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- EngLot in Engfa's 29th birthday party
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Okay Im new to them and have been addicted to their story for the past week. As someone new, and I actually did "proper research" and also I study their body language. So here is my assumption.
1) P'Fa used to have a crush on Char, but at that time Char never see P'Fa as anything other than an older sister that she respects and care about her. Char is known to be "straight" and I feel like she still is. She said she is making exception for P'Fa however, since P'Fa is very secure and confident/proud of her sexuality, a girl like Char will definitely only cause more problem in her life if they were to date. Someone who feels secure in their sexuality will never date someone out of "curiousity/trial and error", especially with a girl known to be straight prior to meeting her.
2. When Char finally confessed to P'Fa, that was months after they already have known eachother. Throughout their friendship, P'Fa respects Char's sexuality and privacy and she knows if she were to do any advancement on Char, it would make both of them uncomfortable, especially to Char who knew that P'Fa did try to make a move on her before they became roommates. But she is still a good sister to Char and has always been treating Char good except she would set boundaries on their intimacy as that would trigger some fans reaction. Fans love it. But she wants it to be genuine. However, knowing that their every move is under scrutiny, P'Fa is definitely not comfy showing affection in public. And I feel like Char is also uncomfy with this initially. That was until she confessed.
3. Here comes the interesting part. When Charlotte confesses, P'Fa doesn't accept immediately. She proceed with caution as she knows that it might not work. If they were to become a couple, and they can't keep it up especially with the fans expectations, they might break up just months after that. But then, that will cause some turmoil in the fandom, as well as in their relationship. So P'Fa preferred that they wait, as they are slowly getting busier with work, and scheduling is packed that they might not gonna see each other for months.
And note that P'Fa might still feel cautios due to Char's insecurity in her sexuality. Even with that reason, a lot of people broke up, and hurt their partners along the way. If you put yourself in P'Fa's position, you would also thread lightly.
4. Fast forward to early last year, I think due to their distance and hectic schedules, Char has been seeing someone else (Sea Tawinan maybe). P' Fa is also probably seeing someone else too who knows. But their relationship as EngLot is sort of in a Limbo with no direction as both of their insecurities has not been solved. If Char wanna jump, P' Fa still has doubts. And if P' Fa were to jump, Char might ruined the relationship later. Don't kill me if I say this but Char is known cheater. She said it herself in Hello Engfa interview. This is also a strong reason for P' Fa to reject Charlotte, and leave their relationship as it is.
5. Now let's talk about the end quarter of 2023. Did you see how Charlotte tried so hard to serve the fans with moments and intimacy yet P'Fa was being standoffish about it? That might be contributed by the fact that P'Fa is starting to get annoyed that fans are pushing this ship to sail, and has no respect whatsoever with their friendship. She was acting that way probably because she doesn't want to sell intimacy to the media, for either one of these two reasons. One, because she no longer had romantic feelings for Char, and two, because she's afraid that Char is gonna use Englot to her advantage, knowing full well she is dating someone else. As for Charlotte, she is more open with her affection towards P'fa for either one of these two reasons. One, she really loves P'fa and tried really hard to convince her after she already confessed. And two, because she wants to have personal gain while riding the Englot fandom. Because to me, if she is not dating anyone else at the moment, she probably was just trying to get P'Fa's attention. But if she does, she probably can't let the ship break due to monetary reasons. Only two people in this world know their intention, it is Engfa, and Charlotte themselves. If they were to give fan service, my observations says that it only comes from Char and not on Engfa. You can see how uncomfortable she feels when she had to do these things.
Ultimately, this "ship" ruined them. The fans are too invested and slowly stripping away the authenticity that they built in their relationship. I respect their mturity of taking a step back and not feeding the fans with more fan service. They have to figure out things on their own, and if fans meddle with their relationship, they might be really uncomfortable. Who knows, in another universe they are already married with kids, without the fans intervention. If the fans were to step back and calm down, respect their personal life, respect their professionalism, they will have the space to breath and figure out their relationship together.
To Engfa and Charlotte (not that you're gonna read this), you guys know what you feel. If I were you, I would jump. I wouldn't be scared of getting hurt. But hat takes effort and commitement from the both of you. If you can set your insecurities aside, it might work. Or not. But at least you tried. If it doesn't work, you might just be soulmates that never meant to be together. You guys will keep making each other grow and move forward, despite it being in an opposite direction of each other. Wish yall the best ❤
Wow, someone finally said what needed to be said. I loved everything you said and I totally agree with your very neutral opinion. I think a lot of their fans try to force them together instead of leaving them alone and giving them space to figure out their own relationship whatever that may be.
Wooooooowww😳😳😳😳👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
C will getting stronger just like Becky. She knows it's over and when the other side didn't give any feedback why would she hoping for more? She have done her best to be there though. I can't imagine going on someone event and being treated that way actually. But I believe that Char would come back stronger than ever😊.
Hii is this real freen have boyfriend and with becky there is nothing ??
Cuando dijeron que eran pareja? Y becky nunca salió con freen solo le coqueteaba para las fans y xq era un juego de ellas y sus vidas son privadas. Freen siempre dijo al frente de bec q eran nong y phi no se xq las atacan.
