idk what I was expecting, but after pouring 40 hours into Sparking Zero and finally taking a break to watch Daima, I was NOT expecting to watch parts of the Buu saga reanimated in phenomenal quality along with an actual interesting story setup. Dragon ball truly is back this is fucking insane
Monaito said that yes. I do hope we get to learn more about the namekians origins. @Nemba34 I've been theorising that for years now so it's nice to have confirmation though what's on mind is more so the third eye thing. Watch Tien be involved now 😂 If anything it looks like the "crown eye" thing on Demigra's forehead. That cannot be a coincidence.
The hour time limit still exists for the potara for mortals. When vegito got absorbed he still had time left but buu’s gasses forcefully separated them. When kai’s fuse they are permanently bonded and that’s why they needed buu.
i take that as a confirmation that Toriyama had already feed Toyotaro with some ideas for the future of Dragonball, which mean when DBS comeback we should be rest assured that Toyotaro story for at least one more arc was verified by Toriyama-sensei.
its not necessarily his last work it was just the last work he had announced, its very possible that he worked on more stuff upcoming they just didnt announce it yet
Love them clarifying that Namekian were originally from the Demon Realm. It ties together Piccolo's origins nicely. When he was considered a demon back in Dragon Ball, that was actually partially true. Namek's aren't just Aliens that are Aliens and Demons.
My ONE gripe with the character designs is how SHORT Bulma is. She is canonically taller than Vegeta and now she essentially looks like his brother's wife.
16:48 they’re both right, it just hadn’t been an hour when buu defused them and they weren’t putting out enough power to over clock the fusion like in super. Mortals still defuse after an hour, buu’s insides just end the fusion early like a shutdown button
A lot of lore dumping. Demon King Piccolo ends up actually being a Demon, maybe even the Demon King before Dabura and Abra is huge for us old heads. The fusion stuff is fun because it's just a massive troll on the DBZ community
I think the “retcon” is only to stay true to what happened at the time because at the time that’s what they thought happened because if they fixed the reason it wouldn’t make sense for the black arc for vegeta and goku being so hesitant to fuse
Shin literally doesn’t find out that potara fusion is temporary for mortals u til gawasu reveals it to them. Until goku black arc shin always thought the fusion was permanent. It was only when gawasu tells them it isn’t is when he knows the truth.
Another perspective on the Potara thing (I'm talking as it pops up). Given that Trunks establishes the timeline by saying he is 9 when he was 7 in the Buu Arc and 10 in Super. This is taking place before the Goku Black arc where Whis told them about Fusion differences between Gods and Mortals. So, this may just be the writers showing us how they rationalized the fusion split given the info they had at the time. Also that means certain info we have to take with a grain of salt since while they are fleshing out the world, they (the writers) are cognizant of where this falls in the timeline and what characters are expected (or not expected) to know by then. So, we as fans also have to take that approach as well.
11:00 I mean, every sayain is named after vegetables what do you expect? 😅 Raditz/radish Kakarot/carrot Broly/Broccoli are the easy ones Gohan is cooked rice, nappa is grape vines etc
Also Bibidi, Babadi and Buu are just named after the magical words from Cinderella, it's totally in line with with Abura and Dabura. Just wait till we meet Dabura's secret heir Kadabura
Hey sage heads up, the defuse thing in super still stands, they said that there is a specific gas that also reverts potara fusion as well not only the time limit/ power limit.
@@EatonArrsenik not what I'm talking about, after his death and before the episode came out, people all of the sudden were getting excited about the show. It went from a mostly hated on to getting hyped.
Yea this is before they were told about the time limit but this just confims Buu makes Potara fusions end but doesnt eliminate time/race being another actor
I love daima and its different timeline. It’s cool that the nameless namek was a demon that spilt into two halves one became literal god and king piccolo who was an actual demon. So piccolo is a demon god lol.
At least all the new info is still canon. For example, in the Granolah arc, we learn that Namekianans aren't from this realm. Now in Daima, we learn it was the demon realm.
