are simply found and added automatically to every dialogue used for scanning and printing in consistent manner. This is true for many more products where I don't have to install drivers via CD or download fishy drivers via the internet with bunch of bloatware and advertisement like the Samsung drivers on Windows. The only problem on Linux is to know the right packages to install which is a breeze on Arch with the superb Arch-wiki or Ubuntu where everything is preinstalled.
Wi-Fi was a pain for me though to be fair but nowadays, it's not an issue any more I feel because you can just buy Intel AX200 and that works. I even fixed some driver issues of the AX200 by chatting with the Intel support, which was up streamed to the Linux kernel. It's mostly ignorance and pure incompetence of the companies and people if there is no Linux driver. Like Nvidia always does something weird and stupid on Linux. Just stay away from Nvidia. Stupid company, pushing odd proprietary technology like CUDA and thinks it gets away.
4.) Gaming: Steam is available for Linux too, what's the point? Epic can be installed via Legendary. Anti-cheat is a problem but indie-games (which were the better games the past years) work flawlessly and even big and new titles like MH Rise work perfect or even better on Linux.
I think you jumped a little elegantly over the "its familiar, which means its compatible" thing. MS super power has always been that it had some compatibility for software made for earlier versions. This is not only about familiarity but also about technical support in ABI and API. Until the arrival of Flatpak and Snap, there hasn't really been anything like that on Linux or even Unix. So I think you could have mentioned that.
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't really see any information on the base power/efficiency of the core OS design. Like if you were to take away everything from the gui to bundled applications to any application released. Which OS would be more efficient build a UI, functionality components and code applications for from the ground up.
He mentioned it. It's Linux 100%. That's why small devices and super computers only run Linux.
Linux compared to 25 years ago blows windows out of the water in many ways. It works wonders for older hardware too.
very balanced comparison.
Very good information. Thankyou!
Slight inaccuracy: LXDE is not based on Gnome, but on GTK+. GTK+ (at least originally) meant "Gimp Toolkit", as it was the toolkit created to develop Gimp (GNU Image Manipulation Program).
It's amazing how far Linux gaming has come. I can almost blindly buy DirectX 11 (DXVK) titles and they will run OOTB. Biggest gamebreakers are DirectX 12 (vkd3d) titles as vkd3d is not as advanced as DXVK yet and of course titles using EAC and the like anticheat software.
22:29 we interested Gary! thanks gor the videos
Windows11 now requires a microsoft account btw , it is like microsoft is trying to drive users away. I have been running Linux since 2005 - Slackware Linux, still using Slackware today.
Why I use Linux: It's been a long time since I've used Windows, but I vaguely remember being nagged to buy Microsoft Office. I remember being forced to sign up for a Microsoft account. I remember every time I bought a new computer, I had to spend several days deleting bloatware. On my Android phone, there are apps I want to delete that it won't let me delete. None of those problems exist with Linux. It comes with a culture of free, open source software, and having complete control of your computer. I'm never nagged to buy or do anything. I'm not prevented from doing anything. Even if my version of Linux does something I don't like (like Ubuntu starting to use Snap packages), I can always switch to a different distribution of Linux (like Arch, which is my current plan).
I started using Linux around 2008 (dual booting with Windows). After several years of that, I just deleted Windows entirely. I don't miss it. I was using Quicken money management software, which I had to give up, but it was a small price to pay for what I got in return. I don't play games. I mostly use the Firefox web browser, LibreOffice for word processing and spreadsheets, and Emacs, Vim, and VS Code for amateur programming. I've done programming in Python, Racket, Haskell, C, C++, Julia, Java, Rust, and Go with no problems (except Java with Eclipse).
I don't try to convince people to switch to Linux. That is different but just as bad as the nagging that I experienced when I was using Windows.
@Bolivian-Lament I think telemetry is a good thing. It helps programmers improve their software and fix bugs. If I'm using software and it crashes or has a problem, I want the programmers to know about it so they can fix it. That's what telemetry does. Filing bug reports is too much of a hassle to be useful.
