How Pellets and Slugs are Stabilized | AB101 Pt.9

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  • Diabolo pellets and bullets/slugs are completely different, and therefore require different barrels to reach their full potential at longer ranges. In this episode we look at how these projectiles differ, and how we can stabilise them.
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  • @hotchihuahua1546
    @hotchihuahua1546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    You are the Einstein of pellet flight , the Airgun industry should one day give out an award for your contribution to this sport !

  • @munkytaint666
    @munkytaint666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this series is so amazing and informative, i'm going to have to watch each episode multiple times to have any chance of absorbing so much fascinating information... and i'm looking forward to each and every viewing! Thanks for all your exhaustive research and teaching, Matt!!!

  • @iandixon9604
    @iandixon9604 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Brilliant stuff Matt, very informative and put across in an easy to understand way. Been saying for years that everything to do with airguns has evolved except what we actually put through them. Fantastic that you are sharing your valuable knowledge on this subject with us. Keep up the great work and thank you.

  • @johnnysacco100
    @johnnysacco100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Matt your incredible, the amount of knowledge you bring to your subscribers shows how dedicated you are to the sport and hobby of air gunning. You never fail to amaze me, the amount of time you put in, to research and prove your theories, and then share them with us, deserves my respect. I have learned so much following you, my abilities shooting air rifles have improved noticeably. Keep it up,Cheers.

  • @KC-dx5pf
    @KC-dx5pf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ok Matt, now you’ve out done yourself! I can only imagine how much time and research this video took. I see you every year at EBR. You are the mad scientist of our sport! I also meant to thank you last year for your work, as I did very well in the sport class. I cought up with Ted and thanked him, and missed you. Without your knowledge I would not have done as well! I check your vids and listen to everything you say. Been shooting all my life and I still learn so much from you. See you in October. Thank you! Keith

  • @jitterox
    @jitterox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    SOOOOO been looking forward to these videos!!!! I'm stoked they're back on the drawing board! Thanks Matt!!!!

  • @thomasguertin4200
    @thomasguertin4200 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another great vid Matt. I know that took a lot of your time to make and I appreciate that from you. You are The Man !!

  • @UtahAirguns
    @UtahAirguns 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Great information, Matt!

  • @ericaman5393
    @ericaman5393 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow!! Despite the wealth of information out there, this is HANDS DOWN some of the most informative content I have ever seen. Kudos on a top notch informative video!!!

  • @the.original.throwback
    @the.original.throwback 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Thanks, Matt. Well done, and without scaring viewers with math monsters. I find it fascinating that a centuries old technology can still hold mysteries that, once investigated and solved, produce such amazing performance improvements. More, please! Jess

    • @EarthSurferUSA
      @EarthSurferUSA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When you want performance, math is your friend, friend. It sure beats guessing and coming up with false conclusions, but is still not immune.

    • @the.original.throwback
      @the.original.throwback 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Couldn't agree more. Unfortunately, many people are nearly phobic about math and run the other way when it is used to explain things like ballistics, especially here in the USA. I suspect the culprit is how math is taught in our public schools, too often convincing kids that math is a foe rather than a friend. Jess

  • @hendrikvanderryst3361
    @hendrikvanderryst3361 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Matt, absolutely amazing. Simple with good illustrations for us commoners.....make South Africa proud.

  • @CreepyDan
    @CreepyDan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for this Matt, this helps explain a lot. I have been testing out some slugs in my air rifle with some pretty good results, I will have to find out what the twist rate is of the barrel. Really appreciate you and your channel, you have done so much for the airgun industry, cheers!

  • @FowlersMakeryandMischief
    @FowlersMakeryandMischief 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome

  • @trpe71
    @trpe71 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great info Matt, really love seeing the shift to slugs in the AG world!

  • @kevbell5346
    @kevbell5346 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for very much for this very informative series - I'm looking forward to seeing the next one.

  • @clmarek1
    @clmarek1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Really looking forward to the rest of this series.
    This is one of my favorite aspects to airguns. You have this emerging technology and knowledge coming out of the sport that is really pushing it past all preconceived boundaries. Precision long range airgunning is the future.
    The past 5 or 6 years has been exciting. The next 5 are going to get really crazy. Ohhh YEAH!!!!

  • @jerryjohnsonii4181
    @jerryjohnsonii4181 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I absolutely enjoyed this video Sir. Your team did a great job on this episode. Your channel is the Best on explaining firearms and what they do and also bullets to. Well Done and my favorite episode.

  • @BullseyeBob
    @BullseyeBob 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dang excellent video Matt.....the best production out there on this topic.

