I just remember when Inspiring Philosophy was on Pints with Aquinas, and when IP mentioned that when he was a kid at his church, some kids threw him down a staircase, and Matt asked if that was a fundamental protestant exorcism.
I've read in Father Amorth's book that a man was successfully exorcised by some Protestants, and this kind of perplexed Father Amorth, eventually realizing that there is power in the name of Christ outside the Catholic Church.
The way my luck sometimes runs, I can imagine an extra terrestrial approaching me, asking to come to Church with me and the poor priest dying between consecrating the wafer and the wine......... The question of whether a protestant exorcism is valid perhaps best tested by observing the 'fruit' of the exorcism. I knew an Anglican minister who carried out an exorcism which certainly seemed to work, the previous problems ceased to manifest.
The first thing that comes to mind is Jesus telling The Apostles about the future "many shall come in my name and perform miracles....." (Paraphrased it) Don't shoot the messenger.
The first thing that comes to my mind is . Mark 9:38-40 38 John said to him, “Teacher, we saw someone casting out demons in your name, and we tried to stop him, because he was not following us.” 39 But Jesus said, “Do not stop him, for no one who does a mighty work in my name will be able soon afterward to speak evil of me. 40 For the one who is not against us is for us. I think it’s kinda strange that the Catholic Church does ever consider this verse. Now don’t get me wrong I’m sure there are many fakes out there. My point is that from this verse ,the power to do this is from Jesus in the name of Jesus ,not the Catholic Church. So you don’t have to be catholic or part of the Catholic Church to cast out demons. These people in the verse weren’t. Im sure this applies to other things.
@ThatGuy-nr5sp Without a doubt,any shall come in His name and perform wonders. However, shall He knows them? (As per His own words). I'll give an example from my personal experiences: A grunt that follows his orders to the best of his ability is maybe not noticed, but he follows orders handed down by the chain of command. A soldier that disregards his orders or neglects them or rejects the chain of command, even if he does a heroic act in the course of battle, is not a reliable soldier, in fact, he deserves to be reprimanded or even court marshalled (depending on the severity of the CRIME). To make my point crystal clear, I shall quote one line from a very well known song among believers: "Onward Christian soldiers..." How I wish that my communication skills were better, but this is maybe the best I can do with my limited abilities and vocab. Yet, I and everyone should take note of your citation from The Holy Bible, as it is made clear what we as Christian soldiers are to do and that the judgement is for the King and those He names to ensure Justice is served. It is not for us to Judge. "No casting the first stone" often comes to mind, even though many feel that anything said that they don't want to hear is a load of boulders hurled at them. Guess they are lucky enough never to have had constant shelling as a form of adrenaline and urine boosting rush!
@@ThatGuy-nr5sp Plenty of non-Catholics and non-Christians can do good things, the Catholic Church never denied this and in fact affirms it explicitly.
In discussing "The Creature from the Black Lagoon" movies, there was also the homage film, "The Shape of Water" (2017). That film, directed by Guillermo del Toro, won Best Picture that year. del Toro said that he loved the old "Creature" movies and wanted to make a film in which the creature, who is sadly the last of his kind, is able to win the girl's heart. He is presented almost as another species of human. (As a warning, it does contain some content that is not suitable for children.)
I know a very godly Protestant exorcist, my very own mother and her husband were involved in helping praying during some exorcisms he performed. This man lived a long celibate life as a Protestant priest, as a man no one could reproach, helping the poor, and helped tons of people be exorcised.
You Protestants end the Holy Priesthood, After Luther started his church you burned that bridge. Please don't use the "word " Priest as you always mis quote that vs of the Bible
@ lol ope you convinced me to become Catholic with the attitude, thx 😆 when did I say I was Protestant anyway. Y’all salty, or are you a troll that is actually determined to turn people away from Catholicism?
You don’t even know if the person typing is a Protestant. Your church doesn’t teach you to talk to Protestants that way and you aren’t helping or convincing anyone with your comment.
There were people casting out demons in the Bible in the name of Jesus but didn't follow Him and the Apostles were telling Jesus and Jesus said to let them, that those that are not against us are for us.
I personally think that getting your children to do all the sacrament rites of initiation at the same time is a mistake as it is a journey and a process of learning. Thanks to the Priests that catechized me in order to be ready for each of the sacraments I've been able to retain their teachings as it wasn't all at once. It was a process of many many weeks or months can't really remember it was a long time ago. I was about 13 when I finished being catechized by the priests and the rite of confirmation is a nice way to show that you are now an adult of the church who is responsible for their own salvation.
