Stop DEFENDING 70 Dollar Zelda Tears Of The Kingdom- The REAL Reason Why It's 70 Dollars
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- I have noticed a lot of people are defending The Legend Of Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom costing $70. They claim it is out of necessity or that it is okay because it's Zelda giving no other reason. I am here to showcase why there is no need for it to cost $70 and the real reasons why it does.
The worst part of this is that people are forgotten that Nintendo almost never put their games on sale, so five years later and this game will STILL be $70.
Not to mention this game isn't for a next-gen console, but for the Switch, so I don't know why people are trying to justify the $70 price tag (And in Canada it's $90 WITHOUT taxes)
Development costs are not the only factor. There's also the cost of the media in which the game is shipped. Even if Tears of the Kingdom was cheaper to develop than many PS5 games, the game is shipping on 32GB cartridges that are more expensive to manufacture than Ultra Blu Ray discs.
@@stefanklietsch5500 here have a tissue to wipe all that Boo off your face.
Because if you use the next gen excuse you're not saying that a game price should be justified with its quality, development costs, process time or anticipation.
You're saying that a value of a game should be justified with graphics, so basically any game as long as it comes out with 4k60fps is justified to cost more even if it's a shitty unfinished one.
@@somethingelse4282 price isn’t entirely linked to graphical fidelity but it does play a role. Most “AAA” games are groundbreaking for a longer period of time after their release, either graphically or in some other mechanical advantage they bring to the table.
That being said, way to miss the bigger picture. While you’re arguing about what “justifies” charging a 17 percent increase for the same product, Nintendo is crying inflation as an excuse to do this. People are so blind they don’t seem to understand that big corporations doing things like this with their pricing IS what contributes most to inflation. Your dollar is worth 17 percent less to them now, and if you think a year from now (or maybe less) that they won’t apply this pricing to every single game currently priced at 60 USD then you’d be so wrong. Nintendo pretends inflation doesn’t exist when it comes to their games, then it suddenly exists again when they want to use it to lie to their consumers and hike up the price at an insulting rate THEY cannot justify with any statistics.
People can justify it or complain.. but if you want to play it either pay up, or buy second hand. Period.
Remember when Nintendo fans were making fun of $70 games on Xbox and Playstation, and now there defending $70 because Nintendo.
Also take into account that Playstation and Xbox games go on sale way more consitently then Nintendo games
Happens all the time. "They won't do DLC!" "They won't do season passes!" "They won't do mobile games!" "They won't do paid online!" "They won't do endless ports, remakes, and remasters!"
So on, and so on...
@@y2commenter246yea, honestly I started to become skeptical of ssb4 DLC around the time ssbu came out. I refuse to believe those characters took that long to incorporate bc of “development issues.” Also the bayonetta leaked files…. she didn’t win no ballot.
And ssb4 online was free, allowed you to taunt and had the same input delay/lag problems. LOL at paying for 2 fighter passes and online, on top of the game💀
Man, I don’t want to even imagine a new Mario sports game that’s unfinished in the future costing $70
Then don’t buy it, I know damn well tears of the kingdom is gonna be goty so I don’t see why it being $70 is gonna be an issue
@@Waterypeanutbutter I don’t know about goty
@@nodzee97 it has alot of potential to be goty
@@GuY-ExE I guess… The reason botw won goty was because it was a breath of fresh air not only for the Zelda franchise but open world games in general. It also heavily influenced future games like genshin impact and sonic frontiers
I don’t really think there will be as many revolutionary things in the sequel.
@@Waterypeanutbutter it’s still bs regardless of whether you buy it or not
Of course there is a justification for the price increase - the fanbase is mostly consisted of 30 y/o childmen that would religiously defend any piece of software Nintendo publishes, AKA "because they can"
Well that and of course Nintendo can get away with it. Because shills will defend anything.
all companies also treat their users, at least nintendo is not hypocritical and does not justify the price increase due to the "increase in the cost of development", I will never believe that, for example, the re-release of Tlow ($ 70 / 80 €) was more expensive in development than Tlow 2 ($ 60 /70€) full-fledged sequel.
Games will always cost as much as the audience is willing to pay, the rest is an excuse.
@@АлександрТерехов-ж3й wdym they don’t justify the price due to increased cost of development/inflation? How else did they justify it?
The production value of these games isn't even that expensive. Nintendo games should have stayed 50 dollar.
Thank you SO, SO much for creating this video. Seriously. It absolutely astonishes me how many people go out of their way to swear extreme loyalty a multibillion dollar corporation that doesn't give two shits about them in the slightest.
I can understand defending a game. Because it kind of can stink seeing people hate a game you love. But what's there to defend here?! Are fanboys this daft?!
@@Demeech I think if this is a new standard for nintendo, that absolutely won't do, but over in britan, the first breath of the wild was 60 (70 in us) so for a while I didn't understand what was going on, so I was prepared for this
I feel like the 700 hours I've put into breath of the wild is enough for me to say I'll do most likley the same for tears of the kingdom, but if this is a new standard for nintendo, they need to be stopped
Also if you wanna talk about hating a game you love I think mario oddessy is only a 6/10
(OK that's my heavily bias opinion I understand it's objectively a 9 or so)
@@Demeech Companies also need to stop defending microtransactions for everything in a game
@@Demeech Omega Copium. They all know it sucks, but they'll shill $70 anyway.
virg/in/cel consolesimps are the worst
It's okay Doug Bowser blocked me cause I complained about the 70$ being anti-consumer lol I didn't say anything rude no cuss words or anything like that just speaking the no correction he blocked me after I tagged him and retro studios and praising Metroid Prime remastered for one running flawless on the switch while still somehow looking better than ever before lol so I don't know either he can't handle criticism or hates Metroid Prime I don't think which lol.
