Did you really feel the need to explain the Trap ending before it's even left the theaters? Even just seeing this title was a spoiler to me. It tells med that the ending might need some explaining. That's a spoiler and I fucking hate spoilers. Don't do this.
@@doddiemcclure2115Penny dreadful is an amazing series. So incredible and sadly underrated. He played an amazing character, and since you brought it up,, I’m gonna rewatch the series because it was that good. - if your a fan that enjoys supernatural stuff set back in time, definitely check out Penny Dreadful. The entire cast is stellar, and storyline is great. They didn’t go over the top with the special effects- it was an all around great series 💀❤
During the start I was the same, I thought he had a reason for what he did and he had to escape, then like half way through the movie i realised what was going on
He’s set up as the antagonist. It’s HIS story so even though we know he’s a bad guy we don’t want him caught…at first. Like Tony Soprano or Walter White, their villains but want them to succeed. It’s actually a deft piece of writing where MNS turns the audience against him in the dressing room scene.
I do think the twist in The Village absolutely was a true shock. Obviously sending the daughter who is blind to retrieve the medicine and not giving away the secret to her that it’s modern time, but finding out William Hurt paid for planes not to fly over and all the people they gave up there life outside due to a tragedy to start over living in a time with no outside world contact or modern technology.
The first time I watched it I missed the first few minutes. In particular I missed the text explanation of the set up. Because of this I spent the entire movie assuming they were in modern times. When the twist hit I was confused because the twist was something I already thought was true.
@@lisaw6219 this is all I could find and it's been a while since I've seen the Village. It is learned that Edward Walker, a former history professor, founded the village over two decades earlier. He recruited people he met at a grief counseling clinic to isolate themselves from societal violence. Edward's family fortune funds the wildlife reserve, built the village inside it, and even paid the government to make it a no-fly zone.
It would’ve been cool if the daughter was the killer and he was trying to protect her the whole time & connecting to the Unbreakable Split Glass universe.
was thinking the family was in the butcher biz and the trap was getting that star to their house... but interesting concept that left us wanting .... really thought the song in the house was going to mean something that tied lady raven to the butcher showing us why she was so invested in catching him.... but some lost opportunities ... also thought the old lady might end up being his mother
This is a storyline that I haven't seen before and I'll be honest, I appreciate M.Nights film making because its he creates different worlds within our world. I thought it was hilarious when he was getting arrested and told the kids "not to forget their science project that's due on Monday" lmao!
This movie had so many turns because at that point I thought he was going to commit suicide by the car’s exhaust. Then the movie…just kept going. It was good though.
Everyone is trying to figure out the twist and I figured it out. The twist is you were looking for a traditional psychopath movie full of blood, gore and a major death scene and didn’t get that. You got the thrills of the psychopath without the killing, and even seen a human side of a serial killer. You got more of a father role than a serial killer - but you were expecting Kill counts in this film. That’s the twist the first time they actually made a thriller more family friendly than scary! Gotcha! Great job M.Night!!
I thought I was going to a movie but it was mostly a concert 😂 It was very evident that Daddy was so obsessed with the footage of nepobaby that he lost sight of his film imho.
@@MsBhaven1You are a douche. It probably saved him a ton of money on rights, as well as a way to keep the cost down with regard to the acting. I know it must be hard for your pea brain to imagine, but sometimes people love their progeny and they also want them to succeed. I'm not a breeder and I still want my friends to succeed.
@@MsBhaven1you have the reductionist perspective of a simpleton. It probably saved him a ton of money on rights, as well as a way to keep the cost down with regard to the acting. I know it must be hard for a tiny brain to imagine, but sometimes people love their progeny and they also want them to succeed. I'm not a breeder and I still want my friends to succeed.
I'm obsessed with true crime and was impressed with how well Hartnett and the movie portrayed serial killers. He reminded me a lot of BTK , a father with a desire to kill while balancing his family
Maybe the Police knew telling the concert staff about their sting operation was a stupid idea, and that's why they did exactly that, in hopes that someone tells Cooper, so he either slips up and makes a mistake while trying to escape, or he was meant to escape because the actual trap was set back at his house.
I like them both. In Old the test subjects we're so unsympathetic I found myself rooting for the clinical trial. Typical Hollywood fake piousness, as if basically this same experiment is not played out both consciously and unconsciously with millions of people, over time, and basically the method in the movie minus the fantasy aging is literally and actually done by pharmaceutical companies in their clinical trials.
Missing out on having an experience than just watching a summary. In fact this video was suppose to just explain the ending and things we “missed” to the people that have watched it already but it’s a summary with spoilers. He doesn’t even give a warning to the people that haven’t watched it. Anyways the movie was great. There’s very important details that the movie gives that this dumb video failed to explain or notice. The big surprise is that there is no twist but it’s still great.
My favourite thing about movies like this is that it shows how someone like this exists in everyday life, they're not this huge unimaginable monstrous Villian. He's just a normal guy who loves his family but he's really not. Anyone not paying attention would never suspect anything but at soon as you take a closer look, like the profiler lady, you find how predictable they actually are. But he counts on the fact that nobody's really paying attention.
This guy can really bend reality to his will. Even in the end scene when he laughs about the fact that he freed himself, I took it to mean he's thinking to himself "this shit is too easy"
Trap!? Lol escaped from the concert, house they surrounded, limo surrounded by people, and finally the end scene..." this shit is too easy" lol you are right!
@@88cloudsin1agreed, too many times fell trapped by good trailers, went to watch it but went back feeling disappointed(plus not having the budget for it as well 😅)
No one has said anything about how they are in PA and when they leave the concert, its still daylight.....was the concert at like 2pm? that was so odd!
I would have turned it off after she gets his phone (keeping the "victim" in the basement alive being the sole purpose for her being at his house in the first place) and not immediately dialing 911 barricading herself in the bathroom (along with the exact method/button he was going to use to kill the victim with) until the police arrive. Even if she didn't know the address, she could just switch the location setting in his phone to "on" and Google map his address. Frikin lame..
Yeah he didn't explain that very well. She completely caught him off guard when she got his phone and he was trying real hard to not make a scene in front of his family because they didn't know his alter ego
Exactly!! I also didn’t understand why there was not AT LEAST ONE security personnel with her at all times?! She’s supposed to be a Rihanna or Ariana Grande and her chauffeur is the only person in charge of her security?! Like come on Shyamalan…
The twist should have been that the daughter gave him a hair pin or something to escape when they hugged. Implying she was in on the killings…. Miss Butcher.
Okay the plot should have been that yes he was the butcher but because he was a vampire killer and Lady Raven’s concert was also the ‘Trap’ for all these humans! The Dr profiler was very spooky and Lady Raven’s friend literally looked like a vampire… The many people being drowsy (being drained of blood) the visions Cooper got of other people, the inviting Raven into THEIR HOME linked so well, it would have been an amazing twist. A character literally refers to Lady Raven and her ‘cult’! Even if it didn’t go down that route, the movie had so much potential, especially from the first half and it just fell so flat imo.
Johs's performance alone is worth watching this movie. He's a CRIMINALLY underrated actor and does the best with what he's been given. That being said.... M dropped the ball again. I will look past that nobody does a concert in the middle of the day and that there's usually not that much walking around during a concert. And the "music" is like lying in front of a dentist. You can FEEL that someone is working your jaw with tools, and it's uncomfortable, but you don't feel any pain because you're sedated locally. Cooper is ultimately a villain who's only that smart because everyone around him is terribly stupid. I also think that the bike spoke was given to him by his daughter when she hugs him at the end. I hate the ending because it's not earned. There's no reason for Cooper to get away.