@Bolivian-Lament When thinking about privacy (or lack of privacy) with computers or the Internet, I ask the question, "How can it harm me?" How could VS Code's telemetry harm me? I can't think of anything. It doesn't have my credit card number or home address. I suppose it could search through my hard drive looking for email addresses or naughty pictures or something to send back to Microsoft, but then it wouldn't be telemetry, it would be malware.
I don't have anything against Microsoft. Its OS is annoying so I don't use it. If VS Code became annoying, I wouldn't use it either. If I ever got my computer science degree and got a job offer from Microsoft, I would be happy to work for them.
@Bolivian-Lament Your argument suggests that we know what open source software does. That is only true if you look through and analyze the source code. Who does that? Nobody. Maybe you've looked through some code that you use, but you haven't looked through all of it. If you think the open source community does it, there's just too much software out there for that to be practical. It's an unsolved problem. I expect it to get better in the future with AI systems that can check for bugs, vulnerabilities, and malware, but it will be a decades-long evolution.
@Bolivian-Lament Let me guess: you haven't done that. Who would you ask? Do you know anyone who has analyzed the millions of lines of code in the Linux kernel? or the browser you use? I doubt it. The people to ask are either the actual developers who don't have time for people like you or random people on the Internet who are way less trustworthy than Microsoft.
@Bolivian-Lament I didn't say open and closed source are the same. I just don't live in a fantasy land where users of software vet the millions of lines of code in the software that they use every day -- or think it's feasible to ask other people to do it for them.
You're great Gary!
16:50 drivers on linux are baked in the kernel, word is over 70% of the linux kernel is a driver
So on linux it either works out of the box or it doesn't
Having used Linux since v1.2 Caldera in 1995 (28 years), the drivers situation is vastly superior than any time ever before. It supported my ZenBook S13 natively except for the speakers. Windows 10 struggled with wifi + nvme at the start.
Personally, I think fragmentisation is an advantage with Linux desktops. First, It is a mere consequence of software freedom, and second, it helps to keep things competitive and necessitates standards (like free desktop). Look at Chromium's near monopoly over the web and it's consequences.
Hmmm. Doesn't seem to be an advantage in the real world.
@@GaryExplains I agree that it isn't an advantage to getting more people to use Linux, as things can get confusing, but for me personally, and I imagine, most other Linux users, it's about freedom and choices, which fragmentisation does aid.
I use i3, and am free to choose among millions of unique system programs and configurations, and I love it.
@@GaryExplains Indeed. Windows and MacOS computers are by far and away the leading and dominating computer options when one walks into a computer shop. Nothing has changed in the past 20 years.
Happy with Linux - we are not going back to the delays, problems, costs, agenda and politics of microsoft. Windows 11 and it's lack of processor support on our machines was however, the main reason for the switch.
I had a Windows phone, I couldn't even get a Domino's Pizza app for the phone
Wow Great stuff Garry . very nice video
After buying a badly designed Win Vista Dell desktop in 2008 (a 160GB HDD with 40MB/s throughput) I dual booted Windows Vista and Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. After retirement in 1-1-11 I switched completely to Ubuntu and now I run Ubuntu 21.10 on OpenZFS 2.0. In 2008 I had small WiFi driver problems, but afterwards I never had driver problems anymore. I still use Windows XP for playing the wma copies of my LPs and CDs. They also play on Linux, but for some reason I prefer WMP 11 with WoW and TrueBass effects.
I'm a collector of Virtual Machines, so I have all Windows versions from 1986 Windows 1.04 to 2021 Windows 11 and I have all Ubuntu LTS versions plus the first Ubuntu 4.10 version; my first Ubuntu 5.04 version and the newest Ubuntu 22.04 Dev. Ed. I have many more Linux distros, but I keep mainly the latest versions of Garuda Linux, Fedora 33 & 35; OpenSuse 12 &15; Manjaro; Deepin; Linspire; Zorin; Linux Mint; MX 21; Peppermint 7, 9, 10 & 11 and FreeBSD 13.0.