Preferably as soon as they learn to comprehend the invitation, @@frenchtoast2319 -- when we teach our children to invite Jesus into their hearts, He has their permission and desire for Jesus to reveal Himself to them, and to prepare them for a lifetime of service to the Gospel. That doesn't mean some of the children won't be drawn to the world and into error, though. As they grow up, they may forget their innocent faith. But it's never too late as long as one is alive. I invite Jesus into my heart every day and every moment of every day. I don't ever want to be separated from Him.
@emmapratka3982 Romans 10:9-10 "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" 1 Corinthians 6:19-20: When a person places their trust in Christ, the Spirit of God comes to dwell within them
But that's not what the sacrament of Confirmation is for. The Christian isn't finished being catechized until he dies. Confirmation is part of the Christian initiation, meaning beginning in the Faith.
THE TEMPEST - Lili It gives you comfort just to think that God is by your side To help you with your petty wants, you only have to pray Everything given or denied, it’s part of his great plan But what of when your world falls down, loss of home and pride Nature is a cruel beast, she arrives to ruin and flay She doesn’t care, she doesn’t think, of Gods, of love or man. - The cruel sea, the skies and wind all dark with careless hate Your home picked up and flung aside, the air fulfilled with death Is this the plan he had for you? You still think he is great Perhaps you think that he is kind for sparing most his flock A score of reasons to excuse, indifference, sin or fate It’s still the same, your world is gone, your hopes and prayers a mock. - And as you stare into the sky and bend your knees in thanks Your neighbor’s dead, your town a wreck, what thanks is due to him? Who made your life a misery, no future left for you You’re leaving now, your fate unknown a victim of his whim You’ll join the mass of those he’s scorned, the lost the faithful too Perhaps this trial will make you think, this God cannot be true. - If he is love then what’s this hate, inflicted on mankind It’s not just here, it’s everywhere, Infidel and faithful alike He doesn’t care, he strikes us all, and we’re supposed to find The meaning of the tragedy, the reason of the plan Be grateful for the mercy, mercy no one sees, mercy undefined The game he’s played with human pawns, the game he’s played with man. - The great Khayyam wrote of the game, a checkerboard of lies He knows the fate of everyone and watches from above And you may lift your hands to him, expectant of his love He only cares about the game, the players live or die And if you die that is the cost of being in the game A player faithful might be spared, the wanting to the flames.
@@universeman657 I'm right on this one. A valid ID is one that confirms who you are. A valid passport allows you to travel abroad. Effective refers to results - in other words are demons actually removed from the subject of the exorcism of a non-priest.
Here is a question, which maybe would be worth a whole mysterious world, idk. What's the deal with Smith Wigglesworth. Any truth to the numerous claims about that guy?
Yes there are many verified witnesses. Including a interview with a non charismatic evangelist who as a young boy witnessed it. He said it was genuine 😊. His name was Lenord Ravinhill.
@@matthewashman1406 Can you tell me about the exorcism? Would you consider yourself to be "possessed" before? My doubt lays with humanity, of The Father's goodness there is no doubt.
@@tomgjokaj Mark 9:38-40 Anyone Not Against Us Is for Us [38] John said to him, “Teacher, we saw someone casting out demons in your name, and we tried to stop him, because he was not following us.” [39] But Jesus said, “Do not stop him, for no one who does a mighty work in my name will be able soon afterward to speak evil of me. [40] For the one who is not against us is for us.
Catholic priests have a special authority but any one who is a believer can cast our demons. If one is possessed best see a priest and one who is trained in exorcisms.
Are you really asking if Prostestants are Christians in the eyes of Jesus and able to be saved? If so, yes, so long as they are baptised in the name of the Trinity. But they are missing out on the benefits of the Sacraments.
Catholic priests act in persona of Christ ie in his holy name to cast our demons, I’m sure mr akin will agree, Protestants are separated from the fullness of truth so should be considered with caution.
He answers many questions in this segment, the exorcism question was just one of them. And of course they can be valid, as in, they get the demons out. Of course they're illicit which brings up a whole host of other issues.
