@@DE3P_Beats yeah but I’m saying you can’t really take your time, you gotta know your way around in order to work quickly. the other people can’t be there all day, so that’s where the pressure is for me
The best guests on your channel are those who like experimenting with new sounds and infusing other genres into their music. This guy was clearly one of them. I feel like I can also notice this just by the finished beat. In summary, these beats go hard 😂
the flamenco artist is so resourceful, he basically provided him with: chord strumming picado melody lines chord stabs percussive percs claps in both muted and sharp - NOT MANY INSTRMENTS can be THIS COMPLETE - its like he took care of bass, lead, drums, and percs
Need a part two with him. He was a vibe. Totally open to your production and he was able to adapt to what stylistically isn’t normal for him. I’m sure he can play any style you can think of as well.
This has hyped me so much, can't lie! I'm from London but I live a couple hours away from Seville now and I go to bare flamenco shows and trust me, they're sick! They're honestly some of the best guitarist you'll meet, serious. This fusion is sick, try get yourselves out here and come see a couple shows man, they're heavy 👍🏾
Phenomenal, I would’ve never thought of adding beats to a flamenco song. I also love seeing the process. Amazing to see you create music with a musician in real time.
The problem isn't the volume of the click but the measure... Flamenco usually has /6 /12 measure with very particular accent related to "palos" (Alegrias, Bulerias, Seguirillas, Rumbas, Soleares... that could go even deeper with Soleá por Bulerías mixing part of one Palo into other). It's possible to adapt those rhythms into 4/4 with what's called "Amalgama" (translated into something like "amalgamation") with taking the "weirdest" part of the rhythm (weirdest in the good sense but hard to adapt into 4/4) and mix with other Palo accent or even directly rhythm. To put some light into this Gibberish... first of all think in 2 parts of the same /12 measure A6/12 B6/12 then check the accents and try to fit different A6/12 part from another Palo which has the similar accents to the Original B6/12... makes sense? Obviously if you understand these rhythmic patterns to a point you can "play" over there you can re-adapt those accents into your own amalgamas to fit regular 4/4 BoomBap style. Another problem is Flamenco comes from Singing later into Guitar later into Cajón (even Palmas were there from the very beginning AFAIK) and historically Guitar Player should be who follow the Singer (el Cante) instead opposite. I know... it's nuts but it how it goes... So usually the Flamenco Musicians (and Dancers) develop an inner clock based on knowing each other and play the same patterns on an on to a point any of them can anticipate (or swing late drop) those accents making it so rich and spontaneous but at the same time so hard to implement "as is" into electronic production. For the good luck of any reading until this point I will point (lol) some resources to understand all this gibberish. First of all (or the latest) search for Solo Los Solo - Retorno al Principio. You will find an amazing (and underrated) work on implementing Flamenco the right way into HipHop. Another interesting resource will be Triana - Abre la puerta niña where you will assist to a Flamenco Rock masterclass to see those patterns exported from the traditional Flamenco into Psicodelic Rock from the 70's and finally if you want to get mindblowed search for UHF Ultra High Flamenco "anything" to reach one of the most advanced musicians perfoming like Free Jazz with Flamenco Roots. There are a lot of other references such a Chano Dominguez (Flamenco Jazz), Lole y Manuel (Flamenco Rock), Enrique Moriente (Fusión), Pata Negra (Flamenco Rock) with Raimundo Amador (Guitar Player BB King's friend...) and so many more. I hope this helps others and please take it as a grain of salt not being myself and expert more than "aficionao" but with enough open mind and electronic HipHop producer background to point what in my humble opinion should be taught at Flamenco Fusión schools (if someone ask me) Paz, Amor y Alegría compareh!
