World of Warcraft, Warlords of Draenor // The Danish National Symphony Orchestra (LIVE)

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  • Malach, The Angel Messenger
    (from Warlords of Draenor)
    The Danish National Symphony Orchestra
    The Danish National Concert Choir
    Mezzo soprano Tuva Semmingsen
    Duduk: Hans Ulrik
    Conducted by Eimear Noone.
    Composed by Eimear Noone
    In August 2018, The Danish Broadcast Corporation (DR) aired a concert entitled ”Gaming in Symphony” performed by The Danish National Symphony Orchestra /DR SymfoniOrkestret with The Danish National Concert Choir and various soloists conducted by Eimear Noone.
    The concert was hosted by the legendary TV presenter Jakob Stegelmann. The music performed was titles from a wide range of video games such as World of Warcraft, Assassin’s Creed, Call of Duty, Hitman, Final Fantasy and many more. Visual designs by Vertigo and Mikael Sylvest.
    Footage from World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor appears with permission from Blizzard Entertainment International
    Lighting design: Mikael Sylvest & Vertigo
    TV-director: Karsten Andersen
    Executive Producer: Nicolai Abrahamsen
    ”Gaming in Symphony” is an original production by The Danish National Symphony Orchestra performed and recorded in DR Koncerthuset in Copenhagen, Denmark.
    All rights reserved. DR2018.

ความคิดเห็น • 158

  • @eimearnoone5180
    @eimearnoone5180 5 ปีที่แล้ว +344

    Oh my beautiful Danish friends, you've inspired me so much with this performance - there is so much magic and emotion there. Thank you so dearly to Nicolai Abrahamsen, Tuva Semmingsen and the stunning orchestral artists of the DR. I loved every moment in your company, especially those on stage, Eímear xxx

    • @Malefictus1
      @Malefictus1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Great conducting aswell!

    • @Arcires
      @Arcires 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I went to one of the concerts - the last one held about "Gaming in Symphony", if I remember correctly.
      You and the orchestra did an absolutely stellar job. I especially loved the little talk you and Jacob Stegelmann had about your work.

    • @Cablesfish
      @Cablesfish 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Seriously Eimear!
      I think that not only is this track one of the most beautiful tracks made for gaming in general. The performance in August might also be the best performance of Malach i've been able to scrounge up anywhere on the internet. I feel priviledged to have been present when it was recorded.
      Thanks for enriching my life like this!

    • @JustDurgan
      @JustDurgan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Malach is one of the single most incredible works I've heard in any soundtrack. I was listening to the game version on TH-cam and this video came up. This performance brings it to a whole different level! Thank you!

    • @Wyldina
      @Wyldina 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are so intense and conducted this concert masterfully! I'm truly happy that I am able to watch this on youtube, so I don't miss the experience!

  • @johnrogan6419
    @johnrogan6419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +233

    Never heard this before, but then I am 75 years old, so I am not into gaming. But, I love this orchestra, so I listened. And was rewarded with a powerful, epic piece that I am enamored of. Thank you all AGAIN! Wonderfully done!

    • @hi-dg4wc
      @hi-dg4wc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      If you like this kind of music I'd recommend you listen to the soundtracks of the different expansions in the game World of Warcraft. Their art and music very very rarely fails to impress people.

    • @snikrdoodls14
      @snikrdoodls14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Another thing I would recommend is this same orchestra doing their rendition of the Halo theme. My absolute favourite so far.

    • @shathriel
      @shathriel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The OST of Warcraft really is beautiful to listen to, in the game it is there in the background and sometimes you just stop playing to listen, there are many play lists on TH-cam, the opening theme for Wrath of the lich king was over 11 minutes and sometimes I'd just listen to the entire thing before logging into the game.

    • @denispetinelli7161
      @denispetinelli7161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      John, you really need to lister "Wolf at the Gates". It's an incredible Epic Song. Alyzrasor theme too.
      These two are incredible strong.

    • @carpetclimber4027
      @carpetclimber4027 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's alot of extremely well done video game music these days played by full orchestras. Danish Radio Orchestra, Swedish Radio Orchestra, etc.