Shin literally doesn’t find out that potara fusion is temporary for mortals u til gawasu reveals it to them. Until goku black arc shin always thought the fusion was permanent. It was only when gawasu tells them it isn’t is when he knows the truth
This show is working on the info we had pre battle of Gods(Shin's "knowledge," which is nothing). The rules set by super are probably still canon, but Daima is so weird. Like, why is it so good?!
@@jasonblack2477 That's interesting considering there has been only one episode out. Can you fathom the idea that 30 minutes isn't long enough to world build, recap and flesh out the enemies personalities?
@@jasonblack2477 They aren't fully fleshed out yet, there wasn't enough time like I said in the previous comment. It seems strange to come to verdict before you get the full picture
there is no retcon do u guys not read? its literally in dragon ball super manga chapter 23 when they were talking to gowasu, SHIN SAID " AH SO BACK WHEN U FOUGHT BUU...! THATS WHY THE FUSION CAME UNDONE... ? SO THEN IT WASN'T BECAUSE OF BUU MAGIC POWER....IT WAS JUST BECAUSE OF TIME. I HAD NO IDEA..."
@@77dd2 if u could read u would understand.he literally said he thought it was only buu power he didn't realize there was a time limit for mortal fusing.so how is that a retcon when he has no idea of mortal fusing last a hour and Kai fusing last forever.
Before anyone says RETCON about the portara stuff they could potentially fuse at the end of Daima still meaning what we learn about the portara in Super to be true
Sage this is set befrore super but after buu so this is befoee goesu reveils that non deitys are a temporary fusion with patara so they still believe buu magic was the reason
the og Kid Goku VA came back. The trailer was a lil bit shaky but it sounded like a bunch episode 1 sht - and it still sound better than the new one they try to use
@@Kevinmentell098 Toriyama stated that games, gt, etc are canon but in alternate timelines. But so far, Daima seems to be directly correlated to the main timeline, considering it is written and licensed by Toriyama. Also, it directly connects to info from the dbs manga.
Imma shot my wild theory, that old namek will be the final boss, proly become some sort of canon Omega Shenlong, or maybe a fusion of DK Piccolo and Omega Shenlong. Some sort of Namekian Dragon powered by three Dark Dragonball.
The entire premise of the antagonist thinking the Z Warriors would go to the Demon Realm didn't make sense to me. Why would they even need to go to the demon realm until now when you turned them into kids?
@@polartang250 tbh I don't know exactly how "canon" it is. However I can give some details. It was originally intended as a fairly simple side story like GT. Most likely to tide over until a continuation of DBS (as the manga was ongoing). However when Toriyama was asked for some input, he ended up adding and changing it so much it's largely his work now...Then he passed away. In that way, this is his last work on Dragon Ball unless something we don't know about was in being made. So the answer is it's probably canon now.
@@wolfgod6443 Also, Toriyama most likely filled in Toyotarou in about his plans for daima, considering that the granolah arc hints towards namekians being from the demon realm.
Daima confirming that Namek are Demons mean a confirmation that Toriyama had already feed Toyotaro with some ideas for the future of Dragonball, since Elder Mori said that Namek came from other realm in DBS manga. This mean when DBS comeback we should be rest assured that Toyotaro story, for at least one more arc, was verified by Toriyama-sensei. Also Twitch bros, please start bother sage to watch the dub. Not because i want him to watch sub instead, i mean that would be crazy, that would be messed up, it simply just because i thought dub is finer (YTTA).
idk what I was expecting, but after pouring 40 hours into Sparking Zero and finally taking a break to watch Daima, I was NOT expecting to watch parts of the Buu saga reanimated in phenomenal quality along with an actual interesting story setup. Dragon ball truly is back this is fucking insane
This is literally me fr
Hell yeah
Peak fiction indeed
They literally HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO COOK for Toriyama sensei 🙏🙌
@@DS123-gb8tf Saw the first 2 minutes with the colored manga panels and thought "Yeah, they cookin cookin"
Confirming Namekians are from the Demon Realm is fucking dope
DEMON KING PICCOLO RELEGITIMIZED!
ties everything up together
@@toomberrebmoot9244The Demon part yes, but the King part no. He always was a self proclaimed "King" after all.