Real fact: Doug Bowser does not make those decisions, it's Nintendo of Japan
In Europe Breath of the Wild has always cost 70 euro, 10 euros more then other Nintendo games, and it's the same case with Tears of The Kingdom, so technically there is no price increase in Europe, but Zelda was always more expensive here
This was such a well articulated video, you went over every talking point possible as well as really bringing to light how anti consumer Nintendo’s been since the leadership change. I really wish people would just stop eating up whatever they put out, I really miss the quality of games Nintendo used to put out :/
Me too man. I do feel it was a bit more aggressive than usual, but I can't see why fanboys defend this nonsense.
@@Demeech Unfortunately the slippery slope does not lie. I'm fairly certain we'll not only be seeing more rushed out games but full on EA levels of mtx, and considering a large number of their playerbase is kids (who are not going to know better), they're gonna make hella bank off of $70 games as well as mtx, dlc, etc.
@@Demeech this was agresive?
as someone who saw your lore video's this feels calm. i guess you're not the same anymore too huh
@@Demeechas for tears of the kingdom, you can’t say if it’s not worth that price until it’s actually released. Who knows it might actually be worth it? But until then, to me, this just seems to be complaining over something that isn’t a problem just yet.
I’m sure Nintendo is done with the free update crap for some of their games considering it didn’t financially work out too well.
Futakawa and Bowser are truly the worst combination of “leaders” that Nintendo has had in recent memory. I’m afraid that that hubris will come back to bite them in the behind once again. They have been resting on their laurels far too much over the last few years and riding high on the hog, relying far too much on reissues and nostalgia. I foresee them coming up faints a brick wall very soon. I sincerely hope I’m wrong. Somehow, I doubt it though.
The amount of money Nintendo stands to lose from people who won't buy this game because of the price is far, far outweighed by the amount they'll make by having $10 more per copy. And this is probably the case for TotK more than any other game they could do it with- pretty much everyone who was already going to buy this game is still going to.
Strange bc 60$ in 2017 was worth more than 70$ today. But k.
seriously, nintendo just wants next gen prices but is too lazy and cheap to actually make a next gen system. thats the REAL reason
tears isnt costing them way more than the least zelda, IT LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME! IT LOOKS LIKE BOTW DLC! graphics look exactly the same, its using the exact same player/enemy models from the last game! they just added that lil floaty skyboard vehicle and whatever else theyre not showing, but everything ive seen is the same crap i seen in the last game!
they added sky islands
The fact the Switch hasn't seen a price drop despite how long it's been out (or the fact that they released the OLED upgrade) is part of why I still don't own one. I really do want some of the games on it (AC:NH, LoZ:BotW & LA, and LM3 being the top of my list), but the complete lack of sale options really does prevent opportunities to get my hands on the system. I do most of my game purchasing through Steam Sales and Humble Bundles because that's what I can afford, and Nintendo products rarely go on sale at all.
The hilarious thing is that they can't even justify the price with how big the game is since they refuse to show us just how much bigger and unique totk is compared to botw.
All of the trainers have been more cryptic than a girl I dated back in highschool
Nintendo has officially confirmed that Tears of the Kingdom will be over 18GB, compared to Breath of the Wild's 14GB. This means that the game is too big to fit on a 16GB cartridge, so Nintendo needs to ship the game in more expensive 32GB cartridges.
@@stefanklietsch5500 Why is the digital version also 70 dollars then?
There is an argument that it isn't a good thing to spoil a game that much anyway. BOTW showed a lot, and even then it still had a lot of surprises. I understand why TOTK wants to hold back more to experience the game themselves.
@@AnAmericanMusician Nintendo evidently has a policy of generally matching digital prices to physical prices, although that's a legitimate target for criticism. There are third-party publishers that allow digital games to have lower MSRP and deeper sales than their equivalent physical editions.
That being said, Nintendo did soften the blow of the Tears of the Kingdom price hike by making the digital game eligible for NSO vouchers. So you can get the game cheaper digitally than physically, if you have Nintendo Switch Online anyways and buy another first-party digital game as well.
I'm also surprised Nintendo didn't go full $60 on the Metroid Prime remaster. But since the Metroid franchise isn't well known (like Zelda is) maybe they thought a softer introductory price for new fans was better, to hook them then hit them with $70 Prime 4.
Or maybe it's because Tears of the Kingdom is the most worked and anticipated Switch game and its crazy how you're comparing the two
@@somethingelse4282 shit still shouldn’t be 70 dollars
@@DrOrr Inflation still exists tho
Metroid dread was 60$ tho shit argument budy
@@gameplayxtreme3389 not an excuse. GOW5 was 60$ on PS4.
By the way, this is the month after the Wizards of the Coast OGL 1.1 controversy which had people say "trust is hard to build but very easy to break." It was also a really greedy moment from WotC to do and the timing was apparently right for them with the upcoming One D&D edition to make a new and highly restrictive OGL that allowed them to shut down a person's license for arbitrary reasons and was also intended to make people have to pay Wizards of the Coast money if a company or person made over a certain threshold of profits from producing content with the OGL - a far cry from the previous OGL which didn't allow the company from profiting off content made based SRD content that WotC made, only D&D setting branded content due to it not being covered under the OGL.
That event shook the TTRPG community up and made people far more accepting of trying new games as a result of now believing the D&D brand as tainted and Wizards of the Coast as the bad company. Now people are trying other TTRPGs such as Pathfinder, Savage Worlds, Fate Core, Call of Cthulhu, and OSR products such as Lion & Dragon.
A game is worth what people are willing to pay for it. It's not about the work put in, or even the game's budget.