  • @MegaChickenfish
    @MegaChickenfish 5 ปีที่แล้ว +323

    WOD was full of problems, but as per usual, *the soundtrack was not one of them.*

    • @salmarwow
      @salmarwow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Raid related, yes. Questing was fun, zones were beautiful, soundtrack was fantastic. As I was playing slowly and took my time while leveling, I've really enjoyed WoD.

    • @nichtsistkostenlos6565
      @nichtsistkostenlos6565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      You can say what you want about Blizzard, but they've always been absolutely amazing when it comes to art and music in their games.

    • @carlosjohn5546
      @carlosjohn5546 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      best soundtrack*

    • @Gray-soul_81
      @Gray-soul_81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      WoW never had a bad soundtrack throughout all of it's history, imo.

    • @zijie-he
      @zijie-he 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd say the story line was funky and the behavior of everyone seems quite illogical.

  • @Menhtrol
    @Menhtrol 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    WE WILL NEVER BE SLAVES

  • @CraigStuartGarfinkle
    @CraigStuartGarfinkle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    My god! This is stunning. A big thanks to all who made this happen!

  • @kawythowy867
    @kawythowy867 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Wow. I mean...wow. Beautiful. I had NO idea this soundtrack was this good. Man I would love to see a concert with these talented people.

    • @DsiakMondala
      @DsiakMondala 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, this is from wow.

    • @ConnorNotyerbidness
      @ConnorNotyerbidness 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      World of Warcraft is known for having some of the best music in the industry
      Its (almost) always top notch

  • @MaRcElORegeton12
    @MaRcElORegeton12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Please make the Anduins theme, this is the best orchesta in the world

  • @layla_daemon7060
    @layla_daemon7060 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Ah, this brings back memories of the Auchindoun. Beautiful melody.

  • @LesDuffy
    @LesDuffy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    1:34 - 2:25 something very special indeed

    • @twilightabyss6607
      @twilightabyss6607 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Still one of the most moving pieces of any music for me

  • @cloudyCO
    @cloudyCO 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    First time hearing this, don't understand why there are tears falling .. they are so expressive

    • @dnldna
      @dnldna 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is a sad song for a sad story

    • @Zethraxxur
      @Zethraxxur ปีที่แล้ว

      These songs triggered a strong emotional response in me, making me tearing up. It was a mixture of fond memories when I as a teen explored this amazing expansion for the first time, and the longing for what it could have been and wasted potential

  • @i93sme
    @i93sme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Amazing. Another amazing performance of this piece was directed by Eimear Noone in Dublin at the Video Games Classic concert. At that concert I've seen people in their 70s that had no connection to the game music scene just enjoying it, and leaving the hall in awe. I just wish there was another take of that concert in Dublin or that DNSO would also perform here.

  • @Trkn
    @Trkn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Oh my god!!! CHILLS! I would so go to a concert with this and the cinematics in the background! Amazing performance!

  • @sezerrrz
    @sezerrrz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    so beautiful like the story of Wrarcraft

  • @philipptar4288
    @philipptar4288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Im sitting here crying, a 27 year old dude

  • @santiagobalea5936
    @santiagobalea5936 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Good job, my friends! Greetings from Galicia!

  • @СтоянКърджев
    @СтоянКърджев 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm left breathless, thank you so much for this beautiful piece of art!

  • @Irathion
    @Irathion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Blood Elf female conducts the orchestra xD

  • @ozoh8285
    @ozoh8285 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How the hell can YOU DISLIKE THIS!?

    • @Gareethtw
      @Gareethtw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Likely grumpy people who like being grumpy or something.
      It would be impossible to if you listened unless you viewed games in some hostile and unrealistic light so are potentially not capable of appreciating the music just due too that

  • @andrewfewtrell3983
    @andrewfewtrell3983 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The composer is fire never seen one with so much energy. I've seen her in the halo trilogy performance and she is amazing.

    • @Deltadivaix
      @Deltadivaix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Conductor. 😊

    • @Jammin237
      @Jammin237 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Deltadivaix She's actually the composer too.