Monaito said that yes. I do hope we get to learn more about the namekians origins. @Nemba34
I've been theorising that for years now so it's nice to have confirmation though what's on mind is more so the third eye thing.
Watch Tien be involved now 😂
If anything it looks like the "crown eye" thing on Demigra's forehead. That cannot be a coincidence.
@Nemba34why? I do not remember any information about pointy ears before that
The hour time limit still exists for the potara for mortals. When vegito got absorbed he still had time left but buu’s gasses forcefully separated them. When kai’s fuse they are permanently bonded and that’s why they needed buu.
cant believe this had to be explained.....lol
they used the dragonballs to defuse
@@momofleecy5743 later down the line
@@momofleecy5743in the super continuity they did
@@momofleecy5743They’ll probably refuse at the end of Daima because of a gag.
The reveal that everyone with pointy ears came from the demon realm is crazy
the supreme Kai's have pointy ears too tho
So is Popo from the demon realm?
@@robbiedontmiss Shit the way DBZA Showed him, I wouldnt be suprised if he founded the place.
Beerus/Champa have pointy ears...
@@TanookyTeneka We dont talk about those guys
Wait... they confirmed what the DBS Manga said about Namekians! "We Namekians come from a different realm altogether." Now it makes a lot of sense.
i take that as a confirmation that Toriyama had already feed Toyotaro with some ideas for the future of Dragonball, which mean when DBS comeback we should be rest assured that Toyotaro story for at least one more arc was verified by Toriyama-sensei.
The question I have is... how come Demon King Piccolo was aware of his demon realm roots, and the only Namekian to embrace it?
Real talk, this was Toriyama's last work, so I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy it without criticizing it too much.
its not necessarily his last work it was just the last work he had announced, its very possible that he worked on more stuff upcoming they just didnt announce it yet
The current rumor is that there's another movie coming out that will have been his actual last work@@remmborn8154
@@remmborn8154 I highly doubt it.
@@benevolence2926 actually I think there is another thing
Well, i dont think he'd mind...yaknow considering he's dead.
Love them clarifying that Namekian were originally from the Demon Realm. It ties together Piccolo's origins nicely. When he was considered a demon back in Dragon Ball, that was actually partially true. Namek's aren't just Aliens that are Aliens and Demons.
I was in 8th grade the last time dragon ball was dropping episodes. I'm a sophomore in college now. Ain't this some shit
That is some real shit lol
Bro same
U 2005 gang?
@@Invisibleboy999yup
@@AlikeCoolJordan18 W
Is nobody going to talk about Chiaotzu with a full head of hair?
Wasn't it just a hat?
Thats a hat
Demon dragonballs that can grant dark wishes - dope
Shin got a family - dope
Dragon ball getting serious world building? Unheard of
db always had world building it js was subtle ab it 😂
@@unrecognizablyyeah like bro are we didn’t learn a lot about the Kai’s angels gods of destruction and a very small amount about Zeno
White wishes and black wishes like yin and yang. Some crazy lore is being dropped before our eyes
Everyone who liked this comment and the comment it self has never read dragon ball if they believe this XD.
@@XenoVibezz dragon. Ball. Fans. Can’t. Read.
My ONE gripe with the character designs is how SHORT Bulma is. She is canonically taller than Vegeta and now she essentially looks like his brother's wife.
Pause
The artist likes fun size ig
16:48 they’re both right, it just hadn’t been an hour when buu defused them and they weren’t putting out enough power to over clock the fusion like in super. Mortals still defuse after an hour, buu’s insides just end the fusion early like a shutdown button
A lot of lore dumping. Demon King Piccolo ends up actually being a Demon, maybe even the Demon King before Dabura and Abra is huge for us old heads. The fusion stuff is fun because it's just a massive troll on the DBZ community
I think the “retcon” is only to stay true to what happened at the time because at the time that’s what they thought happened because if they fixed the reason it wouldn’t make sense for the black arc for vegeta and goku being so hesitant to fuse
there is no retcon all u have to do is read the manga
Shin literally doesn’t find out that potara fusion is temporary for mortals u til gawasu reveals it to them. Until goku black arc shin always thought the fusion was permanent. It was only when gawasu tells them it isn’t is when he knows the truth.
