The thing the anime struggles the most with 100% is the concept of "weight" and "power" behind the movements, especially when compared to the 3d animations.
That's kind of unfortunately the limitations of the 2d medium. It can be made up with sounds but the motions and impact flow better in computer made models. People in the fandom confuse that a lot with only being a Monty thing, but others had made good fan fights using similar programs he had.
There's a magic that will always be lost, when it comes to Monty's animated movement style. But take that out of the equation, and these videos are soooooooooooooooo good!
No it won't the peeps are already calling it better than the original & calling the original garbage (at least indirectly) which means they never cared for Monty's legacy in the first place these are the same people that Monty told to get lost
@@zaulconz Here are my thought on the new episodes. One of my fears for the rest of the episodes will be that it will only revolve around the fever dream from Weiss. I hope they will not shoot themselves in the foot like that. The first three episodes are rushed, very rushed but the fight scenes and music very quite good
The animation is for sure top notch, but I have to say that there is just something about monty's choreography that really makes the original scene shine despite looking objectively worse in terms of graphics and art. The moves which monty portrayed really conveyed different ideas and shapes which makes it a work of beauty. For example, monty's line work and parallelism makes Ruby's battle moves look like an elegant dance. The hand drawn animation portrays a less dance like portrayal with a more focus on making the battle flashy and epic rather than beautiful and elegant. I think that in terms of ruby's character in this point in the series, the hand drawn anime actually does a better job at portraying ruby's character as being young and less grown, while the original shows ruby as being a more prodigious and grown fighter with her weapon. The hand drawn animated version though, doesn't really make too many references to dig in the fact that Ruby is ahead of everyone and is in essence a prodigy in her sythe craft. So there are different messages and ideas in both versions, so its really up to the viewer to decide which one they think does a better job at delivering a believable message from the character itself. It is with this kind of reasoning that I can say that both are great animations because they both portray what they need to in the mediums and different styles which they originate.
I think when looking at Monty's old works, it's plain to see that his fight choreography had a sense of rhythm to it. Every action flowed into the next, dramatic pauses in time with the music, dynamic poses to exaggerate movement, everything worked together in harmony and its what made the fight scenes in the first 2 seasons so memorable.
I love monty’s fighting style. It’s what roped me into watching all Rwby episodes. On season 4, i love the graphics but the fighting style is kinda ‘slow’ if that makes sens
The sad part is, this is all of the good animation in the first three episodes. Everything else looks static and lifeless. And it's such a shame, cuz when they go hard, they go HARD and the animation is stunning. I just hope that the anime will get better and will avoid the mistakes RT made.
Makes me wonder if they ever got the rights to the original soundtracks... how much more awesome would it be Edit: actually no it would ruin it. Would just be weird having a rwby soundtrack blasting over a full on anime kinda appeal. It would need smth more like a re zero or rising of the shield hero ish soundtrack to complement.
@@ijangumpet It's weird because Monty's animation was created to suit the music, not the other way around. Ice Queendom is like most media, where the music is usually one of the last parts of the process. The difference is pretty obvious.
@@carlosramires412 oh yeah because all boring episodes, slow ass fights, and toxic fan base is better. Also I’m not talking about season one and season two those are great. But everything afterwards was fucking terrible.
@@BlackFox-gz9ig season 3 is at its peak and the true ending of the series, season 4 was boring at worst, but season 5 is were it started to go down hill…it gets worst afterwards wards with each season being worst and worst…it sucks
@@crowravencorvenrow It's funny how even though the title is named after Weiss, it's obvious Studio Shaft loves Ruby the most since she got the best animation in the episodes so far lol.
Yeah, it's almost like season 1 of ruby was made on a shoestring budget or something. It's probably just a coincidence that this show had much more money put into it.
Yea...I feel like all the effort is put into Ruby's and Weiss fighting and they said duck it to the rest...it's not consistent but maybe it will be later I am hoping.
Even across the three episodes we have so far, you can tell that they had less money/time for big scenes in each one. I'm scared the rest of the series is going to be like the Emerald Forest animation with fewer and fewer pretty scenes.