I think M.Night got us all thinking about the twist, we were sitting there trying to work out what the twist is in the end. Then the movie kept progressing and he made us continue to work out what the twist was. The twist, is that there was no twist. Even to the end, he made us question if the family or the daughter or the singer was somehow involved. The father laughing, is M Night laughing at us. He trapped us! I enjoyed the movie
Wishful thinking, but No & No, he did not trap us. He leaves doors (possibilities) open, but that isn't genius - it's just fabricating suspense, while conveniently making his daughter the benevolent heroine of the movie. That, and despite the good acting by Josh Hartnett in playing the main character, we don't see the evidence / background of the terrible things that he has done (unlike the much better tv series in Dexter - which this film rips off in several ways), so it makes him unconvincing that he is what he is throughout the screenplay, rather than just a desperate man who is being cunning while trying to avoid the overwhelming ridiculous number of authorities who are present. So please don't be fooled by this film-maker. His movies are always titled in the same terse way, but they fail to expand on any character development, while the story fails to deliver on multiple levels, aside from satisfying a cheap thrill & to hope for a twist 🍿
And you're not wrong in feeling that, because this movie fails to deliver what it sets out to, and instead decides to participate in an exercise in trying to top itself multiple times as it edges closer towards its conclusion. It's little more than a cheap thrill, & which is a shame as the premise for it is fun & exciting, and I enjoyed watching the trailers for it..
This was clearly about his daughter… And also family dynamics. I can’t piece it all together yet. But the dialogue between Cooper and his wife (or ex wife?) was very intentional.
People are really filling in the blanks and doing the work for M. Night bc it wasn’t a good movie. Too much suspension of belief and I don’t think I should be expected to simply accept all bends in logic. At that point it’s like saying “well it’s a good movie if you ignore everything that makes it bad”.
the biggest suspension of disbelief that i had with this movie was that a pop star would be some how "connected to the people" yeah.. that's a fantasy world i find too hard to believe given the fact that all our "stars" are sociopathic monsters.
I really wanted to like this movie, and it has some tense moments and Josh Hartnett plays the role really well, but there were just too many "Are you freaking kidding me?" moments.
Hahahaha serial killer, no hitman, no captain Jack sparrow. The trap!? He was able to escape in all situations, last scene when he freed himself laughing "like it's too easy"
Who would I want to visit my house? On a good day? Pedro Pascal. He seems really cool and laid back. On a bad day to cheer me up? Lewis Capaldi, the singer, he's super funny and has a great voice!
I really enjoy the way you discuss films by both explaining the plot aswell as adding your personality and insightful thoughts! So glad you started a film channel as well as your games one!
@@MadMorphMovieClub Nice job once again, I overall enjoyed this movie despite the inconsistencies and leaps one has to make in logic over and over again. One thing that bugs me more than anything and maybe you noticed is, what exactly did the police have on the perp that would tie him to the crime?, something they could check at this very concert and know FOR SURE it was him in a body search or an interview.. Even the tattoo on his wrist which he overheard on the police radio was just someone they would like to question, it wasnt a definite tie to the suspect or his crimes... once he heard the police chatter you would think he would have felt pretty safe to just walk out of there with his daugther after the show...after all what exactly did they have to prove it was him., they were just wanting to ask a bunch of random suspects... it would seem he should not have been concerned about leaving the arena at all, but more of the fact that they were eventually narrowing in on him as they had him as one of 3000 men on video. So he should be more concerned about the coming weeks or months in escaping notice than the here and now of getting out of the arena. What am I missing here?
A good final plot twist would be that at the end it was the daughter/mom the real serial killer and the dad was just her asistant, that or that there is not one serial killer but a club/cult and the dad is just one of them.
Or the black guy telling him, about the trap, is the serial killer, and that Josh zh character becomes the Patsy, set up, to take the fall, but then the killer blk employee pays a visit to his daughter after Josh goes to prison and puts her in the basement like the oriental dude, and the mother is shown hanging dead on a hook at the blk employees workplace eg in broom closet, leaving questions, as to how, then zooms in on a note, finding out Josh H character was having affair with the blk guys wife and then a flashback to when he found out seeing Josh arrive at his home to sleep with his wife, then he plots revenge by Trapping him at the concert, by telling him abt the Butcher. This way audience is manipulated misled into who is the butcher and why the real butcher, the blk guy killed, he hates cheaters, and he hates the cheating wife and last shot shows the dead hand of his own wife, who also cheated on him in a lesbian RShip with josh H wife... How's that for a MNS plot ending? Bcoz this movie was shite n lame had potential.😢
Or the black guy telling him, about the trap, is the serial killer, and that Josh zh character becomes the Patsy, set up, to take the fall, but then the killer blk employee pays a visit to his daughter after Josh goes to prison and puts her in the basement like the oriental dude, and the mother is shown hanging dead on a hook at the blk employees workplace eg in broom closet, leaving questions, as to how, then zooms in on a note, finding out Josh H character was having affair with the blk guys wife and then a flashback to when he found out seeing Josh arrive at his home to sleep with his wife, then he plots revenge by Trapping him at the concert, by telling him abt the Butcher. This way audience is manipulated misled into who is the butcher and why the real butcher, the blk guy killed, he hates cheaters, and he hates the cheating wife and last shot shows the dead hand of his own wife, who also cheated on him in a lesbian RShip with josh H wife... How's that for a MNS plot ending? Bcoz this movie was shite n lame had potential.
I really didn’t like that he pretty much just ratted himself out to Lady Raven,Like why? He said they caught him but they really didn’t he just snitched on himself. Like if he had walked past those cops how would they know he was the killer? And he had his daughter as extra cover? Eh.
Its terrifying how impressive and adaptable cooper was in this movie the way he is able to manipulate the situation to his benefit over and over again even at the very end
I liked it. M Night sucked me in. I liked Josh Hartnett. I think we will get a sequel and i will watch it. Lady raven Im good without seeing again. Now the Butcher on the run is kinda fun. Im intrigued. Love a hot serial killer lol😂
Critical HIT!!! Hey thanks for clearing up the twists and turns. I was practically stumped throughout the whole picture. I'm sure gonna be shakin in my sheets thinking about the butcher coming to get me. And make me into bits
PFFFFT! LOL!!! @ 9:17 My face when I saw this guy take 10 thousand volts and still effortlessly body slam a tactical officer and gouge out his eyes. Total BEAST!
There was a scene when the guy that was kidnapped by The Butcher and he was pulled into a van. It happened too fast and he was pulled into the van with force. It happened in a split second, no way could a normal human pull a full grown man into a van like that. I think there is a twin brother or a partner and The Butcher is more that one person. I also think the lady profiler is The Butchers mom.
The REALLY sad part is the trailers basically gave the movie away. There's really no reason to see it. The fact that they had the venue employee telling him everything in the trailer ruined the thought of this movie for me. I'll get it when it's in the bargin bin at Wal-Mart.
Also why did the concert end and it was still daytime outside?? Concerts, especially big concerts from big pop stars, generally end at like 10-11pm??? I’m not convinced M Night has ever been to a concert in his life
excuse me, brah! How can you fail to mention Josh Hartnett's performance as Ethan Chandler in the Showtime series Penny Dreadful??? The senior FBI profiler lady, is Oscar winner Hayley Mills... Good to see her in film again!! Sometimes, when the acting is good... in this case it was very good... I can just not be concerned with some of the writing and just enjoy the movie..... I loved it! and I wonder if it is just a coincidence that the singer at the concert is Lady Raven?? What was the name of the institute that David Dunn, The Horde and Mr Glass were in oh yeah, Raven Hill Memorial.. I think, more to come
Wow he got the handcuffs off at the end, when they arrive at central booking I am sure he will be able to fight off 100 swat guys and regular cops too lmao 🤣
I'm personally always suspending my disbelief when it comes to Shyamalan movies, and this one is no exception. I had a pretty fun time and I really enjoyed the songs and the little twists and turns. I especially appreciated the fact that Shyamalan didn't choose to make a twist about Cooper being innocent, because that's exactly what I was expecting when I watched the trailer. I'd say the only Shyamalan movie I hadn't been able to enjoy was Old, because I couldn't get myself to suspend my disbelief through the whole movie. Just the kid who goes everywhere asking people their age and their job, it was enough to make me laugh out loud because of how unsubtle this narrative technique was. Like, of course, it was going to come into play later.