Everyone who liked this comment and the comment it self has never read dragon ball if they believe this XD.
Another perspective on the Potara thing (I'm talking as it pops up). Given that Trunks establishes the timeline by saying he is 9 when he was 7 in the Buu Arc and 10 in Super. This is taking place before the Goku Black arc where Whis told them about Fusion differences between Gods and Mortals. So, this may just be the writers showing us how they rationalized the fusion split given the info they had at the time.
Also that means certain info we have to take with a grain of salt since while they are fleshing out the world, they (the writers) are cognizant of where this falls in the timeline and what characters are expected (or not expected) to know by then. So, we as fans also have to take that approach as well.
Bro, I called it! I knew daima was gonna be good
11:00 I mean, every sayain is named after vegetables what do you expect? 😅
Raditz/radish Kakarot/carrot Broly/Broccoli are the easy ones
Gohan is cooked rice, nappa is grape vines etc
Ah yes and can’t forget prince vegetable
Also Bibidi, Babadi and Buu are just named after the magical words from Cinderella, it's totally in line with with Abura and Dabura. Just wait till we meet Dabura's secret heir Kadabura
Cabba/ cabbage Kale/kale 😬
I thought nappa was a type of cabbage
@@miah5561 in Japanese it's grape leaves, but it's also a type of cabbage 😂
@16:45 remember, shin is trash at his job and didn't know the mortal/immortal rule when it comes to the potara. He doesn't learn until later
That namekian is older than guru he’s like the og named. Could easily be main villain if he gets his youth back
“Fuck it”
“That’s just the way life gooees”😂😂😂
IM HYPED DRAGON BALL IS BACK
Hey sage heads up, the defuse thing in super still stands, they said that there is a specific gas that also reverts potara fusion as well not only the time limit/ power limit.
I only just now realized that Dabura is supposed to be from abra kaDABRA
We DBZ mfers eating too damn good 5 courses type shit
I’m hoping I get seconds I better chill Ion wanna be gluttonous but sheeessssh the food too good 🙏🏾‼️
Cougs storm connections
Its crazy how everyone was hating on this when the first trailer came out but then instatnly switch up when Akira died. Fake ah behavior 😂
Lol facts
Do you realize that you can change your mind? Watch the series then formulate an opinion... It's crazy how I have to explain this to you
Lmfao
@@EatonArrsenik not what I'm talking about, after his death and before the episode came out, people all of the sudden were getting excited about the show. It went from a mostly hated on to getting hyped.
Yea this is before they were told about the time limit but this just confims Buu makes Potara fusions end but doesnt eliminate time/race being another actor
I love daima and its different timeline. It’s cool that the nameless namek was a demon that spilt into two halves one became literal god and king piccolo who was an actual demon. So piccolo is a demon god lol.
At least all the new info is still canon. For example, in the Granolah arc, we learn that Namekianans aren't from this realm. Now in Daima, we learn it was the demon realm.
does anyone remember in the u6 tournament when shin says he defused used with the dragon balls and not majin buu's weird vapors lmaoo
WAIT DAMN I FORFOT ABOUT THIS FOR A SECC YOO
💀 nah
Shin literally doesn’t find out that potara fusion is temporary for mortals u til gawasu reveals it to them. Until goku black arc shin always thought the fusion was permanent. It was only when gawasu tells them it isn’t is when he knows the truth
This show is working on the info we had pre battle of Gods(Shin's "knowledge," which is nothing). The rules set by super are probably still canon, but Daima is so weird. Like, why is it so good?!
The villains were so hard to watch thats how boring they were lol
@@jasonblack2477 That's interesting considering there has been only one episode out. Can you fathom the idea that 30 minutes isn't long enough to world build, recap and flesh out the enemies personalities?