I’m surprised you left out of your analysis Engfa being all over other women the whole evening of her birthday. 😅 If Fa keeps saying to her fans to flirt with her and then kissing and flirting with other women all night, it gives the impression she is well and truly over wanting to be with or show any commitment to be with Charlotte, and that being what triggered that ‘out of nowhere’ song that Charlotte put on her IG by The Weekend about Fa being on the dancefloor and seeming so happy without her. Honestly their behaviour towards each other has been so cold and distant for over 2 months (publicly of course, as we have no idea behind closed doors), they seem to have given up on any genuine support or interest in each other, and when they are forced together for work events they’ve been uncomfortable showing any affection.😬 I hope they either work things out between themselves or find someone who will love them back and give them a healthy relationship. Boss only seems interested in money so will force them together no matter what, so the upcoming concert and Englot series feels like it’s going be very painful to watch if they aren’t able to reconnect and treat each other as anything but strangers who you don’t want to interact with. 😢
I wish Char find someone who has more constraint, consideration for her. Maybe, Meena, too
Char no quiere ni apoyar la mano. Y cuando estan juntas ni se miran. Algo pasó que solo ellas saben. Ojala puedan arreglarlo si siguen trabajando juntas. Hermanas no eran entonces porque si serían hermanas como.dicen se comportaría distintas. Pero bueno que sena felices elijan lo que elijan. Tienen contratos que respetar. Más allá que se generó mucho dramas es entendible que se cuiden ahora no poder mirarse es mucho
Something bad must have truely happened cause on feb 2nd they hugged normally but at the birthday party when nawat pushed them together they didn’t even want to touch let alone hug. That says a lot because before they were still talking normally 2 weeks ago.
@@destinyalatorre Perhaps. But it feels like with almost every interaction over the last few months they’ve been getting more and more distant with each other, and maybe whatever discussions they had before Charlotte went to England and Fa started her series and movie filming, they agreed to stop trying to pursue any kind of romantic relationship. Maybe Charlotte was hoping any pause would be short-lived but with Fa filming so far away most of the time, between them they haven’t been able to re-kindle anything. Charlotte was talking about having to adjust to being alone and loving herself and maybe over the last few months she has just become more settled into that mindset where she doesn’t have Fa in her life, and is growing in her acceptance of that possible future (especially if Fa has been telling Charlotte to move on, whether due to their work commitments or emotional or timing incompatibility). Whilst Fa has been focused on her filming and that has taken most of her energy and is likely sticking to wanting to focus on work only and growing her career and then maybe far into the future pursue a relationship, hoping Charlotte will still want to try again in the future, or alternatively having realised that it just won’t work out for them, even if she is conflicted at times about her decisions. Looking back at the last almost 2 years it also feels like the fans have always taken their relationship more seriously than either Fa or Charlotte, whereas for them it’s been far more of a work relationship, with the romantic element driven by physical attraction and fans wanting them to pursue it, regardless of how truly compatible they found themselves when they seem to have tried to make things work multiple times, but it just hasn’t. All just speculation based on what we do see publicly of their interaction with fans, their messages online, their interactions with those around them and how they spend their free time, as well as the various interviews they’ve given where they talk about their relationship, and then my best guess, as we don’t truly know what has gone on behind the scenes or how they feel about each other now, regardless of how they may have felt about each other early on before they explored a relationship, and then all of the stress and work constraints they’ve been faced with whilst trying to navigate anything meaningful with each other. Argh, it’s a mess dragged out over almost 2 years, but I guess that’s also reflective of a work-packed life. 😮💨😅Here’s hoping they both find happiness in the future either way. 🫰
We shouldn't hope a lot that they will become a couple, but I think they are still a good partners. In Fa birthday, Char kept distance because of toxic fan. She is attacked a lot before joining Fa birthday. When she join Meow birthday, many toxic fan shouted at her. Other reason maybe she wants Fa enjoy her birthday. It will be belong to Engfa, not Englot in that day. When boss asked Char to come to the stage and notice about Englot tour in US, many only fan was not satisfied because they don't want other people to become main in Fa birthday.
They worked together for a long time, they don't have any reason to hate each other. They don't want to get more pressure from fan. But now it is so difficult, toxic fans always shout at them whatever they do.
Maybe we only try to push positive comment or energy to protect and encourage them everyday
if you can't be girlfriends, at least you can still be brothers, because as their fan I also feel sad, seeing them now being like this 💔
Englot ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😂😂😂😂
For me .EngLot very strong👍👍💪💪😘is not over..just waiting and pray the best for EngLot..💪🙏😘😘🥰🤗
Yes Jesus name Amen 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊 Amen 🕊🕊🕊🕊
Charlotte is madly in love with Engfa .she keeps giving hints like posting songs ❤️😀😀
I think so,too
The truth is Charlotte has her boyfriend in real life. Nawat who is the owner of Miss Grand competition said it's his 3rd time that have to talk with Chalotte to stopped posting her IG in her close friends about her real love story. You can find the interview of both Nawat and Charlotte herself that admitted her real relation with her boyfriend. @@doraisadora4270
Yup she is❤😂
Yup she is ❤😂😊
Engfa has what she wants, other woman. That will never change but I wish Charlotte can go on and throw her love to someone who generally cares , please
You have much more to give . Don’t be narcissistic like Elga
Showing Engfa hate...these are the troll fans we hate 🙄 LEAVE THEM ALONE
Can you please tell me who these women are? Are they in a relationship or?