I find the music a little bland, like very calm, it lacks a certain intensity, more shrill notes to put it somehow, I don't know how to describe it properly, I'm not a musician, but the original was more intense
@@索斯 But I like this song. I listen to lots of anime, video game & movie songs/soundtracks and this one from L is definitely top tier. The music is top tier. I like L's voice too.
first look at the remake so far, and I gotta say I'm disappointed it lost the "soul" and "charm" of the original examples that came to mind is when Ruby dashes out of the dust shop suddenly. she spins around her unfolding sniper scythe and slams it into the ground, then takes a hot second to switch off the headset she kept holding onto in her other hand. that little quirky touch to it made the scene extra fun when Weiss fights the possession Grimm stored in the armored knight, the White Trailer went all out. Weiss uses her glyphs to manoeuver across the battlefield as if she were graciously ice skating. her blows are swift and precise. when the knight tries to cleave her with his sword, she has the reflex to jump on top of the sword's end, and slide down it to reach her towering foe for another strike. and ofc the icon moment the knight struck her and she flew back harshly. determined, she stands up, blood flowing from her new facial scar. she's unwavering, the dust compartment of her sword turns as she's already preparing her counterattack can't say I get the same feel off this new series. Monty Oum's animations and personal touches just added an entire extra level
Well montys steal is unique dude you can't expect someone to replicate that and this is 2D they have to hand draw everything so of course it isn't going to feel the same as the original series If you went into this expecting to see the Montys fight scenes replicated then you were just playing with yourself
As someone with no attachment to the original, imo the anime scenes are much better. Watched the OG of that scene and it just looked so... idk how to place it. Well it has the same feeling as those really well done animations that are done with TF2 characters (SFM?)
It's not a remake it's a spinoff...they're taking a different approach than the main series this is seen with the "Nightmare grim". If it was a remake it wouldn't be very good with the amount of missing details. Like the black grav dust circle is missing from Weiss. I will say as a spinoff that's doing a rough recap of the first 2 episodes of Rwby it's ok. I'm holding judgement until I see more episodes.
@@Tymptra well considering the year it was in and the budget the OG was made with, ofcourse the anime is gonna look better, it has a significantly bigger budget to back it up but the action choreo of the OG is just too crisp, the original's fight scenes were creative as fuck. seeing the giant bird and scorpion grimm fight of the anime honestly made me appreciate the OG more.
The bad part of this is that this good animation is only in the first 3 episodes and in the last 2 battles of the anime, the rest of the battles are quite bad 😥
![Checkmate - RWBY [AMV]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/A7g6hN4Tfac/mqdefault.jpg)
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The thing the anime struggles the most with 100% is the concept of "weight" and "power" behind the movements, especially when compared to the 3d animations.
That's kind of unfortunately the limitations of the 2d medium. It can be made up with sounds but the motions and impact flow better in computer made models. People in the fandom confuse that a lot with only being a Monty thing, but others had made good fan fights using similar programs he had.
As a martial artist I find the relative lack of jerkiness to be more realistic
Monty’s legacy endures
There's a magic that will always be lost, when it comes to Monty's animated movement style. But take that out of the equation, and these videos are soooooooooooooooo good!
No it won't
the peeps are already calling it better than the original & calling the original garbage
(at least indirectly)
which means they never cared for Monty's legacy in the first place
these are the same people that Monty told to get lost
wow, imagine the whole series remade in this style
I would love to, but if they did, then Rooster Teeth will be out of Business.
@@DyunJam seen what they turned original idea to it probably would be for the better
@@DyunJam You mean a win-win?
i hope not, the animation is low quality
@@zaulconz Here are my thought on the new episodes. One of my fears for the rest of the episodes will be that it will only revolve around the fever dream from Weiss. I hope they will not shoot themselves in the foot like that. The first three episodes are rushed, very rushed but the fight scenes and music very quite good
*Calmly sips coffee and waits patiently for Pyrrha to deliver the rolling spinebuster on Cardin again*
my goodness that animation is incredible
The animation is for sure top notch, but I have to say that there is just something about monty's choreography that really makes the original scene shine despite looking objectively worse in terms of graphics and art. The moves which monty portrayed really conveyed different ideas and shapes which makes it a work of beauty. For example, monty's line work and parallelism makes Ruby's battle moves look like an elegant dance. The hand drawn animation portrays a less dance like portrayal with a more focus on making the battle flashy and epic rather than beautiful and elegant. I think that in terms of ruby's character in this point in the series, the hand drawn anime actually does a better job at portraying ruby's character as being young and less grown, while the original shows ruby as being a more prodigious and grown fighter with her weapon. The hand drawn animated version though, doesn't really make too many references to dig in the fact that Ruby is ahead of everyone and is in essence a prodigy in her sythe craft. So there are different messages and ideas in both versions, so its really up to the viewer to decide which one they think does a better job at delivering a believable message from the character itself. It is with this kind of reasoning that I can say that both are great animations because they both portray what they need to in the mediums and different styles which they originate.
Art can never be objective
@@ExusiaiClips oh it can
@@danielazimoh274 oh it can't. How else am I supposed to respond to this?