I could see if Nintendo wanted to go $70 for their next console if it had a good jump in power, but $70 for an asset reusing sequel on an old tech system? There's no defending that. It is simply Nintendo knowing they can get away with it, unless we hear about something crazy in this game that drove dev costs way up.
I have a Samsung S10 and I'm not upgrading until I have no choice, haha. I still use my old S4 as a media player.
Development costs are not the only factor. There's also the cost of the media in which the game is shipped. Even if Tears of the Kingdom was cheaper to develop than many PS5 games, the game is shipping on 32GB cartridges that are more expensive to manufacture than Ultra Blu Ray discs.
@@stefanklietsch5500 And? This isn't the first release to use a 32gb cart and none of the others have inceased the price, some of those games released over three years ago and the carts have only gotten cheaper to produce. It certainly doesn't cost Nintendo anywhere near $10 to produce a 32gb card over a 16gb one. A couple dollars at most, which they could easily eat.
There are no good excuses for this price increase unless there is some info yet to come to light.
games always cost what audiotoria are willing to pay, that's how pricing works. "Greater development cost" is just an excuse, I will never believe that for example Tlow re-release (70$/80€) was more expensive to develop than Tlow 2(60$/70€) sequel, completely new game
Remember when Nintendo fanboys bragged about not having to pay for online multiplayer? Remember when Nintendo fanboys bragged about Nintendo's games costing less than its competitors? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Remember back when Demeech only occasionaly talked about the fanboys and not almost every video he's made as of recent times?
I'm starting to think that time of his is gone at this point
@@Gold_Gamer_100 yeah, he is beating a dead horse at this point and in worse scenarios spitting takes that don't make much sense
@@annieskywalker9290 Remember the Switch Sports thing? That was dragged on for months. In fairness, it pretty much deserves all the hate, but still
Ohhhh, I remember! Trust me. There was a time when they were praised for "not succumbing to the open world fad" and "not spending 5+ years on one game." Nintendo fans are so disingenuous.
Nintendo did some things that make sense but Nintendo is really trying to stretch the bar too far this time.
1. No virtual console
2. $60 & $70 unfinished games
3. Pokemon dlc now being $35 and you still have to pay yearly for pokemon home.
Yeah Nintendo is no different than EA or ubisoft.
Honestly videos like this seem kinda pointless to me. Like I get that no one wants to pay another $10 for tears of the Kingdom, but there really isn’t anything we can do about it and making rants like this just makes more people mad online.
I feel the same. We can complain all we want, but I doubt it's going to result in much.
No not really, you always have to make people aware of things being wrong that a wider spread will know it
@@YauDerAllerEchte yeah, but knowing most people are gonna buy it anyway, it's not gonna stop anything from happening
I really agree with this. I couldn’t believe how the whole “The $70 is understandable!” And the “$70 is unreasonable!” Has literally become a war. As long as I have fun, the games will always be worth it.
While I think it's justified for him to criticise TotK's price tag, I agree with the notion that there's not much we can actively do about it.
I mean, most people planning to buy the game are in the general audience, which doesn't defend the higher price tag; they just don't care much about it.
And it's kind of tricky to do anything about this stuff without being a jerk and dictating how other people spend their own money.
Let’s just be thankful that Disney didn’t help make Super Nintendo World, as if that happened, they’d probably charge you to go to the bathroom.
Restroom tokens
@@Demeech 😆They cost $10 and are only good for one use.
Also let's be thankful Illumination made the Mario Movie instead of Disney or Pixar because if Disney or Pixar probably would've been greedy and bought Nintendo if the movie was a success.
Let's be real: ever since Mr. Iwata passed away, everything went to heck with Nintendo... what happened to the free Wi-Fi service with actually cool perks and a proper Virtual Console where you pay for the games once and keep them forever? What about when Nintendo actually cared about what fans wanted instead of going their own way all the time? What happened to the Nintendo that went by the philosophy of "a rushed game is forever bad, and a delayed game is forever good." Or something like that? What...all I could ask is...why?
Edit: I heard news about how Reggie alledgedy partially planned NSO.
Probably cuz they lost a shitton of money in the 2010’s and are trying to recoup it and then some
Blaming his death won't make a difference, Also, don't just pretend everything was beautiful and pretty when both him and Reggie were still around. The Wii U failure, horrible marketing, terrible advertisements, Not everyone was able to get a Wii U, lack of third party games for the Wii U, DMCA strikes of their own, Mario tennis ultra smash and Star Fox zero. As a Wii U owner of my own *the past was never perfect* I'm sorry but it's true.
@@Vsauce596 Yeah as a Wii U owner of my own, the past was never perfect
Mr Iwata yes but Reggie did nothing and they only kept him around because losers thought of him as a funny meme
@@MyOtakuCorner People shouldn't be weaponizing his death though and just let the man rest in peace cuz this is starting to get ridiculous.
You want to play? Pay up
Nintendo, let’s charge $70 for the next Zelda game why? Because we can get away with it because our fan boys will support us no matter what.
Sega, introducing our secret weapon sonic frontiers. Which in some cases is actually better than breath of the wild how much is that? $60! Take that shit tendo.
Man, if Iwata wasn’t rolling in his grave before, he sure is now. I wonder what the breaking point will be for the mindless fanboys on Twitter.
Assuming there will even be one, that is...
gotta say it, with how many people are buying tears of the kingdom on release, we might as well be looking at 70-80 dollar games from nintendo in the future. sales are gonna be big, it's no doubt gonna win something at this years game awards, and is nintendo gonna think it's cause people love zelda and got it out of love for the series? NO, they're gonna see that people are willing to give them 70 bucks for a sequel that uses the same formula as it's first game
it is unlikely that each game will cost 70$, in Europe only three games cost a full price of 70€, smash, and 2 Zelda
They’re doing it because Every other company started doing it as well. The end.
