Living in the countyside our old broadband was about 3Mb/s and upgraded to BT infinity. BT promised 18Mb/s. On installation the rate was only 9Mb/s in the house 8-(. It was 18Mb/s so there was significant lose House side of the master socket. I ordered a new modern master socket, i- plate and VDSL filters. This got the rate upto 16Mb/s. I then replaced the flat router cable with a new twisted quality cable from the router to the socket. This took the rate upto 19Mb/s pleased to get over 15Mb/s and shocked by how much difference the quality lead made! It added the same amount of speed we used to have again. The whole nation could internet speed could increase by 15% of decent leads were used.
lol never trust there techs... they got no idea... just read from a how to list LOL... I put mine on the pots spliltter and it worled... after the guy tried every phone line in the house LOL.... and after me telling him go off the pots, I FILTER the lines to the phones with one filter.... lol he didnt clue in, POTS splitter.....(Plain Old Telephone System, is 6th grade Knowledge here LOL
I was looking for a video to explain the benefits of the filter plate and a quality patch lead and came accross this. When you mentioned your old ebay name I realised I bought one of your cables back in 2012. Still going strong. Great work.
Wow!! I did exactly what you said Vince...VDSL faceplate, hub to within a metre of master socket, 2 cat6 cables purchased from your good self. For the last 10 years+ the best speed I was getting was 4-5 meg. Immediately after, I got an extra 1.5 meg, and a week later the line has stabilised at nearly 11 meg!!! Either BT has coincidently tweaked my line, or your advice has really paid off! Cheers mate, keep up the good work!
I've had problems with my boardband for ages and was going from 1.2 Upto 2.5 but sometimes down to 0.7 even 0.04!!! So Got pissed off and called up Sky! They did a line test and found the fault was in my house!! Opened the master socket! Found on the ADSL face plate cover the Orange pair wiring on connection 2 & 5 where poorly fitted!! Used my Cronin tool (punch down tool) and now! Up to 4.2MB!!!! So happy now. Wish i done it years ago!! Thanks for your Help dude
i work for the dsl company in belgium, this guy knows what hes talking about :) always use 1 filter at the entry point and seperate DSL from fone connections. i can add one little piece of advice for this video, if you have VDSL, these connections work with an outmatic speed profiling system done by the street cabinet, it might take a few days before your connection can move up to a higher profile, the street cabinet needs time to test your line. also if you turn off your modem at night, this system might think your line is not working as it should and put you in a lower category. great video dude!
Hi Vince, I had a drop in speed for three weeks and could not even watch movies via my android tv box. Max speed was 4mbs. I bought your cable and an openbox MK3 faceplate filter on Ebay, fix them today and my download speed was doubled. Speed test is now 8mbs. Wow! Amazing. Continue with the good work. I am waiting delivery of my BT infinity in 2 days time and can't wait to hook them up with your cable. Thank you very much for this post.
Vince, fantastic videos!!! I've got crackle on the phone line so I'm about to do some work on the internal socket. It's also in a dreadful position with no power, so I'm going to move my master socket box. I'm thinking of using one of the gel filled extensions (from your other video about fixing the drop wire) to extend the drop wire and neaten up the wiring outside my house, this will allow me to drop it down to my basement where my router & switch sit with cat 5 fed to the rest of the house. I don't have fiber but thinking of the future I'm err-ing to the VDSL box as it's loads less wiring and I'm not going to need a phone extension box as I plan to plug my router in the basement and then run a standard phone extension cable from the main socket to the room above so my phone base unit is direct to the master socket too. This is the ideal. I've checked the plug inside the main box so the drop wire is sound, but of course I'm not sure if the extension part of the box is. If I use the old box to connect my drop wire to in the basement and then plug a VDSL socket on top assuming I'm not putting an extension in then I'm assuming I won't need to wire up anything else, so just drop wire -> main box -> VDSL plug in -> face plate. Connect router to top socket and phone to the bottom socket... is this right? If not I guess I need to buy a brand new master socket as well as a VDSL socket and the connector for the drop wire. Thanks again, so impressed with how clear your videos are.
Blimey, I wish it was you dealing with my broadband problems! I have had nothing but trouble from BT since being in this this house (8 yrs!). Have now had 6 weeks of continual problems, and they still haven't fixed it! All the engineers that have ever been out have always said that my extension lead from my main BT socket downstairs to my PC modem upstairs wasn't a good idea. I am disabled and unable to work so don't have a lot of money, but this time I finally gave in and asked for a secondary phone line to be run off the main socket to upstairs. I didn't get that... Got a data cable instead, so now have no phone socket upstairs.....and broadband is worse than ever!
Great video about phone sockets ive seen. One question. in the setup at 4:35 If I added the router to the extension socket, would I need a microfilter?
I thought the filters stopped high frequency appearing over voice connection. The voice frequencies are too low to appear over the adsl range. That is why the adsl connections connect unfiltered to bt/openreach wiring. So just wire one end of router cable into the extension connections and use the microfilter for phone only. Personally I don't have landline phone plugged in, so just wired home hub directly into extension connections without filter.
Hi VinceThe VDSL plate that you fit at around 3:50 into the video is I assume the same as BT Mk 3 VDSL plates that Openreach install now on fibre connections? I am using these filter plates on ADSL as I find them to be better than the other ADSL specific filter plates. Could you please confirm something for me, If I wire up the Mk 3 plate to carry the broadband signal to an extension socket, could you please confirm which wire goes on the A and B connections. Is it Blue/White in "A" with White/Blue in "B"? Also, just to double check when using an NTE 5 plate as an extension socket, is it Blue/White in "B" with White/Blue in "A"?Finally, what would be the consequences of wiring incorrectly? Does it really matter that much? I know that the cable pair coming in from the street isn't pole specific so if you just have a black pair (like we had until last Friday when Openreach changed our cable) you could use either wire in A or B.Sorry for all the questions and thank you for posting all of your videos, I have found them very handy over the last couple of years when trying to fix things :)
+amrob2 Hi, that particular VDSL faceplate was a MK1 but the MK2 and MK3 look the same. I wire them up white/blue to A and blue/white to B but it will not make a difference which way round they go. You shouldn't use an NTE5 as an extension because it will confuse either a future phone engineer or future customer as normally they are the 1st socket in the house but if you do then yes you have the correct colour code.Many thanks Vince
Hi Vince. Great videos. Can you let me know what I need for the following set up and then what bits I need from your ebay shop. My main telecom line comes in the rear of my house in my bedroom upstairs into a junction connector box. This goes across the bedroom to the other side of the room where there is a master socket. I would like to keep a socket for the telephone in my bedroom and move the master socket downstairs to the lounge. My question is do I need to run cable all the way down to the lounge from the junction box in the bedroom to the master socket and then all the way back along the same route to the bedroom to a telephone socket or is there another way. I would like to use the new VDSL sockets as I've just had fibre installed. Can you offer any advice. Regards Seth
Vince, tried one of the newer NTE5 Masters over my old [with surge protector / Zener Diode?] - In any case it did not help so I have put my old one back on! As usual YMMV!!!
Hi Vince. My vdsl (Openreach mk 3) box is in the attic and not easily accessible. I'm currently on ADSL but have Fibre to the Home (we live in the countryside and it's just being rolled out) on order. I'd like the HomeHub 5 to be more accessible (and better positioned for WiFi) - Can I use a Cat5e cable to extend the HH5 to another room?
Hi Vince, I know this is a really old video but I have a question about the 2nd plate you held up the the video, the VDSL plate for FTTC I have the same plate on my master socket and noticed there are A/B terminals on the top left. Are these for if you want to push the internet signal through to another socket in the house? I have a 2 pair telephone extension running upstairs that I only want internet on, so do I just wire 1 pair directly into the A/B terminals and terminate with an RJ11 box? I understand there are loads of places I could ask this but I trust your judgement. Thanks in advance!!
