Yeah, although one thing to keep in mind is the pyro on the stage isn't putting out a whole lot of energy. The pyro on stage only makes a tiny inaudible pop noise wise and some quick sparks, and there's much more powerful pyro hidden behind the stage called concussion mortars that make the actual sound. Looks like the Ultratec Mines which I believe they use have an effect radius of 1.8 meters, so as long as theyre that distance away they should be safe. One cool example of how quiet it is without the concussions is this video, where the concussions interestingly seem to have went out near the end, before they cut back on for the final blast: th-cam.com/video/nsMDovUVh-8/w-d-xo.html
@@StageExploration even better video to show what it sounds like without the concussions is when they literally failed th-cam.com/video/-CYzbOi1eCU/w-d-xo.html
Or you can just watch AEW to see how quiet pyro is without concussion blasts, or watch Shawn Michaels entrance from around 2006, there were times when the ring announcer was do Shawn’s introduction while the pyro was going off & you could clearly hear the ring announcer.
I agree. There's no "artistry" this stage, and I much prefer basically any of the stages from pre-COVID. This new stage isn't made of conventional stage platforms like the old 3ft stages, which I think is somewhat underwhelming. I think there might be a cost/speed of assembly reason as to this change as well, considering this stage (other than the classic lighting ring) is basically just an LED wall and a few trusses held by chain motors.
Haha yeah! For me the airbursts at the start of the display were loud, and those didn't even have concussion mortars with them since they make their own noise, then when the concussions hit for the rest of the display, I was like "OH MY" since it was like 5 times louder than the airbursts
It's remarkable how much louder the pyro is in indoor arenas, as opposed to larger open air stadiums. Seeing the pyro in a hockey arena versus when I went to Wrestlemania in a stadium was like night and day.
Yeah definitely! I'm thinking of trying to get a seat behind the lighting guys next time, though they had a lot of that part tarped off at my arena if I recall, since that's where the main camera is.
@@StageExploration Depending on how the venue is selling, they sometimes (very often actually) release those seats the day of the show or the day before. They are called production kills, and are opened up once production has been finalized and they can officially put the seats up for sale.
Yup! I have a video hopefully coming soon from the Minneapolis show this week of the concussion mortars. I specifically got seats behind the stage to be able to film it well, though it's shrouded by the curtain they surround it with. I am still trying to find, film or obtain a photo of the mortar rack before it is curtained/raised, so if anyone has any leads that would be awesome. The only pic I've seen is a pretty low res one from like 2008 on WWEs site. I'm tempted to reach out to the pyro company StrictlyFX and ask. I tried waiting after the show for the house lights and maybe the lowering of that curtain if they do that first, but was asked to leave too early to see that.
Yeah! As someone who is super interested in their production tech, I was so happy when I realized you could get seats that close to the technicians. The funny thing is technically they're "obstructed view" seats, so they're actually the cheapest ones in the arena!
It was like a two minutes between when they put the pyro on the stage and the opening vid; they did it right after the commentators had passed the stage in their entrance. The boards themselves were already loaded with the pyro when the audience entered the arena.
It would be pretty crazy if they pulled them off like that and one didn't go off and accidentally did after the fact. I wonder what the fail safe measure is. Especially pointing the explosion racks toward the audience.
I can actually answer some of that! The pyrotechnic products are triggered by electronic matches plugged into PyroDigital FM-A modules, sequenced digitally by the FC-A controller. When they receive a strong electrical charge on those terminals, it ignites and fires the effect instantly. The aforementioned modules however are only turned on and able to receive power when the key at the Field Controller is armed (when the green outputs on it are flashing in the bottom right). You'll also notice the control technician is holding a deadman switch that requires both a thumb and index finger to trigger each effect; so if he's not intentionally firing an effect, the controller will never send a fire command to the module network. So all in all, there are numerous safety measures in place, and it is a fascinating system to study!
Nice! Did Mooch work with Zenith? I've been trying to figure out what happened to Zenith when StrictlyFX took over for WWE; I'm not sure if Strictly bought Zenith at some point, but I know there was some sort of legal dispute between Ron Bleggi and Strictly recently...
@@StageExploration I know last time (2011) I worked with him he was working with Pyrotechnica(Forget the spelling) he got us some new stuff cheap to use for Dead Man's Party at Great Adventure.
Is the person that's responsible for setting the pyros off sitting there in front of you, or is that the truck that does that? I was looking at the people in front to see if anyone were to press a button to make them go off (that would be precision timing needed), but I never saw anyone in that spot move and they went off as they normally do. Wonder who gets to press that "red button".