    • @Deltadivaix
      @Deltadivaix 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jammin237 What??!! Oh wow, I didn't know that! Thanks for the info.

    • @Jammin237
      @Jammin237 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Deltadivaix I was surprised too. But sure enough, her name is on the composers list on my soundtrack!

  • @highvalue242
    @highvalue242 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    أفضل موسيقى وأفضل اوركسترا
    Thank you very much for this amazing orchestra

  • @kudoss23
    @kudoss23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Have played and loved wow for many years, and whilst Draenor was one of the weaker expansions, the music was absolutely incredible! This has become my ultimate favourite world of Warcraft song! The Danish orchestra is stunningly good!

    • @silvioantonio6952
      @silvioantonio6952 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wod music is one of kind gem. My fav by far!

  • @Chewy427
    @Chewy427 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh the conductor was one of the composers for Warlords of Draenor! My favourite expansion

  • @DaRKJeZ
    @DaRKJeZ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    hellscreammm i love u

  • @BenjaminPlaysRust
    @BenjaminPlaysRust 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Warlords of Draenor had the best music ever!!!!!

  • @SocratesBelmont100
    @SocratesBelmont100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Garrosh did nothing wrong!

    • @zonneto12
      @zonneto12 ปีที่แล้ว

      And so arthas

  • @kudoss23
    @kudoss23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m addicted to listening to this still 😆 it’s just so fricking good!

  • @denispetinelli7161
    @denispetinelli7161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm waiting an Orchestral Masterpiece for Wolf at the Gates.

  • @infolizard8441
    @infolizard8441 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So beautiful and epic. There is a story to uncover in this music.

  • @felipecarvalho6586
    @felipecarvalho6586 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    this is magnificent !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Carpatouille
    @Carpatouille 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm feeling dizzy and weak just listening to these symphonies, so much emotion i get from them, thank you for uploading these

  • @phoenixboyz
    @phoenixboyz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The mainstream media should take music from games seriously, they are under appreciated and always being overshadowed by music by singers or music from movies

  • @Protagonistish
    @Protagonistish 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One can say a lot of bad things about the expansion this music was composed for. But one thing that is true for it is, that it had some of the best music ever composed for a computer game..

  • @hisyamzein8512
    @hisyamzein8512 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't like this song, because my ears wanted to hear this song again and again

  • @Ptp5053
    @Ptp5053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This Orchestra with the Musik of Legion, Battle for Azeroth and Shadowlands would be great 😍

  • @i93sme
    @i93sme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    seen this performed in Dublin during the Videogames Classic concert, conducted by Eimear Noone. Amazing. Truly amazing.

  • @jacobh9487
    @jacobh9487 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow has lots of Nordic themed music. A natural fit for the Danish National Symphony

  • @Rawoosh1
    @Rawoosh1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have listened to this, and the other performances, countless times the last few years. Please make a performance again, I would do anything to be in the crowd of this!

  • @ardnasiasan5202
    @ardnasiasan5202 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    World Of Warcraft Orc Orgrimmar Humain Hurlevent Panda Foret Jade

  • @kpete9219
    @kpete9219 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tuva Semminsen. It doesn't get any better than this!!!!!

  • @zijie-he
    @zijie-he 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Make me chilly, thank you for the awesome performance.

  • @dnldna
    @dnldna 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Increíble interpretación! Un track triste para una triste historia! Guys you are amazing thanks for give me this

  • @christianjavier1776
    @christianjavier1776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Danish is on top right now. Assassin Creed new game, The Last Kingdom (Netflix; great series), Frozen ll.

  • @BlackDobbie
    @BlackDobbie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just WOW!

  • @Slaartibart
    @Slaartibart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    only 6 dislikes. good. glad to see only few people with bad taste in music.

  • @Ferenc-zc3ib
    @Ferenc-zc3ib 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Andre Rieu Racz Judit 😎🎻2024-11:48

  • @dianabundrick2687
    @dianabundrick2687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just came across this today. So beautiful, I wept.

  • @kevinobill4818
    @kevinobill4818 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2:46 that is just beautiful.