Sorry, no offense, but wrong. This now part of what I call: _The East Rail Saga._ Here is what I picked up on:: • Rachel asks Dr. Grant what one might hear at a lecture of hers, and DG says something significant: _"Parent (he only has one) might have sensed this at the beginning, but no one else after could" As she says no one after, the picture of Cooper and his firefighter colleagues has the one black dude away from them, which seems intentional on his part. He doesn't look to be smiling either._ • Lady Raven/Dr. Grant in the SUV says: _"And I know how else to deal with you". Lady Raven is being controlled by Dr. Grant._ • Dr. Grant is never on the scene at any point during the movie: _Dr. Grant picks up the cleaver and enters the kitchen. (I knew there was something bugging me the first time) She turns off the tea kettle and if you try to look at her hands, they're blurred enough, and when she turns and the focus is racked back to Rachel, we don't see Dr. Grant's hands and "Dr. Grant" says, "We'll get your kids back to you soon" THAT IS NOT DR. GRANT'S VOICE!!_ _I think we as the audience can see her, but EVERYONE ELSE, is seeing whoever the agent is that's there, and was there the whole time._ • GLASS Film Flashback: *Joseph Dunn:* (clairvoyance data) "We're gonna salt bae your ass. It's definitely going in the book." *David Dunn:* "What is that anyway??" *Joseph:* "It's an internet guy...he's a butcher who salts his meat in an elaborate way." (Cooper, OCD, Meticulous) *David:* (few lines later) "That's all he does is season meat??" • I know this one is going to sound crazy: _I think Cooper is the kid from Unbreakable, not Kevin. "I was always getting punished." OR...hear me out... Cooper is Kevin's brother!_ _Why?_ _Remember Glass hypothesized that if he was on one end of the spectrum there had to someone on the other end. For example: Glass has a superior mental, but inferior physical, while Overseer has superior physical._ • What we can see so far in respect to the power types: + Mental _[Glass] (internal) -Intellect -Strategy -Master Manipulation_ _[Dr. Grant] (external). -Constructs -Possession -Intellect_ + Physical _[Overseer] (external) -Strength -Invulnerability -Psychometry_ + Emotional _[The Horde/The Beast] (internal/external) -Strength -Resistance -Neurostimulation_ *Why is he not with Overseer?* _It's driven by emotional energy that developed a superhuman level of adrenaline production and disposal. He over stimulates nervous systems to paralyze with fear._ _[The Butcher] (internal/external) -Charisma -Neuroparalysis -Tactile Probability Manipulation_ *Why is HE not with Overseer?* _It's driven by emotional energy same as Kevin but Cooper disables nervous systems and nullifies their fight or flight. He can manipulate probability through touch, contact, and proximity. Like an aura that allows him a path where he can naturally position himself at the right place, and right time. (The woman who happens to be lightheaded at the steps, The wallet that jus happens to be in the apron Cooper took with the special card he needed, knowing where the sugar was) • Remember when Glass said this? _Do you know what the scariest thing is? To not know your place in this world, to not know why you're here. That's - that's just an awful feeling. I almost gave up hope. There were so many times I questioned myself...But I found you. So many sacrifices, just to find you._ _M. Night Shyamalan & Josh Hartnett TRAP interview:_ *Night:* "In fact, upon my research, evolutionarily, those people because in war or going to do stuff, they're very helpful. They were advantageous to a population" *Josh:* "I read a few books that you wouldn't have thought would be about sociopathy but clearly, were, like books of heroism and war and things like that. We tend to look at people that are archetypal heroes and think, like, Wow, they sacrifice anything to get their goals met. Well, that's not really good. You don't want to be around somebody who has no empathy." There's probably more, but I need to review all the movies again. Le t me know if you guys spotted anything else!
Lady Raven could have dialed 911 in the bathroom, and threw coopers phone in the toilet. Preventing him from being able to kill Spenser and bringing the cops straight to his door.
I really enjoyed this movie! And yes, there has to be a lot of suspension of disbelief. I think that the best moment for Cooper to have escaped is when the concert ended, and everyone was leaving. As long as he's able to get away with not showing the lamb tattoo on his wrist, he should have been good.
I DON'T MIND AT ALL M.Night did a privilege to picked his own daughter to played in his own movie. But I DO MIND when her screen times is too much, where the times can be used for showing more tricks from Butcher in how he killing people, how he lure the victims, how he lives a double live, how Josh Harnett acts switching character, how's Butcher past trauma. Shame, this movie has so much potential especially for a long comeback actor like Josh Harnett.
Idea for a twist. He is not actually a good serial killer. But his wife is. She has being covering for him over the years, cleaning and erasing evidence over the years, all out of love. However, the more and more he fucks up she gets tired of him and realizes that eventually he will get caught. So she sets all this up as a "test" to see if he can truly take care of himself and be worthy of her love. As the movie ends, he gets shot and killed. Years later, the daughter gets a video from her dad: "Hey sweety. I guess the cat is out of the bag now. I want you know that- I regret nothing. Nothing at all. I am- I am what many want to be. FREE. Free from guilt, from society's taboos and above all free from all responsibility. Well that's not true. You are my responsibility. You are everything to me. I was so happy when you were born. I was beyond proud of your grades. But above all... I was so, so happy when I realized you were like me. Yes I know what happened to all the catss in the neighborhood. Woodchipper. Smart. Lets not beat around the bush. If you see this I am dead and you are 20 right now. If this video got to you as I planned you will see a pdf map to my... Home away from home. Your mom thought I didn't know but I did. I had hoped she would be honest with me but- It just wasn't in the cards. No, NO! JUST LIKE MY MA! She can't feel proud of herself unless she KNOCKS ME DOWN THAT FUCKING CU-! Sorry, sorry. I shouldnt say that. Look at the end of the day, all I want you is to be proud of your mind. You are unique and above the worms who just occupy space and fucking waste air. Aside from my humble shack, tools and money. I left a surprise for your mother. Tell her if she doesn't enjoy it, its her recipe. I love you sweetheart, take care of your little brother. You never know what crazies are out there." "Oh one last thing, people who are as smart as we are often casted loners. We are not, somewhere in the house I left a business card of a good friend. He is trustworthy and will help see as he did me. Oh and when you call him, tell him to come over to raise a GLASS on my honor. Heh, he'll get it. Fuck I do hope I die today otherwise I'm gonna look stupid. I'm gonna grab some shut eye before the concert- Good night."
Wow! Thanks . . You saved me what-ever the Time was on this movie to be watched. I really do hope that ALL of his movies come together and make sense afterwards.
SPOILER: The next movie should be years later where see the Daughter getting married. Have the wedding set on an island somewhere which would also reintroduce Lady Raven making a guest performance. Lady Raven singing there would be the catalyst to show Josh Hartnets character that this is another trap , where every guest is actually the FBI and he needs to get off the island as quickly as possible but not before seeking revenge on his Wife, Lady Raven, and the Profiler lady. An island would give us the sense that the setting is as contained as a concert arena.
The movie is exceptionally well-crafted, though it might not appeal to everyone. Personally, I found it outstanding. To fully appreciate the excellence of the acting, some understanding of psychology is helpful.
I really thought there was no real twist to the film that wasn't given away in the trailer already, which sort of made it fresh. At most you could say that the entire film doesn't take place at the concert. But after seeing some reivews saying the film divebombs in the second half I was expecting some crazy twist that made the movie worse like him being the singer's real father (she mentions she has an estranged father who she forgives) or that the daughter was the real killer or something. I have no idea what made the second half so bad for these critics.
Thanks for recapping this movie and saving me time, this plot would have annoyed me too! I'm all for twists and turns but there has to be some logic to it.