That'a very nice try actually! I'm a Flamenco musician myself and have been eager to perform in a more "actualized" fashion for quite a long time. this will inspire me to
Bro this has to be my favourite vid when you collabd with a musician. Dope ASF 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 would have love to see you flip it to an Afrobeat/swing banger (first beat) but 2nd beat is flawless
Grande Ramon ostia! As a Spanish kid I love the fact that you brought someone so talented just as you are to de stu. Age means knowledge. Love ya Ocean, and awesome beat🤙🏼🖤
I think we need to appreciate the talent you need to have to be able to mix beats under the pressure of being in front of multiple people
what pressure lol it's better being with multiple people imo
@@DE3P_Beats so you’re saying there’s more pressure when you’re alone?
@@adammmmmmmmmmmmm im saying it's more fun with others involved
@@DE3P_Beats yeah but I’m saying you can’t really take your time, you gotta know your way around in order to work quickly. the other people can’t be there all day, so that’s where the pressure is for me
@@adammmmmmmmmmmmm That depends on the people and your skills though
We need part two with this guy. He’s been one of the most receptive to the production so far it seems. Tackle a RnB beat next maybe?
r&b would be crazy, Ocean make it happen!
Yea he definitely seems more into the music process and knows more about it. He wanted to fix his delay and asked for a louder metronome
Flamingo guitarists they have a beat machine in their head from the get go
Maybe a soca batchata beat
i don' t know how many people realise the music knowledge and musical understanding that the guitarist has ...
He's very skilled
Thanks! I was inspiring to play with Ocean and give flamenco a new dimension! Ramon Ruiz Flamenco
He is very bad
@@jajajajajajajai You obviously don't play guitar
@@CptnConundrum I play better that this Guy hahahah
love the fact the guy really got into the creative part shout out flamenco man
Thanks! Ocean inspired me!
ngl this studio is really aesthetic and i like it
Cheers bro
@@prodbyocean how about making this kind of video longer? I mean, showing us more than two beats, very cool series
@@prodbyocean please what mic 🎤 did you use to record the guitar? Wish you would reply
Picasso?
That man was in flow state. 🙏🏿 His ability to vibe with a completely different style was heat
keep letting artists shape the beat together with you ocean ❤
This guys attitude was fucking fantastic, I love the clap 👏 😍 he was actually feeling it.
Thanks! Flamenco teaches you to clap because we are always clapping to dancers!
ocean is one of the few that hire actual musicians to make content and dope music, love that man keep it up 🙏🏻❤️🔥
The new studio looks sick 🔥
WTF THIS GENTLEMAN IS A BEAST! The level of mastery in this video 😭
The best guests on your channel are those who like experimenting with new sounds and infusing other genres into their music. This guy was clearly one of them.
I feel like I can also notice this just by the finished beat.
In summary, these beats go hard 😂
Very proud to say, Ramon is my flamenco guitar teacher and he is amazing!! Hola Ramon, it's Sean "El Nino Del Grove"!!
I like how it’s always a collaboration and he’ll let the guests add to the tracks in whatever way they’d like: chords, ideas, etc.
The Guitarist is multi talented I will like to see a part two of this.
Ocean + Drill = Maserpiece every time
This was the best musician you brought so far, Viva España y viva el flamenco🇪🇸👏‼️
¡Viva!
the flamenco artist is so resourceful, he basically provided him with:
chord strumming
picado melody lines
chord stabs
percussive percs
claps in both muted and sharp
- NOT MANY INSTRMENTS can be THIS COMPLETE - its like he took care of bass, lead, drums, and percs
That's Ramon Ruiz, Great flamenco guitarist!! would love to see more of him in your videos!
Need a part two with him. He was a vibe. Totally open to your production and he was able to adapt to what stylistically isn’t normal for him. I’m sure he can play any style you can think of as well.