I moved my Apps to VMs and the Host OS is a minimal install of Ubuntu 21.10, next month I will move to 22.04 LTS. My most frequently used VMs are Xubuntu 20.04 (runing always with all office stuff); Windows XP Home (Jukebox); Ubuntu 16.04 ESM (Encrypted for Banking and PayPal with snaps for the newest Firefox and LibreOffice); Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Try-Outs); Ubuntu Studio 20.04 LTS (Multimedia); Windows 11 Pro (Just in case). My $349 hardware is a Ryzen 3 2200G; 16GB DDR (3000MHz); 3 ZFS lz4 compressed datapools. Those datapools are:
- 512GB nvme-SSD storing ~15 VMs for 95% of all IOPs;
- 2 x 500GB HDD partitions (Raid-0) on 500GB & 1TB HDDs (~9 power-on years) with a 95GB sata-SSD partition as cache (L2ARC/ZIL), 2 datasets; one with ~20 VMs still receiving updates and one with my data (music; photos; family videos etc). That last dataset is stored with copies=2, creating a kind of Mirror/Raid-1 subset in that datapool.
- 500GB HDD partition at the end of the 1TB HDD with a 33GB sata-SSD partition as cache (L2ARC/ZIL) for all my archives and for ~30 VMs without updates.
I have 2 backups of everything, one on my 2011 laptop (2TB; new HDD) and one on my 2003 Pentium 4 Backup Server (1.21TB on 2 x IDE 3.5" and 2 x SATA-1 2.5"; with 2 to 4 power-on years). Both PCs are used for 1 to 2 hours/week.
impressive collection!
I use Windows and Linux 50/50, and I couldn't be happier. I'm a programmer in the gaming industry, I work in Unity and Unreal, I also code and deploy custom linux-based servers. IMO it's pointless to argue which of the OS'es is best, as both are here to stay. If I'm coding a server or microservice, I use Linux exclusively, no one hosts on Windows. If I'm working on game code, I'm on Windows, exclusively, no one cares about desktop Linux.
My i7-8650U NUC runs Win10.
My Qualcomm 7c ECS QC710 runs Win11.
My Pentium Silver N600 MSI Cubi N runs Zorin 16 Core.
Looking forward to the Raspberry Pi 5. Will probably run Twister OS (or Android).
Gave my Chromebook to my daughter for her school work (she loves it, I didn't).
As someone who had a Vista computer as a teen, I got to watch as Vista did hit its stride after it stumbled off the starting line, but it really seemed like MS moved swiftly along to 7 just as that finally started to show.
Hated Vista. Enjoyed XP.
Great Video, please do the "There is More!!!"
There's really only one drawback of Linux: laptops with Linux preinstalled aren't available in large retail stores. Soon after that happens (if it does), just watch how desktop Linux leaves Windows and Macs behind in the dust!
And which version of Linux should these laptops use? Should each laptop maker (Dell, HP, Lenovo etc) all use the same one or should they use different ones?
@@GaryExplains that is the biggest issue. Hopefully one day Canonical or IBM manages to make deals with all of the major PC brands like Microsoft did back in the day.
Interesting video Gary! Thanks for sharing it with us!💖👍😎JP
A decent comparison of windows, linux, macos, android and iOS please. Thank you Gary.
Great video! A very comprehensive comparison between the beauty and the beast - which is which is up to the user! Linux for those of us who want more involvement with the computing experience ,Windows for all the others. There is much to be gained thru familiarity and consistency. IMO most people don't really like change it takes them out of their comfort zone, hence, Windows maintains that experience.....Linux not so much.
I have a core i3 in my laptop and I run Windows 11 just fine. There's a registry entry you have to make too enable your system to upgrade to Windows 11 on an unsupported processor but it's an official Microsoft workaround you can get instructions for how to do it from Microsoft themselves so it can be run it just makes no sense that if they were going to release a workaround for it why they didn't just make it where it could run on those processors without having to go through the hassle
Windows users: Oh no! I haven't restarted in two days!