Catholic exorcists cast out demons in the name of Jesus in persona of Christ. Jesus wasn’t Protestant or catholic that’s right he was Jewish. Anyone today who is a follower of Christ could possibly exorcise a possessed person, yet Jesus founded one church of which Protestants are indirectly members of whether they profess to be or protest to be. Catholic means 1 universal church, Jesus is 1 universal lord who insituted the universal church for all believers to be saved,and so the priesthood has a certain authority. I assume you are saying catholicsm and Jesus are distinct, I believe they cannot be separated today. May god bless you and protect you from lies of our enemy, the evil one. We are one body and when we stand together in his truth as delivered, the devil has no chance.
We are the church he founded on that Passover Seder. ordained his first Priests and established the sacrament of the Holy Eucharist. I would say he was.
@: Jesus said I am the way and the truth and no one comes to the father except through me! Pope Francis teaches universalism, and Vatican two teaches that the god of Islam is the same as God in the Old Testament. The RCC says it is Christian yet actually contradicts the Bible! If a prophet does not speak according to the law and the prophets there is no light in them. The church talks about the Ten Commandment’s yet keeps Sunday instead of Saturday as the sabbath! In fact in the catechism they have removed the second commandment and split the tenth in order justify idolatry! This is blasphemy of the highest order! You may want to reconsider you choice of religion and start obey Jesus and the Bible instead of the church and it’s traditions!
@@kensmith8152😂😂😂😂 so you think Jesus Church is wrong and you are right? Think again Jesus Christ promised a Devine assistance to his holy Church and it is the only Church with all truths, basically you can’t understand Catholicism, it takes wisdom to understand it. Sunday is the day for Christians since they are a new creation. You can read it in the Bible acts of the apostles, revelation, the disciples kept it and observed it and that is why even Paul castigated sabbath observers.
@: As an ex Catholic I’ve studied Catholicism more than most Catholics have. I’m not being boastful here, I’m just saying. However, that being said, anyone who has studied the Bible alongside the catechism of the church will find the two almost mutually exclusive theologically. I’m glad that I don’t have to do Catholic apologetic’s because it’s complex and convoluted. The addition of the magisterium and spurious books are a good example of how RCC theology was made up as it went along
Jimmy Akin, unlike the Catholic exorcist, the Christian way of casting outd dmons, is the Biblical way. Christians have the gifts of the Spirit, and three of those gifts are the revelation gifts. The word of Wisdom. The word of Knowledge and The Discerning of spirits. Jimmy Akin didn't mention one of them.
He mentioned them implicitly. The gifts you mentioned are found among all Christians, both Catholic Christians and other kinds. The term "Christians" is a set or category which includes Catholics (the largest group of Christians), plus various kinds of Orthodox Christians (Eastern, Oriental, etc.), plus various kinds of Protestant Christians (Lutheran, Anglican, Methodist, Presbyterian, and so on). The term "Christian" is conventionally used of all those groups because they share common valid (Trinitarian) baptism. (There are some minor exceptions in some Protestant groups that have altered the baptismal formula, but these are small splinter sects.) The Christians whose traditions include formalized rites for exorcism will talk about the various gifts, including Discernment, when asked directly about them. But those gifts are exercised invisibly, for the most part; and exorcism is only one of many contexts in which they might be exercised. So it's only natural that when you ask a Catholic about exorcism, specifically, he tends to answer specifically about the rite, rather than detouring into a topic about the gifts.
Here is something to think about; Catholic exorcism, protects the victim that experience demonic behavior and violence by not being video taped or done in public. Protestant “exorcism” is in front of people, to glorify themselves instead of protecting the victim. Can you imagine, let’s just say that you’re possessed. Some man, Protestant, came come in with video cameras and does an exorcism. Then one day, you look at it and see the beating you take from getting the demon or demons out. You wouldn’t want to show people that… but the man preforming it, does it for him. Can you imagine how small you would feel, knowing that person did it for their gratification instead of glory of God? Matthew 7:21-23. “Not every one who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you evildoers.’” As you’re probably going to send me a Bible verse that defends your position. Remember; there were other book that were rejected, not banned, from the Bible from New Testament has the same books from the 4th century, and the 19th century. It’s come down to interpretation, which the book of Peter (2 Peter 19-21) prohibits one’s own interpretations because no prophecy’s ever comes from man but men moved from the Holy Spirit. That begs the question, which interpretations is correct? The denominations that have been around for 500 years, or the ONE that has been around for 2000 years.
