Chögyam Trungpa: Complete speech from Zeitgeist: The Movie

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  • @babbarr77
    @babbarr77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I was his student whiie he was alive in USA 1971-1987. The first moment I met him, I knew I was looking at the goal of Buddhism.

    • @dkipu266
      @dkipu266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      John Tischer So fortunate you are.

    • @Bibbzter666
      @Bibbzter666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And what goal might that be?

    • @babbarr77
      @babbarr77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Bibbzter666 a fully awake human being who had no sense of self, ego. He was there emore than anyone, yet,there was no one there

    • @Bibbzter666
      @Bibbzter666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@babbarr77 Got it 🙏🏼

    • @karenwilcox8508
      @karenwilcox8508 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What a gift you received.

  • @Windpferd108
    @Windpferd108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In my eyes the most important spiritual teacher of the last century. Utterly clear but not easy to understand. Difficult to understand ... because of the ungraspable nature of the topic he speaks about. Really mind blowing ... Sharp and brilliant mind and a good, warm and genuine heart. Thank you for not giving up on us!

    • @AL_THOMAS_777
      @AL_THOMAS_777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please do not forget famous "Zen master" OSHO - once banned and heavily opposed by the establishment - but now cherished world wide !

  • @gost4995
    @gost4995 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Who else is listening to this and hearing the echos in your head??

    • @777impresso
      @777impresso 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just breathe, and you'll breathe all through. ))

    • @frerat
      @frerat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Total recall..? Whoooooaaa

    • @TonyCatalano
      @TonyCatalano 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well... I do now.

    • @BadDudeTheMovie
      @BadDudeTheMovie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well yea ... ears

    • @coco-mj5jd
      @coco-mj5jd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup!

  • @dagmarehouniet9186
    @dagmarehouniet9186 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just listened to these teachings... wonderful!

  • @donnabat7808
    @donnabat7808 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you for uploading this video 🙏

  • @silversobe
    @silversobe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Always wanted to hear this. Thank You

  • @khatsikbhu1
    @khatsikbhu1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    🙏 What a Vajra Teaching 🙏

  • @llamadeus.official
    @llamadeus.official 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There is no past, there is no future. Only now...

  • @walterlogue8539
    @walterlogue8539 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Often people do not understand how to be grownups in this culture. We resent the one who has to say NO and ridicule profound intelligence. We like truths that exonerate us. Dharma does not.
    Trungpa Rinpoche was skillful and gentle, while at the same time, completely unapologetic with the truth.
    Many did have and will continue to have trouble with this approach. (Thank goodness)
    Maybe that is one of the points of the whole path?
    Our Western approach to humanity is based on ironic assumptions held together by apologies and lies.
    Isn't it?
    The Tibetan Buddhist approach that Trungpa Rinpoche presented is based in human dignity and intrinsic sanity; Hard to grok from within the gossamer world of materialism and self-importance.
    This selfless teacher came and took off his robes, his clothes, his personal privacy and completely exposed his heart, his life and his deeply processed wisdom. People used whatever part of him, and he held nothing back.
    So, yeah, I guess that sort of selflessness must be sleazy, or wrong or bad.. in this Christian-ish idiom of the West?
    In a culture of pretentious superficial proprieties and costumed clerical murderers, he must have been the bad guy.
    RIGHT?
    Make of it what you are able to, and, at the same time, please know that, for me, his gift was to completely surrender his every waking moment to his genuine wish to bring humanity and western thought into intimacy with the nature of mind. His celebration of life and dharma excluded no one, and offered no place to hide for anyone - least of all Trungpa Rinpoche.
    His contributions have already uplifted this culture and continues to do so to this day.
    A VIDYADHARA.
    IMO

    • @brienmaybe.4415
      @brienmaybe.4415 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes but the game cannot be stopped, what you have said has been said by "you" many times for all of eternity "you" must accept that this is the way it is and thats it. I too must accept that even if the ego doesnt agree. Fly in peace friend, for its only found within and not without.

  • @yummamudra
    @yummamudra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    So brilliant .. He has been the light in my life , and for thousands of people . Gratitude 🙏 for the luck of seeing and reading and listening to the teachings . Thank you .

  • @coco-mj5jd
    @coco-mj5jd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is one lecture that I keep returning to time and again.

    • @dkipu266
      @dkipu266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you’ve not listened to the audible version of “Smile at Fear” by Chogyam Trungpa...You might like that as well. it’s an excellent, well organized set of teachings that go beyond this talk.

    • @coco-mj5jd
      @coco-mj5jd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dkipu266 thanks!!