Mac users: Oh no! I haven't restarted in two weeks!
Linux users: My last restart? Uhh.... 2 years ago I think?
TempleOS users: Restart? Blasphemy! God's temple is eternal!
interested in performance, very much so - kind of a shame that wasn't touched as part of this video 😔
It's a complex question - In general, Linux is more lightweight than Windows and therefore will run faster in most situations. If you've got older hardware constrained by memory, then Linux will almost certainly be faster overall. But, when it comes to hardware accelerated applications, Windows can be better optimised. E.g. Games. That being said, it isn't always the case as even playing games through Proton, sometimes the games run faster in Linux.
I tend to have a Linux distro running on most of my computers almost by accident. I started with a duel boot, then a separate drive for gaming and music software. Eventually I was buying hardware that would be supported before I could get to work, and building PCs with AMD graphics cards. slippery slope.
I always have a windows drive in my main computers (music one and gaming one). Rarely use them ... but they are there just in case I need to get something done, with a random bit of hardware a 'friend' brings over or there is a bit of software that has no equivalent.
I miss my windows phone
It isn't that common but there are cases in which there are no drivers for windows. Well, or more common when the software used to work on Windows but it doesn't anymore or it's just a PITA to make it run again. I had a case in which I wasted a night compiling old software and it still was stuff missing.. then I just popped in a stick with Manjaro and installed it on a partition on the computer of a family member, installed a cli tool that interacts with the the device from one of the standard repos and just did the stuff I wanted to do within five minutes on GNU/Linux...
Being a 78-year-old, non-techie, guy I will stick with Windows even though I hate the monopoly Microsoft has. I tried Linux in Virtual Box using zorin OS core. I liked it and say that it was very much like Windows. Not only that, but I never even had to go into the terminal. But, when I tried putting it on my laptop using Ventoy I ran into a problem. Ventoy erased my Windows OK, but the Linux would not load to my hard drive, so I had to use it off the USB stick until I put Win 10 back on. Something about the partitions which is above my pay grade. Linux is great, but Windows just works for us non-geeks.
Seems like some major RedHat mile markers are missing from the history. In particular, when RedHat went public in 1999.
I have a whole separate video on the history of Linux, this video contained only a brief overview.
Linux might run on just about anything but that doesn't mean all your hardware will work.
Yes..true but it doesn't mean it won't either. This is 2022..not 2002
@@motoryzen I'm basing it off of my experience which is fairly recent.
The main thing I didn't like about Windows that doesn't happen on Linux at all:
IN WINDOWS: Copying or Extracting large files between hard drives through the Windows Explorer stops all possibility of multitasking until the task is complete.
IN LINUX: it has a much better task scheduler, you can copy or extract files between hard drives and still multitask in the background with barely any performance loss.
I don't think that is true at all. In fact this week I copied over 10GB of data from my Windows machine to a backup device, using Windows Explorer, and I carried on working on my PC the whole time, without any problems or interruptions. The last time I saw a problem like you describe was Windows 95.
Before Windows 95, operating systems relied on cooperative multitasking, where programs had to voluntarily share resources like the CPU or system bus. However, with the introduction of Windows 95, preemptive multitasking became the norm.
In the last two decades, Windows Explorer has allowed running a second copy, enabling users to perform other hard drive-related tasks simultaneously. Of course, smooth multitasking depends on having sufficient overall system resources.
I can copy a 95GB or larger single file to an external hard drive while searching for something on the web while another monitor has Cyberpunk 2077 running.
You really shouldn't open your mouth to put your foot in it.
Yes let's talk about the information is prying from your PC. Windows for ARM - How many of the LIbs are available for ARM64? Is it probably easier to develop ARM64 software on Linux than Windows? Would it make sense with vehicles like wasm to replace the desktop with a browser?
I have several videos covering quite a lot of that. Start with my video about the Qualcomm Dev Kit for Windows.
@@GaryExplains Thank you for that hint. I will look further into it.