The concert was EVERYTHING to the movie. Did you listen to the songs? Saleka is a phenomenal musician, singer, song-writer and ACTRESS. She stole the show. 10/10 MOVIE. spine-tingling. bone-tingling scary movie on the level of PSYCHO.
The "plot" (or if it isn't, it's just a saddening easter egg) is the Lion Statues, with a villain as main character. All of us old-schooled in cinema - talking about Mr. Shyamalan - remember Glass, Split and Unbreakable... the statue's... mommy issues references... Villains that we "Cheer for". Well well.... Can't take it out of my head, Mr. Shy is trying to get back to that universe, even is this particular movie was "meh". Just a binding history, maybe.
FACTS!!! We're searching for a serial killer but I'll totally bring you into this storage room to get a shirt. 30 Cops? No problem I've got a name badge Being held at gun point in the drivers seat...that's ok I'll just Batman into the crowd somehow Hey before I escape lets have pie with my wife.
Honestly to me, no matter how shitty the movie is, Shyamalan always has such interesting unique ideas that I enjoy the bad movies almost as much as the good ones. I enjoyed old and knock at the cabin. They could be so much better with more thought, but tbh I enjoyed this movie regardless
I think the twist is how we perceive "Trap" became the movie title changed at the end. We thought the trap is the concert, but no, after the scene changes from the concert to their home, the actual trap is what the wife set to find out if his husband if the butcher. All MS movies twist comes to the very end of the movie. And the conversation between husband and wife is the big twist. Not what I am expecting but that what makes it a little shocking.
90% of the biggest plotholes in scenes, all through the movie, can be explained by one thing : psychic superpowers, mind manipulation. (never featured in unbreakable universe...until now ?) Try it, watch it keeping that in mind...this dude can control other people's minds (to an extent)
I lost it when the stage opens up for the guest rapper and Cooper’s big escape plan is to say to his daughter “hey I wonder where that goes!” To which she says “dad you’re being weird.” Also M night’s daughter’s multiple performances, and the fact that she stops a song to do a comically long speech about how her “father wasn’t there for her growing up and she made her own happiness” etc while her real life father is making a movie solely so she could attempt to launch a singing career. Finally can’t believe I missed Kim is the wife! You didn’t realize the FBI profiler was Ms Bliss from Saved by The Bell/Good morning Miss Bliss though!!
i think lady raven making that whole speak about her dad (within the movie) is in correlation with the daughter hugging her dad at the end of the movie. the song that raven sings after that speech is called "release", which the daughter 'releases' her dad.
The spoke. Anyone who has attempted wheel repairs knows what a pain in the ass removing a spoke is. Since tension is key, it has a blunt stud ending that attaches to the axle and a threaded bolt end inside the rim that maintains the tension and shape of the wheel. You’d have to remove the tyre, inner tube and puncture strip before accessing the threaded bolt of the spoke, then feed the spoke out of the hole in the axle. Yes. I’m a nerd.
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Did you really feel the need to explain the Trap ending before it's even left the theaters? Even just seeing this title was a spoiler to me. It tells med that the ending might need some explaining. That's a spoiler and I fucking hate spoilers. Don't do this.
Cuckoo was really out there
One why is his daughter in movies is a big deal
@@Neboldon't click an ending explained video. You don't watch the ending of something and explain it not to be spoilt! Simple
I’m happy Josh Hartnett is allowed to show what a good actor he is.
His range is incredible!
watch Penny Dreadful
@@doddiemcclure2115 oh I did it was great. Eva Green was in that too.
@@doddiemcclure2115Penny dreadful is an amazing series. So incredible and sadly underrated. He played an amazing character, and since you brought it up,, I’m gonna rewatch the series because it was that good.
- if your a fan that enjoys supernatural stuff set back in time, definitely check out Penny Dreadful. The entire cast is stellar, and storyline is great. They didn’t go over the top with the special effects- it was an all around great series 💀❤
Just out of curiosity, am I the only one who was strangely rooting for the villain in this movie?
During the start I was the same, I thought he had a reason for what he did and he had to escape, then like half way through the movie i realised what was going on
I watched the film yesterday and I was rooting for him SOOO much during the entire film. I just loved him for some reason!!
same, I was rooting for him as well
I certainly was
He’s set up as the antagonist. It’s HIS story so even though we know he’s a bad guy we don’t want him caught…at first. Like Tony Soprano or Walter White, their villains but want them to succeed. It’s actually a deft piece of writing where MNS turns the audience against him in the dressing room scene.
The trap was listening to m night daughter sing for 2 hrs. That was the twist.
At least the music slapped 😂
had to edit for a corny overused joke lol
Was it like listening to yoko ono ?
It wasn't THAT bad. I hate the mainstream pop music of today so I wasn't a fan of the style of music but her voice is actually really nice
Or M himself playing her tour manager /uncle
I do think the twist in The Village absolutely was a true shock. Obviously sending the daughter who is blind to retrieve the medicine and not giving away the secret to her that it’s modern time, but finding out William Hurt paid for planes not to fly over and all the people they gave up there life outside due to a tragedy to start over living in a time with no outside world contact or modern technology.
Yeah I liked the Village too. It proves that murder can follow you anywhere. They thought they could hide from it by living in a quiet plain life.
The first time I watched it I missed the first few minutes. In particular I missed the text explanation of the set up. Because of this I spent the entire movie assuming they were in modern times. When the twist hit I was confused because the twist was something I already thought was true.
What part of the movie disclosed that "William Hurt paid for planes not to fly over...???" I totally missed that, lol!
@@lisaw6219 this is all I could find and it's been a while since I've seen the Village. It is learned that Edward Walker, a former history professor, founded the village over two decades earlier. He recruited people he met at a grief counseling clinic to isolate themselves from societal violence. Edward's family fortune funds the wildlife reserve, built the village inside it, and even paid the government to make it a no-fly zone.
My fav m movie
It would’ve been cool if the daughter was the killer and he was trying to protect her the whole time & connecting to the Unbreakable Split Glass universe.
🎉 just might be ,
I was hoping it was connected to the Sixth Sense with Haley Joel Osmont's character becoming a police medium who catches Josh Harnett but nah
Mr Brooks already exists.
was thinking the family was in the butcher biz and the trap was getting that star to their house... but interesting concept that left us wanting .... really thought the song in the house was going to mean something that tied lady raven to the butcher showing us why she was so invested in catching him.... but some lost opportunities ... also thought the old lady might end up being his mother
Yeah movie was very dissapointhing and Nights worst movie with potential.
This is a storyline that I haven't seen before and I'll be honest, I appreciate M.Nights film making because its he creates different worlds within our world. I thought it was hilarious when he was getting arrested and told the kids "not to forget their science project that's due on Monday" lmao!
A bonafide psychopath😂
This movie had so many turns because at that point I thought he was going to commit suicide by the car’s exhaust. Then the movie…just kept going. It was good though.
Devils rejects?
@@fewcusithat’s not a twist lmao it’s bad writing.
I did think the profiler lady would turn out to be his mother who was trying to protect him along the way as he evaded the police from the inside!
I hadn't thought of that... that would've been good.
Same.
She kind of was in a way.
Yes or capture him cuz she.. idk… unleashed him on the world….
That would've been good too but I was certain it was the wife so he took the fall to protect her so the kids would have one parent.
Let’s be honest this was a way for m night to give his daughter a platform to show off her talents to the industry.
Everyone is trying to figure out the twist and I figured it out. The twist is you were looking for a traditional psychopath movie full of blood, gore and a major death scene and didn’t get that. You got the thrills of the psychopath without the killing, and even seen a human side of a serial killer. You got more of a father role than a serial killer - but you were expecting Kill counts in this film. That’s the twist the first time they actually made a thriller more family friendly than scary! Gotcha! Great job M.Night!!
I like that perspective! That’s a good insight that no one has talked about! At this point you should review movies yourself.