  • @klrdto3250
    @klrdto3250 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, one of the best videos Ive seen yet on pellet motion, thank you indeed

  • @hadrienberthet2575
    @hadrienberthet2575 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very very interesting.. Many things that i've thought about in the past, but never thought it would really matter to any airgunner .. You are truly a precision shooter Matt, nice to hear someone care more about deep facts than simple satisfying results

  • @tandtoutdoors5154
    @tandtoutdoors5154 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Matt that's some fantastic info sir, thank you. I am avid powder burner hunter and use this for my hunting. I now have the info I need to better my airgun hunting adventures. Keep it up sir.

  • @psnwpestsnipernorthwest2196
    @psnwpestsnipernorthwest2196 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this series! Keep them coming, Matt.

  • @cornflake73
    @cornflake73 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't realize there was so much to consider when purchasing your first pellet gun. Thanks for sharing this with us.

  • @tonyv8925
    @tonyv8925 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative video...66 years old and I have learned something useful today. Have been pellet gun hunting for about 60 years and did not know this...grin...now I know which pellets to use in my rifle...thank you for your work!

  • @user-kr9kp2wk8e
    @user-kr9kp2wk8e 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watch youtube every day. you are the best expert and make the best videos explain about airgun and airgun shooting. Greeting fron your neighbour country Zambia !

  • @airarmshuntingzwgamoyetish2353
    @airarmshuntingzwgamoyetish2353 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video keep up the good work you're my inspiration and I've learnt alot from you

  • @vassilisgreece2446
    @vassilisgreece2446 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so mutch !
    I have learn so mutch from this videos and understand how everythink works .
    Verry good work ! 😁👍🏻

  • @BryonGaskin
    @BryonGaskin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome..........I can't stop watching these. The most profound thing said in the air gun world in the last 10 years "build the project around the gun". Why are we limiting ourselves to 900 fps; brilliant.

  • @gregbeeman2077
    @gregbeeman2077 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Three years late but brilliant presentation. It's very counterintuitive coming from centerfire rifle shooting, but you explain the differences very well. What an exciting time for air rifles. There are going to be some amazing developments in the coming years. TNX

  • @leerobinson6086
    @leerobinson6086 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic stuff matt! This was very educational....👍👍👍

  • @easternblocairguns2728
    @easternblocairguns2728 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was awesome! I love this science stuff. Matt, your the best in describing this stuff.

  • @timlarcombe9096
    @timlarcombe9096 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One word, excellent!

  • @robertlee6885
    @robertlee6885 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5 Years later but.. Absolutely awesome information. Thank you.

  • @sussexspaceforge2429
    @sussexspaceforge2429 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    very informative, well done

  • @marvin984
    @marvin984 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good info and thanks for all the time and work as well as cost you have put into educating air gunners . Marvin

  • @rosscanner1977
    @rosscanner1977 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    very informative. good job Matt and thank you very much.

  • @tyroneclarke1666
    @tyroneclarke1666 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Matt. Your tutorial videos are so good. You always explain things very well. I’ve learnt so much and watch your videos with a lot of interest. Regards from Perth W.A. 🦘

  • @jakemurphy9536
    @jakemurphy9536 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the first video of yours I have watched. Highly informative and very interesting. I will be subscribing and watching more of them.

  • @Mike-xi4zt
    @Mike-xi4zt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your videos are great. I have 2 years of college level Physics and a Bachelor of science Electrical engineering and at minimum, double the amount of years of experience shooting. I have seen your presentation on bullet behavior from other imaginary experts. There are no physics equations that predict any spinning object becomes OVER-STABILIZED from to much rotation, even if the center of gravity is off center. The exact opposite is predicted by actual physics. The faster any object spins the more stable and resistant to change it becomes. If it is out of balance the rotational force can exceed the outward force caused by the imbalanced center of gravity. When you sum the vectored forces the effect is not a wobbling spiral. Wobbling spirals are caused from not enough spin to properly stabilize, not to much spin. The bottom line is the faster anything spins, even out of balance the more stable it becomes. The only ways this is ever not correct, is when the speed of the bullet is fast enough to cause the bullet to be stripped by the rifling, where heat, friction, or centrifugal force causes the bullet to melt or loose its shape changing how air friction acts on the bullet during it's flight. Shooting lightweight bullets in high twist rates causing them to become over-stabilized is mythological nonsense. I have shot .224 40 grain out of a custom 1 in 6 twist and they are not over stabilized from to much spin.
    Spin drift is also myth.The bullet is spinning perpendicular to the direction of force that spin effects movement of the spinning object and the net force is zero, equaling zero spin drift. One would have to have the bullet spinning off perpendicular to direction of travel for spin drift to happen. And your statement about rate of spin changing during flight was off. The RPM will remain the same through flight unless friction from air acts in a way to reduce RPM. The RPM remains the same and is independent of velocity.

    • @Oregon-airguns
      @Oregon-airguns 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Deplorable Delusion haha I think this one deserves a response from the creator.