The catholic church is discussed in the bible. Revelation chapter 17 is the prophesy for the catholic church. Akin is clueless man of an unstable mind.
"CHALLENGE “The Catholic Church is the whore of Babylon.” DEFENSE The whore of Babylon is described in detail in Revelation 16:19-19:4. Babylon was a city in ancient Mesopotamia (modern Iraq), but scholars recognize the use of “Babylon” in Revelation as a symbolic designa- tion of another city (cf. 11:8; also cf. 1 Peter 5:13, where Peter, who is known to have been in Rome, refers to being in “Babylon”): The whore is depicted persecuting Christians (cf. 17:6, 14). She is seated on a beast with seven heads, which are identified as seven hills (17:9) and seven kings (17:10). The beast also has ten horns, which hate the whore, attack her, and burn her with fire (17:16). The whore is said to be “the great city which has dominion over the kings of the earth” (17:18).Most scholars see these as pointing to the ancient, pagan city of Rome, which persecuted Christians, which was built on seven hills, which had a line of emperors plausibly identified with the beast (see Day 203), and which was the capitol of the major empire of the day. Some scholars have seen the clues as pointing to another city-Jerusalem-which also persecuted Christians in the first century, whose authorities were allied with and supported by the Roman empire (and thus “seated” on the beast), and which was attacked and burned by an alliance of Roman and other troops in A.D. 70, as Jesus predicted (Mark 13). Further, Revelation 11:8 speaks of “the great city” where the “Lord was crucified,” the Old Testament speaks of Jerusalem as a whore (Isa. 1:21; Ezek. 16:1, 15-35), and the whore is the antithesis of the bride of Christ, the “New Jerusalem” (Rev. 21:2-22:5), suggesting the old Jerusalem. Both identifications are possible, but neither fits the Catholic Church. Indeed, according to the standard anti-Catholic theory, the Catholic Church did not exist in the first century and thus could not persecute the apostles, as the whore did (Rev. 18:20). More fundamentally, Revelation was meant to be understood by the original audience as describing what would happen soon (Rev. 1:1). The audience would have no way of understanding the whore as a fu- ture Church rather than one of the persecuting cities of their own day." www.catholic.com/audio/ddp/the-whore-of-babylon
The bible discusses the Catholic Church indeed but in good light your interpretation of said scripture is yours and yours alone, thanks be to god for this one church that Christ instituted on St Peter. Mr Akin is in my discernment a good guy sound in Christian knowledge, philosophy and v knowledgeable,of many subjects. Either I’m right or you are wrong it’s a question of discernment but before I think badly of anyone I would be careful not to call what is good as bad as scripture warns. Take care and god bless. Pax Christi.
@toneyh1 Jesus makes a distinction between Peter and the rock he will build hmhis church on. He makes Peter aware, even though your name is rock, I want to be clear that what I will build my church on the rock that is your declaration that I am God.
I just remember when Inspiring Philosophy was on Pints with Aquinas, and when IP mentioned that when he was a kid at his church, some kids threw him down a staircase, and Matt asked if that was a fundamental protestant exorcism.
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isn’t IP catholic ?
@@fonsouribe He wants to keep his denomination private
@@fonsouribeI believe he is Eastern Orthodox
@@fonsouribe hes doesn't say its possible.
Jimmy - you have always been a great source of helpful information for me. Thank you for sharing your talents with us.
"Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities, some consider to be... unnatural."
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I love that the first scene I see of a "weird questions" episode is the host placidly sitting in studio next to an invisible Jimmy Akin 😆
I've read in Father Amorth's book that a man was successfully exorcised by some Protestants, and this kind of perplexed Father Amorth, eventually realizing that there is power in the name of Christ outside the Catholic Church.
I am old enough to have done the Baltimore Catachism of 1891 and the 1921 revision. Pre Vatican ll Catholic here.
The way my luck sometimes runs, I can imagine an extra terrestrial approaching me, asking to come to Church with me and the poor priest dying between consecrating the wafer and the wine.........
The question of whether a protestant exorcism is valid perhaps best tested by observing the 'fruit' of the exorcism. I knew an Anglican minister who carried out an exorcism which certainly seemed to work, the previous problems ceased to manifest.
Good show, brothers!