The Second beat is absolutely fire 🔥
There’s really nothing that beats live collaboration, beautiful ✨
When the beats ocean makes goes against every musical muscle this guy even knew he has
He’s wincing from the pain
This guitarist is feeling it man. A master
i like this collaborator. he actually engaged in the production fr
This guy is awesome, so talented, Also has the best sounding clap I ever heard in my life 😂🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Because im sure he is from Seville, the home of flamenco
Thanks 🙏👍. I’m from Granada 😊
This shit is so fire plus dude is helping with the production this guy is awesome we need part two for sure
This has hyped me so much, can't lie! I'm from London but I live a couple hours away from Seville now and I go to bare flamenco shows and trust me, they're sick! They're honestly some of the best guitarist you'll meet, serious. This fusion is sick, try get yourselves out here and come see a couple shows man, they're heavy 👍🏾
Phenomenal, I would’ve never thought of adding beats to a flamenco song. I also love seeing the process. Amazing to see you create music with a musician in real time.
The problem isn't the volume of the click but the measure... Flamenco usually has /6 /12 measure with very particular accent related to "palos" (Alegrias, Bulerias, Seguirillas, Rumbas, Soleares... that could go even deeper with Soleá por Bulerías mixing part of one Palo into other). It's possible to adapt those rhythms into 4/4 with what's called "Amalgama" (translated into something like "amalgamation") with taking the "weirdest" part of the rhythm (weirdest in the good sense but hard to adapt into 4/4) and mix with other Palo accent or even directly rhythm. To put some light into this Gibberish... first of all think in 2 parts of the same /12 measure A6/12 B6/12 then check the accents and try to fit different A6/12 part from another Palo which has the similar accents to the Original B6/12... makes sense?
Obviously if you understand these rhythmic patterns to a point you can "play" over there you can re-adapt those accents into your own amalgamas to fit regular 4/4 BoomBap style.
Another problem is Flamenco comes from Singing later into Guitar later into Cajón (even Palmas were there from the very beginning AFAIK) and historically Guitar Player should be who follow the Singer (el Cante) instead opposite. I know... it's nuts but it how it goes... So usually the Flamenco Musicians (and Dancers) develop an inner clock based on knowing each other and play the same patterns on an on to a point any of them can anticipate (or swing late drop) those accents making it so rich and spontaneous but at the same time so hard to implement "as is" into electronic production.
For the good luck of any reading until this point I will point (lol) some resources to understand all this gibberish. First of all (or the latest) search for Solo Los Solo - Retorno al Principio. You will find an amazing (and underrated) work on implementing Flamenco the right way into HipHop. Another interesting resource will be Triana - Abre la puerta niña where you will assist to a Flamenco Rock masterclass to see those patterns exported from the traditional Flamenco into Psicodelic Rock from the 70's and finally if you want to get mindblowed search for UHF Ultra High Flamenco "anything" to reach one of the most advanced musicians perfoming like Free Jazz with Flamenco Roots. There are a lot of other references such a Chano Dominguez (Flamenco Jazz), Lole y Manuel (Flamenco Rock), Enrique Moriente (Fusión), Pata Negra (Flamenco Rock) with Raimundo Amador (Guitar Player BB King's friend...) and so many more.
I hope this helps others and please take it as a grain of salt not being myself and expert more than "aficionao" but with enough open mind and electronic HipHop producer background to point what in my humble opinion should be taught at Flamenco Fusión schools (if someone ask me)
Paz, Amor y Alegría compareh!
GOOOOD THAT'S WHAT WE NEEDED, NOW WE NEED A PROFESSIONAL ORGAN PLAYER
OCEAN YOUARE A GENIUS I PLAY FLAMENCO FOR 5O YEARS AND WHAT YOU DO IIIIIIIS GREEEEEEEEEAT YOUR ARRANGEMENT THANK YOU
That Perc that the Spanish guy added, hooooo. Hola Amigos! Don't overlook it. We gotta praise that
as a flamenco player, this guy is an awesome master
Thanks! 🙏
Been waiting for this one
Fire🔥
This was sick, I love how into it the guitarist was, sharing about the claps and adding the crazy textures! More flamenco with him for sure!