Great videos Vince but a question If I can please. My Home Office is in a bedroom at the rear of the house and my master socket is in the living room at the front. I've been having some broadband issues and need to check over all the wiring and maybe do some changes. So, is it better to have my router by the master socket and link to my PC in my office via WiFi or to have the router connected to an extension in the office and the PC connected to the router via an Ethernet cable (As it is now)? As other things also use the WiFi, notably my son constantly streaming TH-cam or online gaming (Often both at the same time!) I don't want the WiFi to be a limiting factor
Hi Vince, Great video. I currently live in a property with no master socket. Phone line goes into garage then extension box feeding three rooms. Cable up to box is only old 2-core cable. I'm considering removing the extension and installing master socket next to the router then attaching a proper ADSL faceplate. Do you think I'm likely to see a speed increase by doing this and is it worth replacing the 2-core cable that has been in the property since the 80's?
+Paul Welland Hi, it would be a good idea to fit a NTE5 master socket and ADSL faceplate and hopefully you will benefit but unfortunately you will not know if it will make a difference until you have done it. If the 2 core cable is not twisted pair then it would be a good idea to change but again it may not make any difference depending on how the broadband is currently performing. If it is twisted pair then as long as it is not damaged/damp/faulty then it should perform as good as newer cable.Thanks Vince
Really clear and helpful videos; thanks. I have ASDL and an NTE5 master socket. I'm with BT. I have BT wifi home hotspot plugs. Is the home hotspot kit compatible with me adding a VDSL faceplate and a CAT5e cable to my set up? Thanks
Delphine Holopherne-Doran Hi, thanks for the message. It will be compatible because the Wi-Fi hotspot plugs are connected after the router and these VDSL faceplates and cat5 cable are connected before the router.Hope that helps.Many thanks Vince
Hi Vince, Just wondering if all of the NTE5a sockets you sell are the newer model with the surge protector removed? I'm getting BT Infinity connected next week and your videos are really helping me plan my new setup. Thanks!
Hiya. Hope its not a silly question but how would I find my master socket in a new build house pls? Also, will disconnecting the 'bell wire' alone speed up my connection? Tia Andy
Finding quality rj11 to rj45 cables is very tricky! I see plenty of RJ45 cables but I am thinking that an RJ11-RJ45 adapter would cause some kind of bottle neck?
I recently brought a decent microfilter XF-1e and I had a download speed of 11mb changed to the xf up to 13 I have ordered a thicker cat5e Adsl router wire hopefully it will increase speed
Useful video Vince. I have question about the replacing the cable as you suggested. If you have a BT Home Hub 5 do you need the RJ11 connection or can it be done with an RJ45 to back of the hub?
swedey84 Hi the back of the Home Hub will always be a RJ11 no matter which version you have. It is the other end you need to look at (the wall socket end) to determine whether you need a RJ11 or RJ45, if you have microfilter plugged into the socket then you have to have RJ11 but if you have a larger faceplate plugged in (either an ADSL faceplate or a VDSL faceplate) then a RJ45 will fit (see my other video on superfast broadband to see these different faceplates and the cable).Many thanks Vince
Hello Vince, I am about to move over to sky fiber and looking to move the router into my living room hoping to get a better connection for gaming. I currently have a standard master socket in the hallway with one plug to a microfilter then phone and router. What would be the best way to extend my broadband connection while keeping loss of speed to a minimum?
Hi Vince, i have a question. I don't have any phone extensions in the house and just the mastersocket. The mastersocket that i have currently is the old non-nte5 type. If i want to install the nte5 with vdsl filter built in, do i just wire the two cables at the back and then just connect the vdsl faceplate on top without having to wire that up too?
Bash Zam Hi, yes that is right, you will not need to wire up the front plate if you have no extension wiring. You may not see any difference in speed if you don't have any extension wiring. Normally when fitting an ADSL or a VDSL faceplate the best increases in speed are seen if you have a lot of extensions.Thanks Vince
You wouldn't by any chance know/be able to hazard a guess as to how much approx. 20m of CAT5e spec cable between the router/modem and the master socket might impact downstream/upstream speeds would you? Since we'll have two desktop PCs upstairs I'd ideally like to have the router (HH5 with built-in VDSL modem), along with it's gigabit switch, upstairs aswell. There's conduit installed already, carrying the phone extensions, but there isn't really enough room to fit two 4-pair CAT5e cables up to link both PCs. The cable itself would be CW1724 BT cable (CAT5e spec but with only two twisted pairs to cut down on bulk) punched down into the unfiltered pass-through DSL IDC terminals in the VDSL faceplate. IIRC it's essentially the same stuff BTOR would install as part of their "VDSL extension kit".
Hi Vince, well presented. I have a question about my setup. My master socket is upstairs, while the computer etc is downstairs, I currently run an extension from the master down to the extension socket, the router and phone is plugged into that. I was thinking of running a cat 5e cable instead of the usual phone extension wire, from the master down to the extension and plug the router and phone into that, would this help in increased speed and stability?
Zuber Ismail Hi, it may or may not make a difference if the current extension is copper and twisted pair like a BT telephone cable. You could try first just disconnecting the ringer wire on terminal 3 to see if that makes any difference.Thanks Vince
My Mate VINCE Thanks form the quick reply. it's not a twisted pair, and seems like it's very poor quality. I'll probably give it ago, as my router keeps dropping connection and I have to reboot almost every day. Thanks again.
Can you tell the % increase of speed after variation. I have such a situtation (long flat double copper wire to modem/router) but I can't imagine a better solution because mt DATA CENTER (just my humble home computer) is in a room far from main line telephone socket). All those considerations also hinder my passage to FFTH or whatever. I would like tradional voice telephony + FFT(x). Does anyone know how to proceed?
Hi, from memory the one in the video was the MK1 version without any branding (no Logos). The ones I have now have the MK3 circuits insides but they are a different design but you can still buy MK3 versions in the same design as the one in the video from eBay and Amazon.
Feed into master - to extension - extension to filter - filter to router - router to computer? Sod that malarkey 😂 I use my mobile phone - turn on the hotspot - Bingo it's on whatever room I'm in. No cables at all 👍🏼😊 Speed is great - I can stream live TV - watch TH-cam - download games to different tablets - whilst talking on the mobile 👍🏼 Data used each month is approx 190 - 230 Gb per month price £18.99 inc unlimited calls and data allowance unlimited. 😊👍🏼👍🏼 4G is way forward not all this BT cables and box's - no point.
the extension thing where I've got my hub connected to.. That's all I can find, this master socket your showing here is no where to be found.. I'm starting to realise why I'm not getting any upload speed now haha.. it's driving me crazy though
Hey Vince, great vid - thanks. :) Question - have a VDSL master socket in the hall (inconveniently) - other sockets in the house. A BT HH5 doesn't seem to get a braodband signal from these other socket in the house except the master socket (even using filters on the other sockets) - telephones do work from these sockets though. Is there an easy way to make one of the other sockets in the house into the master VDSL/ADSL socket to get a signal into the HH5? Thanks again for the great vids!
+Rafkoo Hi, if you have an ADSL or VDSL faceplate then the broadband signal will not travel through to the other extensions. If you look at the video that has 'increase your broadband by 60%' in the title then this explains a way you can use the spare wires in the extension sockets to move your router. You will not have any increase in speed over using the master socket but it might be helpful for you if you want to move your BT HH5.Thanks Vince
+My Mate VINCE Thanks Vince, I did have a look - I think I basically need to pull the cables from 2 and 5 in the VDSL plate and connect them to the A/B points on VDSL plate. Then ensure that the same coloured cables are connected to the middle two points of the extension socket. I think... :D
+Rafkoo Hi, it would be best to use the spare wires otherwise you will lose your phone extensions. Also you need to terminate the end of the run onto a RJ11 or RJ45 socket so you can plug your BT HH5 lead into it. The other way is to run a new completely separate cat5e ADSL cable from the VDSL plate to the new location.Thanks Vince
+My Mate VINCE Thanks again for your time Vince. I did try with a spare (green pair) at the weekend - there is a green pair that wasn't connected to the VDSL plate ... and a green pair at the extension socket ... I connected these to A/B at the VDSL and at the extension socket to the spare two terminals (NOT the middle two - middle two were taken already). This didn't work - but maybe I'll try again into the middle two? RE: RJ11 socket - could I not terminate the wires at the standard telephone socket (where the green pair go to) and use the HH5 with and use a filter? Will the BT HH5 not like this?