  • @Davew5183
    @Davew5183 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank god it's not Malukah singing this

  • @stefaz1270
    @stefaz1270 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When i was a kid, I wanted to be a musician of WoW, be a part of an Orchestra like that, or better, the composer... The Best Game with the BEST music.

  • @izeRacing
    @izeRacing 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loktha'r Ogar

  • @SLABONECHD
    @SLABONECHD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    la cinematica de cuando Hellscream vence a Magteridon es brutal

  • @cenkercanbulut3069
    @cenkercanbulut3069 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Come to Lithuania!!!!

  • @MrAmazingJeff
    @MrAmazingJeff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just listening to this is making me cry it's that good.

  • @siamionshakhalevich0
    @siamionshakhalevich0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Это замечательно!!! Спасибо за это видео!

  • @whiteeagleboneguard
    @whiteeagleboneguard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:18 Those two are the definition of vibing

  • @Ferenc-zc3ib
    @Ferenc-zc3ib 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2024: 10:29 Racz Judit

  • @ricardoz5714
    @ricardoz5714 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let me say, This patch, musics are better than game it self

  • @ciss5301
    @ciss5301 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    😭😭😭😭😭 Es tan hermoso!

  • @1SevenCirclesDesign
    @1SevenCirclesDesign 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can I have a FOR THE HORDE if you please?

    • @helderfonseca9926
      @helderfonseca9926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FOR THE HOOOOOOOORDE!!!!

    • @leosiry8334
      @leosiry8334 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For the alliance

    • @zonneto12
      @zonneto12 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't say "for azeroth" cause everyone that says that dies inmediately. Ask varian or saurfang

  • @giannisskokos
    @giannisskokos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just Great!!! Please answer me, what is the name of that woodwind instrument we see and hear during 0:16-0:19 ??? It has a sound out of tales and myths really!!!

    • @taskislaninmimari
      @taskislaninmimari 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      if 'im not wrong, it must be a duduk which is an ancient armanian instrument

    • @Midaspl
      @Midaspl 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@taskislaninmimari I can confirm it's duduk originally, but I have no idea what the guy shown plays at that moment TBH. Is that modified clarinet? I have no idea. The mouthpiece looks like from clarinet, but I'm not certain about the rest. Considering that on duduk you have to tighten or loosen your mouth on mouthpiece to produce that modulated sound, I'm not sure if you can do the same on clarinet.

    • @MrHerrJacobsen
      @MrHerrJacobsen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was just about to write that comment, ty for doing it for me:D

  • @margaretdunne1676
    @margaretdunne1676 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For all the Danes who are proud of theit orchestra there are as many Irish proud of your conductress Eimear Noone❤

  • @cademccole8609
    @cademccole8609 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Эх, вот бы в России проводили такие концерты!
    Даже симфонический оркестр исполняющий саундтреки от близард на близконе и рядом не стоял...

    • @doomfist4493
      @doomfist4493 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cagmo с Полом Ромеро дружат, по Героям исполняют каждый год

  • @Xurium
    @Xurium 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whoever does still not understand, why gaming means so much to young people, should look at the world, we have created around us and compare it to the wonders, WoW gives us to make us feel happy and epic. Start to make this world worth living in and we will live in it instead of gaming to flee it.

  • @HeedennPapermade
    @HeedennPapermade ปีที่แล้ว

    i wish my game story scene has this background music when the animation is playing! it was so touch and match the incident!! damn!

  • @boakingaccidents
    @boakingaccidents ปีที่แล้ว

    I may be in the minority here but I would love to see a live performance of the Wintergrasp music, the approx. 10 minute version with the main theme and oh my God, the calm sequence with chimes/tubular bells. It brings tears to my eyes every time.

  • @pronounce234
    @pronounce234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    From when "lai lalalal laila lalal aaa" is hotter than "In Excelsis, Precedo, Bellator, Decerte, Adversa, Incurro, Invadoria" ?

  • @ElMinister
    @ElMinister 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😶

  • @bobbelmouth
    @bobbelmouth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who is the one singing?

    • @JonasTDK
      @JonasTDK 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I believe it's Tuva Semmingsen.