Yup! He's right there on the bottom right with the glasses. The "red button" is the trigger he picks up at 0:50, and he has to have it it in his right hand for the actual firing since it has a deadman switch. It's called a PyroDigital FC-A Field Controller, and it talks to the FM-A field modules on the stage over XLR cable, which trigger the e-matches in each pyrotechnic at the proper times. You can see the FC-A with the green lights flash white as well as it sends each command. Here is a closeup that the pyro company actually posted, and the guy from my show was watching on his right in this one: instagram.com/p/CmHzv-QuGUA/
@@StageExploration Thank you for the reply. I wasn't looking at him at that point in time, but I can see now that he had that trigger that looks like a Wii Nunchuck that he swapped to his left hand when the pyro was over that seems to be what you're referring to. That Field Controller I went and Googled to know which of the boards you were talking about. It was the one to his immediate left, and I saw that flicker. I think one of my errors was that I expected that it was the guy right in front of you that was who controlled that. Not sure what he's in charge of, but thank you for the reply and letting me know. Greater appreciation to how much work goes into making these shows go off flawlessly week after week.
Ah yeah the guy on the left with the laptop is in charge of the lasers on the stage; those are also handled by the pyro company believe it or not since they can be dangerous if they shoot into someone's eyes. I've seen another clip where they actually switch roles which is interesting
Exactly…there r concussion mortars 50 feet hanging in the air in a cage that are synced with every detonation to mimick and explosion sound…99% Pyro is silent
It is controlled primarily by a PyroDigital FC-A Field Controller, which is the console with the flashing green lights with the technician on the right. It's preprogrammed with the desired pattern by a computer, and talks to the modules on the stage digitally via XLR cables. The flame effects (for Seth Rollins), as well as the haze machines, are controlled separately via the large GrandMA2 lighting console on the right via DMX.
They didn't have pyro for the Raw opening when I went, probably because Cody came out first, and he gets THREE different sets of pyro for his entrance!
Yeah! Sadly they haven't had opening pyro for any weekly shows since April really. They seem to have cycles of doing opening for a few years, then cutting budget back and not doing it for a few years. I think the cost benefit of opening pyro is well worth it to get the live crowd instantly hyped for the show.
AEW does do concussions (you can see them on the right side of the stage) however yeah they are much smaller then the ones WWE uses so it isn't nearly as loud.
Very loud...I've watched pyro videos for years on YT but this is my first time in person, and I still jumped even when I was expecting it. The first blast is the most startling because the pyro is like 10x louder than everything else in the arena, but then you're used to the volume for the rest of the display.
Just an artistic decision; helps the pyro show up better for one, and also generates excitement for the crowd when all the lights cut on and move after the pyro (kind of like how you get excited at a movie theater when the lights go out after the trailers)
I think it's more so that they're focused on the product and especially in the pyro/laser crew's case, everyone's safety. When it wasn't time for a pyro display, they were all laughing and joking with each other, but you could tell when a wrestler with pyro was about to enter because they would immediately get focused and "in the zone".
The unsung heroes of the WWE: the production crew.
As it was in high school, “All hail stage crew!”
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It just astonishes me how comfortable they are being so close to that pyro.
Yeah, although one thing to keep in mind is the pyro on the stage isn't putting out a whole lot of energy. The pyro on stage only makes a tiny inaudible pop noise wise and some quick sparks, and there's much more powerful pyro hidden behind the stage called concussion mortars that make the actual sound. Looks like the Ultratec Mines which I believe they use have an effect radius of 1.8 meters, so as long as theyre that distance away they should be safe.
One cool example of how quiet it is without the concussions is this video, where the concussions interestingly seem to have went out near the end, before they cut back on for the final blast:
th-cam.com/video/nsMDovUVh-8/w-d-xo.html
@@StageExploration even better video to show what it sounds like without the concussions is when they literally failed th-cam.com/video/-CYzbOi1eCU/w-d-xo.html
Or you can just watch AEW to see how quiet pyro is without concussion blasts, or watch Shawn Michaels entrance from around 2006, there were times when the ring announcer was do Shawn’s introduction while the pyro was going off & you could clearly hear the ring announcer.
This thread is great. I think this video would be the best one. This one was WM pyro testing in Georgia Dome. th-cam.com/video/lnpp4gB8sb8/w-d-xo.html
Try being me at Wrestlemania 32, Kane's flames were actually hot, even with me being on the other side of the area.