I have not and never will pay $70 for any game. Will not help in the downfall of gaming.
"Shut up and let them take your money!"
- Nintendo shills
I don't see anything wrong with that, if people can pay for a game for $70, then that's their business, they have the right to decide how to spend their money
@@АлександрТерехов-ж3й Yeah, I don't really care what people spend their money on but I don't think Nintendo should be charging $70 for the game in the first place.
While I'm excited to get the game it costing $70 dollars does suck. Even Sony and Microsoft games shouldn't cost $70 dollars
Wow, I'm surprised you found a video of mine you agree with lol
It was immediately clear to me the second that this game was priced at $70 that the intention was just to follow what the competitors do to get more money.
Will Tears of the Kingdom be excellent? Most likely. But with this game running on the same engine as BOTW as well as running on aged hardware… There’s no way they priced it at $70 because it was needed. I bet this game took less resources to make than the $70 PS5 games. It’s clear that they saw an opportunity to milk more money out of consumers because everyone else was doing it, so they’re gonna see if $70 can be the standard for them now. And it’s gonna succeed because they put it on the game everyone was set on buying the second it was announced.
No doubt the next major 3D Mario game will also be $70. Same with Metroid Prime 4, and they’re gonna get away with it.
Just like how they got away with getting people to pay for online. They saw the competitors doing it, so they realized they could get away with doing the same while not even bothering with why Xbox and Sony make you pay for online. They didn’t improve their online service at all, it’s just a scheme to get more money out of consumers.
People need to stop defending this company for doing stuff like this. They do not see us as friends, they see us as wallets filled with cash, and they want to take that cash.
The development costs for Tears of the Kingdom are likely lower than for many $70 PS5 games. However, Tears of the Kingdom is shipping on 32GB cartridges, which are likely more costly to manufacture than Ultra Blu Ray discs.
Arguably, in Europe only 3 games cost 70€ full price, smash, BOTW, TOTK.
It is unlikely that 3d Mario will cost so much, Mario Odyssey in Europe cost 60 €
As far as pricing goes, games have always sold what people are willing to pay, no matter what.
t game development budget.
I will never believe that for example the re-release of Tlow (70$/80€) cost more to develop than Tlow 2(60$/70€) a real sequel
the worst mistake i ever made is to play nintendo games, and ignore how bad the company is
This is why I have such a problem with Arlos Video about this issue. His arguments for the increase become contradictory and completely subjective, all simply because he thinks TOTK or nintendo in general should be allowed to charge more because its the "industry standard" now. Like, no... nintendo cannot just up an decide to charge $70 for a game for a console thats been out for 6 years now. There is no excuse to upcharge a game for creativity, just because you think the competition doesn't put in as much effort despite the competition focusing in more graphical power, complete voice acting throughout most of its games, and different animation and art styles. Even if this were a valid case, why does that mean it's okay to RAISE prices? why the hell do people want to give a company more money or justify price increases for no reason other than because they like something they make? Why don't you just donate them the money or buy random stuff from the company you don't intend to use if you insist on giving away your money? Don't ruin it for everyone else just because you make poor financial decisions. The proper alternative to raising prices would be to drop/slash the price of low effort games that perform poorly or don't have the content to warrant its price and leave any other game that does at $60.
I'm not paying $90 for any game. Corporate greed will bite them. People will defend anything these day.
Okay so, people of the comment section, please enlighten me. What am I supposed to do? Boycotts will never work because it’s just a sTuPiD vIdEoGaMe. If I don’t buy it, I don’t get to play that cool new game. If I do buy it, I’ll be contributing to the 70 dollar takeover. What was the point of all of this if we literally can’t do anything about it?
Buy vouchers and pay essentially 50$ for it but only if you are interested in any other full price Nintendo game
Buy it second hand
Piracy my friend.
While I will still get Tears of The Kingdom when I am financially able to, it will be a physical copy on sale around the holidays. Also, I may be looking at selling off my copies of Sword and Scarlet in the far future when I am able to because I simply lost interest in them.
The worst part is no matter how much the game cost it's going to sell 50 million copy's by Christmas
😂😂very true those damn fans boys
@@ManhuaandMangaMaven most normal Nintendo fans or people with a switch know zielda and is one of the most successful game franchises, so it’s not fanboys that are gonna make the game sell good
unlikely, Zelda never got to 50 million sales, BoTV's 30 million is a record for the series
@@АлександрТерехов-ж3й it was a bit of hyperbole
Calling the switch a "souped up wiiu" isn't really accurate from an architectural standpoint. The wiiu, wii, and gamecube were all very similar (power-pc cpu, amd(ati graphics). The switch is completely different, built off of nvidia's tech, its closest console relative is the nvidia shield.
Power wise it is marginally stronger than the wiiu though, but way more power efficient.
Interesting to hear. Thanks for the info!
They're pricing it so high because they know they can get away with it because it's Zelda. They could price it at $200 and we'd all still buy it because we're all suckers. Why do you think the Pokemon games continue to sell well despite them being garbage nowadays?
Fun fact in europe BotW and Smash Ultimate were the only games costing 70€. Now TotK will follow suit with 70€ aswell.
Keep in mind normal switch games cost about 60€
The very interesting thing about this is that in the UK it's the same price as all other games, £60, and in other European countries tears of the kingdom is a standard price compared to other Nintendo titles. I'm not sure about other regions but as far as I'm aware it's only America where this game has jumped up in price.
I fully agree with everything in this video - it is clearly greed driving Nintendo's decision with this. The developers at Nintendo are Incredible but I highly doubt that this price hike is to give these developers a pay rise or anything meaningful, moreso to please investors when they see the figures this game will inevitably put out.