I don’t think that’s it bro bro ……….. there’s never a kil in a m night movie …….
I couldn't agree more!
@@martinezrobinson1628 Have you seen The Village?
Exactly! I've treated psychopaths in my line of work. They can appear very nice, sweet, polite. Right below the surface they are scary!
I thought the twist was going to be the mom or daughter being the baddies and him protecting them in a manner that paints him as the butcher.
Same I thought it was the wife too I was convinced.
I was thinking the same thing that the family planned to trap singer ,daughters first kill lol
congrats on being the first reviewer who used the correct "carbon monoxide" instead of "carbon dioxide" 👏
My understanding is that the film is really about giving a boost to his daughter's music career. Am I wrong?
lol no that’s not what it’s about that’s just part of the movie
I thought I was going to a movie but it was mostly a concert 😂 It was very evident that Daddy was so obsessed with the footage of nepobaby that he lost sight of his film imho.
No, I never got that vibe when I watched the film. I didn't even know she was his daughter.
@@MsBhaven1You are a douche. It probably saved him a ton of money on rights, as well as a way to keep the cost down with regard to the acting. I know it must be hard for your pea brain to imagine, but sometimes people love their progeny and they also want them to succeed. I'm not a breeder and I still want my friends to succeed.
@@MsBhaven1you have the reductionist perspective of a simpleton. It probably saved him a ton of money on rights, as well as a way to keep the cost down with regard to the acting. I know it must be hard for a tiny brain to imagine, but sometimes people love their progeny and they also want them to succeed. I'm not a breeder and I still want my friends to succeed.
I was rooting for him, as we truly only saw his fatherly side and not too much of of his psychopathic killer side
I think this was the twist! We were looking for a psychopath and really got more of a human point of view from the serial killer. Twist!
Tricking us into rooting for a serial killer psychopath was a classic satanic style hollywood spell. Phew! Loved it
I wasn't rooting for him at allll. Spencer could have got it too!! I would have narced on his ass the second he revealed himself.
I am hoping they make another film exploring that psychopathic killer side
@@DarknessRemains that's what I said, we need a sequel!!
Josh hartnett did a good job in his acting.
I'm obsessed with true crime and was impressed with how well Hartnett and the movie portrayed serial killers. He reminded me a lot of BTK , a father with a desire to kill while balancing his family
Exactly !
Maybe the Police knew telling the concert staff about their sting operation was a stupid idea, and that's why they did exactly that, in hopes that someone tells Cooper, so he either slips up and makes a mistake while trying to escape, or he was meant to escape because the actual trap was set back at his house.
Knock at the cabin was actually cool. Putting that one next to OLD is a little extreme
I liked it as well. Did you read the book too? I got the audio book after to see what was different. Both were enjoyable.
@@inigomontoya4032 I did not! But I will now that you’ve recommended. Always fun to see good story variations
I like them both. In Old the test subjects we're so unsympathetic I found myself rooting for the clinical trial. Typical Hollywood fake piousness, as if basically this same experiment is not played out both consciously and unconsciously with millions of people, over time, and basically the method in the movie minus the fantasy aging is literally and actually done by pharmaceutical companies in their clinical trials.
@@inigomontoya4032 you have me intrigued…I’ll have to check it out!
@@Menstral I enjoyed old until the 3rd act…
The twist was his wife's betrayal
Nevermind, i finished the video
Twist was they failed to trap him, he was able to escape every time, last scene when he freed himself laughing like it's too easy! 😂
thanks for saving me 30 bucks for me and my wife at the theaters 😂
👦 🧠
It's worth Watching, these videos are for after u watch the movie not to watch a TH-cam summary lmao
Bro movie was good, go watch it
Agreed
Missing out on having an experience than just watching a summary. In fact this video was suppose to just explain the ending and things we “missed” to the people that have watched it already but it’s a summary with spoilers. He doesn’t even give a warning to the people that haven’t watched it. Anyways the movie was great. There’s very important details that the movie gives that this dumb video failed to explain or notice. The big surprise is that there is no twist but it’s still great.
My favourite thing about movies like this is that it shows how someone like this exists in everyday life, they're not this huge unimaginable monstrous Villian. He's just a normal guy who loves his family but he's really not. Anyone not paying attention would never suspect anything but at soon as you take a closer look, like the profiler lady, you find how predictable they actually are. But he counts on the fact that nobody's really paying attention.
This guy can really bend reality to his will. Even in the end scene when he laughs about the fact that he freed himself, I took it to mean he's thinking to himself "this shit is too easy"
Trap!? Lol escaped from the concert, house they surrounded, limo surrounded by people, and finally the end scene..." this shit is too easy" lol you are right!
The twist is the older fbi lady is haley mills that stars in the 60s movie parent trap!
NO WAY 😂😂😂
Why would you need the ending explained. It's pretty self explanatory
(It's for people that don't want to watch the movie 😝)
Yeah right..
For us who know it will be dumb, amd don't wanna waste money , but wants to know what happens
@@88cloudsin1agreed, too many times fell trapped by good trailers, went to watch it but went back feeling disappointed(plus not having the budget for it as well 😅)
Go away
No one has said anything about how they are in PA and when they leave the concert, its still daylight.....was the concert at like 2pm? that was so odd!
They mention it’s a matinee concert
There were many nonsensical moments.
I would have turned it off after she gets his phone (keeping the "victim" in the basement alive being the sole purpose for her being at his house in the first place) and not immediately dialing 911 barricading herself in the bathroom (along with the exact method/button he was going to use to kill the victim with) until the police arrive. Even if she didn't know the address, she could just switch the location setting in his phone to "on" and Google map his address. Frikin lame..
So, the last 20 minutes of the movie then?
Didn't she technically called the police though? Or atleast have her driver call one?
Yeah he didn't explain that very well. She completely caught him off guard when she got his phone and he was trying real hard to not make a scene in front of his family because they didn't know his alter ego
Exactly!! I also didn’t understand why there was not AT LEAST ONE security personnel with her at all times?! She’s supposed to be a Rihanna or Ariana Grande and her chauffeur is the only person in charge of her security?! Like come on Shyamalan…
The twist should have been that the daughter gave him a hair pin or something to escape when they hugged. Implying she was in on the killings…. Miss Butcher.
Okay the plot should have been that yes he was the butcher but because he was a vampire killer and Lady Raven’s concert was also the ‘Trap’ for all these humans! The Dr profiler was very spooky and Lady Raven’s friend literally looked like a vampire… The many people being drowsy (being drained of blood) the visions Cooper got of other people, the inviting Raven into THEIR HOME linked so well, it would have been an amazing twist.
A character literally refers to Lady Raven and her ‘cult’!
Even if it didn’t go down that route, the movie had so much potential, especially from the first half and it just fell so flat imo.
That would’ve been pretty cool
Johs's performance alone is worth watching this movie. He's a CRIMINALLY underrated actor and does the best with what he's been given. That being said.... M dropped the ball again. I will look past that nobody does a concert in the middle of the day and that there's usually not that much walking around during a concert. And the "music" is like lying in front of a dentist. You can FEEL that someone is working your jaw with tools, and it's uncomfortable, but you don't feel any pain because you're sedated locally. Cooper is ultimately a villain who's only that smart because everyone around him is terribly stupid. I also think that the bike spoke was given to him by his daughter when she hugs him at the end. I hate the ending because it's not earned. There's no reason for Cooper to get away.
There was a few times that they caught that psychopathic grin of his on the big screen, and I literally had to look away 😅
I think M.Night got us all thinking about the twist, we were sitting there trying to work out what the twist is in the end. Then the movie kept progressing and he made us continue to work out what the twist was.
The twist, is that there was no twist.
Even to the end, he made us question if the family or the daughter or the singer was somehow involved.
The father laughing, is M Night laughing at us. He trapped us!
I enjoyed the movie
Trap exists in the same universe as Glass, Unbreakable, and Split. Cooper is not an ordinary guy.