  • @AL_THOMAS_777
    @AL_THOMAS_777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just read his nice book: "The sacred path of the warrior" In fact one of the m o s t interesting books I e v e r been reading (and it were a lot ) ! Especially that what exactly defines a real Shambhala warrior !!!

  • @Mor4me
    @Mor4me 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is one of his good ones.

  • @garypuckettmuse
    @garypuckettmuse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "We read our autobiography when we are bored or apprehensive". Absolutely hilarious. Dry, dry, dry wit and irony. I wonder how many people really got how hilarious he was.

  • @Johnnyhumbkr
    @Johnnyhumbkr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A true genius, in the biggest sense of the word! A man who will make you think, if you’ve surrendered. Sure,he had some behavioral dichotomy about him, who doesn’t? What other famous Buddhist teachers could connect on this level? I can’t think of one, and I’ve been a Buddhist for a long time! RIP Rinpoche!

  • @smcracraft
    @smcracraft 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Met CT in Los Angeles before his passing. Fond of CTSM which I regard as the top book on Buddhism, possibly all of spirituality ever. The book was singlehandedly responsible for bringing me out of my darkest hour (yet) in my life. I need to reread it. I did type it all in cover-to-cover at one point in my life to ensure that I lived it. I don't practice meditation however as my mind is too busy. Steve Jobs, whom I reported into at Apple at HQ, was a fan of CTSM and also Yogananda and his Mahasamadhi. I once experienced Nirvikalpa Samadhi after some basic kata/kana practice with Sensei E. Otis in Shotokan when Sensei Ray Dalke was briefly away. It's pretty convincing and I can see why the great experts on the subject wrote about it in this way. I heretically believe we came from that before birth and return to it after death, all automatically, but that from a humanist perspective, we should be helping others on the way as much as possible, selflessly, without selfishness, conversion, etc. Another favorite is Jiddu Krishnamurti's Flame of Attention and Merill-Wolff's Consciousness Without an Object and of course some major Zen books. I was at Apple when Mr. Jobs brought his sensei in and I was at the class which was simple sitting meditation in a jam-packed line with an enormous waiting line. Again, I don't meditate due to over-busy coding/online life which definitely is not conducive to contemplative life, but no matter.

    • @jonashjerpe7421
      @jonashjerpe7421 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Stuart Thanks for interesting info!
      I suggest you to find a good teacher in order to overcome the challenges with compulsive thinking. I had a tenure at university before my life changed due to many awakenings and subsequent meditation work. Now a decade of extremely devoted, contemplative explorations has passed. It is essential to embody the insights from awakenings. Meditation is simply the presence that allow us to face what we otherwise strive to neglect. It you think too much, it is because you feel to little. We are stuck in our heads, when we fail to sense what goes on in our bodies.
      The rewards are immense. Go all the way!

    • @dharmaofdog7676
      @dharmaofdog7676 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Stuart - While this response to you is a good year following, perhaps, if required, you still might receive it. I am a bit puzzled by your comments i.e. " ... type it all in cover to cover at one pt. in Life to ensure that I lived it." Another, "... I don't meditate due to over busy coding/online life .... not conducive to contemplative life ..." . Hmm. Perhaps you might relook/rethink Meditation, in particular, Shamatha/Vipashyana. You seem to do quite a lot of reading (& typing) apparently, so your comment about being over-busy seems puzzling. As a Student of CTR since 1982, I don't ever recall being instructed to Meditate 24/7 or beyond specific Retreats &Programs that one schedules, the overall expectations (&encouragement) in regards to S/V is to practice it on a consistent basis, TIME is somewhat Relative. Discipline, which actually means HIGH REPETITION, IS required. I have been fortunate to receive many specific Practices over the years, all Monastic in origin, so I do have to carve out time in order to accomplish those. With Meditation (Sh/Vip), I view that as I would having my coffee, shower or any morning activity. My goal is 1/2hr., sometimes more, some less but Time in this context is not particularly important. For me, it is the act or ritual of just sitting down to Meditate. Years ago it took me longer to "settle" my Mind but that has decreased mainly because I just DO IT. There is a payoff to Discipline, however, it STILL requires effort to make that time. I will often be able to stick to this Routine for months and then Pfft!, I go off road for months. But I don't worry, I don't beat myself up for these gaps knowing that inspiration will occur and I'll start again. I've finally eased my approach overall and more relaxed about the whole thing - a bit like the Ocean Tides, in/out, meditation/no meditation. Days like today when "busy Life" crowds out formal Sitting I listen to these Talks instead. (Why copy type when you can listen to actual Voice? ). So Stuart, I think you might have the wrong idea about Meditation & what is required? His Holiness, Dilgo Khyentse, R once said that if one can Practice in NYC you can do it anywhere. And yes, we are all "busy". Whatever that word means for someone. When I hear myself say "busy", it's usually a cop out or I'm just disorganized and chasing my tail. While I am always careful to speak about the Teachings, let alone make suggestions, (for I honestly don't know what karma anyone is burning), I am confident to suggest that one doesn't have to give up ones Life in order to do Contemplative Practices. There is no "goal per se" yet there are Frameworks. While Reading Dharma is wonderful, nothing can replace the Fruition of Meditation. Nothing can be more profound than the slow blooming and widening of Space that occurs within the Mind and no words can replace it. After years of practicing and as I grow older I've yet to discover a Practice more profound than Shamatha Vipashyana. Rinpoche taught us this Beginning Practice but I assumed it was for "Beginners". I've discovered that it is actually a Fruition Practice. While it is always incorporated into other Practices and Rituals, it can stand alone. Because it came "first" perhaps we thought it was "less"? Perhaps the sheer simplicity of this Practice creates this assumption? One doesn't have to commit to a total Monastic World for Sitting Practice. Incorporating Shamatha Vipashyana into your daily "over busy coding/on line Life", is EXACTLY what is required for this Practice as your "busy" is full of challenges and struggles - good and bad, happy/sad. Our lives have all required so that the Wheel may turn, no Robes required. Perhaps if you try it this way, I can "almost" guarantee that you then will have "lived it" i.e. the profound essence of Cutting Through S M. Good Luck to you Stuart. Kindly, JBC/NY