Actually this costs less than Botw.
60$ in 2017 is worth more than 70$ now
I got my copy sealed from Tesco for £49 like a month after launch
3:54 So its both 0 Teraflops yet its also 1 teraflop? It can’t be both sherlock. Also blaming Nintendo for GameFreak’s incompetence huh? Oh, I actually have a pretty simple explanation as to why Nintendo’s charging $70, they’re using 32GB game cards since TotK is over 18 GB’s, Nintendo almost never goes above 16GB for their own games (not including collaborations, or in house studio efforts). What happens? They already did try microtransactions, a couple times actually (Nintendo Badge Arcade as well as Team Kirby Clash Deluxe and Super Kirby Clash, not to mention Rusty’s Real Deal Baseball, which I count). Gotta love you blatantly ignore the 1 very real reason why Nintendo’s probably charging $70 and instead make false equivalences and strawmen
Or riddled me this, it’s possible that this game is being runned on an extremely expensive 32 gb cartridge and 32 GB cartridges are extremely expensive to make, especially when they have to print millions of 32 gb cartridges to make up for the demand. And there has infact been situations were nintendo does price things on a day by day basis, for example the new warioware game on the switch is going for 40 dollars after Nintendo asked consumers how much they would be whilling to pay for it through a survey. There had been two or three situations were nintendo charged less, one of the examples was not charging 60 dollars for a Metroid prime remastered port when they know they could get away with charging it, so Nintendo does infact look at things by a day by day basis. But it’s also a possibility that they are charging 70 dollars because they either know they can get away with it or because they want to test the waters. There are many reasons why they could charge 70. You have to be more open minded. Whether or not they are charging 70 because of the demand of tears of the kingdom while it being on a 32 gb cartridge we won’t truly know until the game releases.
Then how did other Nintendo Switch games such as The Witcher 3 get away with having the full game on the 32GB Game Card cartridge at $60 dollars while the new Zelda game has to be priced $69.99?
@@MatthewCenance because Nintendo wasn’t the one paying to print 32 gb cartridges. The one paying for that was the people behind the Witcher 3. And even then the demand for the Witcher 3 isn’t any where near as high as the demand for Zelda, it’s pretty obvious why they charged 60 for that. Because if the demand for it isn’t anywhere as high as let’s say a Mario or a Zelda then they won’t need to print as many 32 gb cartridges. Zelda however is a very large series, the demand for it is at all time high, and considering the fact that breath of the wild is currently sold at about 30 million copies sold then they would essentially need to make around 30 million 32 gb cartridges to prepare for the high demand that the game will get. It’s a no brainer why the Witcher was able to print 32 gb cartridges for 60 bucks. And while it is true that sequels never really outsell the originals I think it’s a safe bet that tears of the kingdom might be able to garner at the very least 80% of people who bought breath of the wild so we are talking about it selling around 26 million copies or somewhere around there. Also the Witcher 3 sold 40 million copies across “all platforms” combined. If we take into account how many copies the Witcher 3 sold on the switch alone at most it was probably around 1-2 million.
@@GodSlayer330 Don't you think that the projected sales of ToTK will recuperate enough to not have the buyer shoulder the perceived extra expense? I get the high demand, but does it concern individuals? Also 32 GB cards are cheaper now than years ago, that's how technology works with storage (Moore's Law).
I will at least credit you for highlighting important truths that very few channels mention: that giant corporations don’t have the best interests of the consumers and greed. Well done!! I would go further in saying that we should never normalize these expensive video game prices & never make excuses for inflation. All corporate greed! Inflation is supposed to be avoided. Not normalized. And lastly, I would argue TotK’s long development time is a good sign. Take into account maybe 1-2 years development was affected by the pandemic. Pretty sure it’ll be a meaty adventure full of surprises.
Nintendo could copy and paste music from large music artists, pass them off as their own, and people would still defend their actions
Demeech is the only news station I trust
People rise up. They don't even have a switch 2.0 yet!!!! This is not next gen for Nintendo. Wtf. They don't deserve sales. To show we need new current updated switch to justify the prices.
I've always been the belief that no matter how good TOTK or any game is or will be, they should never be 70$ at base price.
Budgets and scope be damned, it's their fault for putting all their eggs in one basket and trying to create the next GTA, Fortnite or GOW.
Most people are buying digital nowadays so printing cartridges and CDs shouldn't even be that much of an issue now with how much bank they make on their closed garden store fronts with their 30% cut.
Unbelievable what people are saying nowadays about budgets and such.
I don't want a massive game I'm going to have to pay up to 80$ to get a quality experience.
Price to performance doesn't just apply to consoles it applies to everything you sell.
I should be getting a lot for 60 and with how miserable AAA gaming has been for the past decade and a half it's astonishing how these companies are doubling down on trying to set a standard whilst making DLC and adding macro transactions on top of that.
Yeah the switch is the weakest gen 9 console which makes the whole $70 Zelda ridiculous? What’s next $80 Mario for Nintendo’s gen 10 console?!
I guess they aren’t charging 70 for new games, speaking that the new big 2d Mario adventure(A good one) is still 60
Games costing 70 dollars has nothing to do with development costs since most of the budget is for marketing purposes
They have been producing Android phones without a Micro SD Card slot for four years now? That can't be real!
Personally I think everyone supporting this video is a crybaby. It took 6 years and god knows how much effort to make this game and your all going to call Nintendo a thief? We all know that Nintendo puts quality before anything else when making their games. It’s how they’ve stuck around for so long!
This feels like beating a dead horse at this point.
Kind of? But $70 for a Nintendo game is still fresh in peoples' minds. I've always kept saying this too; the slippery slope never lies.
