Can plastic body armor really stop bullets?
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Gday
Can you make your own bullet proof armor
or is it an national fucking secret
You make some of the best videos. So informative and just an awesome delivery and you keep it down to earth and real. Keep up the good word bro.
@@charliebrownau Lots of how to videos on youtube.
@@charliebrownau Not really a secret but it does require some precision equipment and processes
@@3nertia in all do respect, can you name the "precision equipment"? What about a life-preserver with 100 rolls of Duck Tape?
Athank you for mentioning the price, so many people leave off the most important info like that.
A lot of times, it’s because videos are hopefully being watched for years, and prices change. I *always* link to current price info in the description for all of my videos whether or not I mention price in the video itself. Thanks for watching!
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I'm a little late on seeing this one but better late than never right, lol. Another great tech video my friend, TwangnBang is the best, cheers mate.
Its incredible that something so light and made of plastic is able to stop such powerful rounds.
it really surprises me that they are not making hybrid armor.
i think it could be a good idea, if they used thinner ar500 plates on the body side, and the plastic layers on the outside. The plastic should stop most of the impact, as well as the bullet fragmentation, and the steel should help spread out that impact, as well as provide a final stop for the bullet. And it shoudl be thinner than an all plastic version. It might even be beneficial if they stuck a layer of ceramic in there too.
why not thin ceramic plate on top
They can, but it's much more expensive. Bonding a steel plate to a plastic plate like this takes a lot more effort and production cost than you would think.
@@JohnDoe-zh6cp Pardon me if I sound dumb, but what stops having a carrier rig be slightly wider to fit both a thin plastic plate and a thin steel plate in? I mean it sounds so simple but I think it would be fine, or am I wrong?
SmilingMoos3 They're built to snugly fit standard plate sizes. Making it wider would cause normal sized plates to slide around which would be uncomfortable and potentially dangerous
@@JohnDoe-zh6cp so why not invent a wider plate specifically made for dual plates?
I think the port security guards will love them
or the coast guards
Iirc some SOF units run swimmer cut UHMWPE.
Proof that Star Wars Stormtrooper armor works... It's even white!
But not against rebel blasters.
@@helmsscotta just me being pinicity but I've heard that imperial casualties were very low because the rebel blaster fire just disabled the soldiers but not killed them, ie it knocked them unconscious but didn't kill
its white because they wanted it to work
@@oliverworley5162 IIRC the stormtrooper armor is supposed to save the wearer from one shot from a blaster at the cost of a likely concussion from the blast. And blaster bolts in the story are usually plasma balls that would melt normal steel. Plasma typically a plot explanation for penetrating armor of things like terminators
damon sturgill 10/10 I felt offended first but that was good joke that made me audibly laugh
So this is the modern equivalent of the classical gambeson: many layers of a soft materiel that spread impacts and turn blows, a bit vulnerable to "armor piercing" sharpness head-on, but awesome at protecting from incidental shots. Let's face it: weight-efficient armor is never intended to have you stand there like a jerk and take multiple point-blank attacks. It assumes you are doing something sensible to avoid and deflect while you carry out your tactics. It's like Tolkien said of castle fortifications (approx): "No walls will stand if men abandon them."
I'd like to see this lightweight technology taken to the next level, like an interlinked/layered body coat with limb cover as well, similar to scale-armor of past eras.
Nano tech gambeson yup, the main issue being that jihadists are apparently actually armed with penetrator rounds due to the Saudi's and most of the US's developed enemies are capable of steel core rounds easily in a war (Unlikely to happen due to M.A.D), would be interesting to see if they hold their own against these rounds but I am not really sure if they would.
On a side note I love the idea of them creating a modern equivalent of lorica segmentata (properly fitted unlike in most portrayals) using this plate technology or motorcycle protection that can be used by maniacs like me :P.
You mean like Dragon Skin ? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Skin
Thanks for the reference. Reading between the lines a bit on that article, it looks like the incumbent supplier knew all the dirty bureaucratic tricks and fine-print loopholes to avoid competition in the market. Lockheed-Boeing did similar stuff to block SpaceX for several years, which cost taxpayers many billions of dollars in overcharges for inferior service.
Yeah there's a niche that motorbike armor manufacturers could really exploit here.
Kyle Wynne luckily at the range a lot of the engagements in Afghanistan and some Iraq distances were fought at, it helps to negate quite a bit of the penetration on those rounds. It would be interesting to see how it does against a 5.56 green tip and 7.62x39 mild steel core at 100-200 meters, which are very likely combat range scenarios. 5.56 green tip velocity tends to drop off quite a bit due to poor ballistics of the round.
