This is a Tank Meta counter build. You can't go this build EVERY game, but it is good if you don't know what to do for APC Seraphine! It has given me good results so far, goodluck!
Agree,I tested it and I only use it when I see 2 or more tanks,other time ConqBurn with tear is my choice due to still a lot of champions against me who can burst my health
I generally will not promote enchanter builds due to the lack of carry nature in APC/Mid. Despite being viable. I try to cater my content to low ELO or below Master players :) Enchanter build I will be testing next week, most likely will only suggest it for high ELO players though
It's so great to see your Seraphine back! Honestly every time I watch any of your gameplays I get fired up! I haven't play much sinced the split started, so I can't wait to test this build myself ♥ great video as always Odi!
I still wonder how viable she is as an entrantress sup, I feel her shield is indeed a bit overnerf with the high CD but not as bad as people make her to be.
Still her "best" support build is an enchantress for her budget that she can afford. Remember, longer fights mean more chances to use WW. She is definitely nerfed but id still suggest it for jow
You should try a build I go for (d1 euw player), u go aery/second rune page revitalize + the one that reduces the dmg u take. You go 1 adaptive, one haste. Blackfiretorch/lucidity/archangel/staff of flowing water/Dawncore/moonstone. Max qwe, u have a good early and u scale into late game with double w, so good !! try it
@@odirodi Thank u ! I keep winning with it, its so good, u have so much haste, infinite mana, good waveclear from beginning to the end, kill potential early/mid with torch archangel while still having the broken double ww for late game. its so good lemme know if u find it good ! have a nice day
I have a question, this is a situation I often find myself in: I’m playing seraphine support and my team isn’t doing great. The only ap in the is basically the same as nothing at this point of the game do I start building some ap or keep building support?
I would consider playing Seraphine APC if you want to carry. If you want to play support go full Supportive. AP is very hard to afford. I would consider Rylais
also, im a bit new to league / seraphine. i see a lot of guides and video's where people say "double q", what does this mean exactly and how do you double q? when in game i can only q once, or is it because of your passive that makes you double q? sorry if this is a stupid question lol
We do not run out of mana since we still take PoM + Manaflow. I tend to get a faerie charm right after I complete Torch, Build goes, Torch, (Faerie Charm) Liandry, Mandate, we get infinite mana with this setup and scale pretty hard. Currently reached Master with this build shown here!
@@odirodi tysm! I used to love sera mid a long time ago but she feels a bit meh there lately so Ive started running her apc. Feels better but I felt I could be doing more damage. Excited to give this a try! (Ive been building torch > seraphs > liandry) Do you sit on the faerie charm until mandate? Do you ever sell it if it can get your liandry complete?
If the enemy is squishier then yes. But unfortunately Raw AP doesn't work as well vs High HP enemies. Currently not using Conq setup even though you are absolutely right
Easier to farm with allies (support) mid matchups are generally harder too since they outrange or have immediate kill pressure on us. Still works, mid is just more difficult to play
I don't understand the conqueror build, I can't see how it can be good on seraphine, how precision can be good first runes for mages. I do feel it's harder to proc and losing poke/dmg. Helps pls :D
Conq gives ap Everytime you use an auto or spell. Using QQ or EE gives you 4 stacks of Conq. Precision tree gives EVERY rune that we want on Seraphine. Aery is good for poke, Conq is better for longer fights and giving raw AP stats. Remember Conq build is good because we take torch and DCap. The AP that conq gives gets bonuses by Torch % and DCap % turning our +40ap to +100 or more in fights. It's pretty good, but I prefer this build in the video vs tanks comps
It's good but in this current meta there are so many people rushing heavy HP and Resistances that raw AP is only good vs squishy champs.. Conq is definitely still fine(requires Manaflow) but again, Liandry and Mandate both do not work with Conq AP. Conq requires Torch and DCap. I prefer spamming spells and dealing %dmg
i feel like they went too far with the nerf and tbh i think she's dead winthin her designated role . I mean if the best sera build is to go damage then i would have have better results with syndra omg
This is a Tank Meta counter build. You can't go this build EVERY game, but it is good if you don't know what to do for APC Seraphine! It has given me good results so far, goodluck!
Agree,I tested it and I only use it when I see 2 or more tanks,other time ConqBurn with tear is my choice due to still a lot of champions against me who can burst my health
Hey can you sugest what build should be better if they don't have 2+ Tanky/hp and they are mostly squisy?
You can go a more bursty build or typical ConqBurn
Honey, what about the enchanter build, with all those new changes on enchanter items?
I generally will not promote enchanter builds due to the lack of carry nature in APC/Mid. Despite being viable. I try to cater my content to low ELO or below Master players :)
Enchanter build I will be testing next week, most likely will only suggest it for high ELO players though
%hp dmg items is the play. Good to see you back doing Sera content Odi!
Thank you for the feedback and kind words :)
It's so great to see your Seraphine back! Honestly every time I watch any of your gameplays I get fired up! I haven't play much sinced the split started, so I can't wait to test this build myself ♥ great video as always Odi!