Great set of videos, thanks. In my situation, it's inconvenient to have both the router AND the phone by the master socket. Can I run an extension similar to the one shown here, and plug them both in to that?
Mel Powles Hi, if you have a normal NTE5 master socket WITHOUT any ADSL or VDSL faceplates and you want the phone and the router in a different location you will need to run a normal phone extension to the new location and plug a micro filter into the new extension socket. I have another video on how to run a normal phone extension.Many thanks Vince
It would make more sense for a better connection but then you will have to run 2 cables, one cable for the router and one cable for the phone, so more work is involved. Thanks Vince
Hi Vince. My router is hard wired to my PC upstairs and my master socket is downstairs. In your video you say that I would still need a filter for my router extension point but I wondered if it is still worthwhile upgrading the faceplate to VDSL (rather than just an i-plate) to avoid the need for filters on the other extensions
Hi, unfortunately if you fit the VDSL faceplate then the router can only be plugged into the VDSL faceplate which in your case would be downstairs in the master socket. The router will no longer work in any extension sockets. You can run a dedicated data extension or push the signal through spare wires in the extension but this is getting quite involved. See my other videos on how to move your router or increase speed etc. Thanks Vince
Thanks for that info Vince - I'll get the i-plate then. I am upgrading to Sky Fibre and wondered if I need to install VDSL filters in the other extension sockets I am using as well as the Sky Hub one, rather than use the 'old' ADSL ones I already have? Regards, Alistair.
Good ADSL filters will work but I will be getting 'plug in dangly' VDSL filters in the next month so if you are not happy then you can get some VDSL versions.
Thanks Vince for all your informative videos. I was inspired to update an old 'Telecom' NTE socket with a new NTE5a + ADSL faceplate. We live in the sticks and about 5mb is the best broadband speed we can get so anything better would be an improvement. Following the installation (instructions carried out to the letter) the phone is fine and I have a strong signal from the router which is now close to the master socket. However, my broadband download speed has plummeted - not the result I was expecting - and I'm wondering what I have done wrong! I've read somewhere that it can take about three days for broadband to update and adjust itself - is this correct? Thanks, Alan.
Alan Stansfield Hi Alan, has the main incoming wire being 'teed' into. The ADSL faceplate needs to be the 1st socket on the line so double check that the line hasn't been split off (in an external or internal junction box) to another extension socket before the NTE5/ADSL faceplate.
HI Vince would replacing a standard telephone extension (15metre) with cat5/6 make a difference I can't afford the $400 for a power point next to the jack point,I know its better if you place the modem right next to the jack point but I cant afford the $400
+dcpmootown Hi, if you are replacing a flat extension lead then yes it may improve things but if your extension is already using proper telephone wiring such as copper twisted wires (like the telephone companies install) then it will be unlikely to make much difference.Thanks Vince
Is there a limit on the length of the cat5 cable. E.g run a continuous cable from the vdsl plate on the master socket to the router in another part of the house?
BT always recommended a maximum length of 30m on the ADSL cables. Some people have run 50m without problem and I am not sure why 30m was recommended as the maximum length. This was when ADSL first came out so maybe it might be different now.
@@Mymatevincetrust me you will Lough in Algeria we are still using ADSL and the max speed is between 2mbps 3mbps and we have only one lan cable not even crimped to an rj11 and a simple traditional filter to a phone and router
hi can you please tell me what lead I need to run from the phone socket back to the sky router. I change the Internet lead to a cat 5 lead like you said but need to change the other lead as it's a flat lead.
It will be hard for you to improve the speed but you could check that the bell wire is not connected (the orange wire on terminal 3, Google it for more info) and you could think about changing the ADSL lead to a cat5e or cat6 version which may make a slight improvement.
We don’t currently have phones plugged into the lines as we don’t use telephone devices apart from mobiles with their own mobile data plans. Do I still need a adsl splitter in order to use my modem. Or is there a cable I can buy that can go straight into wall socket from the modem. Would it be a RJ-45 cable I would need to buy or will it cause interference My main question is do I really need a splitter if I’m only using internet and if not is there a cable that does that also will it improve speed without it. Thanks in advanced
using the cable directly will cause internet problems when someone try to call your phone number. I don't know how it work in your country , but in my country you have to keep the phone active or else they will cancel your connection, so we have to use a filter. but if no one is trying to call or use the phone , the connection will work , i tried it for sometime and i didn't notice a difference , maybe because I have a 8 mbps plan
This one in the video is easier to fit because you do not have to disconnect and reconnect the actual extension wiring. Unfortunately I cannot get this version anymore so I have the different design for sale which you do have to pull the wires out of your existing front plate and them punch them onto the new VDSL faceplate so it is harder to install.
Hi, yes that is right, nice and easy, just undo the 2 small screws and use the longer screws that come with the VDSL faceplate and screw them back up again.
thanks alot for the info i ordered the faceplate and one of your cat6 DSL cables from your ebay shop, my new sky 76mbps fibre broadband goes live on the 30th of this month
Who wants something the size of a small brick sticking out from the wall. BT could have done such a better design job on their NTE's. They could have got all that technology into a "face plate" device that fitted into a standard 35mm or 47mm metal back box that could be sunken into the wall.
Hi there, I would like to ask a question if possible. I have just been switched to FTTC. I have my router connected to an extension socket I am getting 65mb down and 20up. When I connect to master socket I get 70mb down and 20mb up. And when I connect to test socket I get the full advertised speed by BT 80mbdown and 20up. Unfortunately it's not convenient to move the router to the test/master socket. Can you suggest a solution that would allow me to receive the full speed at the extension socket? I was thinking VDSL faceplate, then a long extension cable where I would like the router to be placed? Many thanks
+Rabee Behnam Hi, it may not produce the full speed but a better option would be a VDSL faceplate and then a long cat5e or cat6 VDSL/ADSL lead to your router location.Thanks Vince.
+Rabee Behnam Hi, yes I have both cat5e and Cat6 RJ45 to RJ11 cables in my ebay shop, go to mymatevince.com and you will see the link to my shop.Many thanks Vince
MrColakid11 Hi, I use Virgin Media (Cable broadband). They have been using FTTC (fibre to the cabinet) for many years and I have had no issues with them.Thanks Vince
Sarveen It may be worth testing the service at the test socket on the nte5 master socket and if it improves then you know you can sort out the internal wiring yourself or fit an adsl faceplate etc. Cheers Vince.
hi Vince it's me again lol the VDSL faceplate I ordered looks like the ADSL faceplate with connectors. will it do the same job as the one here that plugs into the test socket?
Hi, the version I have now looks like the ADSL faceplate although the components inside are the same as the MK3 VDSL version. I can't get that version in the video anymore but if you go to www.mymatevince.com then I have linked to an Amazon seller (not me) that does have them. Many thanks Vince.
vince would a vdsl line be fibre? im getting talk talk fibre broadband on the 19th of this month im a bit worried our socket is outdated I dont know when it was installed but it wasnt installed in the last 10 years. would a the vdsl filter be fine for this connection I dont fancy cocking up my phone line and having to pay for a engineer to come out to fix it thanks.