@@Rosesbaby there’s a lot of info that I can’t include bc I’d be writing an essay but to sum it up they are previous contestants of miss grand Thailand (engfa won and charlotte was 5th runner up I believe). They gained fans bc ppl noticed their chemistry early on and engfa came out as lgbt which is rare in the realm of beaty pageants. They were shipped heavily and they were honest about how they felt towards eachother throughout the whole competition and if I remember correctly they tried dating at one point but I guess it didn’t work out at the time(maybe bc of their careers not allowing it or maybe bc they weren’t feeling it who knows). They also acted in a gl series together loosely based on their real lives. Engfa is also a talented singer and sang even before joining miss grand Thailand. They got a lot of fans and naturally some toxic fans that analyzed their every move so that probably made things awkward for them in the long run. So all that is just to say pls don’t listen to the dramatic comments about one acting cruel towards the other, they are both kind hearted towards eachother and to the fans but some people can’t accept that their ships won’t always live happily ever after so they start conspiring against people idk. There’s a lot of cute videos about their journey but the fans have gone crazy now that they’re doing their own separate acting projects these day
@@ChocoMocha238 yes that makes sense. Thank you so much for taking the time to respond
Yes, I support Englot no matter what happens 🥹🫶
They are a good partner that's proven they've work well. Maybe it's just business and try to separate their personal life away from the eyes of the onlookers. I just want them to be happy and successful to whatever their plan for the future. Engfa really wants to give Char the freedom to explore and widen the scope of her dreams, meet new people and realize more opportunities as her young age. She got a lot of choices and possibilities. As to whatever they feel, i hope they're not hurting. We can just see them like we can't really tell the real score but it's sad to see they're being so distant. I hope they'll stay and maintain the friendship that they've had for years.
The statement just like the song of trademark 2am.. miss them both show together so much
they are gonna bounce back stronger. the toxicity in the fandom is so overwhelming. As a FreenBecky fan, i understand them 😘😆
A veces demasiado esfuerzo trabajando tanto, viajando y con tanto estrés, además de los que las dirigen y llevan sus carreras que les exigen más de lo que a veces ellas quiere hacer en realidad, puede confundirlas un poco y hasta dañar la relación tan linda que ha existido entre ellas del tipo que sea, sólo espero que ellas se sobrepongan a todo y ojalá llegara a una relación bien bonita porque son hermosas y talentosas las dos y juntas se ven preciosas ❤❤
When Engfa proposed Charlotte she wasn't into such relationship so obviously she needed time before accepting a relationship but when she accepted the proposal then Engfa suddenly stepped back saying lets stay as sisters coz she gave the reason of contract with Nawat, but I guess she already knew about the contract then she shouldn't have proposed Charlotte in the beginning. Thays when Charlotte got hurt. So basically papa Nawat didn't let them get into a real relationship but one thing I don't understand the of someone really loves the other person ehy does she have to inform Nawat or take his permission as long as their work doesn't get disturbed.
First of all. Engfa didn’t reject Charlotte she just asked for time and certainty. Charlotte couldn’t give that to her and confirmed her feelings we’re only there when she felt her lowest (WoodyFM) and few days ago she confirmed by liking a trolls/ known E anti account she couldn’t reciprocate feelings for a woman. Engfa was very clear about where she stand with char. Char didn’t. Which is fine.
@@Jtcx644that’s correct, charlotte said that she couldn’t wait. Engfa wants clarity and certainty about relationships she wants it to last long not temporary. It’s just that Charlotte doesn’t understand so that’s why it causes problem.
@@Jtcx644is that so? As I recall during their first concert in the Philippines Charlotte was so hurt because of the way Engfa ignored her.
@@larnysobrevega9434 When did she ignore her? Were you with them 24/7?they were literally sleeping in the same room.
I keep wondering what it could be: maybe they had another big fight again? Maybe Engfa is uncomfortable with Charlotte being so clingy and got mad at her, which is why char is avoiding touching her? Maybe one of them found a relationship with someone else and the other is hurt? Engfa is always very jealous but she hand her hands on everyone last night. Maybe she's trying to make charlotte jealous, or even trying to get revenge on Charlotte?
Maybe they're just avoiding each other on purpose so that all the shippers will leave them alone because they weren't shipping with caution?
I hope it all blows over and they go back to some kind of friendship though.
My hope that they will truly be together is almost dead now, but I want them to at least be friends and let us see them spend time together and have great chemistry.