It's good! Best of luck and thank you for your kind words Kannsaz :)
Love to see you back! Thxs for the content 😊
Thank you for your kind words!
i'm still on a sera break bc burnout, but i got her in aram and this build was super fun :) hit a big ult and got a penta!
Very fun! Well done
I still wonder how viable she is as an entrantress sup, I feel her shield is indeed a bit overnerf with the high CD but not as bad as people make her to be.
Still her "best" support build is an enchantress for her budget that she can afford.
Remember, longer fights mean more chances to use WW. She is definitely nerfed but id still suggest it for jow
You should try a build I go for (d1 euw player), u go aery/second rune page revitalize + the one that reduces the dmg u take. You go 1 adaptive, one haste. Blackfiretorch/lucidity/archangel/staff of flowing water/Dawncore/moonstone. Max qwe, u have a good early and u scale into late game with double w, so good !! try it
I'll give it a try!
@@odirodi Thank u ! I keep winning with it, its so good, u have so much haste, infinite mana, good waveclear from beginning to the end, kill potential early/mid with torch archangel while still having the broken double ww for late game. its so good lemme know if u find it good ! have a nice day
@@runwig546:0 is there a wildrift version ?
I’ve had a lot of success as apc with Seraphs, helia, moonstone, SoFW, dawncore build, you can achieve 10sec W cdr paired with legend haste
I'll have to test this! What ELO is this mainly in?
@@odirodi emerald
I have a question, this is a situation I often find myself in:
I’m playing seraphine support and my team isn’t doing great. The only ap in the is basically the same as nothing at this point of the game do I start building some ap or keep building support?
I would consider playing Seraphine APC if you want to carry.
If you want to play support go full Supportive. AP is very hard to afford. I would consider Rylais
@@odirodi ooh okay 👍 I just played a game here and won bc I remembers to tell adc to push yay. I was considering if maybe become mix build
You did not actually link dmg meters at the end of the video. Curious to see the numbers by comparison with other team members.
41,370 second most on my team, Camille did most, I outdamaged entire enemy team and my team. Tied with Zac
also, im a bit new to league / seraphine. i see a lot of guides and video's where people say "double q", what does this mean exactly and how do you double q? when in game i can only q once, or is it because of your passive that makes you double q? sorry if this is a stupid question lol
Every third ability Seraphine uses copies itself. So QQ (double Q) is just timing it with our third ability. Hope that helps!
whats your recommended build for seraphine support this season? :)
Kitty build on my discord!
We don’t have black fire torch in wildrift. It is a tank meta what would be swapped?
Seraphs maybe? Idk the items in WR
3:19 no fancy ok girlies?
LOL
without a seraphs, do you have to be very careful with mana usage or do you just spam abilities after lost chapter and into late game?
We do not run out of mana since we still take PoM + Manaflow. I tend to get a faerie charm right after I complete Torch,
Build goes, Torch, (Faerie Charm) Liandry, Mandate, we get infinite mana with this setup and scale pretty hard.
Currently reached Master with this build shown here!
@@odirodi tysm! I used to love sera mid a long time ago but she feels a bit meh there lately so Ive started running her apc. Feels better but I felt I could be doing more damage. Excited to give this a try! (Ive been building torch > seraphs > liandry)
Do you sit on the faerie charm until mandate? Do you ever sell it if it can get your liandry complete?
why dont use conqueror against tanky champs in longer teamfights?
If the enemy is squishier then yes. But unfortunately Raw AP doesn't work as well vs High HP enemies. Currently not using Conq setup even though you are absolutely right
is there a reason these apc builds dont work as well mid
Easier to farm with allies (support) mid matchups are generally harder too since they outrange or have immediate kill pressure on us.
Still works, mid is just more difficult to play
I don't understand the conqueror build, I can't see how it can be good on seraphine, how precision can be good first runes for mages. I do feel it's harder to proc and losing poke/dmg. Helps pls :D
Conq gives ap Everytime you use an auto or spell.
Using QQ or EE gives you 4 stacks of Conq.
Precision tree gives EVERY rune that we want on Seraphine. Aery is good for poke, Conq is better for longer fights and giving raw AP stats.
Remember Conq build is good because we take torch and DCap. The AP that conq gives gets bonuses by Torch % and DCap % turning our +40ap to +100 or more in fights.
It's pretty good, but I prefer this build in the video vs tanks comps
@@odirodi oh wow I see now makes so much sence ty very much for explaining it :D
what about supp builds
Kitty build on the discord!
why no conqueror?
It's good but in this current meta there are so many people rushing heavy HP and Resistances that raw AP is only good vs squishy champs.. Conq is definitely still fine(requires Manaflow) but again, Liandry and Mandate both do not work with Conq AP.
Conq requires Torch and DCap.
I prefer spamming spells and dealing %dmg
Is this bulid viable on mid?
Yes!
i feel like they went too far with the nerf and tbh i think she's dead winthin her designated role . I mean if the best sera build is to go damage then i would have have better results with syndra omg
I'll be discussing this tomorrow. Kinda sad tbh
commend u for still playing this champ, shes just so boring to me now its sad those changes just killed the champ for me
She got hurt bad ye.. I took a break and I'm back and having success