The best punchline😂
so is another shit of shmamalas
Wishful thinking, but No & No, he did not trap us.
He leaves doors (possibilities) open, but that isn't genius - it's just fabricating suspense, while conveniently making his daughter the benevolent heroine of the movie.
That, and despite the good acting by Josh Hartnett in playing the main character, we don't see the evidence / background of the terrible things that he has done (unlike the much better tv series in Dexter - which this film rips off in several ways), so it makes him unconvincing that he is what he is throughout the screenplay, rather than just a desperate man who is being cunning while trying to avoid the overwhelming ridiculous number of authorities who are present.
So please don't be fooled by this film-maker. His movies are always titled in the same terse way, but they fail to expand on any character development, while the story fails to deliver on multiple levels, aside from satisfying a cheap thrill & to hope for a twist 🍿
I think people are overintellectualizing it. “The twist” isn’t even really a thing anymore imo
Hartnett is the only reason this story is entertaining. All in all not a bad movie... And it's not the last we will see of Cooper.
The first half when they are in the concert is really good. It goes downhill as soon as they leave the concert.
I felt empty after watching the movie, I'm hoping that there will be a part 2 as this movie feels like it's incomplete.
@SolomonButton Could we have a 24 inspired/knockoff TV series starring Josh Hartnett please? Thank you!! 😁🎉
M. Night did say on Fallon that he had his next 3 movies planned out
And you're not wrong in feeling that, because this movie fails to deliver what it sets out to, and instead decides to participate in an exercise in trying to top itself multiple times as it edges closer towards its conclusion.
It's little more than a cheap thrill, & which is a shame as the premise for it is fun & exciting, and I enjoyed watching the trailers for it..
Your remedy to a movie that didn’t work for you is to have ANOTHER one? How does that work
I can definitely see a sequel coming
This was clearly about his daughter… And also family dynamics. I can’t piece it all together yet. But the dialogue between Cooper and his wife (or ex wife?) was very intentional.
People are really filling in the blanks and doing the work for M. Night bc it wasn’t a good movie. Too much suspension of belief and I don’t think I should be expected to simply accept all bends in logic. At that point it’s like saying “well it’s a good movie if you ignore everything that makes it bad”.
the biggest suspension of disbelief that i had with this movie was that a pop star would be some how "connected to the people"
yeah.. that's a fantasy world i find too hard to believe given the fact that all our "stars" are sociopathic monsters.
He finally did it. He went full 360 and said "what if the twist... is that there is no twist."
“Uh..Its set in America, ain’t nobody gettin tased when you’re running at the police with a cleaver”👍 I love your narration!! 😂😂😂
I hate that but it's true😂
The real trap was the fact that we paid to see this 🤦🏽♀️
“We” is just you.
I watched a pirated version for free
I really wanted to like this movie, and it has some tense moments and Josh Hartnett plays the role really well, but there were just too many "Are you freaking kidding me?" moments.
Hahahaha serial killer, no hitman, no captain Jack sparrow. The trap!? He was able to escape in all situations, last scene when he freed himself laughing "like it's too easy"
Why do I feel like the only person who liked this movie? It was a classic Hitchcock cat and mouse thriller
My wife and I have been saying the same thing for days now. We called it as a Hitchcock thriller within minutes, and loved it.
I loved it
I loved it too. I also think the story is actually about patriachy, nobody sees that? I thought it’s really obvious.
@@ichispaceRomantic If you're obsessed with things like the dreaded patriarchy, you're liable to see it anywhere
Highly enjoyed it! Hartnett’s face was tripping me out!!
The movie should’ve been called “the escape artist”
Who would I want to visit my house? On a good day? Pedro Pascal. He seems really cool and laid back. On a bad day to cheer me up? Lewis Capaldi, the singer, he's super funny and has a great voice!
If Lady Raven is a SuperHero, her weakness is both Asthma, and Doing Really Stupid Things in the Presence of a Seial Killer
All she had to do was to point him out passing by 1000 police officers. "Are you kidding me" moments!
Kid Cudi had me in tears with his Velaryon wig 😂😂😂😂
Knock at the cabin wasn't a miss. More than favorable reviews, more than triple its budget. Good Performances.
I really enjoyed this movie, my lady, friends and I had a great time!
Great movie, lots of fun, you gotta suspend your disbelief a lot, but idk, if you use videogame logic everything makes total sense and it's fine lol
I really enjoy the way you discuss films by both explaining the plot aswell as adding your personality and insightful thoughts! So glad you started a film channel as well as your games one!
Thanks! Glad ya here
@@MadMorphMovieClub Nice job once again, I overall enjoyed this movie despite the inconsistencies and leaps one has to make in logic over and over again. One thing that bugs me more than anything and maybe you noticed is, what exactly did the police have on the perp that would tie him to the crime?, something they could check at this very concert and know FOR SURE it was him in a body search or an interview.. Even the tattoo on his wrist which he overheard on the police radio was just someone they would like to question, it wasnt a definite tie to the suspect or his crimes... once he heard the police chatter you would think he would have felt pretty safe to just walk out of there with his daugther after the show...after all what exactly did they have to prove it was him., they were just wanting to ask a bunch of random suspects... it would seem he should not have been concerned about leaving the arena at all, but more of the fact that they were eventually narrowing in on him as they had him as one of 3000 men on video. So he should be more concerned about the coming weeks or months in escaping notice than the here and now of getting out of the arena. What am I missing here?
Please stop with M night and his twists. Most of his movies do not have them. Big difference between a twist and a reveal
Yea....
First 50 minutes are pretty good but the remaining 45 are dogshit
Agreed, the concert stuff was good, then it went dumb
A good final plot twist would be that at the end it was the daughter/mom the real serial killer and the dad was just her asistant, that or that there is not one serial killer but a club/cult and the dad is just one of them.
Or the black guy telling him, about the trap, is the serial killer, and that Josh zh character becomes the Patsy, set up, to take the fall, but then the killer blk employee pays a visit to his daughter after Josh goes to prison and puts her in the basement like the oriental dude, and the mother is shown hanging dead on a hook at the blk employees workplace eg in broom closet, leaving questions, as to how, then zooms in on a note, finding out Josh H character was having affair with the blk guys wife and then a flashback to when he found out seeing Josh arrive at his home to sleep with his wife, then he plots revenge by Trapping him at the concert, by telling him abt the Butcher. This way audience is manipulated misled into who is the butcher and why the real butcher, the blk guy killed, he hates cheaters, and he hates the cheating wife and last shot shows the dead hand of his own wife, who also cheated on him in a lesbian RShip with josh H wife... How's that for a MNS plot ending? Bcoz this movie was shite n lame had potential.😢
Or the black guy telling him, about the trap, is the serial killer, and that Josh zh character becomes the Patsy, set up, to take the fall, but then the killer blk employee pays a visit to his daughter after Josh goes to prison and puts her in the basement like the oriental dude, and the mother is shown hanging dead on a hook at the blk employees workplace eg in broom closet, leaving questions, as to how, then zooms in on a note, finding out Josh H character was having affair with the blk guys wife and then a flashback to when he found out seeing Josh arrive at his home to sleep with his wife, then he plots revenge by Trapping him at the concert, by telling him abt the Butcher. This way audience is manipulated misled into who is the butcher and why the real butcher, the blk guy killed, he hates cheaters, and he hates the cheating wife and last shot shows the dead hand of his own wife, who also cheated on him in a lesbian RShip with josh H wife... How's that for a MNS plot ending? Bcoz this movie was shite n lame had potential.
I really didn’t like that he pretty much just ratted himself out to Lady Raven,Like why? He said they caught him but they really didn’t he just snitched on himself. Like if he had walked past those cops how would they know he was the killer? And he had his daughter as extra cover? Eh.