The first thing that comes to mind is Jesus telling The Apostles about the future "many shall come in my name and perform miracles....." (Paraphrased it)
Don't shoot the messenger.
The first thing that comes to my mind is .
Mark 9:38-40
38 John said to him, “Teacher, we saw someone casting out demons in your name, and we tried to stop him, because he was not following us.” 39 But Jesus said, “Do not stop him, for no one who does a mighty work in my name will be able soon afterward to speak evil of me. 40 For the one who is not against us is for us.
I think it’s kinda strange that the Catholic Church does ever consider this verse. Now don’t get me wrong I’m sure there are many fakes out there. My point is that from this verse ,the power to do this is from Jesus in the name of Jesus ,not the Catholic Church. So you don’t have to be catholic or part of the Catholic Church to cast out demons. These people in the verse weren’t.
Im sure this applies to other things.
@ThatGuy-nr5sp Without a doubt,any shall come in His name and perform wonders.
However, shall He knows them?
(As per His own words).
I'll give an example from my personal experiences:
A grunt that follows his orders to the best of his ability is maybe not noticed, but he follows orders handed down by the chain of command.
A soldier that disregards his orders or neglects them or rejects the chain of command, even if he does a heroic act in the course of battle, is not a reliable soldier, in fact, he deserves to be reprimanded or even court marshalled (depending on the severity of the CRIME).
To make my point crystal clear, I shall quote one line from a very well known song among believers:
"Onward Christian soldiers..."
How I wish that my communication skills were better, but this is maybe the best I can do with my limited abilities and vocab.
Yet, I and everyone should take note of your citation from The Holy Bible, as it is made clear what we as Christian soldiers are to do and that the judgement is for the King and those He names to ensure Justice is served. It is not for us to Judge. "No casting the first stone" often comes to mind, even though many feel that anything said that they don't want to hear is a load of boulders hurled at them.
Guess they are lucky enough never to have had constant shelling as a form of adrenaline and urine boosting rush!
@@ThatGuy-nr5sp Plenty of non-Catholics and non-Christians can do good things, the Catholic Church never denied this and in fact affirms it explicitly.
In discussing "The Creature from the Black Lagoon" movies, there was also the homage film, "The Shape of Water" (2017). That film, directed by Guillermo del Toro, won Best Picture that year. del Toro said that he loved the old "Creature" movies and wanted to make a film in which the creature, who is sadly the last of his kind, is able to win the girl's heart. He is presented almost as another species of human. (As a warning, it does contain some content that is not suitable for children.)
You gotta love, Pastor Bob Larson 😁
I know a very godly Protestant exorcist, my very own mother and her husband were involved in helping praying during some exorcisms he performed. This man lived a long celibate life as a Protestant priest, as a man no one could reproach, helping the poor, and helped tons of people be exorcised.
You Protestants end the Holy Priesthood, After Luther started his church you burned that bridge. Please don't use the "word " Priest as you always mis quote that vs of the Bible
@@ronaldbobeck9636don't take offence 😊
@ lol ope you convinced me to become Catholic with the attitude, thx 😆 when did I say I was Protestant anyway. Y’all salty, or are you a troll that is actually determined to turn people away from Catholicism?
You don’t even know if the person typing is a Protestant. Your church doesn’t teach you to talk to Protestants that way and you aren’t helping or convincing anyone with your comment.
There were people casting out demons in the Bible in the name of Jesus but didn't follow Him and the Apostles were telling Jesus and Jesus said to let them, that those that are not against us are for us.
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I personally think that getting your children to do all the sacrament rites of initiation at the same time is a mistake as it is a journey and a process of learning. Thanks to the Priests that catechized me in order to be ready for each of the sacraments I've been able to retain their teachings as it wasn't all at once.
It was a process of many many weeks or months can't really remember it was a long time ago. I was about 13 when I finished being catechized by the priests and the rite of confirmation is a nice way to show that you are now an adult of the church who is responsible for their own salvation.
When do catholics ask Jesus into their hearts?
Preferably as soon as they learn to comprehend the invitation, @@frenchtoast2319 -- when we teach our children to invite Jesus into their hearts, He has their permission and desire for Jesus to reveal Himself to them, and to prepare them for a lifetime of service to the Gospel. That doesn't mean some of the children won't be drawn to the world and into error, though. As they grow up, they may forget their innocent faith. But it's never too late as long as one is alive. I invite Jesus into my heart every day and every moment of every day. I don't ever want to be separated from Him.