(But maybe, if they keep fighting like this, something needs to change. The only thing they haven't tried is being together...? 🙃)
Muốn có biết tình yêu của họ ra sau đẹp hay ko thành đôi hay ko hãy để tự nhiên , và chúng ta sẽ thấy tình cảm họ dành cho nhau ko lo do cả hai sẽ tự bù đắp cho nhau nếu họ cảm thấy còn cảm nắng với nhau thì tình yêu đó ắc sẽ đến bên họ cho dù bất cứ chuyện gì đã sảy ra với họ , chúc hai bạn luôn luôn hp ❤❤❤
if they are not couples as they saied, so they don’t have to egnor each other like this, they can live their life and not turn to others..
What I see is char try to fix it but ef avoid it so... However whatever happen between them hope don't involve aoom becoz aoom only for meena
What ever your opinion! ENGLOT ( TIME WILL PROVE PEOPLE)😂❤
I don’t think it’s over… but like If the look at each other it’s a problem if they don’t it’s a problem… they need to keep things private for them and I respect it in whatever way …. Whatever they do it’s a problem and it’s so disheartening to see the way they both get attacked for just being themselves. If they do decide to walk away I can’t even blame them I wouldn’t be able to deal with half of the stuff they encounter
Char allí se llevó la peor ignorada de su vida.. por parte engfa 😢
😮Lgnore or pretend to ignore
Personally, I think we don't have enough information to judge them. We should only talk about what we saw at the BDay party.
Comparing last year and this year atmosphere between EF and CL, we can all see that things have changed. Events that happened in one year for them are like 5-10 yeras of ordinary people's packed into that one year. I think they are under so much pressure to live their lives in public.
EF and Charlotte have very different backgrounds. EF is born an artist, more sensitive and has gone through a lot in her life. Hence, she is smart in presenting herself in public (with the exception on her Birthday Party). Nawat even said that Engfah can talk you to do the things she wants. She puts a lot of thoughts in her plan and what she speaks.
Charlotte is raised by an English father who is an ex-soldier. If you watch her VLog "in England" with her family, you might understand her better. She is going back to be Daddy's sweet girl after a tiring year. I have to say that I see a sweet, humble and loving person in that VLog. She loves and admires her Dad and love the family, her half brother and his family, her step mother. From other clips, I can also say that she loves her Mum dearly and does not hold grudge for leaving her.
Now, let's talk about EF behaved badly on her Birthday. Everyone can have their own opinions. This is mine.
I think EF owes Oom and Meena an apology. Admittedly, EF was drunk but I think she knew what she was doing (She posted next day "See, I can be clingy").
EF was grouping all over Oom, not a sign of respect. In doing this, she hurts many people, Oom (but Oom may be able to take it), Mena (I guess), Char(may be)
The biggest effects, in my opinion, are:
MeenBabe FCs,
Englot FCs.
Presenters of Englot
Series by Englot.
I have written enough. Thanks for reading.
True! That night is a big chaos to mgt family by doing that in public ang they are both queen of mgt. For engfa nxt time if she drunk try to compose yourself be decent to all your fans friends family. Just ignore what Charlotte feels coz u always ignore her just be considerate to all girls that you kisses many times and act like a man when you force snack and aoom to put down and open your zipper. Act as a queen as if its your title.
New subscriber from india ❤
Yes is Over !!. Over like FreenBecky. They are NOT together😢
Soy fan de las dos y debo decir que para equilibrar el marcador me hubiese gustado que Charlotte tambien coqueteara y besara a otras chicas, vaya por ese refrán que dice "tu me la haces, tu me la pagas"". Quizáz mi comentario no sea el más positivo ni el mas maduro pero viendo el comportamienro de Engfa, debo decir Charlotte mi vida olvidate de eso yaaaa... y comienza a disfrutar igual que con lo celópata que es E te aseguro que le va a doler mucho más, y por favor Charlotte bebé el amor no se mendiga, así q si E no quiere ni mirarte estando delante de los demás, pero si besar, """apretar "" que fue prácticamente lo que hizo con Aoom, pues buno amiga mantente alejada gozando de la fiesta que te aseguro que mas de una estaría encantada con tu atención. Perdón si ofendo con mi opinión pero en verdad es la primera vez desde que sigo a estas chicas que me momestó ver este tipo de escenas (MAS CUANDO SE DICE QUE ENGFA ES """"EXTREMADAMENTE TÍMIDA """) bueno al parecer ya no tanto, y por favor no culpemos a la bebida por esto cada cual sabe lo q hace.
Writing all this like she will read it 😂
Lovyu engfa char
The answer is simple when they be loving on each other ya'll say they are doing it for money and when they put a distance between them ya'll starts to scream 😱 💯 🤷what do you really want. How about loving them for how talented they're on what they do than having false hopes cz at one point one of them will publicly announce her wedding one day with the person of her dreams 😂😂😂😂ya'll too much these people have their private life that you have no idea what they're doing.in my opinion it's awkward now cz there's feelings involved or one ov them now have a partner at home they don't want give them reasons to worry 😉
P’fa rất là để ý cô gái của cô ta, ánh mắt nhìn Charlotte rất hp ❤❤❤
Is this still going on? They've already said there is nothing between them, what more do you need?