    • @smcracraft
      @smcracraft 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dharmaofdog7676 To relax I just lay on my bed for 20 minutes. Have experienced nirvikalpa samadhi and no desire to repeat until after death when it is automatic.

    • @leosullivan9228
      @leosullivan9228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      VCTR"S sangha sponsors numerous online & in-person meditation events. Look up *Shambhala Meditation Center* in your area

    • @AL_THOMAS_777
      @AL_THOMAS_777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please do not reduce this Lama to one opening of the body, okay

  • @gcmgcm4238
    @gcmgcm4238 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very unique piercing into human nature and spiritual comprehension.

  • @rosswible3641
    @rosswible3641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    BEING in the NOW.
    Being in the now, is also to say, “I am alive”.
    [There is no “re-present” or “re-presentative’s”. Cain, the liar and murderer, can not re-present. The Strawman is indeed a silly billy.]

  • @gregoryford3531
    @gregoryford3531 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My early eastern teachers were Indian nationals. Warning me not to be a dogmatist., one such teacher said that I should just find the corner of a meditation bed and sit. So to that end I found the Surmang nisidana of the Dorje Dradul. This humble Mandala is beyond fame and ritual. So I must bow to the initated Planetary Master Heroes of the Dorje Draduls pure associations.

  • @gregoryford3531
    @gregoryford3531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Umm, this is the incontrovertible now of 2022. Please bear with me: Namo Bhaisajaya Buddha. As an immigrant on Earth (in America) in samsara. I bow to this Planetary Master Hero. At any rate (as Native Americans speak of).:Big Medicine is, at yet, still possible. Nuff said. (Or perhaps); NAMASTE...

  • @keeprunningforest4875
    @keeprunningforest4875 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To experience here and now you can't own anything, not even your body is yours so respect it , drink water.

  • @naturalisted1714
    @naturalisted1714 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Adversity is merely a route to enlightenment. It is not the only way.

    • @paingiver28
      @paingiver28 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      all base of religions to control people is by fear, consequence and adversity. no religion or god said " do nothing, just be happy ".

    • @AL_THOMAS_777
      @AL_THOMAS_777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paingiver28

    • @angelasiegfried-rossi5034
      @angelasiegfried-rossi5034 ปีที่แล้ว

      Religio i dogmi ,insegnamenti ,educazioni sia Psychologieche che di vita ,sono tutte limitate ...alla fine si cercano nuove forme o Maestro o scuole di vita ecc...ma anche queste si esauriscono ...la ricerca di me stesso e'un compito personale che e' in grado di andare oltre tutto cio che conosco e offrirmi il nuovo ....

    • @garypuckettmuse
      @garypuckettmuse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well as he says in another video when things get bad and you are alone there is "no chickening out".

  • @JootsyMansfield
    @JootsyMansfield ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool.