I recently got my first Nintendo switch. I must say the fanbase seems to be made up of some of the dumbest people I've come across of all the consoles. They justify being robbed and it's just hilarious. Why does a game from 2017 still cost $60? Also paper Mario just released. It is literally an old game and it cost $60 and people are also justifying it.... robbery. Lastly, this Zelda game cost $70. They are Triple A exclusives on Xbox and Playstation that cost less than that and are of much higher quality.
Thank you so much for talking about this Demeech, we need more Nintendo channels talking about this. Thankfully, I'm a casual Zelda fan, so I can skip over a Zelda game or two. I only buy one full price game a year, so I rather spend it on a game I'll really enjoy. I also buy games on a budget, so I buy games on sale on the eShop, GOG, and Steam (being a PC gamer, we get great deals on games). I love the Sonic series, at least if Sega pulled this, the games do go on sale from time to time.
Speaking of Sega, I'm looking forward to Samba de Amigo: Party Central, loved Samba de Amigo on Wii and wished I had it on Dreamcast. Very happy with the Direct for that game alone.
I hope Pikmin 4 is that game for you. And anytime! I'd rather have an opinion than free stuff from Nintendo.
ok but like
i haven't seen ANYONE defending this, just putting it out there
The zelda sub-reddits are defending it with their lives.
I didn't knew that This game ever existed bruh, but seriously 70 dollars IS stupid
Honestly for what the game is, yeah it’s worth it. I hate Nintendo as a company but for what they’ve made, it’s definitely worth it.
I am personally not bothered by this and think he is over reacting. If it was more then 10 then i agree with demmech that it is a scummy move but since its only 10$ i really dont give a crap. Plus i do agree with that one comment that if its too much your can just wait for a sale. I am not against this because its only 10$ increase. If it was higher than 10 then that would be my breaking point and i would agree with deemech but thats just my opinion. Also do not like demeech lied in his video title to get more views. He does not know why its 70$ and is just making gusses even if they are great gusses its still just a guess. Would have preferd if he said in the title why i think its 70$. Would have been better than lying that was scummy.
Eh, I figured it was due to the game exceeding the capacity of the standard Switch cartridge and was going to require a different production line and a more expensive cart.
No but you see, explaining that makes you a shill, because how dare you try to give nuance.
I feel like Demeech is so reactionary to anything Nintendo does that his opinions are always on the negative side, even if he doesn’t look further into how games are made and produced, even if it does kinda stink that the game is $10 more.
@@CamDaGR8X That's just par for the course for a lot of Nintendo youtubers and influencers sadly. A good chunk think they "deserve" the games they want to be given development priority or special treatment from corporations because of being "true fans" or "consumer loyalty", which is laughable.
Is it even sure that TotK will be the first game to be the biggest for the Switch, because it seems there are bigger games like Witcher 3 Wild Hunt for the Switch which apparently costs $60 right now, and that's 28GB in the cartridge.
Don't you think it's more likely they're just following other game trends of $70 games on other consoles and knowing they can get away with its demand?
If that's the case, then why TF is Nintendo still charging $70 for a digital copy of Zelda TotK?
You can take the "muh expensive 32GB cartridge" excuse and shove it, thank you very much.
@@heywoodjablome2767 price pairity is a thing. If the digital version would be cheaper, why even bother to produce the physical cart? Why not force everyone to download it? How about they just give you a one time use slip of paper that may not even work due to bots trying to forcibly generate keys?
I have to admit, when this was anounced, I bought the two game voucher for $100. I don't think I'd have bothered if this had been $60
exactly this. i'll happily trade a 50$ ticket for the 70$ game XD
And that's why they put the vouchers up for sale again right before they announced the price. Sure you get TotK for $50, but you don't own it. I'd rather buy the physical version for $100 than pay to download it a limited number of times. And you can see right now that Nintendo's not afraid of closing their stores! Anything unbought on the 3ds and Wii U eshops may be lost to time.
@@Daytonious i buy 99% of my games digitally so it doesn't phase me. but that is an issue for physical owners.
@@HezakHQ Good for you then! I just can't stomach paying so much for something I won't own. Especially when, on a modded console, there is literally no difference between a bought game and a pirated one. If that's the only way you'd get it to begin with though I suppose it's a good deal.
@@Daytonious What's the difference between digital and physical, really? If you don't uninstall it, they can't take it away from you... You could even have a couple of SD cards with the games installed and not having to swap them so often.
I'm sure, they even run better when installed locally..
In the direct they also released Metroid prime for only 40$ which had more effort than previous remasters which costed 60$. If this means that Nintendo will vary their pricing of each game then I’m fine having a 70$ game that they think is worth it if they also charge less for games they think aren’t worth it.
Agreed 70 dollars for Zelda I'm totally fine with if pokemon violet/scarlet for example were like 40 because that's what they are worth. None of this 70 dollar across the board shit though cause there are a lot of 60 games that ain't worth 60 dollars
It's not worthy for bigger Sony games, let alone for the underpowered switch
@@thatitalianlameguy2235 If you only think about graphics then yeah.
Ok but why didnt people say a thing when BOTW was 70€ in most countrys?
I think it's 60 bucks only in north America. Yet people still complain about totk
Now that I’ve played the game I can confirm that it is indeed worth the cost
At least in Spain, BotW launched at 70€, just like Super Smash Bros Ultimate, I thought it was like this everywhere
Same in the netherlands
Gotta love mentioning that WiiU point, when the article itself was made in 2015, before the writing was on the wall for the thing. Also mentioning Mario Kart Tour, which ironically stopped being as aggressive as before with it, but then again, gotta pretend to be a Nintendo fan when your just a hater. Okay, show me, show me proof Nintendo’s gonna charge $70 for more of their games
I wonder how our views will differ
Twinning with the bae
@@Demeech LMAO 💀
Couldn't agree more. I find it odd that the Switch is weaker than a PS4 and yet they're going to charge PS5 prices? Doesn't really make any sense to me, even if it is Zelda
Engine development costs are not the only factor in pricing. There's also the cost of the media in which the game is shipped. Even if Tears of the Kingdom was cheaper to develop than many PS5 games, the game is shipping on 32GB cartridges that are more expensive to manufacture than Ultra Blu Ray discs.