His tattoo
Its terrifying how impressive and adaptable cooper was in this movie the way he is able to manipulate the situation to his benefit over and over again even at the very end
Yeah, they were not able to TRAP him 😂
I liked it. M Night sucked me in. I liked Josh Hartnett. I think we will get a sequel and i will watch it. Lady raven Im good without seeing again. Now the Butcher on the run is kinda fun. Im intrigued. Love a hot serial killer lol😂
It was seriously comparable to a lifetime original movie… 5.4/10
Thank you for this video.....Josh Hartnett is a really good actor indeed....that is the only thing what made this film watchable.......
Critical HIT!!! Hey thanks for clearing up the twists and turns. I was practically stumped throughout the whole picture.
I'm sure gonna be shakin in my sheets thinking about the butcher coming to get me. And make me into bits
I personally enjoyed Old and Knock at the Cabin. I like when stories are different and not remakes, sequels, prequels, etc.
The first second this movie rolls on, all I said was
"He would get away with this somehow, right?"
come on , am i the only one who loves the ending scene
PFFFFT! LOL!!! @ 9:17 My face when I saw this guy take 10 thousand volts and still effortlessly body slam a tactical officer and gouge out his eyes. Total BEAST!
There was a scene when the guy that was kidnapped by The Butcher and he was pulled into a van. It happened too fast and he was pulled into the van with force. It happened in a split second, no way could a normal human pull a full grown man into a van like that. I think there is a twin brother or a partner and The Butcher is more that one person. I also think the lady profiler is The Butchers mom.
The twist was he loved his daughter and felt hurt by his wife's betrayal. He didn't see it coming, or the feeling that came with it.
The REALLY sad part is the trailers basically gave the movie away. There's really no reason to see it. The fact that they had the venue employee telling him everything in the trailer ruined the thought of this movie for me. I'll get it when it's in the bargin bin at Wal-Mart.
It did not ruin it at all for me! I thought the trailer was perfect
Also why did the concert end and it was still daytime outside?? Concerts, especially big concerts from big pop stars, generally end at like 10-11pm???
I’m not convinced M Night has ever been to a concert in his life
excuse me, brah!
How can you fail to mention Josh Hartnett's performance as Ethan
Chandler in the Showtime series Penny Dreadful???
The senior FBI profiler lady, is Oscar winner Hayley Mills... Good to see
her in film again!!
Sometimes, when the acting is good... in this case it was very good... I
can just not be concerned with some of the writing and just enjoy the
movie..... I loved it! and I wonder if it is just a coincidence that the singer
at the concert is Lady Raven?? What was the name of the institute that
David Dunn, The Horde and Mr Glass were in oh yeah, Raven Hill Memorial..
I think, more to come
Penny Dreadful was the BEST series. Time for a rewatch
Wow he got the handcuffs off at the end, when they arrive at central booking I am sure he will be able to fight off 100 swat guys and regular cops too lmao 🤣
I'm personally always suspending my disbelief when it comes to Shyamalan movies, and this one is no exception. I had a pretty fun time and I really enjoyed the songs and the little twists and turns. I especially appreciated the fact that Shyamalan didn't choose to make a twist about Cooper being innocent, because that's exactly what I was expecting when I watched the trailer.
I'd say the only Shyamalan movie I hadn't been able to enjoy was Old, because I couldn't get myself to suspend my disbelief through the whole movie. Just the kid who goes everywhere asking people their age and their job, it was enough to make me laugh out loud because of how unsubtle this narrative technique was. Like, of course, it was going to come into play later.
Sorry, no offense, but wrong. This now part of what I call: _The East Rail Saga._
Here is what I picked up on::
• Rachel asks Dr. Grant what one might hear at a lecture of hers, and DG says something significant:
_"Parent (he only has one) might have sensed this at the beginning, but no one else after could" As she says no one after, the picture of Cooper and his firefighter colleagues has the one black dude away from them, which seems intentional on his part. He doesn't look to be smiling either._
• Lady Raven/Dr. Grant in the SUV says:
_"And I know how else to deal with you". Lady Raven is being controlled by Dr. Grant._
• Dr. Grant is never on the scene at any point during the movie:
_Dr. Grant picks up the cleaver and enters the kitchen. (I knew there was something bugging me the first time) She turns off the tea kettle and if you try to look at her hands, they're blurred enough, and when she turns and the focus is racked back to Rachel, we don't see Dr. Grant's hands and "Dr. Grant" says, "We'll get your kids back to you soon" THAT IS NOT DR. GRANT'S VOICE!!_
_I think we as the audience can see her, but EVERYONE ELSE, is seeing whoever the agent is that's there, and was there the whole time._
• GLASS Film Flashback:
*Joseph Dunn:* (clairvoyance data) "We're gonna salt bae your ass. It's definitely going in the book."
*David Dunn:* "What is that anyway??"
*Joseph:* "It's an internet guy...he's a butcher who salts his meat in an elaborate way." (Cooper, OCD, Meticulous)
*David:* (few lines later) "That's all he does is season meat??"
• I know this one is going to sound crazy:
_I think Cooper is the kid from Unbreakable, not Kevin. "I was always getting punished." OR...hear me out... Cooper is Kevin's brother!_
_Why?_
_Remember Glass hypothesized that if he was on one end of the spectrum there had to someone on the other end. For example: Glass has a superior mental, but inferior physical, while Overseer has superior physical._
• What we can see so far in respect to the power types:
+ Mental
_[Glass] (internal) -Intellect -Strategy -Master Manipulation_
_[Dr. Grant] (external). -Constructs -Possession -Intellect_
+ Physical
_[Overseer] (external) -Strength -Invulnerability -Psychometry_
+ Emotional
_[The Horde/The Beast] (internal/external) -Strength -Resistance -Neurostimulation_
*Why is he not with Overseer?*
_It's driven by emotional energy that developed a superhuman level of adrenaline production and disposal. He over stimulates nervous systems to paralyze with fear._
_[The Butcher] (internal/external) -Charisma -Neuroparalysis -Tactile Probability Manipulation_
*Why is HE not with Overseer?*
_It's driven by emotional energy same as Kevin but Cooper disables nervous systems and nullifies their fight or flight. He can manipulate probability through touch, contact, and proximity. Like an aura that allows him a path where he can naturally position himself at the right place, and right time. (The woman who happens to be lightheaded at the steps, The wallet that jus happens to be in the apron Cooper took with the special card he needed, knowing where the sugar was)
• Remember when Glass said this?
_Do you know what the scariest thing is? To not know your place in this world, to not know why you're here. That's - that's just an awful feeling. I almost gave up hope. There were so many times I questioned myself...But I found you. So many sacrifices, just to find you._
_M. Night Shyamalan & Josh Hartnett TRAP interview:_
*Night:* "In fact, upon my research, evolutionarily, those people because in war or going to do stuff, they're very helpful. They were advantageous to a population"
*Josh:* "I read a few books that you wouldn't have thought would be about sociopathy but clearly, were, like books of heroism and war and things like that. We tend to look at people that are archetypal heroes and think, like, Wow, they sacrifice anything to get their goals met. Well, that's not really good. You don't want to be around somebody who has no empathy."
There's probably more, but I need to review all the movies again. Le t me know if you guys spotted anything else!
Lady Raven could have dialed 911 in the bathroom, and threw coopers phone in the toilet. Preventing him from being able to kill Spenser and bringing the cops straight to his door.
I really enjoyed this movie! And yes, there has to be a lot of suspension of disbelief. I think that the best moment for Cooper to have escaped is when the concert ended, and everyone was leaving. As long as he's able to get away with not showing the lamb tattoo on his wrist, he should have been good.
I DON'T MIND AT ALL M.Night did a privilege to picked his own daughter to played in his own movie.
But I DO MIND when her screen times is too much, where the times can be used for showing more tricks from Butcher in how he killing people, how he lure the victims, how he lives a double live, how Josh Harnett acts switching character, how's Butcher past trauma.
Shame, this movie has so much potential especially for a long comeback actor like Josh Harnett.