  • @sandydavidson4056
    @sandydavidson4056 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i READ SOME CRITICISMS OF THIS MAN ABOUT SOME ACTIONS THAT HE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE TAKEN but I come from a a pretty harsh background and when I go to most Buddhists centres in this country, the UK, most of them are run primarily for and by middle class folk who've often not had exposure to the harsher realities of life for many folk, though that does not mean to say they suffer less from deeper psychological issues and folk from courser backgrounds would not find the actions described as immoral or even unhealthy,to them these things do not exist hardly. To people like these, myself included, his teachings and especially his failings give them hope. A bit like Jesus, who said if you are good already, don't come to see me, go your own way you don't need me, I am for for the folk who the good people won't deal with. I have a torrid time with Dharma, it constantly feels like I am in a violent storm and sometimes that I've Lost, where to go once done so? Everything is relative and there is no single set of actions that can be extracted from a situation without losing something, the butterflies wings are seemingly unimportant, but in Dharma, my understanding is that ALL important, there is no big or small in Dharma, this is conventional language only. One can not know the strains and stresses prevalent in any given situation even when one is in it. I'm aware that this talk may not have relevance to many people but to me it rang bells, helpful ones and offers me hope at this moment when I have been struggling.

    • @babbarr77
      @babbarr77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Most important is to never give up on the path.

    • @giselagrosjean1075
      @giselagrosjean1075 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some criticism? He was a rapist, just say the word. You are ok with that apparently.

    • @AL_THOMAS_777
      @AL_THOMAS_777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@babbarr77

  • @spoismael
    @spoismael 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice talk.

  • @robertgeraldwalker4987
    @robertgeraldwalker4987 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the date and location of this teaching?

  • @leosullivan9228
    @leosullivan9228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chogyam Trungpa"s students & sangha continue to sponsor numerous online & in-person meditation, tantric/ vipassna & dzogchen events worldwide. Look up *Shambhala Meditation Center* in your area

  • @tyu346
    @tyu346 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tonight I had a dream with him, he was in a chair with golden color sun glasses and with a big smile waiting for his máster.

  • @angrybrids-t2q
    @angrybrids-t2q 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love you

  • @derekk2732
    @derekk2732 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Transcript for this entire talk anyone? I want to relisten to the part about it being sesame street lol.

  • @thiagocosta9651
    @thiagocosta9651 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ele fumava tabaco?

  • @rosswible9321
    @rosswible9321 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm still trying to figure out, is Sanskrit like Latin, a language of the dying?

    • @sarahcwhitehead
      @sarahcwhitehead 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, and also is a scholarly language, not everyday speech.

  • @wongyokelin9180
    @wongyokelin9180 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    自动自发。。。

  • @sarabethge4334
    @sarabethge4334 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    F44

  • @mikesradguitars
    @mikesradguitars 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What year was this?

    • @greenspringvalley
      @greenspringvalley 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the Naropa teachings were late 1960s early 70s.

    • @frerat
      @frerat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seems in those time humanity was trying its best to break through this happiness barrier, powers that be got better at clamping down on this type of shit

    • @bR3NONiP
      @bR3NONiP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      1983

  • @canalalternativo6915
    @canalalternativo6915 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ...

  • @chriswilkinson3440
    @chriswilkinson3440 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Speaks tosh, hypnotically.

  • @joshzeidner5412
    @joshzeidner5412 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kinda confusing

    • @alexdavidson7785
      @alexdavidson7785 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea buddha dharma can be

    • @divine-wind
      @divine-wind 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      When there is sound you hear, when you open your eyes you see.
      The "Now" is too clear it can be hard to see.
      By the time the Now is analysed it's already gone
      Sometimes Now confusing, sometimes Now clear, sometimes now thinking, sometimes Now not thinking, sometimes Now working, sometimes now surfing.
      Sometimes now typing on TH-cam ;)

    • @AL_THOMAS_777
      @AL_THOMAS_777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexdavidson7785 Yup. To confuse unworthy folks . . .

  • @fuckenps3
    @fuckenps3 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Rambling and incoherent, if you ask me

    • @winterhaydn5640
      @winterhaydn5640 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      not incoherent, but his pacing is very jilted

    • @anikoleva5822
      @anikoleva5822 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ྀIt's crystal clear and very profound if you are interested in what Trungpa Rinpoche is saying. If not, why bother?

    • @sandpaper631
      @sandpaper631 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      In other words: My beliefs and opinions weren't validated therefore he is rambling and incoherent

    • @AL_THOMAS_777
      @AL_THOMAS_777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anikoleva5822