I love the tack that it floats on it own. So cool.
Actually impressive. Thanks for sharing this with us Cameron!
Ar500 is in N. Phoenix AZ and they are a Militia approved manufacturer. Thumbs up!
Thank you for being so detailed. Great video!
Thanks for watching!
I actually got AR500 plates FOR the weight.
Who needs a lead weight vest, when you can buy a weight vest that stops bullets?!
:)
My man lol
Michael Peila right on, I do push ups and pull ups with mine.
Yes.
Man you missed out there “ new “ lvl3+ plates are only just under 8lbs buuuuut if your lucky I’m sure some one will trade you there “ old production “ lvl3+ plates that were 15lbs I mean talk about goals ;P
When I looked into this, the deal breaker was heat sensitivity. The manufacturer said that in hot climates, if this armor is left in a vehicle that's in direct sunlight, that interior temps (can get over 150 F) which will irreversibly reduce the protection level.
Thank you SOOOOO MUCH for this video.
This is just the information I needed!!
Definitely informative. Idk how I was never subscribed to you. 🤔
Excellent video. I really like your style and ability to articulate the information so well.
Thanks so much!
Thanks for all the hard work. Great stuff.
I'm interested in seeing more work done with carbon nano tube plates. Saw some prototypes last year and was really impressed. Super thin, light and was level 3.
They have suit coats that are level 3..where is that technology? Should be heavily marketed
Excellent video twang n bang a review followed by a test you have answered all questions before being asked them
Thank you Twang I purchased last week the Veritas my first body armor Excited... I also used you discount code.
Awesome!
Thx for this video. I was sitting on the fence about this in backpack form for my kids so... yeah I’m getting couple.
Nice review, a Mil/cop could also take the steel armor for the torso and the lighter polymer one for the back.
The front would be the most risky area and with this hybrid choice there will still be a weight saving.
For the sides it would even be possible the use of dragonskin (the flexible armor) if they are still in business.
That will add a little extra weight for the sides protection.
Really cool to see someone show this stuff finally, I don't know about all that backface deformation though, doubt you could keep walking with those bumps. Alot of trade offs. Good vid
Not sure about that because the armor clearly didn’t move too violently off the rubber dummy. Might sting, but probably not debilitating.
TWANGnBANG yea after watching that again I have to agree with you. Good vid man keep it up.
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Yeah it looks like you'll walk away but with broken ribs
Still be breathing, thats the main thing.
jameswyrm8 Bruising? Definitely. Fractured Ribs? Possibly. Broken ribs? Doubtfully.
You can feel the rising tension whenever the tactical bathtub becomes involved.
Tactical Bathtub!!! That was good!
the code is still effective even today. Lvl 4 coming right up!
Nice informative vid.I like how you really got into the plates to show the results of the impacts but I must say,I was scared for you whenever you started using that knife,glad you shut the camera down at those times lol
Your channel is underrated. Your videography and verbiage is extremely professional.
Thank you!
Great video. I’ll have to look into the plates for my active shooter vest. When your already wearing soft body armor and a duty belt, putting on steel plates over that adds up.
That would be a good combo.
The fact there is no spalling is enough to choose these over 500 steel.
Great review. Comprehensive and informative. Thank you. Let’s hope competition and demand can bring the price down a little more. For the time being steel is king.
Great video! Never seen this before! I will actually wear this armor.
Your Arctic/winter warfare pattern tactical bath tub is impressive
Nice video. Well done
Awesome sauce I sure hope they make sizes larger than the 12x10 though
I love ur channel keep up the good work
Thanks!
Great video, subbed.
So the first iteration of Clone Trooper armor.
Would be cool to make a set of Stormtrooper armor with UHMWPE.
TWANGnBANG I cant do it. But you can. So try it :3 we want to see it built. Hehe
WATCH THOSE WRIST ROCKETS!
And they said storm troopers looked like cheap pastic, this proves star wars is realistic
@You? Me? Who? kinda it was only made to survive glancing plasma bolts, and light bolts, envirment, and shrapnel. It can be burned through woth stronger shots.
That’s impressive! Thank you.
Hope they make a level 3+ rated UHMWPE plate rated to stop m855 green tip. Some other companies do and there getting the plates down to 5lbs
Angel Armor Truth Snap 855.... Stops m855 green tip and weighs under 3 pounds. Level III plates start at 1.45 pounds....