@@frenchtoast2319when does the Bible say to ask Jesus into our heart?
@emmapratka3982 Romans 10:9-10 "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved"
1 Corinthians 6:19-20: When a person places their trust in Christ, the Spirit of God comes to dwell within them
But that's not what the sacrament of Confirmation is for. The Christian isn't finished being catechized until he dies. Confirmation is part of the Christian initiation, meaning beginning in the Faith.
THE TEMPEST - Lili
It gives you comfort just to think that God is by your side
To help you with your petty wants, you only have to pray
Everything given or denied, it’s part of his great plan
But what of when your world falls down, loss of home and pride
Nature is a cruel beast, she arrives to ruin and flay
She doesn’t care, she doesn’t think, of Gods, of love or man. -
The cruel sea, the skies and wind all dark with careless hate
Your home picked up and flung aside, the air fulfilled with death
Is this the plan he had for you? You still think he is great
Perhaps you think that he is kind for sparing most his flock
A score of reasons to excuse, indifference, sin or fate
It’s still the same, your world is gone, your hopes and prayers a mock. -
And as you stare into the sky and bend your knees in thanks
Your neighbor’s dead, your town a wreck, what thanks is due to him?
Who made your life a misery, no future left for you
You’re leaving now, your fate unknown a victim of his whim
You’ll join the mass of those he’s scorned, the lost the faithful too
Perhaps this trial will make you think, this God cannot be true. -
If he is love then what’s this hate, inflicted on mankind
It’s not just here, it’s everywhere, Infidel and faithful alike
He doesn’t care, he strikes us all, and we’re supposed to find
The meaning of the tragedy, the reason of the plan
Be grateful for the mercy, mercy no one sees, mercy undefined
The game he’s played with human pawns, the game he’s played with man. -
The great Khayyam wrote of the game, a checkerboard of lies
He knows the fate of everyone and watches from above
And you may lift your hands to him, expectant of his love
He only cares about the game, the players live or die
And if you die that is the cost of being in the game
A player faithful might be spared, the wanting to the flames.
@@Lili-Benovent Jesus loves you. The real one. Not the imaginary one you claim to have "seen" in the supermarket.
@@Lili-Benovent you need help.
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Great video, but squid taste really good.
Validity refers to legality. What I think is meant is are non-priest exorcisms effective?
You’re thinking of licitness, not validity
@@universeman657 I'm right on this one. A valid ID is one that confirms who you are. A valid passport allows you to travel abroad. Effective refers to results - in other words are demons actually removed from the subject of the exorcism of a non-priest.
Luke 9:49-50
Here is a question, which maybe would be worth a whole mysterious world, idk. What's the deal with Smith Wigglesworth. Any truth to the numerous claims about that guy?
Yes there are many verified witnesses. Including a interview with a non charismatic evangelist who as a young boy witnessed it. He said it was genuine 😊. His name was Lenord Ravinhill.
I would say no, because they are performative a spectacle , an emotional experience rather than a spiritual experience.
What do you call Latin mass
Umm having been set free from demonic activity in my life ,I know 1st hand it's real. Bless u
@@matthewashman1406 Can you tell me about the exorcism? Would you consider yourself to be "possessed" before? My doubt lays with humanity, of The Father's goodness there is no doubt.
I m not sure what you mean. Are you saying The Latin Mass is emotional rather than spiritual?
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Anyone who has the spirit of Jesus can drive demons out.
That's not true
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Mark 9:38-40
Anyone Not Against Us Is for Us
[38] John said to him, “Teacher, we saw someone casting out demons in your name, and we tried to stop him, because he was not following us.” [39] But Jesus said, “Do not stop him, for no one who does a mighty work in my name will be able soon afterward to speak evil of me. [40] For the one who is not against us is for us.
@@ThatGuy-nr5sp there's a reason why Catholic priests are exorcist regular people cannot be exorcist
Catholic priests have a special authority but any one who is a believer can cast our demons. If one is possessed best see a priest and one who is trained in exorcisms.
@@toneyh1there's nothing in scripture that says priests have extra authority to do an exorcism.
Are Protestants valid?
What about partial papal resignations that only resign the active ministry and not the office?
@ What about them?
@@HaMashiachSaves Are they valid?
@ Do you have any thoughts as to why they would not be?