This is an underrated video! We just did a video on "what it's like to attend a taping of WWE Raw" and I wished that they did the opening pyro.
I will check it out 😁
Im glad someone filmed these guys.. they make the magic happen
They look unhappy
I was at the Raw sitting by the ramp. No joke that pyro was loud! Glad I brought ear plugs with me that night lol
I like the 2006 Raw ramp entrance design better than current one
I agree. There's no "artistry" this stage, and I much prefer basically any of the stages from pre-COVID. This new stage isn't made of conventional stage platforms like the old 3ft stages, which I think is somewhat underwhelming. I think there might be a cost/speed of assembly reason as to this change as well, considering this stage (other than the classic lighting ring) is basically just an LED wall and a few trusses held by chain motors.
Oh man the two little kids plugging their ears beside the barricade haha. Freaked out but then in awe of the pyro. Love to see it.
Haha yeah! For me the airbursts at the start of the display were loud, and those didn't even have concussion mortars with them since they make their own noise, then when the concussions hit for the rest of the display, I was like "OH MY" since it was like 5 times louder than the airbursts
It's remarkable how much louder the pyro is in indoor arenas, as opposed to larger open air stadiums. Seeing the pyro in a hockey arena versus when I went to Wrestlemania in a stadium was like night and day.
Not many high quality pyro videos out there like this
WWE has to be the longest arena tour in history.
Absolutely amazing!!
Amazing? Have a you seen a RAW is WAR pyro?
That’s a lot of work
Man if you get more of these post them would be dope
Yeah definitely! I'm thinking of trying to get a seat behind the lighting guys next time, though they had a lot of that part tarped off at my arena if I recall, since that's where the main camera is.
@@StageExploration Depending on how the venue is selling, they sometimes (very often actually) release those seats the day of the show or the day before. They are called production kills, and are opened up once production has been finalized and they can officially put the seats up for sale.
More pyro than this years Wrestlemania
Great look
Wow 🤩
Gonna blow some minds here…pyro is silent and concussion mortars r hung in a cage 50ft in the air and synced w the detonations 👍🏼
Yup! I have a video hopefully coming soon from the Minneapolis show this week of the concussion mortars. I specifically got seats behind the stage to be able to film it well, though it's shrouded by the curtain they surround it with. I am still trying to find, film or obtain a photo of the mortar rack before it is curtained/raised, so if anyone has any leads that would be awesome. The only pic I've seen is a pretty low res one from like 2008 on WWEs site. I'm tempted to reach out to the pyro company StrictlyFX and ask. I tried waiting after the show for the house lights and maybe the lowering of that curtain if they do that first, but was asked to leave too early to see that.
Nice seats
Yeah! As someone who is super interested in their production tech, I was so happy when I realized you could get seats that close to the technicians. The funny thing is technically they're "obstructed view" seats, so they're actually the cheapest ones in the arena!
And the crows goes silents as the judgement day out to the ring !
The best heel faction currently
Very interesting. How soon before the opening video do they set up the pyro?
It was like a two minutes between when they put the pyro on the stage and the opening vid; they did it right after the commentators had passed the stage in their entrance. The boards themselves were already loaded with the pyro when the audience entered the arena.
It would be pretty crazy if they pulled them off like that and one didn't go off and accidentally did after the fact. I wonder what the fail safe measure is. Especially pointing the explosion racks toward the audience.
I can actually answer some of that! The pyrotechnic products are triggered by electronic matches plugged into PyroDigital FM-A modules, sequenced digitally by the FC-A controller. When they receive a strong electrical charge on those terminals, it ignites and fires the effect instantly. The aforementioned modules however are only turned on and able to receive power when the key at the Field Controller is armed (when the green outputs on it are flashing in the bottom right). You'll also notice the control technician is holding a deadman switch that requires both a thumb and index finger to trigger each effect; so if he's not intentionally firing an effect, the controller will never send a fire command to the module network. So all in all, there are numerous safety measures in place, and it is a fascinating system to study!
@@StageExploration thanks for that info! I knew there would be countless fail safes. It's just so impressive! Thanks again.
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I was trained in Pyro/Cyro by Mooch who worked for the Wwe and tours with Maiden.
Nice! Did Mooch work with Zenith? I've been trying to figure out what happened to Zenith when StrictlyFX took over for WWE; I'm not sure if Strictly bought Zenith at some point, but I know there was some sort of legal dispute between Ron Bleggi and Strictly recently...