@@EatonArrsenik they were not fun dawg lol
@@jasonblack2477 They aren't fully fleshed out yet, there wasn't enough time like I said in the previous comment. It seems strange to come to verdict before you get the full picture
I think the hour thing and the buu atmosphere thing can both be right at the same time.
17:00 I believe that it is still an hour time limit. But being absorbed by Buu made them defuse before an hour passed by
Demon King Piccolo and his demon underlings all make sense now!
Bro showed dende needs to step his powers up , making us wait a whole year for the dragonballs
“I don’t see videl anywhere.” -ICoul… @2:59
there is no retcon do u guys not read? its literally in dragon ball super manga chapter 23 when they were talking to gowasu, SHIN SAID " AH SO BACK WHEN U FOUGHT BUU...! THATS WHY THE FUSION CAME UNDONE... ? SO THEN IT WASN'T BECAUSE OF BUU MAGIC POWER....IT WAS JUST BECAUSE OF TIME. I HAD NO IDEA..."
How can you say there is no retcon then proceed to explain why the said thing actually is a retcon
@@77dd2 if u could read u would understand.he literally said he thought it was only buu power he didn't realize there was a time limit for mortal fusing.so how is that a retcon when he has no idea of mortal fusing last a hour and Kai fusing last forever.
DRAGON BALLS BACKKKKKK
🔥🔥TORIYAMA COOKED WITH THIS ONE 🗣️🗣️
Wdym? Villains were boring af
@@jasonblack2477the first episode, chill out
@@jasonblack2477except that everyone is in love with them lol
@@jasonblack2477first episode luh
@@Vegito_editss it was boring to follow them
Before anyone says RETCON about the portara stuff they could potentially fuse at the end of Daima still meaning what we learn about the portara in Super to be true
Trunks being 9 tells us this is a year before Super happens, so no Whis explanation for them.
Was nervous at first but dude now I can’t wait for the next episode it’s too good
PEAK IS BACKKK
This angle makes this shin look like Zamasu not gonna lie 3:42
9:12 this is how they make the black star dragon balls cannon, sage...
Vegeta tried using explosion on an overweight gengar
Clefairy, Jigglypuff, licky licky, Ditto, even mew... Gengar is not it.
@@oldmanjesus9855 the joke was that he was using a normal type attack on a ghost type 😂
@@Whorpse oh my bad, that went right over my head. It makes sense and it's funny.
Bulma with the "Thugnificent Drip." To quote my watch buddy.🤣
Damn gt 2.0 looks pretty good
GOATBALL IS BACK
11:10 He was the same guy to write bibbidi babidi buu...
Black wish most likely means a bad (like not morally right/bad purpose) wish.
Im japanese but dont trust me that much I forgot a lot of it
Prolly means dark wish
Yeah basically what I mean 🤝
@@Yellow82511 considering a "white lie" is a harmless lie, I agree with your take.
Im pretty sure they still defuse within the hour its just buus magic can also be a way
looks pretty good excited for ep 2
0:43 you were impressed by that sun
I mentally glazed that sun!
If I could tune into streams, I would have to get at least one person to point out how Emperor Pilaf has ears resemblant of the Demon Realm😂😂
The 1 hour Vegito thing might be a setup from now
We can’t ignore the Super ish bc this doesn’t change that
I think Dr Anisu and the mystery character hiding behind the pillar is Toriyama making canon versions of Mira and Tora
So they cover why wishing the opps were dead isn’t possible, light confirms dark dragonballs, and namek lore. Nice first episode indeed
"Dragon, don't grant that wish - that man IS black!"
Sage this is set befrore super but after buu so this is befoee goesu reveils that non deitys are a temporary fusion with patara so they still believe buu magic was the reason
Dragonball is awesome 😎
NEW DRAGON BALL 🐉
WE'RE SO BACK 🙏🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
the og Kid Goku VA came back. The trailer was a lil bit shaky but it sounded like a bunch episode 1 sht - and it still sound better than the new one they try to use
I have no idea what people were talking about. I know people have opinions, but Masakos voice for goku is still really good.