Já tem um tempo que elas estão totalmente desconfortáveis na presença uma da outra.
Porém são obrigadas a isso pro Boss ganhar dinheiro como sempre.
saya berharap tidak ada yang berubah diantara kalian berdua dan saya berharap semoga hubungan kalian bisa seperti tahun sebelumnya serta masih ada cinta dan kasih sayang diantara kalian..❤❤❤❤❤❤
Berharap jela mampu. Kenyataannya masing2 ada kehidupan sendiri akan datang.
@@missloverainbow PNawat akan mengadakan konser lagi buat Englot tahun ini, apakah itu tidak ada harapan bagi hubungan Englot ?
yg pasti mereka sudah tidak mesra lagi seperti sebelumnya. waktu yg akan membuktikan semua.
Btul skli mrk tmpk canggung dn kykny bru sj knal...keliatan bget klo baru perang dingin, marahn...klo biasany char lsng nyosor lsng peluk pegang aj gk berani...sabar char bsa utk instropeksi diri aj yaaa...
When there are emotion.,there is a feeling of anger .there is no reason to be angry 😊
She sets her free....to protect her
Pero alguna vez dijeron q eran pareja?
Aku tau perasaan pfa,jlous and ga mau bagi hati chat,char juga harus paham kalo emang ada rasa ke pfa,andai di posisi aku udh abis juga pasti,marah kecewa,namun itu ga bisagerubah semua cinta adalah cinta,moga pada gerti and pada memhi char
Bec of toxic comment that they doing fan service they became cold to each other to avoid the toxicity of the jealous fans
Pray for Englot ❤❤🙏🙏
A whole lot of sadness in those eyes.
That was so painful to watch 💔
Charlotte beautiful ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
😢😢😢
I hope everyone not judge englot just from this clip because its not all vidio on that event,but i want to say for all fc for now lets not fight for englot because we are naver know what happend between them,i think its normal life if they are sometime sulk eachother because we are too sometime fight with friend and family just lets them how they can make up their relationship,maybe engfa has a reason she do that and char too has a reason why she that do,please we are not make war argument about what happend on englot like if they have sweet moment you are give bad comment like that just make for money if they are have distance you are try make comment anything,i think its make them uncompartable how they need act in front cam,because anything they do you make them wrong,please stop war argument,we need to respect for them lets make them compartable on their relationship,we need support them if they have work together or individual work,and they relationship ❤️❤️✌️
I only now realized that they are having issues again. Can someone tell me what is going on? I have read something on the internet that Char is dating Sea (the lead in bl series "last twilight") and Engfa know this that's why she's already moving on from her. But, does Char also like Engfa back then??
Wuuuh...keliatan bget klo kalian lg gk akur...yg paling keliatan char ny...semoga dg semua ini charny bsa merubh sikapny lbh dwasa...
Justru charlotte sekarang lebih dewasa..di sini jgn menyalahkan sikap chaotte atau pun enghfa..charlote bersikap seperti itu ada sebab nya..bijak lah menyikapi nya..englote selamanya...💙💙💜
@@asepyeti7061 alhmdulillh klo sdh lbh dwsa jg...aq tdk menyalhkn satu dantara mrk gemes aj liat...yg engfa synkny sdh pol"an yg charlot msh sprt anak kcl..engfa klo sering dsuguhi dn sll merasakn kejeoulesan dlm ati siapa sih yg kuat...jln satu"ny ya begini walo engfany sbnrny sampai skrg msh dn msh sgt synk ke charlote...ya..aq hny berdoa smoga mrk bsa dpersatukn dlm ikatan suci yg sah utk slmny.amin...
@@nuribayati8414 bawa enjoy saja..karena mereka sebetul nya masih saling menyayangi..yg terpenting englote masih menjadi pasangan di dunia hiburan..biarlah urusan pribadi mereka yg menentukan..jodoh tidak akan salah alamat💜
@@asepyeti7061 iya sih..jodoh tk kn kmn jodoh tdk akn slh almt tdk sprt ayu ting ting yg slh almt trus...ya sdlh kta hny fans abal" apa yg bsa kta perbuat selain doa dn doa yg terbaik utk shtny mrk,sll akur,bermanfaat buat byk org,bsa jd conth klo ush tdk akn mengecwkn hsl,sll rendh hati dn tdk sombong dlm sgl urusan dn hal...
Lets just say both had liked each other n tried but things just didn’t work out… like freenbecky. But one thing for sure, freenbecky r real sisters. This couple could have worked out if they were not in showbiz
Unfortunately… would love to see them together… after some observation, Engfa is looking for something serious but not sure if charlotte is up to it. It also seemed like Engfa is over charlotte. (Char is a mixed, more open minded. If she can’t love Engfa in a lowkey manner, it’s just too bad I guess…
Thats true they can be normal as sisters atleast and later if things work well then can get along again. Because somewhere it shows that they still feel for each other
Sometimes love hurts a lot ,
I hope you understand this ship is all about Marketing and Popularity Driven. Nawat is promoting them because of their fandom but Charlotte dates a guys in her real life and Engfa lately was involve of gg relationship. In Thailand, from my opionion, for this kind of ships are made for popularity and money.