@@StageExploration I know last time (2011) I worked with him he was working with Pyrotechnica(Forget the spelling) he got us some new stuff cheap to use for Dead Man's Party at Great Adventure.
@@anthonykrutis490Who controls the graphics put on the screen
@clarkwill7393 Probably a third party .All bands tend to use third-party for effects.
Which speakes are those? Can anyone tell brand name?
Is the person that's responsible for setting the pyros off sitting there in front of you, or is that the truck that does that? I was looking at the people in front to see if anyone were to press a button to make them go off (that would be precision timing needed), but I never saw anyone in that spot move and they went off as they normally do. Wonder who gets to press that "red button".
Yup! He's right there on the bottom right with the glasses. The "red button" is the trigger he picks up at 0:50, and he has to have it it in his right hand for the actual firing since it has a deadman switch. It's called a PyroDigital FC-A Field Controller, and it talks to the FM-A field modules on the stage over XLR cable, which trigger the e-matches in each pyrotechnic at the proper times. You can see the FC-A with the green lights flash white as well as it sends each command.
Here is a closeup that the pyro company actually posted, and the guy from my show was watching on his right in this one:
instagram.com/p/CmHzv-QuGUA/
@@StageExploration Thank you for the reply. I wasn't looking at him at that point in time, but I can see now that he had that trigger that looks like a Wii Nunchuck that he swapped to his left hand when the pyro was over that seems to be what you're referring to. That Field Controller I went and Googled to know which of the boards you were talking about. It was the one to his immediate left, and I saw that flicker. I think one of my errors was that I expected that it was the guy right in front of you that was who controlled that. Not sure what he's in charge of, but thank you for the reply and letting me know. Greater appreciation to how much work goes into making these shows go off flawlessly week after week.
Ah yeah the guy on the left with the laptop is in charge of the lasers on the stage; those are also handled by the pyro company believe it or not since they can be dangerous if they shoot into someone's eyes. I've seen another clip where they actually switch roles which is interesting
I never knew that the boom sound isnt what we see
Exactly…there r concussion mortars 50 feet hanging in the air in a cage that are synced with every detonation to mimick and explosion sound…99% Pyro is silent
Sounds like Charlotte
Are pyros controlled by a remote or a computer?
It is controlled primarily by a PyroDigital FC-A Field Controller, which is the console with the flashing green lights with the technician on the right. It's preprogrammed with the desired pattern by a computer, and talks to the modules on the stage digitally via XLR cables. The flame effects (for Seth Rollins), as well as the haze machines, are controlled separately via the large GrandMA2 lighting console on the right via DMX.
@@StageExploration Thanks, I've always wondered
@@StageExploration make more videos your knowledge is interesting to people would love to see more better/informative content
They didn't have pyro for the Raw opening when I went, probably because Cody came out first, and he gets THREE different sets of pyro for his entrance!
Yeah! Sadly they haven't had opening pyro for any weekly shows since April really. They seem to have cycles of doing opening for a few years, then cutting budget back and not doing it for a few years. I think the cost benefit of opening pyro is well worth it to get the live crowd instantly hyped for the show.
Then fucking opening pyros are sick🙂🙌🏼i love it when they put the pyros on
Me too
damn
AEW dont do the concussions because their pyro sounds low.
AEW does do concussions (you can see them on the right side of the stage) however yeah they are much smaller then the ones WWE uses so it isn't nearly as loud.
@@notabelas3987 Ohhh
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How loud was this pyro in person
Very loud...I've watched pyro videos for years on YT but this is my first time in person, and I still jumped even when I was expecting it. The first blast is the most startling because the pyro is like 10x louder than everything else in the arena, but then you're used to the volume for the rest of the display.
How come the lights in the arena go out before a show begins?
Just an artistic decision; helps the pyro show up better for one, and also generates excitement for the crowd when all the lights cut on and move after the pyro (kind of like how you get excited at a movie theater when the lights go out after the trailers)
@@StageExploration Sounds good to me.
Stage crew looks like they hate they job none of them seem happy at all
I think it's more so that they're focused on the product and especially in the pyro/laser crew's case, everyone's safety. When it wasn't time for a pyro display, they were all laughing and joking with each other, but you could tell when a wrestler with pyro was about to enter because they would immediately get focused and "in the zone".
RAW is WAR pyro beats this crap!
Them pyros are weak compared back in the days
they are still better than nothing, like vince wanted to do due to "budget cuts" triple h did bring pyro back
@@JPX64ChannelVince brought them back in 2020 remember?