Yea $70.00 for a game that looks like a perfected GameCube game. No Nintendo I will NOT be paying you $70 for this game. I’ll wait for it to be a year old and used do you make zero dollars from me. If that game were $49.99 ide buy it and you would be getting my money. But nope just like Sonys $70 prices I’ve never once paid. And I will NEVER PAY $70.
My main guess why tears of the kingdom took so long well is kinda obious while I do belive it would take pretty long originally I belive it wasn't meant to be out somewhere in 2020 but you know with the start of the 2020's being the start of the 2020's that why it took very long to make despite having the assets from botw
Good luck convincing The BOTW fans to not buy a sequel to it or any other Zelda in that style.
Again. Didn't you pay 200$ for Kirby's extra epic yarn? Just to make a unnecessary video about it? If you did that then I really don't think you should be complaining about the new Zelda being 70$. Call me a shill if you want. I just think it's funny.
Tbh it is kinda funny in retrospect!
@@Demeech Are you aware that you can still buy Kirby's Epic Yarn for $40 on the 3DS Eshop by linking your 3DS Nintendo Network ID to your Switch account and then by adding funds via your Switch console?
Not that you wasted that $200 spent on a physical copy, as that copy will probably become even more valuable as soon as the Eshop goes down.
@@stefanklietsch5500 That's what I've been thinking! I did that awhile ago to get Pikmin 2. Maybe he doesn't know you can do that.
I have this theory that Nintendo priced Metroid Prime Remastered at $40 to create the illusion that they're ''compensating'' for the $70 price tag of Tears Of The Kingdom, knowing that their defenders will latch onto that and use it to defend the company.
Well, here TOTK is about $90 here
Thank you, thank you for showing us what a terrible company Nintendo has become, they're practices these past few years have been utterly disgusting, I genuinely miss the Nintendo that we used to have, it's genuinely amazing how low they've been going lately
I think it's even worse fanboys defend this shit
nintendo has always been greedy, remember when it was a monopolist in the 90s when it limited the number of games a year that other companies release
Majora's Mask came out in less than a year and even though has similar graphics, has complete variety in the world, the gameplay aspect, and even the graphics in certain areas, including a completely new soundtrack. The game released for the cost of a normal game at the time
Now contrast that to tears of the Kingdom, where it primarily looks exactly the same with the exception of sky islands and the underground section. Nothing too crazy was done and all the mechanics are roughly the same with a few added small features. Not considering all that, took 6 years to make this? I don't understand how that's possible when Majora's Mask came out in less than a year. And the asking price is pretty insulting. I'm actually tempted to just skip this one. There's a lot of positive reviews, but I really think it's more that people are trying to justify their buyers remorse rather than actually feeling like this was a completely worth it buy.
It took so long to develop because I'm going to guess that developing for the Switch has become a technical nightmare
Every game needs to run in portable mode at a certain level of quality, coupled with the fact that Zelda is a game that rivals a game like Red Dead Redemption 2 in its scope and physics I'd imagine that's quit an undertaking... its time for new hardware if Nintendo devs want to comfortably meet their vision
As someone who hasn't ever touched BOTW, and dislikes every Zelda game they've tried to play (1, 2, Link's Awakening, Majora's Mask, Ocarina of Time). Tears of the Kingdom is great, it's been a hot minute since a game has been able to keep my attention for more than a week, but I'm still playing it, and I don't think I've even halfway finished the main quest lines and have barely explored the sky islands or the depths at all so there's still a ton to do. I've been playing the game along with a buddy who recently 100%'ed BOTW and he loves it too, pretty sure he's played it more than me lmao.
Why do some people (you) have such a hard time coming to the conclusion that "hey, maybe people simply enjoy something I don't" (which is completely fine, you're allowed to dislike a game, that's how opinions work) instead of acting like the whole world is in on some scheme to deceive you.
Your excuse also might be the worst I've ever heard, have you been on the internet before? If gamers like to do one thing, it's complain about games, if people didn't think the game was worth it, mfs would be shouting it from the rooftops. I can't go through a single pokemon release without nearly every person online telling me how it's the worst game that has ever released, but you think millions of people would suddenly band together to lie about Zelda being good? (the game has sold 10 million copies lmfao)
Why do some options have to be so big?
This isnt ps5 or xbox game but nintendo 70 is sooo expensive 😮
There's still a chance that maybe Nintendo well drop the price in the future,but i can't denie that this is pretty ridiculus even for a very hiped game like this one
One of my friends said they pay 80 dollars for a game in latam, so if people wanna whine about games costing 60 to 70 dollars, then they can cry in latam boy.
Do you guys agree with him?
Yeah disappoints me too.
(Not that I care)
But of course, you realistically cannot stop stupid company things like this.
No matter how hard you try.
I honestly understand the 70$ price tag, but I don't want nintendo to think that they should sell an unfinished game for 70$ from then on.
TL;DW.
I can guarantee you it only costs $70 because it's likely the first proper game to use the highest capacity Switch card.
That cost has to be offset somehow.
All this speculation that they're just gonna start selling every game for $70 is frankly ridiculous.