+tony terry Hi, yes a VDSL line is Fibre, FTTC (Fibre to the Cabinet). Maybe wait until the 19th to see how you line is performing and then if you are unhappy with the speeds then look into fitting a VDSL faceplate.Thanks Vince
Just did this today and it has improved my upload speed quite a bit thanks! However I did come across something weird. It would appear the BT engineer has been really lazy as the original faceplate was not wired in, and was just using the test socket. I now have the VDSL faceplate plugged in which is working fine for the internet but due to no wiring on the original faceplate I'm not actually getting signal to the phone anymore. Not a major problem as I don't use the phone but do you have any tutorials which would show me which wires I need to punch in to get the phone working?
Hi, I wanted to fit an ADSL face plate to my master socket and move the wires over but when I pulled he first part of the master socket off no wires were connected, I then had to unscrew the rest of the master socket to then find that the wires are connected to the A and B! So I'm now confused why and if I can move those over to the ADSL face plate. Thanks
Hi, that sounds like you only have the one socket in the property, so you don't have any extensions. You would be unlikely to see any improvement by fitting an ADSL faceplate if you don't have extension wiring but if you want to fit one for neatness then all you have to do is remove the front plate and screw on the ADSL faceplate without touching any wires. Thanks.
haha for a second I thought he was going to pull out some tinfoil, butter, and his belt, and start wrapping it around the phone cord LOL my mouse was half way to the thumbs down xD On a seperate note, lower your SNR margin a little in the modem config if you can access it... it will give you a bit more bandwidth
Random question, Can VDSL faceplates Ware out eventually ie speed decrease over time? I bought mine a few years ago and moved house quite a lot with it. Thanks :)
No, they shouldn't wear out but they can get damp and corroded so double check the contacts on the VDSL port are clean and shiny and also the contacts where it contacts the master socket.
As a network tech I can tell you this will not do anything unless you are currently unable to achieve a sync rate that your ISP has set for your ADSL; due to a number of factors. All this work might help improve your DSL line, but cannot overcome the sync speed setting your ISP has set.
Hi wonder if you could tell me the best way ?? My adsl phone box is in my hall and i have a 10 mtr rj11 cable connected to it going to my router then to my pc in my bedroom. Would it be better to have the router next to my phone box in my hall and connect with a cat6 10 mtr cable to my bedroom , I have been told its always better to have the router as near to the phone box as possible, is this true...thanks..
Ron Jones Hi Ron, yes it should be better if you have the shorter ADSL lead and then the longer cat6 Ethernet lead because the CAT6 Ethernet will keep the same good signal up to 100m while the ADSL cable will not, it degrades the longer it is.Thanks Vince
Hi VINCE! Just a quick question! Do you think this is a pure copper wire? s24.postimg.org/tztot8wut/IMAG5375.jpg s24.postimg.org/p2g484uvp/IMAG5377.jpg Can't find out because the box doesn't say it! THere is the mark AWG24M. I would like to avoid AAC ( alluminum copper alloy )...
+LightsnRoses Sorry , it is hard for me to tell. Looking at the packaging and the fact it is branded I would say that it is proper cable and very likely to be copper but this is only a guess. Zooming into the cores of the cut cable it does look to be copper all the way through, I can't see any silver in the middle. Maybe try 'Googling' the brand of cable to see if it mentions the spec of the cable.
+My Mate VINCE Yeah actually it really is copper but it's rigid, every wire it's formed by a single large solid copper wire. I don't know, I'm not an expert but I do know that single solid copper wire usually suffer of skin effect or at least this is what I learned at university... I have to use this cable for a vdsl connection so I don't if it's good or not, it has 4 wire plus a ground wire and it's shielded so everything is fine expect that the copper wires are rigid.
+LightsnRoses Personally I prefer solid core copper, and it means you can punch it into IDC terminals unlike stranded core. I think (I may be wrong) that skin affect only happens on AC currents.
hi. I have the most recent master socket in my living room. I have only 10 mbps and I have a standard router provided by sky. I have seen a new router that provides over 300mbps. if I buy the new router and plug it directly into the master socket will it work and give me better Internet speeds? maybe a stupid question but I do not fancy blowing £120 on a router. hope you reply..... top video BTW! (thumbs up)
Hi, the new router may be capable of high speeds but if the speeds aren't coming in from outside then fitting a new router won't change anything. Your standard router from Sky will be able to provide much more than 10Mbps so getting the new router will be unlikely to change anything unless it is faulty so you will probably find that it is the line itself which only allowing the 10Mbps. If you are using WiFi then try using an Ethernet cable as this can often improve the connection. Thanks Vince.
Wow… so when companies home install why couldn’t they future set up like this… simplifies and away with extra cost of filters. I’ll look for that RJ45 line next. 👍🏼
***** If you have telephone extensions that you do not use but they are still connected then it can affect the broadband speed. If you have no extensions or telephones so just the master socket then the only thing which may help is a better quality ADSL or VDSL lead.
My Mate VINCE Alright, thanks for the reply. My house has got so many telephone sockets because some dumb electrician wanted there to be telephone and TV sockets in every room though we have never used half of them.
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Living in the countyside our old broadband was about 3Mb/s and upgraded to BT infinity. BT promised 18Mb/s. On installation the rate was only 9Mb/s in the house 8-(. It was 18Mb/s so there was significant lose House side of the master socket. I ordered a new modern master socket, i- plate and VDSL filters. This got the rate upto 16Mb/s. I then replaced the flat router cable with a new twisted quality cable from the router to the socket. This took the rate upto 19Mb/s pleased to get over 15Mb/s and shocked by how much difference the quality lead made! It added the same amount of speed we used to have again. The whole nation could internet speed could increase by 15% of decent leads were used.
lol never trust there techs... they got no idea... just read from a how to list LOL... I put mine on the pots spliltter and it worled... after the guy tried every phone line in the house LOL....
and after me telling him go off the pots, I FILTER the lines to the phones with one filter.... lol he didnt clue in, POTS splitter.....(Plain Old Telephone System, is 6th grade Knowledge here LOL
I was looking for a video to explain the benefits of the filter plate and a quality patch lead and came accross this. When you mentioned your old ebay name I realised I bought one of your cables back in 2012. Still going strong. Great work.
Wow!! I did exactly what you said Vince...VDSL faceplate, hub to within a metre of master socket, 2 cat6 cables purchased from your good self. For the last 10 years+ the best speed I was getting was 4-5 meg. Immediately after, I got an extra 1.5 meg, and a week later the line has stabilised at nearly 11 meg!!! Either BT has coincidently tweaked my line, or your advice has really paid off! Cheers mate, keep up the good work!
Kevin Cozens Excellent news, well done.Thanks for sharing the information.All the best Vince
Extremely well presented, clear and so precise.
TV worthy viewing. Well done 👍
I got 28 kb at first and I am paying for 10 mb and now after this video I got 10 Mbps Thanks u solved my problem
hey bro what ISP you are using...my dsl parameters are very poor...I am getting only 3.6mbps in my 8mbps plan...please share your experience
I've had problems with my boardband for ages and was going from 1.2 Upto 2.5 but sometimes down to 0.7 even 0.04!!! So Got pissed off and called up Sky! They did a line test and found the fault was in my house!!
Opened the master socket! Found on the ADSL face plate cover the Orange pair wiring on connection 2 & 5 where poorly fitted!! Used my Cronin tool (punch down tool) and now! Up to 4.2MB!!!! So happy now. Wish i done it years ago!! Thanks for your Help dude
Well done.
i work for the dsl company in belgium, this guy knows what hes talking about :) always use 1 filter at the entry point and seperate DSL from fone connections. i can add one little piece of advice for this video, if you have VDSL, these connections work with an outmatic speed profiling system done by the street cabinet, it might take a few days before your connection can move up to a higher profile, the street cabinet needs time to test your line. also if you turn off your modem at night, this system might think your line is not working as it should and put you in a lower category. great video dude!