  • @leighjones5551
    @leighjones5551 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative, a very dynamic and complex subject. Thanks for the explanations.

  • @monkyshine5543
    @monkyshine5543 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video really makes you think about all the technology to produce an accurate airgun.

  • @philthefluter1
    @philthefluter1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant presentation,

  • @AirTanksPlus
    @AirTanksPlus 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome Video, you are doing a great job of explaining everything.

  • @mayankbanerjee3355
    @mayankbanerjee3355 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "Father of Modern Airgun". You know your stuff.

  • @neacailalvaran5271
    @neacailalvaran5271 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very detailed. Greetings from Philippines Matt!

  • @alexbiene2774
    @alexbiene2774 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    really interesting and well explained

  • @lensman5762
    @lensman5762 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting topic and well presented. Thanks.

  • @falconclutch4051
    @falconclutch4051 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, I feel like the air gun industry is going through a rapid revolution with all the technology that’s being innovated. I can’t imagine where we will be in the next 10 years.

  • @Liansanga_Zadeng
    @Liansanga_Zadeng 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wooooooooow once again awesome informative video....Matt 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @stevenlee9713
    @stevenlee9713 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Matt you know your stuff. Been in to air riffle’s now for a few years now & I wish I had your knowledge 🙏

  • @worstcat8489
    @worstcat8489 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid. I'd love to see this topic revisited where you start talking about increasing projectile weight (or decreasing it) to tune the projectile to the distance and twist of a particular gun.
    Projectile shape (long-slender, short-fat) and projectile weight, AND twist rate, all work together in the 'stabilization' circus.

  • @ProjectAnubisUSA
    @ProjectAnubisUSA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is EXACTLY what I was looking for as I’m designing less lethal paintball projectiles. Thanks

  • @Pelletonix
    @Pelletonix 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this great information, I can't wait to try slugs.

  • @wpowerwagon
    @wpowerwagon 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing this great info

  • @peternicholls6532
    @peternicholls6532 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative video, I had only seen Ted's Holdover video explain the importance of too much fps (850-900max if remember) can cause destabilisation of the projectile. Just getting back into airgun shooting and learning something new every day. Subscribed... :)

  • @tonchecker
    @tonchecker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent Information. Thanks man.

  • @earthman4222
    @earthman4222 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for explaining so much. Thumbs up for me.

  • @jacobelliott2143
    @jacobelliott2143 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A lot of people really don't understand the science behind it so you explaining this in depth is awesome, I myself have experimented with many different pellets for my break barrels and I've found that the 10.6 grain crosman copper magnum Diablo style pellets work best for my guns. I've used everything from gamo red fire pellets all the way to crosman hollow points and none seemed to carry very good tragectory. As for pills for pcp airguns I have yet to experience the difference as I do not own one.

  • @ts2814
    @ts2814 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    very good lesson, thanks for sharing. suprised to see german axis label at 9:27 :-)

  • @edosancl
    @edosancl 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Matt! as usual very useful info

  • @ronaldfoster7664
    @ronaldfoster7664 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Remarkably Informative!! Thanks!!!

  • @richielee5398
    @richielee5398 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some good info there. Keep up the great work.

  • @Engineerboy100
    @Engineerboy100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was awesome! I am currently trying to figure out how to stabilize my HW45 air pistol at high power. It shoots fine on low pwoer but goes way off on high power.

  • @PalavraVivaUSA
    @PalavraVivaUSA 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    HD video man...love the quality!!

  • @tdlaustralia7791
    @tdlaustralia7791 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great as always.

  • @user-kb6tj9eb4c
    @user-kb6tj9eb4c 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    First-class camera equipment and incomparable exquisite post-production, the picture effect is better than Hollywood blockbuster. Come on! 💪

  • @4hunters
    @4hunters 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    good work bro 👍👍👍

  • @giovannim5101
    @giovannim5101 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent Matt i was waiting for this for a long time i knew for a long time that some thing was going on with the air rifle's barrels. being retired from the firearms industry i know the importance of the twist rate on the barrels and bullet weight , i would like to see FX offer replacement barrels for other air rifle manufactures , or maybe other company's should start changing their process, thank you for a great video.