Are you really asking if Prostestants are Christians in the eyes of Jesus and able to be saved? If so, yes, so long as they are baptised in the name of the Trinity. But they are missing out on the benefits of the Sacraments.
In my name thy shall cast out demons …JESUS…
Your bordering on ridiculous now.
Catholic priests act in persona of Christ ie in his holy name to cast our demons, I’m sure mr akin will agree, Protestants are separated from the fullness of truth so should be considered with caution.
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No they are not. Next question.
10 second answer that stretched to one hour. Facepalm.
He answers many questions in this segment, the exorcism question was just one of them. And of course they can be valid, as in, they get the demons out. Of course they're illicit which brings up a whole host of other issues.
Jesus cast out demons, and he certainly wasn’t Catholic!
Catholic exorcists cast out demons in the name of Jesus in persona of Christ. Jesus wasn’t Protestant or catholic that’s right he was Jewish. Anyone today who is a follower of Christ could possibly exorcise a possessed person, yet Jesus founded one church of which Protestants are indirectly members of whether they profess to be or protest to be. Catholic means 1 universal church, Jesus is 1 universal lord who insituted the universal church for all believers to be saved,and so the priesthood has a certain authority. I assume you are saying catholicsm and Jesus are distinct, I believe they cannot be separated today. May god bless you and protect you from lies of our enemy, the evil one. We are one body and when we stand together in his truth as delivered, the devil has no chance.
We are the church he founded on that Passover Seder. ordained his first Priests and established the sacrament of the Holy Eucharist. I would say he was.
@: Jesus said I am the way and the truth and no one comes to the father except through me!
Pope Francis teaches universalism, and Vatican two teaches that the god of Islam is the same as God in the Old Testament. The RCC says it is Christian yet actually contradicts the Bible! If a prophet does not speak according to the law and the prophets there is no light in them.
The church talks about the Ten Commandment’s yet keeps Sunday instead of Saturday as the sabbath!
In fact in the catechism they have removed the second commandment and split the tenth in order justify idolatry! This is blasphemy of the highest order! You may want to reconsider you choice of religion and start obey Jesus and the Bible instead of the church and it’s traditions!
@@kensmith8152😂😂😂😂 so you think Jesus Church is wrong and you are right? Think again Jesus Christ promised a Devine assistance to his holy Church and it is the only Church with all truths, basically you can’t understand Catholicism, it takes wisdom to understand it. Sunday is the day for Christians since they are a new creation. You can read it in the Bible acts of the apostles, revelation, the disciples kept it and observed it and that is why even Paul castigated sabbath observers.
@: As an ex Catholic I’ve studied Catholicism more than most Catholics have. I’m not being boastful here, I’m just saying.
However, that being said, anyone who has studied the Bible alongside the catechism of the church will find the two almost mutually exclusive theologically. I’m glad that I don’t have to do Catholic apologetic’s because it’s complex and convoluted. The addition of the magisterium and spurious books are a good example of how RCC theology was made up as it went along
Jimmy Akin, unlike the Catholic exorcist, the Christian way of casting outd dmons, is the Biblical way. Christians have the gifts of the Spirit, and three of those gifts are the revelation gifts. The word of Wisdom. The word of Knowledge and The Discerning of spirits. Jimmy Akin didn't mention one of them.
He mentioned them implicitly. The gifts you mentioned are found among all Christians, both Catholic Christians and other kinds. The term "Christians" is a set or category which includes Catholics (the largest group of Christians), plus various kinds of Orthodox Christians (Eastern, Oriental, etc.), plus various kinds of Protestant Christians (Lutheran, Anglican, Methodist, Presbyterian, and so on). The term "Christian" is conventionally used of all those groups because they share common valid (Trinitarian) baptism. (There are some minor exceptions in some Protestant groups that have altered the baptismal formula, but these are small splinter sects.)
The Christians whose traditions include formalized rites for exorcism will talk about the various gifts, including Discernment, when asked directly about them. But those gifts are exercised invisibly, for the most part; and exorcism is only one of many contexts in which they might be exercised.
So it's only natural that when you ask a Catholic about exorcism, specifically, he tends to answer specifically about the rite, rather than detouring into a topic about the gifts.
Here is something to think about; Catholic exorcism, protects the victim that experience demonic behavior and violence by not being video taped or done in public. Protestant “exorcism” is in front of people, to glorify themselves instead of protecting the victim.