Hi Vince, I had a drop in speed for three weeks and could not even watch movies via my android tv box. Max speed was 4mbs. I bought your cable and an openbox MK3 faceplate filter on Ebay, fix them today and my download speed was doubled. Speed test is now 8mbs. Wow! Amazing. Continue with the good work. I am waiting delivery of my BT infinity in 2 days time and can't wait to hook them up with your cable. Thank you very much for this post.
+Michael Amponsah Hi, thanks for message, that is a nice increase in speed. Well done.Many thanks Vince
Subscribed to listen to his voice. 😍
your tech vids are very helpful thanks Vince I think you'll really grow on TH-cam keep up the great work Vince!
He did...
this is great. i just removed the ring wire and went from 2.2 to 3.6 within seconds. soon to fit a new plate to hopefully increase speeds further.
cricketbuff Excellent news, well done!Vince
Excellent video explaining everything. I ordered up some good parts to replace the junk in my rental home.
Wonderful... sorted out mess of wiring in the house together with your previous video, sped things up and increased strength. Thanks
Great advice fitted ADSL face plate and good quality RJ11 lead, increased download speed by 25% !! thanks
Thank a lot this has helped me out loads, now I can play my games without wifi lag! Thanks again
Just used one of your RJ45 -> RJ11 VDSL cables and i've gained a few mb up and down. Great service and great videos Vince! Cheers Andy
Andy Davies Hi Andy, excellent news, thanks for letting me know.All the best Vince
My name is Vince to first time checking out channel
Vince, fantastic videos!!! I've got crackle on the phone line so I'm about to do some work on the internal socket. It's also in a dreadful position with no power, so I'm going to move my master socket box. I'm thinking of using one of the gel filled extensions (from your other video about fixing the drop wire) to extend the drop wire and neaten up the wiring outside my house, this will allow me to drop it down to my basement where my router & switch sit with cat 5 fed to the rest of the house. I don't have fiber but thinking of the future I'm err-ing to the VDSL box as it's loads less wiring and I'm not going to need a phone extension box as I plan to plug my router in the basement and then run a standard phone extension cable from the main socket to the room above so my phone base unit is direct to the master socket too. This is the ideal.
I've checked the plug inside the main box so the drop wire is sound, but of course I'm not sure if the extension part of the box is. If I use the old box to connect my drop wire to in the basement and then plug a VDSL socket on top assuming I'm not putting an extension in then I'm assuming I won't need to wire up anything else, so just drop wire -> main box -> VDSL plug in -> face plate. Connect router to top socket and phone to the bottom socket... is this right?
If not I guess I need to buy a brand new master socket as well as a VDSL socket and the connector for the drop wire.
Thanks again, so impressed with how clear your videos are.
Man first time I've seen your face and it looks good!
Very good info, on all his videos
Nice video you definitely deserve more subscribers
Blimey, I wish it was you dealing with my broadband problems! I have had nothing but trouble from BT since being in this this house (8 yrs!). Have now had 6 weeks of continual problems, and they still haven't fixed it! All the engineers that have ever been out have always said that my extension lead from my main BT socket downstairs to my PC modem upstairs wasn't a good idea. I am disabled and unable to work so don't have a lot of money, but this time I finally gave in and asked for a secondary phone line to be run off the main socket to upstairs. I didn't get that... Got a data cable instead, so now have no phone socket upstairs.....and broadband is worse than ever!
Well done, mate.
Great video about phone sockets ive seen. One question. in the setup at 4:35 If I added the router to the extension socket, would I need a microfilter?
I thought the filters stopped high frequency appearing over voice connection. The voice frequencies are too low to appear over the adsl range. That is why the adsl connections connect unfiltered to bt/openreach wiring.
So just wire one end of router cable into the extension connections and use the microfilter for phone only.
Personally I don't have landline phone plugged in, so just wired home hub directly into extension connections without filter.
Hi VinceThe VDSL plate that you fit at around 3:50 into the video is I assume the same as BT Mk 3 VDSL plates that Openreach install now on fibre connections?
I am using these filter plates on ADSL as I find them to be better than the other ADSL specific filter plates.
Could you please confirm something for me, If I wire up the Mk 3 plate to carry the broadband signal to an extension socket, could you please confirm which wire goes on the A and B connections. Is it Blue/White in "A" with White/Blue in "B"?
Also, just to double check when using an NTE 5 plate as an extension socket, is it Blue/White in "B" with White/Blue in "A"?Finally, what would be the consequences of wiring incorrectly? Does it really matter that much? I know that the cable pair coming in from the street isn't pole specific so if you just have a black pair (like we had until last Friday when Openreach changed our cable) you could use either wire in A or B.Sorry for all the questions and thank you for posting all of your videos, I have found them very handy over the last couple of years when trying to fix things :)
+amrob2 Hi, that particular VDSL faceplate was a MK1 but the MK2 and MK3 look the same. I wire them up white/blue to A and blue/white to B but it will not make a difference which way round they go. You shouldn't use an NTE5 as an extension because it will confuse either a future phone engineer or future customer as normally they are the 1st socket in the house but if you do then yes you have the correct colour code.Many thanks Vince
+My Mate VINCE Thanks for clarifying :)
Good overview. Next video maybe include updating router firmware.
Hi Vince, just found your videos, are those faceplates specific to UK or not? Can they be used outside of UK market?
BT did this for me without asking got to love them even though I'm with sky
Great Tutorials , Very Explanatory , Keep up the Good Work :)
Jaskaran Singh Thanks for the nice comment :)
Hi Vince. Great videos. Can you let me know what I need for the following set up and then what bits I need from your ebay shop. My main telecom line comes in the rear of my house in my bedroom upstairs into a junction connector box. This goes across the bedroom to the other side of the room where there is a master socket. I would like to keep a socket for the telephone in my bedroom and move the master socket downstairs to the lounge. My question is do I need to run cable all the way down to the lounge from the junction box in the bedroom to the master socket and then all the way back along the same route to the bedroom to a telephone socket or is there another way. I would like to use the new VDSL sockets as I've just had fibre installed. Can you offer any advice. Regards Seth
Vince, tried one of the newer NTE5 Masters over my old [with surge protector / Zener Diode?] - In any case it did not help so I have put my old one back on! As usual YMMV!!!
cpcnw Hi, thanks for the info :-)
Hi Vince. My vdsl (Openreach mk 3) box is in the attic and not easily accessible. I'm currently on ADSL but have Fibre to the Home (we live in the countryside and it's just being rolled out) on order. I'd like the HomeHub 5 to be more accessible (and better positioned for WiFi) - Can I use a Cat5e cable to extend the HH5 to another room?
Love this channel. He is so articulate. New sub 👍🏼
Very helpful, cheers mate
Hi Vince, I know this is a really old video but I have a question about the 2nd plate you held up the the video, the VDSL plate for FTTC
I have the same plate on my master socket and noticed there are A/B terminals on the top left. Are these for if you want to push the internet signal through to another socket in the house?
I have a 2 pair telephone extension running upstairs that I only want internet on, so do I just wire 1 pair directly into the A/B terminals and terminate with an RJ11 box?
I understand there are loads of places I could ask this but I trust your judgement.
Thanks in advance!!
Great videos Vince but a question If I can please. My Home Office is in a bedroom at the rear of the house and my master socket is in the living room at the front. I've been having some broadband issues and need to check over all the wiring and maybe do some changes. So, is it better to have my router by the master socket and link to my PC in my office via WiFi or to have the router connected to an extension in the office and the PC connected to the router via an Ethernet cable (As it is now)? As other things also use the WiFi, notably my son constantly streaming TH-cam or online gaming (Often both at the same time!) I don't want the WiFi to be a limiting factor
Hi, have you got any videos on REIN?
Hi Vince,
Great video.
I currently live in a property with no master socket. Phone line goes into garage then extension box feeding three rooms. Cable up to box is only old 2-core cable. I'm considering removing the extension and installing master socket next to the router then attaching a proper ADSL faceplate. Do you think I'm likely to see a speed increase by doing this and is it worth replacing the 2-core cable that has been in the property since the 80's?