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A truth which asians dont realize this wont happen in any other countries. They have common sense
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Omg so sad 😢
Engfa and Charlotte they have problems and misunderstanding each other. Those things can be resolve with communication, but they don’t want to talk. They don’t have to be lovers, they can be friends and sisters. They can talk together, it’s just that they don’t start talking. They look really uncomfortable and awkward when they together. Then charlotte suddenly post the song “Save your Tears” on twitter after P’Fa’s birthday party. Why would she post that?
It’s like Engfa is having fun and suddenly Charlotte post that song, then people start to bashing Engfa. Really don’t like when charlotte drag Engfa into things.
It’s really sad that Engfa is hurt by others. Like after the birthday party. Engfa works for few months nonstop she really needs to relax. She drinks alcohol it’s just a normal thing but people bashing her. It’s sad.
Oh yes....ITS OVER.
Hurt but I guess it’s over.. 😢 base of why acting of wadidi.. I hurt seeing wamimi like this.. 😢
Yes is Over . ...long time ago. !!! And now Freen is same. Freen back with boy seng😮. And Becky is free snd Single 😅😊
After finding out that Charlotte talks to many people at the same time, she dates many people at the same time & she has a past filled with cheating on her partners. I would run. This isn’t even about Engfa.
I didn't get it, did they break up?
Mchar solto,si enf ya involucro a aoom y es una pena para minaa
Better they are being friends than couple
It's very obvious,months ago they been like this already.The awkwardness is all over, they can't even see each other eye to eye.Lets just accept the fact that it's over.Whatever they're doing now is just purely business...they seems to be strangers to each other...So sad they end this way.
q pingin mereka kya biasa z...kya tmn"yg lain terlepas mereka mu da hub/gk skrng englot kya ada jarak gk enk bngt dilihatnya...
Quero que elas se casem. Uma foi feita para outra. 🥺❤
Tá foda essa relação
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Espero que ja tenham se resolvido. Ja que esse video ja te. Uns 3 dias ou mais. 🥺
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Kasian banget liat si engfa rasanya nyesek liat dia sedih ga happy di ultahnya
What is happening between them... their behaviour is totally changed....😢😢
Why doesn't Charlote fall in love with Faye instead?❤❤❤
Tình yêu luôn luôn có sự ghen tị , nếu đó là ghen thì có lẽ cả hai đã yêu nhau rất nhiều , bỡi vì ghen mới làm cho chúng ta yêu thật sự ❤😅
I always feel their love languages are totally different...engfa is more into skinship and sexually charged passionate and possessive person....and charlet is more into love care cuddling kind of person who needs pampering and attention but she is free soual ....she don't like restrictions. And thats where they can't survive charlets efforts to change herself for engafa was quite evident...but i think engafa have serious trust issues....and age gap and charlets bi preferences make it more worst....its better they will be just friends
I cannot agree more. This is on point. All the fans should know this
It never started just like freen and Becky it never happened either it’s all publicity
What happened with englot 😢😭
Lg pd marahn mrk...
@@nuribayati8414 kenapa sih englot ga bisa kaya freenbecky atau temen yang lain, kenapa mereka seperti selalu ada tekanan? Padahal temen yang satu provinsi sama mereka perasaan biasa aja, atau karna si chat sama cowo lawan mainnya terus ya si engfa marah?
I know englot because both of you,please dont over 🥺🥺 sedihnya sih char sampe g mau liat fa gitu mlh berusaha ngindar
@@AprilHandayani994" They chat with a guy their playing with?" Sounds unusual..u mean their chat playing with someone..and gets them hurt and angry??!
EF didn't waste anything
char said on woody live, said she rejected EF first and then when she started liking EF she said let's just stay sisters, maybe in time so char said she doesn't want to wait she's moving on, EF was shocked, its was on the biggest stage in front of millions. Look at the woody live clip, then during the fan meet char was sitting there crying apologizing to the fans because she said she was moving on after all those live clips saying she will wait for EF and how much she loves EF...😢😢😢😢
so no EF is hurting and char is back and forth on her feelings..EF doesn't think she can trust char after that because it came as a blow and a shock, track the time frame. It was after EF kissed char live, after tiger live and after the Japan trip when char was being very clingy and trying to get EF drunk to go into the sesee😢😢😢
EF has said she wanted life love and a future not just something right now because she's getting older and char said she wants to move on after all this that happened...
Its a lot, so stop blaming
EF for putting up walls again, EF was trying but it wasn't good enough 😕
so let them move on the best and healthiest way
possible but stop saying EF blew it 😒 😒 😕 😑 .
In my opinion char blew it because EF has never cheated on anyone and EF is a very loyal caring person... that's hard to find in any professional industry 😕... plus EF had repeatedly said she doesn't get bored with the person she loves but just don't cheat..so again
stop looking at clips one sided 😤 😒 😑...............
You are right
Your right bro ❤❤❤ these people always blaming Fa.. They are one-sided..