Idea for a twist. He is not actually a good serial killer.
But his wife is. She has being covering for him over the years, cleaning and erasing evidence over the years, all out of love. However, the more and more he fucks up she gets tired of him and realizes that eventually he will get caught. So she sets all this up as a "test" to see if he can truly take care of himself and be worthy of her love.
As the movie ends, he gets shot and killed. Years later, the daughter gets a video from her dad:
"Hey sweety. I guess the cat is out of the bag now. I want you know that- I regret nothing. Nothing at all. I am- I am what many want to be. FREE. Free from guilt, from society's taboos and above all free from all responsibility. Well that's not true. You are my responsibility. You are everything to me. I was so happy when you were born. I was beyond proud of your grades. But above all... I was so, so happy when I realized you were like me. Yes I know what happened to all the catss in the neighborhood. Woodchipper. Smart. Lets not beat around the bush. If you see this I am dead and you are 20 right now. If this video got to you as I planned you will see a pdf map to my... Home away from home. Your mom thought I didn't know but I did. I had hoped she would be honest with me but- It just wasn't in the cards. No, NO! JUST LIKE MY MA! She can't feel proud of herself unless she KNOCKS ME DOWN THAT FUCKING CU-! Sorry, sorry. I shouldnt say that. Look at the end of the day, all I want you is to be proud of your mind. You are unique and above the worms who just occupy space and fucking waste air. Aside from my humble shack, tools and money. I left a surprise for your mother. Tell her if she doesn't enjoy it, its her recipe. I love you sweetheart, take care of your little brother. You never know what crazies are out there."
"Oh one last thing, people who are as smart as we are often casted loners. We are not, somewhere in the house I left a business card of a good friend. He is trustworthy and will help see as he did me. Oh and when you call him, tell him to come over to raise a GLASS on my honor. Heh, he'll get it. Fuck I do hope I die today otherwise I'm gonna look stupid. I'm gonna grab some shut eye before the concert- Good night."
You should have made this movie. Awesome plot twist
Wow! Thanks . . You saved me what-ever the Time was on this movie to be watched. I really do hope that ALL of his movies come together and make sense afterwards.
I thought it was a great movie. Enjoyed seeing all of Cooper’s ingenious escape ideas, even though the situations were unbelievable.
How did the family get put in a room? I can’t find where you tell us that part.
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The next movie should be years later where see the Daughter getting married. Have the wedding set on an island somewhere which would also reintroduce Lady Raven making a guest performance. Lady Raven singing there would be the catalyst to show Josh Hartnets character that this is another trap , where every guest is actually the FBI and he needs to get off the island as quickly as possible but not before seeking revenge on his Wife, Lady Raven, and the Profiler lady. An island would give us the sense that the setting is as contained as a concert arena.
2:23 actually when I worked at a hotel we had a similar situation and someone did do this lol
I saw this twice on opening day. I loved it. Great casting and pretty good twists. Zeke from The Faculty grew up and did too much of his pen poudre.
Same here I watched Trap twice opening day. I thoroughly enjoyed it as well. ❤❤❤❤🎬🎥🎟️🎞️🍿🥤
I really enjoyed it... once I got past my suspension of disbelief and just strapped in for the crazy ride!! 7.5/10 😮🎉
What exactly did you enjoy? It was unrealistic, no M Night twist.
There was no twists
@ernestp.worrell8871 There were several many... 😳🎉 Did you NOT see it?!?
The movie is exceptionally well-crafted, though it might not appeal to everyone. Personally, I found it outstanding. To fully appreciate the excellence of the acting, some understanding of psychology is helpful.
for me josh will be penny dreadful, 30 days of night and lucky number slevin . also great in oppenheimer and while trap is just okay he acts very well
You didn't really explain the ending you just said exactly what happened
This is one I walked out of
I just walked out of this today lol
I really thought there was no real twist to the film that wasn't given away in the trailer already, which sort of made it fresh. At most you could say that the entire film doesn't take place at the concert.
But after seeing some reivews saying the film divebombs in the second half I was expecting some crazy twist that made the movie worse like him being the singer's real father (she mentions she has an estranged father who she forgives) or that the daughter was the real killer or something. I have no idea what made the second half so bad for these critics.
Shamalan Talking about superpowers… we’re going to find out this is connected to the split/glass universe in the sequel somehow 🤦🏻♂️
Thanks for recapping this movie and saving me time, this plot would have annoyed me too! I'm all for twists and turns but there has to be some logic to it.
The concert was EVERYTHING to the movie. Did you listen to the songs? Saleka is a phenomenal musician, singer, song-writer and ACTRESS. She stole the show. 10/10 MOVIE. spine-tingling. bone-tingling scary movie on the level of PSYCHO.
The "plot" (or if it isn't, it's just a saddening easter egg) is the Lion Statues, with a villain as main character. All of us old-schooled in cinema - talking about Mr. Shyamalan - remember Glass, Split and Unbreakable... the statue's... mommy issues references... Villains that we "Cheer for".
Well well.... Can't take it out of my head, Mr. Shy is trying to get back to that universe, even is this particular movie was "meh". Just a binding history, maybe.
Josh hartnett killed it hell yeah 💯 trap was refreshing I like it
The film is so ridiculous. I can suspend belief, but not as far as the film wants me to.
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it’s a movie not a documentary
FACTS!!!
We're searching for a serial killer but I'll totally bring you into this storage room to get a shirt.
30 Cops? No problem I've got a name badge
Being held at gun point in the drivers seat...that's ok I'll just Batman into the crowd somehow
Hey before I escape lets have pie with my wife.
Honestly to me, no matter how shitty the movie is, Shyamalan always has such interesting unique ideas that I enjoy the bad movies almost as much as the good ones. I enjoyed old and knock at the cabin. They could be so much better with more thought, but tbh I enjoyed this movie regardless
I love Josh Hartnet!
I think the twist is how we perceive "Trap" became the movie title changed at the end. We thought the trap is the concert, but no, after the scene changes from the concert to their home, the actual trap is what the wife set to find out if his husband if the butcher. All MS movies twist comes to the very end of the movie. And the conversation between husband and wife is the big twist. Not what I am expecting but that what makes it a little shocking.
I was really hoping the twist would be that Spencer was actually the butcher and not the victim
90% of the biggest plotholes in scenes, all through the movie, can be explained by one thing : psychic superpowers, mind manipulation.
(never featured in unbreakable universe...until now ?)
Try it, watch it keeping that in mind...this dude can control other people's minds (to an extent)
The twist here is that we know he's a good dad, but we hate him as a serial killer and the police are so dumb and he gets away at the end.
I lost it when the stage opens up for the guest rapper and Cooper’s big escape plan is to say to his daughter “hey I wonder where that goes!” To which she says “dad you’re being weird.”
Also M night’s daughter’s multiple performances, and the fact that she stops a song to do a comically long speech about how her “father wasn’t there for her growing up and she made her own happiness” etc while her real life father is making a movie solely so she could attempt to launch a singing career.
Finally can’t believe I missed Kim is the wife! You didn’t realize the FBI profiler was Ms Bliss from Saved by The Bell/Good morning Miss Bliss though!!
i think lady raven making that whole speak about her dad (within the movie) is in correlation with the daughter hugging her dad at the end of the movie. the song that raven sings after that speech is called "release", which the daughter 'releases' her dad.
I really loved this movie though! Yes very unrealistic but he’s such a great actor!
The movie is about Mknights daughter being a pop star and the rest is written around it in an impossible way that makes no since
The spoke. Anyone who has attempted wheel repairs knows what a pain in the ass removing a spoke is. Since tension is key, it has a blunt stud ending that attaches to the axle and a threaded bolt end inside the rim that maintains the tension and shape of the wheel. You’d have to remove the tyre, inner tube and puncture strip before accessing the threaded bolt of the spoke, then feed the spoke out of the hole in the axle. Yes. I’m a nerd.