Gary one of your better overview videos. 👍
16:10
- there are "only" 278 linux distros
- linux desktops comply with an underlying standard
Well only if they install both the KDE, Qt, and GNOME libraries.
@@GaryExplains not perse, both the kde desktop, gnome desktop and many other desktop comply to a standard called the "XDG standards" this is irrespective of the gui toolkit. common tools like xdg-open will open a file in the appropiate program for example. the entire directory structure of "desktop" linux is defined by same standard as well. otherwise you wouldn't be able to install the libraries accross different linux "distros"
the differences between kde and gnome are more surface level. with package formats like flatpaks and snaps those differences becomes superficial at best
also you don't have to use gnome or kde libraries at all, see elementaryos :P
Ok, I'll take the bait. Firstly Linux is officially GNU/Linux with the G in GNU emphasided. G-NU. In a similar way it is G-NOME as the Desktop Environment.
One area I don't think you mention where Windows beats Linux hands down is on spying and telemetry. Even deselecting all of the options and making various registry tweaks doesn't stop Microsoft phoning home.
Another one is browser selection, for example I set Brave as my default browser in GNOME and every link, I click opens in Brave. On Windows I set Brave as the default and if I click a link from an Office doc, Microsoft says 'let me open that for you in Edge.... it's more safe for you etc.'
Finally your assertion that Linux is unfamiliar means you haven't used those distributions that try to ape mac os, Windows 7 or even Windows XP. My sister who has just bought a new machine can't make sense of Windows 11, having come from Windows 7.
LOL, Linux is not officially GNU/Linux. That is nonsense. In fact Linus has specifically said it isn't. Try this video: th-cam.com/video/RNeKYjWx-s4/w-d-xo.html
"I use Linux as my operating system," I state proudly to the unkempt, bearded man. He swivels around in his desk chair with a devilish gleam in his eyes, ready to mansplain with extreme precision. "Actually", he says with a grin, "Linux is just the kernel. You use GNU+Linux!' I don't miss a beat and reply with a smirk, "I use Alpine, a distro that doesn't include the GNU coreutils, or any other GNU code. It's Linux, but it's not GNU+Linux."
The smile quickly drops from the man's face. His body begins convulsing and he foams at the mouth and drops to the floor with a sickly thud. As he writhes around he screams "I-IT WAS COMPILED WITH GCC! THAT MEANS IT'S STILL GNU!" Coolly, I reply "If windows was compiled with gcc, would that make it GNU?" I interrupt his response with "-and work is being made on the kernel to make it more compiler-agnostic. Even you were correct, you wont be for long."
With a sickly wheeze, the last of the man's life is ejected from his body. He lies on the floor, cold and limp. I've womansplained him to death.
@@siddiki9778 the true classic
@@siddiki9778 class
@@GaryExplains Of course you are correct Gary. I'm afraid a man with a beard and twinkly eyes came in and led me astray. I have vowed to stop listening to people with beards.... present company excepted of course.
I use linux since 2003, Redhat 7.2 and Mandrake 6.xx. Then move to Ubuntu 8 in 2009, but I use windows for software development using .net. Miss linux since then but my family wont move from windows so.
Linux is just a kernel. ChromeOS and Android are using Linux. The operating system you refer to as Linux is actually GNU.
Commercial is everything for commercial purposes. The question if the software grants its user the four freedoms which define free software is independent whether it's commercial or not. It's just a matter of the license which is offered and agreed upon.
LOL, no: th-cam.com/video/RNeKYjWx-s4/w-d-xo.html
R. Stallman doesn't get to decide whether it is called GNU or not.
If basically every user and company refers to GNU/Linux as just Linux, then it is just called Linux.