I think when looking at Monty's old works, it's plain to see that his fight choreography had a sense of rhythm to it. Every action flowed into the next, dramatic pauses in time with the music, dynamic poses to exaggerate movement, everything worked together in harmony and its what made the fight scenes in the first 2 seasons so memorable.
I love monty’s fighting style. It’s what roped me into watching all Rwby episodes. On season 4, i love the graphics but the fighting style is kinda ‘slow’ if that makes sens
これがチームRWBYって感じが伝わる素晴らしい一曲。
aAAAAAA!!!! The decapitation!!! Uuuuh literally sends chills down my spine!
monty oum 's masterpiece
The sad part is, this is all of the good animation in the first three episodes. Everything else looks static and lifeless.
And it's such a shame, cuz when they go hard, they go HARD and the animation is stunning.
I just hope that the anime will get better and will avoid the mistakes RT made.
they need budget, just give them
Makes me wonder if they ever got the rights to the original soundtracks... how much more awesome would it be
Edit: actually no it would ruin it. Would just be weird having a rwby soundtrack blasting over a full on anime kinda appeal. It would need smth more like a re zero or rising of the shield hero ish soundtrack to complement.
someone actually mashed the anime with the original sound track, a bit weird, but it works.
@@ijangumpet It's weird because Monty's animation was created to suit the music, not the other way around. Ice Queendom is like most media, where the music is usually one of the last parts of the process. The difference is pretty obvious.
Stunning!
The masterpiece of montie
I'm really greatful to the Japanese for saving this anime 😌 really really thanks 👍
Original is better plus the voice actors they chose just doesn’t suit the characters🙄
@@carlosramires412 oh yeah because all boring episodes, slow ass fights, and toxic fan base is better. Also I’m not talking about season one and season two those are great. But everything afterwards was fucking terrible.
@@BlackFox-gz9ig season 3 is at its peak and the true ending of the series, season 4 was boring at worst, but season 5 is were it started to go down hill…it gets worst afterwards wards with each season being worst and worst…it sucks
This argument spitted facts
@@michaelbarret4610 which ones😂
I’m just thinking the first version was the unpolished ore and now japan have polished it up and made some more details to it
Eh...some of the fights are clunkier than in the original. Both of Ruby's big fights in the first few episodes were great, but the rest...
@@crowravencorvenrow It's funny how even though the title is named after Weiss, it's obvious Studio Shaft loves Ruby the most since she got the best animation in the episodes so far lol.
@@AICW Weiss vs the Boarbatusk and Knight wasn't that bad either.
久しぶりにアニメにハマった、まじで神アニメ
Glad i knew this, i didnt even know what show that is rwby is...
Cool!
3:20 best part
BANGER
Mei : kiana chan !!!!
The fight scene animation was so greater than the 3D animation. I wonder when the RWBY vol9 released, I'm too excited...
next year 2023!!!
RT Channel trailer rwby volume 9
@@Skr-drt yeah, I've seen that but thank you
delayed cause they are focusing more on the DC RWBY cross over movie
actually rivals demon slayer animation imo
カッコいいです( ☆∀☆)
ありがとうございます🌹
Cool
They look like the Zero Sisters from Drakengard 3
I don't know about the others, but Yang is pretty much Five
My only problem is the music, nothing can replace those rock tracks
懐かしいな
Kiana Chan
Wow, the animation is so much better, more dynamic than the original.
i agree but many people dont
It's not perfect, but I think Shaft put enough effort into it which is rare to see even the monsters of the combat scenes are 2D in nowadays anime.
Yeah, it's almost like season 1 of ruby was made on a shoestring budget or something. It's probably just a coincidence that this show had much more money put into it.
anime have more camera work on dominating the focus of the scenery
monty's work took more care in making the character seemed lively and strategic
I think the drawn one looks a lot better than the 3D one.
Nah
Kiana 🗿
Lo que pudo haber sido....
animation going from zero to a hundread sometimes :/
yeah exactly. the spokes in budget spent per part of scene really show honestly
Yea...I feel like all the effort is put into Ruby's and Weiss fighting and they said duck it to the rest...it's not consistent but maybe it will be later I am hoping.
Even across the three episodes we have so far, you can tell that they had less money/time for big scenes in each one. I'm scared the rest of the series is going to be like the Emerald Forest animation with fewer and fewer pretty scenes.
kiana in other universe
Weiss fight remind me of how Asuna fight😍😍 btw it's pity that all her semblence doesn't have much color unlike the original version...
I find the music a little bland, like very calm, it lacks a certain intensity, more shrill notes to put it somehow, I don't know how to describe it properly, I'm not a musician, but the original was more intense
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Yeah not going to lie, I do enjoy the originals choice of music, though this is pretty good compared to the rest of ice queendom imo
Hey kiana
That was my thought XD
Looks like siesta from tantei wa mou shindeiru
in the anime weiss is so cool
I met a god anime
Where i can watch this bro?
what is the name of the song? it's good!