Can you imagine, let’s just say that you’re possessed. Some man, Protestant, came come in with video cameras and does an exorcism. Then one day, you look at it and see the beating you take from getting the demon or demons out. You wouldn’t want to show people that… but the man preforming it, does it for him. Can you imagine how small you would feel, knowing that person did it for their gratification instead of glory of God?
Matthew 7:21-23. “Not every one who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you evildoers.’”
As you’re probably going to send me a Bible verse that defends your position. Remember; there were other book that were rejected, not banned, from the Bible from New Testament has the same books from the 4th century, and the 19th century. It’s come down to interpretation, which the book of Peter (2 Peter 19-21) prohibits one’s own interpretations because no prophecy’s ever comes from man but men moved from the Holy Spirit.
That begs the question, which interpretations is correct? The denominations that have been around for 500 years, or the ONE that has been around for 2000 years.
Where in the Bible does it explain in detail how a Christian is to do an exorcism and what gifts of the spirit are crucial to it?
@owlintrenchcoat Jesus said cast out demons in His name, 16: 16, like the 70 did in Lk 10: 17, and Paul in Acts 16: 18.
@@alanhales6369Have you ever seen a Catholic exorcism, not talking about the movie crap
The catholic church is discussed in the bible. Revelation chapter 17 is the prophesy for the catholic church. Akin is clueless man of an unstable mind.
"CHALLENGE
“The Catholic Church is the whore of Babylon.”
DEFENSE
The whore of Babylon is described in detail in Revelation 16:19-19:4.
Babylon was a city in ancient Mesopotamia (modern Iraq), but scholars recognize the use of “Babylon” in Revelation as a symbolic designa- tion of another city (cf. 11:8; also cf. 1 Peter 5:13, where Peter, who is known to have been in Rome, refers to being in “Babylon”):
The whore is depicted persecuting Christians (cf. 17:6, 14).
She is seated on a beast with seven heads, which are identified as seven hills (17:9) and seven kings (17:10).
The beast also has ten horns, which hate the whore, attack her, and burn her with fire (17:16).
The whore is said to be “the great city which has dominion over the kings of the earth” (17:18).Most scholars see these as pointing to the ancient, pagan city of Rome, which persecuted Christians, which was built on seven hills, which had a line of emperors plausibly identified with the beast (see Day 203), and which was the capitol of the major empire of the day.
Some scholars have seen the clues as pointing to another city-Jerusalem-which also persecuted Christians in the first century, whose authorities were allied with and supported by the Roman empire (and thus “seated” on the beast), and which was attacked and burned by an alliance of Roman and other troops in A.D. 70, as Jesus predicted (Mark 13). Further, Revelation 11:8 speaks of “the great city” where the “Lord was crucified,” the Old Testament speaks of Jerusalem as a whore (Isa. 1:21; Ezek. 16:1, 15-35), and the whore is the antithesis of the bride of Christ, the “New Jerusalem” (Rev. 21:2-22:5), suggesting the old Jerusalem.
Both identifications are possible, but neither fits the Catholic Church. Indeed, according to the standard anti-Catholic theory, the Catholic Church did not exist in the first century and thus could not persecute the apostles, as the whore did (Rev. 18:20).
More fundamentally, Revelation was meant to be understood by the original audience as describing what would happen soon (Rev. 1:1). The audience would have no way of understanding the whore as a fu- ture Church rather than one of the persecuting cities of their own day."
www.catholic.com/audio/ddp/the-whore-of-babylon
The bible discusses the Catholic Church indeed but in good light your interpretation of said scripture is yours and yours alone, thanks be to god for this one church that Christ instituted on St Peter. Mr Akin is in my discernment a good guy sound in Christian knowledge, philosophy and v knowledgeable,of many subjects. Either I’m right or you are wrong it’s a question of discernment but before I think badly of anyone I would be careful not to call what is good as bad as scripture warns. Take care and god bless. Pax Christi.
Speaking of unstable minds ...
@toneyh1 Jesus makes a distinction between Peter and the rock he will build hmhis church on. He makes Peter aware, even though your name is rock, I want to be clear that what I will build my church on the rock that is your declaration that I am God.
@frenchtoast2319 Your interpretation of Matt 16:18 is nonsensical and therefore cannot possibly be guided by the Holy Spirit