+Paul Welland Hi, it would be a good idea to fit a NTE5 master socket and ADSL faceplate and hopefully you will benefit but unfortunately you will not know if it will make a difference until you have done it. If the 2 core cable is not twisted pair then it would be a good idea to change but again it may not make any difference depending on how the broadband is currently performing. If it is twisted pair then as long as it is not damaged/damp/faulty then it should perform as good as newer cable.Thanks Vince
Really clear and helpful videos; thanks. I have ASDL and an NTE5 master socket. I'm with BT. I have BT wifi home hotspot plugs. Is the home hotspot kit compatible with me adding a VDSL faceplate and a CAT5e cable to my set up? Thanks
Delphine Holopherne-Doran Hi, thanks for the message. It will be compatible because the Wi-Fi hotspot plugs are connected after the router and these VDSL faceplates and cat5 cable are connected before the router.Hope that helps.Many thanks Vince
Nice watch.
Good videos you post….
Hi Vince, Just wondering if all of the NTE5a sockets you sell are the newer model with the surge protector removed? I'm getting BT Infinity connected next week and your videos are really helping me plan my new setup. Thanks!
Hi, yes they all have the surge protector removed.
Thanks.
Really useful stuff, thanks.
Hiya.
Hope its not a silly question but how would I find my master socket in a new build house pls?
Also, will disconnecting the 'bell wire' alone speed up my connection?
Tia
Andy
would it be worth changing the OLD cable from the splitter to the adsl box? if so what is the best cable to use. thankyou
Finding quality rj11 to rj45 cables is very tricky! I see plenty of RJ45 cables but I am thinking that an RJ11-RJ45 adapter would cause some kind of bottle neck?
I recently brought a decent microfilter XF-1e and I had a download speed of 11mb changed to the xf up to 13 I have ordered a thicker cat5e Adsl router wire hopefully it will increase speed
Useful video Vince. I have question about the replacing the cable as you suggested. If you have a BT Home Hub 5 do you need the RJ11 connection or can it be done with an RJ45 to back of the hub?
swedey84 Hi the back of the Home Hub will always be a RJ11 no matter which version you have. It is the other end you need to look at (the wall socket end) to determine whether you need a RJ11 or RJ45, if you have microfilter plugged into the socket then you have to have RJ11 but if you have a larger faceplate plugged in (either an ADSL faceplate or a VDSL faceplate) then a RJ45 will fit (see my other video on superfast broadband to see these different faceplates and the cable).Many thanks Vince
Hello Vince, I am about to move over to sky fiber and looking to move the router into my living room hoping to get a better connection for gaming. I currently have a standard master socket in the hallway with one plug to a microfilter then phone and router. What would be the best way to extend my broadband connection while keeping loss of speed to a minimum?
Hi Vince, i have a question. I don't have any phone extensions in the house and just the mastersocket. The mastersocket that i have currently is the old non-nte5 type. If i want to install the nte5 with vdsl filter built in, do i just wire the two cables at the back and then just connect the vdsl faceplate on top without having to wire that up too?
Bash Zam Hi, yes that is right, you will not need to wire up the front plate if you have no extension wiring. You may not see any difference in speed if you don't have any extension wiring. Normally when fitting an ADSL or a VDSL faceplate the best increases in speed are seen if you have a lot of extensions.Thanks Vince
My Mate VINCE Thank you Vince.
You wouldn't by any chance know/be able to hazard a guess as to how much approx. 20m of CAT5e spec cable between the router/modem and the master socket might impact downstream/upstream speeds would you?
Since we'll have two desktop PCs upstairs I'd ideally like to have the router (HH5 with built-in VDSL modem), along with it's gigabit switch, upstairs aswell. There's conduit installed already, carrying the phone extensions, but there isn't really enough room to fit two 4-pair CAT5e cables up to link both PCs. The cable itself would be CW1724 BT cable (CAT5e spec but with only two twisted pairs to cut down on bulk) punched down into the unfiltered pass-through DSL IDC terminals in the VDSL faceplate. IIRC it's essentially the same stuff BTOR would install as part of their "VDSL extension kit".
Andrew Robin Hi, sorry I don't know. I think I would be more tempted to run one Ethernet cable and fit a Gigabit switch upstairs by the 2 computers.
Hi Vince, well presented. I have a question about my setup. My master socket is upstairs, while the computer etc is downstairs, I currently run an extension from the master down to the extension socket, the router and phone is plugged into that. I was thinking of running a cat 5e cable instead of the usual phone extension wire, from the master down to the extension and plug the router and phone into that, would this help in increased speed and stability?
Zuber Ismail Hi, it may or may not make a difference if the current extension is copper and twisted pair like a BT telephone cable. You could try first just disconnecting the ringer wire on terminal 3 to see if that makes any difference.Thanks Vince
My Mate VINCE Thanks form the quick reply. it's not a twisted pair, and seems like it's very poor quality. I'll probably give it ago, as my router keeps dropping connection and I have to reboot almost every day. Thanks again.
Hi mr. Telephone
Can you tell the % increase of speed after variation. I have such a situtation (long flat double copper wire to modem/router) but I can't imagine a better solution because mt DATA CENTER (just my humble home computer) is in a room far from main line telephone socket). All those considerations also hinder my passage to FFTH or whatever. I would like tradional voice telephony + FFT(x). Does anyone know how to proceed?
I have a question can you crimp your ISP into an rj11 and use a splitter instead of the traditional way
Thank you so so so much !!!!!!!
hi vince the vdsl plate you are showing, is it the mk3 version? many thanks
Hi, from memory the one in the video was the MK1 version without any branding (no Logos). The ones I have now have the MK3 circuits insides but they are a different design but you can still buy MK3 versions in the same design as the one in the video from eBay and Amazon.
Any help or ideas for virgin broadband and the best way to set the 3.0 hub 🤞
Feed into master - to extension - extension to filter - filter to router - router to computer? Sod that malarkey 😂 I use my mobile phone - turn on the hotspot - Bingo it's on whatever room I'm in. No cables at all 👍🏼😊 Speed is great - I can stream live TV - watch TH-cam - download games to different tablets - whilst talking on the mobile 👍🏼 Data used each month is approx 190 - 230 Gb per month price £18.99 inc unlimited calls and data allowance unlimited. 😊👍🏼👍🏼 4G is way forward not all this BT cables and box's - no point.
the extension thing where I've got my hub connected to.. That's all I can find, this master socket your showing here is no where to be found.. I'm starting to realise why I'm not getting any upload speed now haha.. it's driving me crazy though
Hey Vince, great vid - thanks. :) Question - have a VDSL master socket in the hall (inconveniently) - other sockets in the house. A BT HH5 doesn't seem to get a braodband signal from these other socket in the house except the master socket (even using filters on the other sockets) - telephones do work from these sockets though. Is there an easy way to make one of the other sockets in the house into the master VDSL/ADSL socket to get a signal into the HH5? Thanks again for the great vids!
+Rafkoo Hi, if you have an ADSL or VDSL faceplate then the broadband signal will not travel through to the other extensions. If you look at the video that has 'increase your broadband by 60%' in the title then this explains a way you can use the spare wires in the extension sockets to move your router. You will not have any increase in speed over using the master socket but it might be helpful for you if you want to move your BT HH5.Thanks Vince
+My Mate VINCE Thanks Vince, I did have a look - I think I basically need to pull the cables from 2 and 5 in the VDSL plate and connect them to the A/B points on VDSL plate. Then ensure that the same coloured cables are connected to the middle two points of the extension socket. I think... :D
+Rafkoo Hi, it would be best to use the spare wires otherwise you will lose your phone extensions. Also you need to terminate the end of the run onto a RJ11 or RJ45 socket so you can plug your BT HH5 lead into it. The other way is to run a new completely separate cat5e ADSL cable from the VDSL plate to the new location.Thanks Vince
+My Mate VINCE Thanks again for your time Vince. I did try with a spare (green pair) at the weekend - there is a green pair that wasn't connected to the VDSL plate ... and a green pair at the extension socket ... I connected these to A/B at the VDSL and at the extension socket to the spare two terminals (NOT the middle two - middle two were taken already). This didn't work - but maybe I'll try again into the middle two? RE: RJ11 socket - could I not terminate the wires at the standard telephone socket (where the green pair go to) and use the HH5 with and use a filter? Will the BT HH5 not like this?