  • @paulineroyadair3505
    @paulineroyadair3505 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    grate work . Roy

  • @RichardUttingSharpshootingUK
    @RichardUttingSharpshootingUK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating. Interesting differences to the centrefire world

  • @FlyShootTravelSleepRepeat
    @FlyShootTravelSleepRepeat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you very much Pro for your inside ! very interesting infos and experiances of you you are sharing openly Rg Bernd

  • @neilpaul5835
    @neilpaul5835 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi matt I watched a video you made on the air arms ultimate sporter a while back and managed to purchase one secondhand with a rat works regulator fitted great rifle first time out I shot 75-80at my hft club today and achieved my personal best and top gun so very pleased with it keep up the good work Neil

  • @amadeus8006
    @amadeus8006 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Matt. I have also been delving into the study of air rifle ballistics for quite a while and have to agree with you on every point. That most pellets are over spun, manufacturers not knowing what they doing and the subtle importance of velocity in both spin and aerodynamically stabilized projectiles. Running many simulators and have found a few sweet spots in both designs. Slug research was very advanced in Germany in WW2 for heavy artillery. Even by today's standards. Just unfortunate there was never a crossover in tech to the smaller arms. By adapting that research into air rifle tech I think there is a lot we can gain from it. A sort of highly aerodynamically stable slug with extremely high bc. The other concept I would like to test is how accurate a completely smooth bore air rifle can be using modern tech. In the simulators I'm using, there is a relationship for springers between piston mass and barrel friction. By cutting down on friction, you can have a corresponding massive decrease in piston weight. Hoping a choke with smooth bore may offer the very low values required (or an fx barrel), and the needed velocity to make it more stable than the air rifles of old. Pellet quality a given though. Found a way to have high quality blanks made cheaply too. If you interested, it would be great to share some ideas and concepts. :)

  • @jeffreykropp7664
    @jeffreykropp7664 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent!

  • @MadDestructionChaos
    @MadDestructionChaos ปีที่แล้ว

    That was EPIC!!

  • @scottkelly5513
    @scottkelly5513 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice one matt , cheers mate!

  • @EduardoNakiri
    @EduardoNakiri 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video ! Thank you guys !!! When the next episode will be released ? I'm looking forward to get that infos about rotation... See ya !

  • @fajarf3m125
    @fajarf3m125 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the information

  • @PSNGamer
    @PSNGamer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video!

  • @jerryking3208
    @jerryking3208 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. My M3 is on order so I will get to use this info in the near future.

  • @yangni007
    @yangni007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting talk !!! Thanks !

  • @MSRWorkshop
    @MSRWorkshop 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fantastic video

  • @slimtheowl
    @slimtheowl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative..Thank you.

  • @damian5479
    @damian5479 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Espectacular... si señor.!

  • @anamericantoreview1132
    @anamericantoreview1132 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    when I was firing the casing from shotgun shells out of my rifled barrel for my paintball I saw very much what you're describing being most my cameras will film a Max of about 60 frames per second this is the only example but I believe it was more because of the ripples on the shotgun shell gripping the air and pulling it around like nuts it was definitely very interesting to watch

  • @nojnoj3069
    @nojnoj3069 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes. Thankyou Matt. You explain the heavy duty facts without me phasing in and out. .......

  • @ysirliana
    @ysirliana 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    its great matt ,usefull

  • @robertomartinez1741
    @robertomartinez1741 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super nice video Matt

  • @Paxmax
    @Paxmax 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ooooooh... very nicely explained!

  • @shibajimukherjee7574
    @shibajimukherjee7574 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good advice and explain bother Matt......

  • @rtalbott7
    @rtalbott7 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your clairity. ..spoke so must of us can get it! Love your Tshirt... hmm?

  • @ceasarsilva4669
    @ceasarsilva4669 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have u thought or already made ur line of airgun because you already help me make sense of this sport and u helped me make my mind on what airgun i want so u have saved me $ thanks so much matt for ur love and passion for this sport and if have done or will do ur line of airgun i would no doubt buy one i hope manufacturers notice ur wisdom on airguns thanks bro

  • @2musiclover534
    @2musiclover534 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Phenomenal. Liked.

  • @fred9532
    @fred9532 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well done, as usual. Now if Fx would hurry along and ship our slug liners. Good luck Matt.

  • @homieg5388
    @homieg5388 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    4 years later we are seeing more options for slugs at better price hopefully it keeps going that way😁

  • @PhiNguyen-ss7rf
    @PhiNguyen-ss7rf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    usefull tips, apreciated

  • @rudeiglancarlos8665
    @rudeiglancarlos8665 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Valeu pela dica. Entendo pouco de inglês, mas seus vídeos são excelentes. 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @jaywhitney789
    @jaywhitney789 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been waiting matt 😁😁👊👊

  • @JustinEthnostate
    @JustinEthnostate 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, clear and concise explanation! Much appreciated. @7:41 It is mentioned that the deep groves of a LW type barrel do not allow for the rifling to make contact with all parts of the pellet, and that the smooth-twist barrels offer a solution. Can someone explain how it achieves this if the grooves aren't as deep or stiff? At first thought it would be reasonable to assume the deep grooves cut into more of the projectile.

  • @timsmith9169
    @timsmith9169 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good info .I gotta my first air gun at 10 years old that was 61 years ago .I find it very awesome just how far the air gun world has come .👍