THEY MADE GT CANON🔥!!!!!
Nah...still not canon
@@Kevinmentell098 it's Canon now🤫😏...
@@Major_money24 I see😁
@@Kevinmentell098 Toriyama stated that games, gt, etc are canon but in alternate timelines. But so far, Daima seems to be directly correlated to the main timeline, considering it is written and licensed by Toriyama. Also, it directly connects to info from the dbs manga.
@@BrandonLung Oh...thanks, I haven't had time to check any of his interviews
Imma shot my wild theory, that old namek will be the final boss, proly become some sort of canon Omega Shenlong, or maybe a fusion of DK Piccolo and Omega Shenlong. Some sort of Namekian Dragon powered by three Dark Dragonball.
I pray daima brings ss4 and other transformations
Finally, they're finally expanding on the lore we actually care about!
I really wish it wasnt more "after buu, before the end of Z" shenanigans
New lore i love it
hopefully this doesnt get taken down
Im raw watching off sage lmao, never seen this joint
Dabura was finally relevant at least for the first episode 😭
15:53 why goku roast vegeta 🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀
Shin brother on some shi 💀
I saw people hating on Daima already even after seeing this GORGEOUS first episode. It made me truly disappointed.
Always said no need for another dragon ball reboot but after seeing this animation they might have to run it back
New baddie discovered
It was god tier
We eating good.
Neva is pretty much the equivalent of a i want 3 more wishes wish
I wonder if Saiyans were originally from the demon realm
They pointed out their lack of pointy ears debunks that
I’ve watched too much abridged i thought mr.popo was gonna beat their ass
Looks like I missed a good stream yesterday
This is awesome I love it 🥰
we're watching DRA-GON BAAAALLL!!!
The entire premise of the antagonist thinking the Z Warriors would go to the Demon Realm didn't make sense to me. Why would they even need to go to the demon realm until now when you turned them into kids?
16:42 bro completely misunderstood.
Goat-kira Toriyama
9:18
Like black star. As in the Black star dragon balls.
I don’t think I’ve ever watching dragon ball in Sub 😂 it felt wrong but I’m not about to wait months to watch this
13:46 respectfully, we do not care, ITS DRAGON BALL WEKK, ITS DRAGON BALL YEAR 14:34 alright, you right on that, my bad
Daima takes place between Buu Saga and DBS. In case anyone is still confused.
This maybe a dumb question but is it canon to the story or another gt?
@@polartang250 tbh I don't know exactly how "canon" it is. However I can give some details. It was originally intended as a fairly simple side story like GT. Most likely to tide over until a continuation of DBS (as the manga was ongoing). However when Toriyama was asked for some input, he ended up adding and changing it so much it's largely his work now...Then he passed away. In that way, this is his last work on Dragon Ball unless something we don't know about was in being made.
So the answer is it's probably canon now.
@@wolfgod6443 Also, Toriyama most likely filled in Toyotarou in about his plans for daima, considering that the granolah arc hints towards namekians being from the demon realm.
At this point, Dragon ball become chibi-s but im all here for it :D
Daima confirming that Namek are Demons mean a confirmation that Toriyama had already feed Toyotaro with some ideas for the future of Dragonball, since Elder Mori said that Namek came from other realm in DBS manga. This mean when DBS comeback we should be rest assured that Toyotaro story, for at least one more arc, was verified by Toriyama-sensei.
Also Twitch bros, please start bother sage to watch the dub. Not because i want him to watch sub instead, i mean that would be crazy, that would be messed up, it simply just because i thought dub is finer (YTTA).
Finally after years of "WHAT ABOUT DABURAAAA??" Well... Here ya go. LMAO
Black star dragon balls cannon in the future ??? 👀
Vegeta already has 3 dubs against goku cant wait voor. 4 rhe one
Also daimia its looks funn
Well you how to ignore super considering this takes place right after the boo ark