+Rafkoo It will probably work if you are going to connect the green pair to 2 and 5 (the middle 2) and use a plug in filter. Let me know the outcome.
Great set of videos, thanks. In my situation, it's inconvenient to have both the router AND the phone by the master socket. Can I run an extension similar to the one shown here, and plug them both in to that?
Mel Powles Hi, if you have a normal NTE5 master socket WITHOUT any ADSL or VDSL faceplates and you want the phone and the router in a different location you will need to run a normal phone extension to the new location and plug a micro filter into the new extension socket. I have another video on how to run a normal phone extension.Many thanks Vince
My Mate VINCE Great stuff, thanks for the reply. I guess it would make sense, then, to change the faceplate on the master socket first?
It would make more sense for a better connection but then you will have to run 2 cables, one cable for the router and one cable for the phone, so more work is involved.
Thanks Vince
My Mate VINCE Sounds good, will give that a go. Really appreciate your reply. Will be visiting your shop!
Hi Vince. My router is hard wired to my PC upstairs and my master socket is downstairs. In your video you say that I would still need a filter for my router extension point but I wondered if it is still worthwhile upgrading the faceplate to VDSL (rather than just an i-plate) to avoid the need for filters on the other extensions
Hi, unfortunately if you fit the VDSL faceplate then the router can only be plugged into the VDSL faceplate which in your case would be downstairs in the master socket. The router will no longer work in any extension sockets. You can run a dedicated data extension or push the signal through spare wires in the extension but this is getting quite involved. See my other videos on how to move your router or increase speed etc.
Thanks Vince
Thanks for that info Vince - I'll get the i-plate then. I am upgrading to Sky Fibre and wondered if I need to install VDSL filters in the other extension sockets I am using as well as the Sky Hub one, rather than use the 'old' ADSL ones I already have? Regards, Alistair.
Good ADSL filters will work but I will be getting 'plug in dangly' VDSL filters in the next month so if you are not happy then you can get some VDSL versions.
Thanks again. I'll monitor things after the Sky Fibre is installed andsettles down.
Great info
Thanks Vince for all your informative videos. I was inspired to update an old 'Telecom' NTE socket with a new NTE5a + ADSL faceplate. We live in the sticks and about 5mb is the best broadband speed we can get so anything better would be an improvement. Following the installation (instructions carried out to the letter) the phone is fine and I have a strong signal from the router which is now close to the master socket. However, my broadband download speed has plummeted - not the result I was expecting - and I'm wondering what I have done wrong! I've read somewhere that it can take about three days for broadband to update and adjust itself - is this correct? Thanks, Alan.
Alan Stansfield Hi Alan, has the main incoming wire being 'teed' into. The ADSL faceplate needs to be the 1st socket on the line so double check that the line hasn't been split off (in an external or internal junction box) to another extension socket before the NTE5/ADSL faceplate.
My Mate VINCE Thanks for your speedy reply. We do have a redundant extension which may be the cause of the problem. Thanks once again for your help.
HI Vince would replacing a standard telephone extension (15metre) with cat5/6 make a difference I can't afford the $400 for a power point next to the jack point,I know its better if you place the modem right next to the jack point but I cant afford the $400
+dcpmootown Hi, if you are replacing a flat extension lead then yes it may improve things but if your extension is already using proper telephone wiring such as copper twisted wires (like the telephone companies install) then it will be unlikely to make much difference.Thanks Vince
Keep grinding bro
Is there a limit on the length of the cat5 cable. E.g run a continuous cable from the vdsl plate on the master socket to the router in another part of the house?
BT always recommended a maximum length of 30m on the ADSL cables. Some people have run 50m without problem and I am not sure why 30m was recommended as the maximum length. This was when ADSL first came out so maybe it might be different now.
What country is this hookup help from? In America, I haven’t seen equipment like what you’re showing, except the small DSL filter you held up.
The United Kingdom :-)
@@Mymatevincetrust me you will Lough in Algeria we are still using ADSL and the max speed is between 2mbps 3mbps and we have only one lan cable not even crimped to an rj11 and a simple traditional filter to a phone and router
Hi, where can I get the cable which you recommended? And is it only work with VDSL? because my connection is ADSL2+. Thanks.
Hi, if you have a ADSL or a VDSL faceplate then the cable will work on both ADSL and VDSL telephone lines.
Thanks.
Hi Vince. Can you give me a link for the punch down tool please?
hi can you please tell me what lead I need to run from the phone socket back to the sky router. I change the Internet lead to a cat 5 lead like you said but need to change the other lead as it's a flat lead.
You would need a RJ11 to RJ11 lead often called an 'ADSL Lead'
thanks Vince. great video by the way. so easy to follow
My master socket is outside and have two extensions inside the house :( any advice on how I could improvey Internet?
It will be hard for you to improve the speed but you could check that the bell wire is not connected (the orange wire on terminal 3, Google it for more info) and you could think about changing the ADSL lead to a cat5e or cat6 version which may make a slight improvement.
+My Mate VINCE thanks for your reply, I'll check on your recommendations!
We don’t currently have phones plugged into the lines as we don’t use telephone devices apart from mobiles with their own mobile data plans.
Do I still need a adsl splitter in order to use my modem. Or is there a cable I can buy that can go straight into wall socket from the modem. Would it be a RJ-45 cable I would need to buy or will it cause interference
My main question is do I really need a splitter if I’m only using internet and if not is there a cable that does that also will it improve speed without it.
Thanks in advanced
using the cable directly will cause internet problems when someone try to call your phone number. I don't know how it work in your country , but in my country you have to keep the phone active or else they will cancel your connection, so we have to use a filter. but if no one is trying to call or use the phone , the connection will work , i tried it for sometime and i didn't notice a difference , maybe because I have a 8 mbps plan
You need a splitter for a DSL connection to your modem unless you have a VDSL faceplate
what's the difference between the VDSL faceplate in this video and the 2015 model i found on your ebay page?
This one in the video is easier to fit because you do not have to disconnect and reconnect the actual extension wiring. Unfortunately I cannot get this version anymore so I have the different design for sale which you do have to pull the wires out of your existing front plate and them punch them onto the new VDSL faceplate so it is harder to install.
i don't have any extension wires to worry about so my install should just be a simple matter of swapping the faceplate right?
Hi, yes that is right, nice and easy, just undo the 2 small screws and use the longer screws that come with the VDSL faceplate and screw them back up again.
thanks alot for the info
i ordered the faceplate and one of your cat6 DSL cables from your ebay shop, my new sky 76mbps fibre broadband goes live on the 30th of this month
OMG i really need your help , its very different setup where i live. how can i have contact with you?
Who wants something the size of a small brick sticking out from the wall. BT could have done such a better design job on their NTE's. They could have got all that technology into a "face plate" device that fitted into a standard 35mm or 47mm metal back box that could be sunken into the wall.
Hi there, I would like to ask a question if possible. I have just been switched to FTTC. I have my router connected to an extension socket I am getting 65mb down and 20up. When I connect to master socket I get 70mb down and 20mb up. And when I connect to test socket I get the full advertised speed by BT 80mbdown and 20up. Unfortunately it's not convenient to move the router to the test/master socket. Can you suggest a solution that would allow me to receive the full speed at the extension socket?