This insane! Fav vid of yours 🌊 gang
The beats are amazing bro the fact that you got a Spanish flamenco guitarist to Collab with u is crazy keep it up.
the guitarist is just insane
That second beat was so sick, and brilliant guitarist + producer combo!🔥
These guys made great music effortlessly
This has to be one of your best sessions g
you gotta get an oud player next man, it'd be epic.
I didn’t expect the guitarist to get in the drill vibe like that lol he started going in with the claps
That'a very nice try actually! I'm a Flamenco musician myself and have been eager to perform in a more "actualized" fashion for quite a long time. this will inspire me to
9:04 when he realizes the camera is on him he starts bopping his head like ocean, lmao love rhe guy😂
I like that you’re trying new cultural influences!! Flamenco was definitely a great choice💃🏻✨
Ocean como productor sevillano que soy solo puedo decir insane combination!!!!! necesito massss de esto bro!!
Loved that, learning flamenco myself from Mexico!
That 2nd beat was so nice man
2nd beat so fire 💯🔥🔥 could you drop the full thing? I vibe with it, keep it up ocean!
This guitar Player is insaneee
All the flamenco artists, and they are a lot, are so talented that's crazy
I love this collab. This is what music is about.
The second one was huge🔥🎶
the spanish guy killed it
Those beats were so nice, he said that himself; This is proper sounding stuff man
This might be one of the best ones yet 🔥
Bro your video concepts are fire
Love these vids ocean 🌊…love them…
Viva España 🇪🇸!! Ocean you are amazing!!
Watching u level up over the last couple years has been insane 🫡🔥🔥🔥
Bro this has to be my favourite vid when you collabd with a musician. Dope ASF 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 would have love to see you flip it to an Afrobeat/swing banger (first beat) but 2nd beat is flawless
fire dudee big ups to the flamenco master piece of historyyyy
these two guys are absolute heat man
From Spain, you need try introducing "quejios" on this base...
That 1st beat...Been a while since I got goosebumps while watching a production video
Always so 🔥🔥 gettin cozy in the new Stu I see 💪🏼
Bro’s hands are BLUE
that second beat is disgusting bro 🔥 always levelling up
This is definitely one of the coolest you've done. Love the flamenco sound.
Yooo Those claps OG put inside though🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
The beat too🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Bro conectas increíble con el flamenco
Bro u link genuine with flamenco
both niiiiice!!! But 2nd one was reeeeeally niiiiiiiice
Good job! Really dope video!
If you know flamingo, you know the guitarist usually have a beat machine in his head somewhere, they love the chaos
this gotta be the best one frr frr
The guitarist seems like such a nice dude
Congrats for this video, it was so cool to see you involving flamenco into beatmaking.
Cheers from Seville big up bro
VIVA ANDALUCIA,VIVA SEVILLA,VIVA EL FLAMENCO Y VIVAN TUS BEATS
oleee taranta beaat
This guy did a collab with Hamza Namira that video was awesome !
4:17 yo the brotha’s cold
U made him smile thank u
Grande Ramon ostia! As a Spanish kid I love the fact that you brought someone so talented just as you are to de stu. Age means knowledge. Love ya Ocean, and awesome beat🤙🏼🖤
That was really good. I want a 24h playlist of this kind of stuff, like the Lofi Girl channel.
mann get this guy back in the studio for another collab
the second is fuego!
Imagine hiring all the instrumentalists and making an orchestral beat
As soon as I heard the initial drum pattern, I knew it was gonna be fire🔥🔥🔥
Your content is always fire an interesting bro keep it up💪🔥
i do not understand any of this but i do like to see people hired. a job is a job.
as soon as I saw the name Ramon, that was it.
The percs go crazy!
That's the grandpa everyone wants to have
That sht sounds great 🔥
9:00 homie gets caught not vibin 😅
That came together so nice
Love it 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Guy: "I need a louder click" Ocean: "Okay I'll turn it up" Ocean: doesn't turn the click up.