On that time with Woody interviews Fa very sincere to Charlotte because on time Charlotte photos with the guy she's dating it's already out on the public so she's wanted to comfort Charlotte but suddenly Charlotte said She cannot wait to Fa and she's moving on , yes Fa is shocked of that Charlotte answered, besides before they entered the stage Fa hug Charlotte first to comfort her 😢😢😢
I think the reason she's crying to the fans apologize that she's moving on from Fa because she's been dating a guy again on that time but she's noticed lots of people's criticized Her and she's afraid to lost her career that's why she's back to be clingy with Fa sothat fans forgot the issue of Her and that guy it's obvious everytime she's had a issues with a mens she's used Fa name that shes love Fa but they decided to be a sisters because they don't have a time together and they need to grow up their career on showbiz industry then fans back to trusted her now fans forgot that issues..now she's been already good she's ignored Fa again avoiding Fa again it's ridiculous 😂😂😂😂
I really respect Engfa because she's gone through à lot in her life and finally achieved her projets, I have never seen such à charismatic person, she is handsome, elegant, beautiful, gentle, clever in the industry.
I really hope the best for Engfa Waraha.
I happenned to know Charlotte via Engfa, Char is like a teenager she needs to develop herself, let's gîte her some more time
@@lady-ti2ti yes absolutely.
char uses EF fan base to take advantage and char act for pitty and everyone falls for it, then as soon as she sees she have won them over she starts being distant to EF. char is very very smart.
EF never plays on people emotionally, when you see EF breaks and cry she's at the lowest point, EF always tried to make others smile even when she hurting because EF have real bouts with depression 💔 😢 😔 😞. so because EF is not on live singing while crying and looking sad people take that and use it against EF like she's not hurting. char has said herself she doesn't make a good girlfriend because she cheats but again just because char is pretty and play with the emotions everyone excuses char behavior, char was aggressive with EF when EF wasn't giving in to char ways
and everyone still ignored that its really sad how vein char fan dom is 😔 😪......
But everytime i see people attacking EF because of lies i will speak out.. if i seen that people was attacking char because of lies, i will speak out, its always char fans attacking EF trying to make char this god and even boss nawat said he was tired of char childish behavior when she's a grown woman and has cause other's pain and even though she pretty she needs to have more value for herself, boss said that at the last press with the mess of p' tawinan and everyone overlooked it and blamed others and blamed EF for not standing with char, when that entire mess hurt EF also but what did EF do she defend char on her live saying she wasn't hurt that char was single and char was young char can see whoever she wants. Everyone ignored all that and still bash EF and excused char behavior again.
Its really not ok.... EF doesn't deserve all these bad 😔 😪 comments. Especially when it all char sided 🙃.
@@mataurawong7218 thank you i do think char needs to grow up. you said it, char because famous because of EF fandom and now char is rich but people forget that and char plays on people emotions to get pity on live then everyone start bashing EF. I will continue to speak out when i see the one-sided lies. because EF has never said anything hurtful about char but everyone blame EF as if char is innocent and char is the one who said herself there's no more beeee its all in the past.
char fandom is still saying bad things about EF. Its not ok........
Happy jenlisa day 🥰🌹🥰
Englot forever❤❤❤
Englot putus cinta tidak 😭🙏💔💔
Englot is Englot ❤❤❤❤❤❤😂😂😂😂😂
I love speculating on two people who totally fan serviced themselves into heartache. We all know what happened. It started off as a gay girl who had a crush on a hot straight girl. They toyed and teased each other, including us (the fans), into the "are they or aren't they" fanship. Then when it got a little too real, the straight girl got caught being straight and the gay girl got hurt. Straight girl tried to salvage the fanship but gay girl was no longer having it, cuz ya can't fake something that truly hurts you. Now, hot straight girl is retreating back inwards as fast as the gay girl's recoils whenever they are forced to be near or touch each other. And that, my dear shippers, is the end of Englot. But we'll always have Japan and the tiger LIVE right before it all went to 💩.
you may be spot on here
Yes, tis true girl. Theres always a process when it comes to moving on.
Ms. Charlotte did her part.. She put all her effort against all odds but engfa wasted it...😭😭😭😭😭..
engfa wasted nothing. As a reminder, engfa had said that she wanted Charlotte to be sure of her feelings, and that there was a 100% chance if they were patient and waited for the right moment. Except that Charlotte didn't want to wait and she found a guy. Don't blame Engfa
@@PaulinePopArtshe doesn't have any bf, but she was hurt because Engfa first proposed her. In the past both had gf or bf. Lets just focus on their relationship and hope they get along soon papa Nawat wants them to be in another series soon and for that they should be comfortable with each other
@@PaulinePopArtyes your right bro ❤❤❤ why these people always blaming Fa???