Nay, Android just use a portion of Linux, not its entirety. Prof Gary actually had make a video about it
Purely for fun, for my first PC build, I didn't want to pay for Windows or use an unregistered version so I tried out Linux. Never gone back.
as a linux gamer i can tell you that windows programs have little to no issue running on the 4 linux distros i checked, maybe one or 2 got glitched but that can be fixed by trying other emulator since raw wine is not the only one, meaning that saying gaming is worse on linux is not a right statement just because some games aren't native, they run as well and most times even better on linux than on windows even if its not native
actually unix was founded at 1971 way before windows became a thing it was built on linux then other distros started popping around at later stage your research was kinda accurate but unix was created in 1971 as a source for other distros
Sounds like you might like my video "Unix vs Linux". But to say "it was built on Linux" is just plainly wrong, maybe a typo?
Pff there's plenty of things where the windows driver is hot garbage or literally incompatible with modern windows, while the thing works just fine in Linux - LTT even mentioned a printer driver explicitly in their series on Linux!
Personally I've got far more experience than I like with Windows requiring a magic text file to tell it to use _the driver provided with the operating system_ with a device that says it's that type of device - why??
I love Linux. :)
20:40 this list can be shortened to "unfamiliarity, niche drivers and games" xd
Windows all the way. No bullshit just works out of the boxs and gaming works.
Every few months, I give Linux a chance in dual-boot config with Windows. Tried at least 10 different versions of Linux, being a different distro or different DE of the same distro. Diving deeper into OS mechanics is not a problem for me when I want it. From my experience, I can say that I always felt that I'm dealing with a product in alpha/beta status. Comparing to Windows, every single distro had problems right out of the box. Is it screen tearing, hardware monitoring apps missing great deal of sensors readouts, stubborn CPU governor plan resetting on reboot, monitor not going to suspend mode, or just changing preferences via provided and integrated graphical tools resulting with no response or very strange unpredicted behavior.
My latest Linux adventure was with the latest Ubuntu Budgie and Fedora 36. Ubuntu software manager stuck on refreshing on its first run and Fedora refused to boot after a "wrong" choice of updates I choose. Yes I choose kernel update (among others) but I couldn't boot even by choosing the former kernel on boot screen.
From the Windows perspective, this is not a final product. It is beta.
I've run Win7 for several years then upgraded to Win10. It was year after before I decided fresh installation of a new version, not because problems but a principle that format-install is the best way to go for major hops.
Having said that, I love the open source idea and I wholeheartedly support it. That's the reason I like to give a chance to Linux from time to time. But Linux is NOT a reliable system. Not because of its own logic but because it barely copes with Windows/Mac reality.
Linux isnt. meant to be windows or Mac.
You're approaching the Linux the wrong way...that why it hasn't worked out for you yet
Stop expecting Linux to be windows or Mac.
Find alternatives for the software you use of they aren't cross platform or get them to work via wine and/or Lutris and steam, heroic Launcher, etc.
The screen tearing problem could be many things but on general AMD GPUs never have that problem OOTB
With Nvidia there are a few things to add or do to ensure it doesnt happen and I forgot off hand what those are in the Nvidia x server settings app.
@@motoryzen
1. Desktop Linux is trying to be user friendly for a long time by mimicing Windows.
Linux evangelists somehow have prolbems with that. Like...WinXP support running out, switch to Linux. Win7 support runs out, install Linux. 30 years of Linux development and people who still think that the fault is on users rather than the system.
Honestly, I can't imagine a 30 years OS evolution and still having problems with power management, GPU drivers to name a few. There are actualy many more problems with most of linux distros.
Do you really think that everyone is stupid to not notice that the system has serious flaws? Do you really think that Windows users can't tell that the thing doesn't work as it should?
@@ImplosiveCatt it isn't about mimicking Winturd.. reality check...before crapple and microshit produced their own GUI versions of their o.ss...xerox already beat them to the punch.
And I couldn't care any less even if that is the case depending on the Distro or d.e.
What matters is what it works and to a reasonable extent the distro is a good enough smooth enough gentle enough transition from the winturd world to the Linux world in that THAT is one less reason why the Linux noob will want to go back to windows.
Over 30 years of winturd os creation, maintains and development and microshit still thinks the only reason windows users become frustrated with using winturd is that is their ( the end user) own fault.