RWBY Ice Queendom Capabilities Unseen
But i feel kind of upset about only Yang, her appearance and fight scene after remake really short.
アニメーションにモンティのリズム感が欠けている。同じことに気づいた人いたら、仲良くなりたい。
this animation doesn't have the rhythm of monty.if anyone noticed that, please be my friend.
porque no usaron el OST original...
Kiana but Ice
很明显 打斗不行 也不是不行 就是处于日式番剧的那种打斗 画面分镜好 但是和动作没什么关系
很明显还不如原作的v3v4的打斗
虽然人设都是一样的 但是角色外表和原作有一定的区别……
bgm也没有激昂热血的感觉了 变成日式的oped了吗
剧情貌似是走IF线？
最主要的还是动作 根本不是原作那种拳拳到肉的动作啊 这就是披着rwby皮的日式番剧啊
我觉得可以和原作的v5-v8比较 半斤八两 卧龙凤雏
但是原作的v5-v8 打斗不行还有bgm啊
这个有什么？新剧情吗新人设吗还是日化萌吗
倒是有日本那边的声优怪物…… 但这cv和rwby搭吗？
顺便一提 我觉得rwby最巅峰的打斗应该是4色pv了
出道即巅峰啊
@@索斯 But I like this song. I listen to lots of anime, video game & movie songs/soundtracks and this one from L is definitely top tier. The music is top tier. I like L's voice too.
Как называется аниме
1000 siii
What is the name of the anime?
RWBY Ice Queendom
Ini game atau anime?
ini anime
@@ray777dawn judul nya apa?
@@yokaze3828 RWBY Ice Queendom
@@ray777dawn makasih
Ini aslinya 3d series tapi making kesini seriesnya making jelek
Can anyone tell which series is this?
Rwby the ice queendom
The animation is beautiful but whithout the music it just…….. doesn’t hit right
ㅈㄴ이쁘다 애니 세상에서 살고싶다
sauce?
Anya, you're not old enough for this... but I'll allow it just for this one... It's RWBY Ice Queendom
What an anime?
RWBY Ice Queendom
what music ?
Capabilities Unseen (Ft.L) RWBY
Anime title please
RWBY Ice Queendom
HoF:)
judul musik bro
Void Chord _ Capability Unseen
first look at the remake so far, and I gotta say I'm disappointed it lost the "soul" and "charm" of the original
examples that came to mind is when Ruby dashes out of the dust shop suddenly. she spins around her unfolding sniper scythe and slams it into the ground, then takes a hot second to switch off the headset she kept holding onto in her other hand. that little quirky touch to it made the scene extra fun
when Weiss fights the possession Grimm stored in the armored knight, the White Trailer went all out. Weiss uses her glyphs to manoeuver across the battlefield as if she were graciously ice skating. her blows are swift and precise. when the knight tries to cleave her with his sword, she has the reflex to jump on top of the sword's end, and slide down it to reach her towering foe for another strike. and ofc the icon moment the knight struck her and she flew back harshly. determined, she stands up, blood flowing from her new facial scar. she's unwavering, the dust compartment of her sword turns as she's already preparing her counterattack
can't say I get the same feel off this new series. Monty Oum's animations and personal touches just added an entire extra level
Well montys steal is unique dude you can't expect someone to replicate that and this is 2D they have to hand draw everything so of course it isn't going to feel the same as the original series
If you went into this expecting to see the Montys fight scenes replicated then you were just playing with yourself
As someone with no attachment to the original, imo the anime scenes are much better. Watched the OG of that scene and it just looked so... idk how to place it. Well it has the same feeling as those really well done animations that are done with TF2 characters (SFM?)
It's not a remake it's a spinoff...they're taking a different approach than the main series this is seen with the "Nightmare grim".
If it was a remake it wouldn't be very good with the amount of missing details. Like the black grav dust circle is missing from Weiss.
I will say as a spinoff that's doing a rough recap of the first 2 episodes of Rwby it's ok. I'm holding judgement until I see more episodes.
@@Tymptra well considering the year it was in and the budget the OG was made with, ofcourse the anime is gonna look better, it has a significantly bigger budget to back it up but the action choreo of the OG is just too crisp, the original's fight scenes were creative as fuck. seeing the giant bird and scorpion grimm fight of the anime honestly made me appreciate the OG more.
Breedable?
The bad part of this is that this good animation is only in the first 3 episodes and in the last 2 battles of the anime, the rest of the battles are quite bad 😥
my goodness that animation is incredible