  • @stuarthyslop7216
    @stuarthyslop7216 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The conductor looks like she's about to DPS the orchestra lolz awesome again, this when logging in would of been something else

  • @SolasComposer
    @SolasComposer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing orchestra here, really love it.

  • @DsiakMondala
    @DsiakMondala 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    who the hell is Danish? I dont remember that faction.

  • @alfredfoster147
    @alfredfoster147 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding production here........ Lighting and camera work are 2nd to none......

  • @venstom24
    @venstom24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what is the name of the conductor of the orchestra?

    • @jagto8444
      @jagto8444 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Венстом Стронджер Description says it all

    • @Benefacez
      @Benefacez 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      She's also the composer of this piece.

  • @MrPARKBRAU
    @MrPARKBRAU 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The conductor really gets into her work..... Great, Great

  • @ramiroromodurand8472
    @ramiroromodurand8472 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow que fabulosa orquesta.

  • @SLABONECHD
    @SLABONECHD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hellscream es el unico orco que me cae bien del juego

  • @hades4621
    @hades4621 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderfulll......thanks a lot

  • @JulioSantirachi
    @JulioSantirachi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so fucking beautiful

  • @Osiwan960
    @Osiwan960 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    WE WILL NEVER BE SLAVES !!!

  • @sashaproudmoore9053
    @sashaproudmoore9053 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I`m crying it is awesome. thank you

  • @Alaknight6
    @Alaknight6 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the Horde!

  • @lordtyrus1
    @lordtyrus1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW lore, music and animation always amaze me.

  • @ramiroromodurand8472
    @ramiroromodurand8472 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Se me eriza la piel.

    • @dnldna
      @dnldna 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Muy emotivo

  • @daidaruss
    @daidaruss 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    la mas bella obra musical jamas creada...

  • @m.b.5533
    @m.b.5533 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's really fantastic, thanks

  • @elaisagrace5232
    @elaisagrace5232 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    gotcha! 🔥

  • @laurarobledo2771
    @laurarobledo2771 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me emociona mucho!!

  • @romanshevelev5026
    @romanshevelev5026 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like 777

  • @MrHorimiya
    @MrHorimiya 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    FOR THE HOOORDE!!!!

    • @cedricfoucreau
      @cedricfoucreau 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is a draenei theme lol, but good try.

    • @iGottaRandomName
      @iGottaRandomName 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cedricfoucreau He could be quoting the conductor herself... As she acturally shouted this on stage when asked if she played the game herself.

  • @jobadvbl
    @jobadvbl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Großartig.

  • @fuitapeado3526
    @fuitapeado3526 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Épico, parabéns 💜

  • @chuchorrichi
    @chuchorrichi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    ¡Es Hermosa!

  • @adeelraza105
    @adeelraza105 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely rubbish this is no charity are they disgracing Warsong nothing connects with WOD.

  • @oedihamijok6504
    @oedihamijok6504 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WoW is The Elder Scrolls Online just with settings on low...

    • @storrentMC
      @storrentMC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      whatever you say bud

    • @slinttu1378
      @slinttu1378 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That's the dumbest thing i have ever heard.

    • @mightymouse5930
      @mightymouse5930 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      TESO is warm shit. Wow is basically in retirement now and still has competitive numbers. Also, you cannot judge the looks of a game based on how much it taxes your system. Wow has ALWAYS used real art to convey a message. TESO does like every other MMO that has tried to match wow; push the graphics. While TESO is probably the most successful of the runners-up, it will never match the historic success of wow.
      And, by the way, TESO doesn’t look that great, so I really don’t know what you’re on about anyway.

    • @spaceowl9246
      @spaceowl9246 5 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @Benefacez
      @Benefacez 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mightymouse5930 Unffortunately the times of "real art" are over in WoW now. They are going for a "realistic" style now due to heavy outsourcing in the art department. It really is a shame that they gave up on their unique art style just to try and be like everybody else.

  • @youtubeadsarecancer785
    @youtubeadsarecancer785 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    it was too good that i cringe while the main theme comes 1:38

    • @goatman86
      @goatman86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Are you sure you know what "cringe" means?