Excellent video
I found this very informative, thanks!
Thanks for watching!
I'm into bangen and may soon be into twangen . So I subbed.
That`s some serious Bodyarmor! And so lightweight! Interessting. :) I would love to see that bodyarmor in Escape from tarkov.
They already have some armors with UHMWPE in them. Look at the info of the armors and you'll find a few with polyethylene as the armor type.
Nicely done.
I'll keep this in mind when I become a scuba assassin.
In this case. We add body armor on and around our shoulders with neck protection slats. Plus around our loins and groin.
what is the shelf life on these please ?
5 years does not sound like much
Good work on floating armor and light weight.
This armor is also part of the total package of different materials used in the M-1 Abrams tank, of course it is much thicker and the total package also includes cold rolled homo- genius steel plate, depleted uranium, Kevlar and carbon fiber on the inside to catch any spalding or fragments of the other layers shooting out and bouncing around the interior.
In extreme cases I use one of these plates in my carrier on the outside of my steel plate in the front panel if I don't have a lot of moving around to do.
I could see that armor being very effective for LEOs, they could effectively replace the lvl 2 soft pads in their carriers with the UHMWPE lvl 3. They would weigh about the same, and gain them see protection. Other use would be Seals (especially SWCC), Cost Guard port and river patrols, game wardens on lake patrol, Navy boarding parties, or really anyone on the water.
In my testing on NIJ .08, it took 2 rounds in the exact same spot no problems. The 3rd hit, in the exact same spot, went through on 7 tests (several different loads of 5.56 and 308).
what is the best price for AR500 Armor Level III Lightweight UHMWPE Body Armor 10" x 12"?
great video you did a great job showing off that plate
Thanks!
The floatation aspect could be a big thing. Not so much here in AZ, but it is still a great feature.
LOVING the tactical bathtub
Very interesting, what is your view on Dyneema please, I've reinforced my Kevlar NIJ ll vest with sheets of Dyneema back and front 8 layers thick, unfortunately here in Britain I cannot test it so I am just putting my faith in it iff it's ever needed, thank you, atb, Paul 👍🏻🇬🇧
Literally just got a Spartan carrier with IIIa front plate, A IIIa back plate, and 2 side plates for $175 total after tax and shipping. Bam. Labour day sales!
From where ?
Talk about a come up.
Fuck. I knew that was a million dollar idea. I used to work in a UHMW polymer production warehouse. I took home a 1 foot by 1 foot and 2 inch deep section of the denseist material we had and everything I shot it with stopped the rounds. Glad to see someone is capitalizing on it.
I feel ya zombie tanker 1 shoulda coulda woulda! I still kick myself for missed ops!
I just recently ordered a pair of UHMWPE plates. It'll be interesting to see how much it helps reduce the pull of loaded magazines in the water. Definitely going to swim in it.
Very cool. I would definitely buy this body armor.
How many layers do they use? How thick is 1 layer?
Their ceramic plates catching 30-06 ap is pretty impressive
That's a nice set up
Im an Old Marine (former) I love my AR5oo Steel Plate but it sure is heavy now that im pushing 55yoa but Im gonna stick with the steel thanks for the breakdown
Semper Fi
Glad the info was helpful!
NRSS Cheatham ii
Should watch the video where they get a 50 cal BMG and and shoot clear threw the AR plate and the plastic armour stops it dead, not sure about what brand was the plastic polycarbonate plate was.
will the uhmwpe armor structure will be broken when exposed to consistent wet and high humidity environment ?
Thanks for the review! I gotta one...and one of those tactical bathtubs. Lol.
Thanks for an awesome video
Wow thats quite impressive!!
.... So if we add a thin metal layer can we get this in ODST black and mjorlnir green? Asking for a friend.
Tactical bathtub 🤣🤣🤣 excellent vid. Thanks
Good job getting it apart. Most interesting part of the demo.
Would have been interesting to see what a penetrator round would have done. Like would it go through like butter, or would it have been slowed down a lot and just barely squeak through.
If they put a thin layer of the titanium Honeywell mesh in the plastic armor that is in some current armor it should stop green tips.
I accidentally noticed uhmw wss quite resistant to penetration and wondered if i would see this eventually. It seems like a combination of three materials would combine multiple benefits.
thanks , interesting. armor selection sometimes complicated. 👍🇺🇸
Nice triangular grouping. :-)
Is UHMWPE effected my high heat? For instance if I leave it in my car in the summer. Seems I remember hearing something about that but not sure.