Ah...last I checked...a f ucking update in the Linux world (cough October update within 4 years ago or less cough) DIDN'T cause data loss when an end user connected an external storage drive and linked a " Library" folder to it.
Last I checked..Linux users ARENT the ones being digitally infected on a daily or weekly basis..( and I've checked.on this literally every single weekly for over 11 years that I've been using Linux Mint Cinnamon btw and it STILL hasn't changed)
Why? Is it because the Linux world has far fewer digital infects being created and sent out? Not just that..but more.importantly HOW the Linux eggheads have dealt with this vulnerabilities...lightning fast...with some damn sense and resolve..EVERY...SINGLE...ONE of them
Meanwhile microshit as usually has their dollar sign infected head so far up their bosses and share holders a$$es as well as trying to REMOVE more control away from their end.users...you must chop off the head to find them instead of focusing on ACTUALLY correctly fixing problems.
Yeah good luck arguing against any of that.
What's next? Are ya gonna tell me there are more than two genders for physically living human beings too?
Lol...it Wouldn't surprise me
@@ImplosiveCatt the problem. With many windows users who consider trying any Linux distro can be many fold.
A. Just jumping in to a distro without even READING a single damn thing about it. Including asking others on TH-cam and many other sites .
B. Expecting Linux to BE windows.
Linux is NOT Windows..and thank God for that.
3. Thinking that Linux forum site members OWE Linux noobs coming from Windows anything, and even more applicably Not taking a measly minute to read a bit of the forum rules.
Reality check..we DONT expect incoming windows to Linux noobs to know a bunch of terminal commands..but it's not like to take a f ucking software dev to know how to o clock on stuff, highlight, copy, come back to the site..and paste info that the experienced Linux user needs to narrow down the problem in order to HELP the Linux noob resolve it.
And even some want to argue that they won't do it because they're afraid inxi -Fxxxmprz will show others very personal info about their PCs, which couldn't be further from the truth, and then want to lash out whining with ," see this is why Linux sucks and will always be behind" calling us elitist snobs when it's THEM..the damn complacent few from Windows, are the idiots acting like bratty 5 years olds and then WONDER why some of us Linux veterans tell them to go f uck themselves in the @$$hokes with aids infect d#$ks? Duh.
Gpu driver problems? Sure..with Nvidia sometimes..not as bad as.ir used to be,. It still..build with or buy and.gpus and you never need to worry about that...the correct drivers are built right into the damn kernel
It's not rocket science..it's called critical thinking and not generalizing everything. Try it
@@motoryzen
Look, I'm Win daily user and a couple of couple and couple of months Linux user.
I know what I'm talking about and you need professional help. Simple as that.
Hey Gary, I am eagerly waiting for speed test g of new Qualcomm chip.
Whatever. I use whatever is available. SBCs running various Linux distris, SBCs running WIN ARM, Chromebooks, Linux notebooks, Windows Notebooks, Macbooks, WIN desktops, Hackintoshes, Linux desktops, and a Dual Xeon Hackintosh Pro with 96 GB as my dedicated A/V machine. They are tools and I use the best tool for the job.
9:95 not true, you need a zen+ CPU which is the 2000 series. The zen2 series are the 3000 CPUs.
Windows Phone was actually good. I still have a Lumia 830. It’s UI is still fresh for 2022.
I always find Linux easier for programming lol.
Like Windows and MacOS, Linux proves once again that it takes the talent and money Big Corporations offer to bring to success to failure, it is because of Big Corps that Linux lives.
Can you do a video on Linux vs FreeBSD pls?
I have often thought about that, and I might, but I don't think it will be that popular. I cover some of the aspects in my Unix vs Linux video.
@@GaryExplains I think it would be cool though. :)
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Gaming on Steam has become pretty reliable on Linux. Everything I own works. Nvidia drivers have also come a very long way.
Linux If You Love Your Computer and Tech
Isn't Mir now a compositor for Wayland?
I use all three…. I do use Linux a lot. It does a great job.