Yea keep telling yourself that if it makes you sleep at night😅
Has anyone noticed how on the eshop smash bros and botw are cost 70$ I'm not sure about smash but I know botw has been like this since 2019
I haven’t played all the PS5 exclusives that I’m interested in yet, but I’d say the only game I’ve played that earned its $70 price tag is Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart. It was a great and fun 3D platformer, its visuals were excellent, and the DualSense was put to great use, with its triggers giving you an idea of how it would feel to use the weapons you use in game in real life. With tech like the DualSense and PS5, the $70 price tag can be justified if said tech is used to its full potential, but given how underpowered the Switch is, I just can’t see how Nintendo can justify the $70 price tag of Tears of the Kingdom, even if the game makes the most of the Switch’s tech. I’d argue Super Mario Odyssey does this, but that game was $60 and TotK is $70. I just don’t see this ending well in the long term.
Development costs would not be the only factor in price. Even if Tears of the Kingdom has lower development costs than Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart, the game shipping in 32GB cartridges would be more expensive to manufacture than the game shipping in the form of Ultra Blu Ray discs.
this aged pretty bad
@M2cool 🇦🇱 because the game is good
@M2cool 🇦🇱 I'd say tears of the kingdom.
Let's be honest most of us bought the game physically from whatever site would charge less than 60 bucks (i paid 57 for mine)
I miss when Demeech made entertaining retrospectives like the MK series. The fury routine was funny initially but now this onslaught of negativity just puts me off personally
I almost can't take him seriously anymore. It's bad enough he's doing this in videos, but on the fucking community tab?
That is too much
What if the reason why they made it that expensive is that they want people to use the voucher
exactly
In Europe, botw was 70 euros at launch and no one moved a war. Now it's like the apicalypse when totk Is gonna be 70 dollars in america.
Also, Nintendo confirmed the 70 dollars thing for totk will be a one time thing, and won't be the same for all the types of game up to no. I think i destroyed your video in just 2 sentences, but you're free to do what you are up to buddy
Did he even bring it up in the video?
@@Gold_Gamer_100 He did, but he doesn't believe that is a real defense because older statements like that were quickly made false within a year or two (10:01) so he doesn't believe most modern Nintendo games will be $59.99 anymore, but $69.99, if the new Zelda game succeeds (8:11).
@@MatthewCenance Oh good. Forgot he mentioned that (and bonus points for the timestamps, very nice)
Honestly the only game I bought and thought “man this game should be 70$” was elden ring and I bought it for 60$ and the game feels like I’m playing a full price game plus dlcs, there’s no way I’ll pay 70 bucks for an outdated Nintendo game even when I buy 60$ bucks games on my switch I feel scammed this is why Nintendo needs to catch up with times and engines to justify their price but they won’t because Nintendo fans live to be abused.
Nintendo is going to do whatever makes them the most money. Thats the whole point of a company. The only reason they would charge less is if the loss in units sold costs them more than the extra profits from the increased price.
Stop defending a money wolf company.
... he didnt mention games already being 70 dollars since the beginning of the switchs lifespan in other regions.
Here in México got a price increase since the mid 2000's because Nintendo changed from having official prescence in the country from handling their productos by a distribuitor, and another one in 2020 thanks to a new legislation that essentially is a price increase for Digital and online products.
@@annieskywalker9290 supposedly n64 carts were £55 to £60 here in the uk which is around 70 dollars, though this is just a google search so take it with a grain of salt
I now own a Virtual Boy. The console was expensive, and so are the games. At least with that console, the payment begins and ends at getting the cartridge. For $70 Switch games, paying full price for the cartridge is only the beginning. Don't think higher base prices means less alternative monetization. Get ready to see Nintendo take full advantage of their captive audience and introduce not just the usual season passes, but also gacha mechanics! Don't think they won't!
Oh nice! Which games do you own for it?
@@Demeech Mario Tennis so far. I grew up being a fan of the N64 and GBC games, and I've always wanted to play the first one on VB. I'm planning on getting Panic Bomber, Mario Clash, Red Alarm, Teleroboxer, and possibly more. I think it's worth owning the original hardware because the 3D effect can't be imitated well on an emulator (yet). It really says something about the current state of Nintendo when I'm gleeful to play the Virtual Boy compared to their new games.
Oh boy, you forgot Mario kart tour exists right?
Guys wake up! If we don't let them know this NOT okay it will only get worse!
It’ll get worse nothing we can do about it since fan boys exist
@@ManhuaandMangaMaven yeah, they're like a cult.
It’s only gonna get worse I’m afraid.
I will NEVER support 70 dollar games I’m buying either used or waiting for a sale
It’s because they have to use a 32 gig cartridge since the game is 18 gigs. Nintendo has already confirmed that this isn’t the new norm. Look at advancewars and Pikmin, those games are both still 60 dollars. On top of that Pikmin is coming out AFTER Zelda.
At least bluetooth audio sounds so good now to the point where a headphone jack is useless on a phone now
I learned the modern day equivalent of bits in this video ,Teraflops.
and you’re right I have always considered Nintendo the Disney of the gaming industry.
I'm still looking forward to this game (mainly because Breath of the wild is my 2nd favorite game of all time) but this should not be 70 dollars. First up, this game is already using the same engine as BOTW, So it's already gonna be a similar experience, and because of that, it probably could've been cheaper to develop for.
Also, when shills say "it's because of inflation!", that's not an excuse. Pikmin 4 comes out 2 months later, with what appears to be it's own engine, and that costs 60 dollars. But it's probably because Nintendo knows they could bank off zelda games, like with skyward sword hd & links awakening being 60 dollars.
Galaxy Big Brain thinking here! Game looks good, but it still reuses assets and we don't know much about it.
Development costs are not the only price factor. Breath of the Wild shipped in 16GB cartridges. Tears of the Kingdom has a larger file size and is shipping in 32GB cartridges, which are more expensive to manufacture.