They forgot that Fa loves Charlotte at the first during MGT pageant 2022 but clearly said that She love Fa as her eldest sister only and nothing else, fans said if fa have a chance if she's courting Her but Charlotte answered no chance..Fa knew it and she's felt so sad on that time but she's still cool and acting to be okay.. Nuddee, Tina and chompu trying to support Fa and accompanied Her always during that time.. lots of fans sulking Charlotte because of that matter but Fa defense Charlotte and said, maybe Charlotte don't love me now because she's no experience relationship with the girl but who knows next year She love me.. that's Fa words sothat fans become calming besides during Engfa concert she's kneeling Charlotte and fans alive again and felt happy but in real life Charlotte still dating a men on that time secretly but Fa knew it that's when Tina the tomboy actress trying to get Fa attention and Fa responded it maybe because she's wanted to move on with Charlotte on that time ..They went to Singapore with her sister and Tina with her friends to bonding and get to know each other but suddenly there was media reporter saw them so their first dating was not successful and Fa criticized lots of people's in Thailand and down her that she's not professional of her duties as a beauty Queen, Engfa learn these experiences and she's not doing again anymore..
But She still love Charlotte, but Charlotte dating again a man and Fa knew it but she's still silent to protected Charlotte career.and these time Fa really changed.. she's focus more of her instead of Charlotte but suddenly Charlotte fell in love to her after failed relationship with the men's but Fa still Doubt Charlotte because she's still young..Fa Said the right person can wait for the right time, but Charlotte answered why she waiting the right time if the right person already found, because on that time Charlotte found a men but she's hiding it on public but suddenly one of her close friends uploaded their photos on social media so Charlotte decided to stop meeting that man and focus her career then she's back flirting Fa😂😂😂😂but still on consciousness to focus her career take all the opportunities that came to Her.. these video clips of Fa birthday party it's obvious that there is something bothered Charlotte that's why she's cannot look Fa eyes even hug to Fa shes refused it only Boss drags Her hands to put Fa waist.. I'm sure Fa noticed it that's why she's drunk and clingy to Aoom instead of Charlotte.. I remember Fa said before she's only drink alcohol to much and wanted to be drunk if she's lonely because she's wanted to be fun and forgot the problems 😢😢😢
Fa many times glanced Charlotte but she's avoiding Fa besides shes run away on the stage and playing far apart from Fa😢😢😢
@@lady-ti2tiI'm sorry for saying this, what you're telling is in the past, don't talk about it anymore. Now Charlotte has started to change and she's thinking maturely, why is Charlotte like that at birthday events, because she respects Engfa and doesn't want to make Engfa uncomfortable, she wants engfa enjoy on her birthday. and also why is charlotte not with engfa, she is not running away but she is with her fans and friends, there are fans who paid if I'm not mistaken 50,000 baht to pretend to be a couple with charlotte so that's why char is not with engfa.So the point is now just pray for the best for both of them and hopefully their relationship will improve again. If they don't become a couple, it's okay to be a friend or sister
😂 people being one sided in the comments. I’m not surprised they’re not the same. Engfa waited longer than most people would just for Charlotte to be ready and she probably wasn’t ready still. Can’t forget history with Charlotte not knowing what she wants then getting jealous then saying maybe. Engfa doesn’t owe her anything. You can’t expect someone to love and wait for you til the end of time and get absolutely nothing out of it
Fan service! One day y'all know ALL THE TIME you been wasting for them lol and yes Some thai couple that end up being together in real life but this couple is fake for sure
🤷 'Promosm'
That’s just a copy almost the same as freen and Becky a load of crap
As a Sagittarius, from my perspective. If I’m into someone, but and the same time I realize that the relationship won’t work. I’ll keep my distance to her (the one that I have my heart). And yes I’ll express it with song, with a hope she knows how my feeling to her. But I won’t bluntly said it to her
Engfa flirted with pitchy also but she is clever so didn't tell openly to fans or anyone because she keeps her personal life away from fans ythat she herself told in a live
Charlotte 😡😡😡👎👎👎👎👎
Pichy 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬👎👎👎👎👎💩💩💩💩🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮😣...........Charlotte beautiful ❤❤❤❤🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰👏👏👏👏💪💪💪🎉🎉🎉🎉
Engfa 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬👎👎👎👎👎👎
Charlotte beautiful ❤❤❤❤❤😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉💪💪💪💪👏👏👏👏
Boyfriend Charlotte 😡😡👎
@@user-uf4jk4kt4b boyfriend don't people bad........Charlotte beautiful 👍👍👍👏👏👏❤❤❤🥰🥰🥰🥰
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Char's character is weak. Engfa knows it..But she's still dealing with it. Meanwhile, Char's insecurity and jealousy of Engfa's talent is what drives the wedge, Char can't sing or dance as well as Engfa and she never will..It was plainly obvious since Char is always getting angry that she is being shipped with Engfa. Engfa deserves better...Char may be the first woman she ever 'fell' for, and that's a maybe.... so it should be expected. What is real though is Becky and Freen. They keep saying that they are like sisters...but realistically, 'sisters' don't act that way...period..They have been together for 3ys, and they are virtually in each other energy fields all the time. Becky's ambition may pose a problem in the future, but I think they will be together for a while.
It hurts me when char posted the song(save your tears) o God. She saw her dancing in the crowded room..but she run away........ughhhhh it hurts me too.......(please always support dem)😭❤️🤍