I was thinking VDSL faceplate, then a long extension cable where I would like the router to be placed?
Many thanks
+Rabee Behnam Hi, it may not produce the full speed but a better option would be a VDSL faceplate and then a long cat5e or cat6 VDSL/ADSL lead to your router location.Thanks Vince.
+My Mate VINCE thanks so you're suggesting to get a long rj45(vdsl plate)to rj11(router) if so may I ask if you do such a cable ? Thank you
+Rabee Behnam Hi, yes I have both cat5e and Cat6 RJ45 to RJ11 cables in my ebay shop, go to mymatevince.com and you will see the link to my shop.Many thanks Vince
Would replacing bt cable rj11 from entry to house, and replacing with cat5e make a difference? B
Hey there what internet service provider are you currently with?
MrColakid11 Hi, I use Virgin Media (Cable broadband). They have been using FTTC (fibre to the cabinet) for many years and I have had no issues with them.Thanks Vince
Thanks a lot for replying we will be switching over to Virgin Media as soon as our BT contract ends as their service is not so reliable.
Sarveen It may be worth testing the service at the test socket on the nte5 master socket and if it improves then you know you can sort out the internal wiring yourself or fit an adsl faceplate etc.
Cheers Vince.
Very helpful video
hi Vince it's me again lol
the VDSL faceplate I ordered looks like the ADSL faceplate with connectors. will it do the same job as the one here that plugs into the test socket?
+James Sanson Hi, yes exactly the same job. The design is just different than this one.
Cheers.
My Mate VINCE Cheers for all the help!
Will the iplate work with vssl fftc infinity on a non-master socket?
trogoy No, it has to be on the master socket.
Hi
Been trying to purchase the FTTC socket, but can't see that in your store?
Hi, the version I have now looks like the ADSL faceplate although the components inside are the same as the MK3 VDSL version. I can't get that version in the video anymore but if you go to www.mymatevince.com then I have linked to an Amazon seller (not me) that does have them.
Many thanks Vince.
vince would a vdsl line be fibre? im getting talk talk fibre broadband on the 19th of this month im a bit worried our socket is outdated I dont know when it was installed but it wasnt installed in the last 10 years. would a the vdsl filter be fine for this connection I dont fancy cocking up my phone line and having to pay for a engineer to come out to fix it thanks.
+tony terry Hi, yes a VDSL line is Fibre, FTTC (Fibre to the Cabinet). Maybe wait until the 19th to see how you line is performing and then if you are unhappy with the speeds then look into fitting a VDSL faceplate.Thanks Vince
Thank you I will at least I know where to get one from
+My Mate VINCE hi I'm using vdsl face plate and need to upgrade my cable rj11to rj11 high speed cable can i get a vdsl cable or do i us a adsle cable.
cool thank you
Just did this today and it has improved my upload speed quite a bit thanks! However I did come across something weird. It would appear the BT engineer has been really lazy as the original faceplate was not wired in, and was just using the test socket. I now have the VDSL faceplate plugged in which is working fine for the internet but due to no wiring on the original faceplate I'm not actually getting signal to the phone anymore. Not a major problem as I don't use the phone but do you have any tutorials which would show me which wires I need to punch in to get the phone working?
It's the VDSL faceplate option I'm using the one at around 3 mins into the video
Hi,
I wanted to fit an ADSL face plate to my master socket and move the wires over but when I pulled he first part of the master socket off no wires were connected, I then had to unscrew the rest of the master socket to then find that the wires are connected to the A and B! So I'm now confused why and if I can move those over to the ADSL face plate. Thanks
Hi, that sounds like you only have the one socket in the property, so you don't have any extensions. You would be unlikely to see any improvement by fitting an ADSL faceplate if you don't have extension wiring but if you want to fit one for neatness then all you have to do is remove the front plate and screw on the ADSL faceplate without touching any wires.
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haha for a second I thought he was going to pull out some tinfoil, butter, and his belt, and start wrapping it around the phone cord LOL my mouse was half way to the thumbs down xD On a seperate note, lower your SNR margin a little in the modem config if you can access it... it will give you a bit more bandwidth
Thanks It Worked 😀
It is spliter or what where we buy it...
Random question, Can VDSL faceplates Ware out eventually ie speed decrease over time? I bought mine a few years ago and moved house quite a lot with it.
Thanks :)
No, they shouldn't wear out but they can get damp and corroded so double check the contacts on the VDSL port are clean and shiny and also the contacts where it contacts the master socket.
As a network tech I can tell you this will not do anything unless you are currently unable to achieve a sync rate that your ISP has set for your ADSL; due to a number of factors. All this work might help improve your DSL line, but cannot overcome the sync speed setting your ISP has set.
Hi wonder if you could tell me the best way ?? My adsl phone box is in my hall and i have a 10 mtr rj11 cable connected to it going to my router then to my pc in my bedroom. Would it be better to have the router next to my phone box in my hall and connect with a cat6 10 mtr cable to my bedroom , I have been told its always better to have the router as near to the phone box as possible, is this true...thanks..
Ron Jones Hi Ron, yes it should be better if you have the shorter ADSL lead and then the longer cat6 Ethernet lead because the CAT6 Ethernet will keep the same good signal up to 100m while the ADSL cable will not, it degrades the longer it is.Thanks Vince
Thanks I'm gonna connect my tv to the internet now cause I've got all of those any way
Hi VINCE!
Just a quick question! Do you think this is a pure copper wire? s24.postimg.org/tztot8wut/IMAG5375.jpg
s24.postimg.org/p2g484uvp/IMAG5377.jpg Can't find out because the box doesn't say it! THere is the mark AWG24M. I would like to avoid AAC ( alluminum copper alloy )...
+LightsnRoses Sorry , it is hard for me to tell. Looking at the packaging and the fact it is branded I would say that it is proper cable and very likely to be copper but this is only a guess. Zooming into the cores of the cut cable it does look to be copper all the way through, I can't see any silver in the middle. Maybe try 'Googling' the brand of cable to see if it mentions the spec of the cable.
+My Mate VINCE Yeah actually it really is copper but it's rigid, every wire it's formed by a single large solid copper wire. I don't know, I'm not an expert but I do know that single solid copper wire usually suffer of skin effect or at least this is what I learned at university...
I have to use this cable for a vdsl connection so I don't if it's good or not, it has 4 wire plus a ground wire and it's shielded so everything is fine expect that the copper wires are rigid.
+LightsnRoses Personally I prefer solid core copper, and it means you can punch it into IDC terminals unlike stranded core. I think (I may be wrong) that skin affect only happens on AC currents.
hi. I have the most recent master socket in my living room. I have only 10 mbps and I have a standard router provided by sky. I have seen a new router that provides over 300mbps. if I buy the new router and plug it directly into the master socket will it work and give me better Internet speeds? maybe a stupid question but I do not fancy blowing £120 on a router. hope you reply..... top video BTW! (thumbs up)
Hi, the new router may be capable of high speeds but if the speeds aren't coming in from outside then fitting a new router won't change anything. Your standard router from Sky will be able to provide much more than 10Mbps so getting the new router will be unlikely to change anything unless it is faulty so you will probably find that it is the line itself which only allowing the 10Mbps. If you are using WiFi then try using an Ethernet cable as this can often improve the connection.
Thanks Vince.
Wow… so when companies home install why couldn’t they future set up like this… simplifies and away with extra cost of filters.
I’ll look for that RJ45 line next. 👍🏼
My first time seeing his face 0_o
Would this work with pppoe?
Does any of this matter if i don't have landline phones?
***** If you have telephone extensions that you do not use but they are still connected then it can affect the broadband speed. If you have no extensions or telephones so just the master socket then the only thing which may help is a better quality ADSL or VDSL lead.
My Mate VINCE Alright, thanks for the reply. My house has got so many telephone sockets because some dumb electrician wanted there to be telephone and TV sockets in every room though we have never used half of them.