That is a problem with soft armor but not the hard armor.
Thanks! At that sale price this is very appealing!
Supposedly the saying goes "If you wouldn't shut yourself in said high heat environment you shouldn't leave your PE armor there". PE can be damaged by continued exposure to high heat.
Hundreds of degrees more than a human can survive kind of heat, yes. Continuously, too. I know the polyethylene business. You're NEVER going to affect the integrity of that armor at anything less than 150F, no way, ever. You would need direct heat at more than 400F to do this, or a continuous heat to make it pliable at at least 250F.
Yes, in car temperatures in Arizona and other warmer climates can easily reach temperatures to compromise UHMW. On a 120 degree day, the average in-car temperature will reach 168-170 degrees after 90 minutes. Even in a more normal place, a 100 degree day will still reach 150 degrees.
"This Ultralight plate is manufactured on an ISO-certified production line, but you should know that the ballistic performance of all Polyethylene may be adversely affected, or permanently reduced, by prolonged exposure to ambient temperatures below ~ MINUS 15°F ( - 26 °Celsius) and over 150 °F (65 ° Celsius)."
Very good!!!!! Price?
could this replace kevlar helmets?
you are a good salesman.....presenting costs/benefits in a easy to follow format. This is great for the frontal body mass hit but what about the flesh exposed to hot lead....anything for that?
Any neutral crank bait fishing lure I have after you get it to depth, it will float to the top if left.
So It's basically like a linothorax. Basically a bunch of sheets of soft but strong material stacked on top of one another and bonded together. The linothorax was basically made up of many sheets of linen (remember that the linen they used is stronger than the chemically treated and processed mass produced linen we commonly see today) tightly bonded together with animal glue. Very effective against slashes and arrows but not so much against blunt force. This seems to have the same advantages as well as disadvantages due to the similar construction but with stronger material I assume.
My question is why not pair this with the steel plate? Like rather than having the armor have that many layers instead get rid of like a 5th and then have it attacked to a steel plate. It'll be larger and heavier I guess.
Awesome ! just bought 2
Was watching this good video, then I heard the 12:30 train. Gotta run!
Awesome semi auto bolt action! Must be like one of them "ghost" guns
I really can work a bolt fast.
TWANGnBANG love your vids, keep them coming!
Wouldn't the suppressor slow down the rounds
Only if it comes with back up .30 Caliber Magazine Clips... otherwise No Bueno!
sinformant Theres a cut in the video after the first shot dipshit.
How much of a difference does multicurve make? Would it be considered enough of a difference to warrant the extra cash over the same level of protection flat plates?
Awesome! Where can I get a tactical bathtub? LOL
...at the Tactical bathroom store... that's where I got mine...
James Wewerka Can you also get Tactical Soap and Tactical Toilets there?
Great content
I need two..plus sides..wonder how much this is?
Something else to consider is that the plastic armor does not have edge to edge coverage, l believe. I think it's something like 2 inches from the edge is not as protected. Ar500 armor did a video on the differences in coverage but that weight difference is crazy. Two of these plates weigh less than one steel plate (they were able to reduce the weight on the plastic armor to 2.7 lbs).
Reminds me of Vietnam frag armor. About 150 green garbage bags layered together to stop frag.
what type of UHMW pe is made of?
Great review. How is it with edge weapons?
I know this is an old thread. I've worked with solid (not layered) uhmwpe in sheet form about 5/8" thick. It's tougher than ply wood but easily toolable with power tools. I can't imagine the force necessary to stab through it. At least similar to plywood. I'd imagine this layered stuff is tougher.
For Extra Protection even though it doesn't go through so you don't have the lumps could you add a thin steal 500 armor plate on the back between your chest and the plastic? Also so the steel can stop the impact if around goes through the plastic.
They must have forgot to include the free tube of AR500 AsstroPlate jelly, that also comes in handy on those lonely nights when its just you your body armor an AR10 and Rosey palms😜 hehe
Thanks for the video I won't get any plastic body armor because you showed that after several hits close together the bullets would be going threw the plastic armor.
What’s the weight on that plastic plate
Lol. Instead of 'Yoo Heiij Emm Double-You Pee Eee', just call it Dyneema.
Still the best (literal) breakdown vid of this type of rifle plate on YT, thanks man..
Dyneema is a brand name. It’s like calling all off-road vehicles “jeeps.”
I kind of want one but at the same time that looks like it hurts a whole lot more than if you have ar500 steel armor. I wonder what kind of damage it would do to your body after getting shot by a rifle.