@@hansdekorver7365 I think leading the Olympic 800m final from gun to tape and breaking the world record in the process would class as working hard for it 🤔
With hindsight I'm sure Ovett would have skipped defending his 800m title and just concentrated on the 1500m. I fancy he would have got a medal and it would have been a British 1-2-3.
@@joejoejoe4577 Yes, look at Ovett's times for the 3 800m races to the final - in those days it was consecutive days running as well, not like like now with rest days. And he got to the final of the 1500m as a sick man. I think it was as he said re his training camp in San Deago, he realized he was in the best shape of his life.
Yes he was. He ran a fantastic race and was only defeated on the day by an all time great and record holder and a man that was unbeatable for two years.
I can't believe this is nearly 40 years ago, I remember watching it live wondering if Coe could at last get his Olympic gold. Perhaps Coe was a couple of years past his absolute 800m best at this point.
It's interesting as Coe, he never said it, but gave the impression 'first is first , second is nowhere', and yet in both the Olympic 800m finals he fought tooth and nail for the silver when he was miles back from the gold and knew he couldn't win at that stage.
If Coe had preformed in the 800m, he would've won the double. He ran a tactically poor race. Watching it the other day I believe he was overly nervous which probably played a part
@@carlsummers2316 Of course you fail to take into account the incredible motivation Coe got from that defeat. I suggest you read his memoirs about this time. Suffice to say you don't give Ovett a lot of credit.
@@martyn26.2 Ovett was a fantastic runner from 400m to half marathon (incidentally he was a decent high jumper which was his first athletic discipline) He was the 6th and final scorer for the English cross country team that were silver medalists in the 1982 world xc championships. I could go on reciting his career (including his English schools career) but I won't. However Coe was an exceptionally gifted and driven athlete. You don't see many Coe's in a lifetime.
@@martyn26.2 Btw I have Coe's autobiographies, both of them. Coe was the course record holder for the U15's boys at the Frodsham Hill race in 1972, he beat a coaching colleague of mine (Malcolm Plant) into 2nd place. Malcolm was a sub 4 minute miler who was very good friends with Ovett.
Does anyone have the long version of this BBC race? TH-cam had it for awhile, but took it down for some reason. The long version had good replays and commentary, etc.
@@businessdoceurope1372 Yes, I know it's the BBC version, obviously, but they had an extended version that was up for awhile then it became unavailable.
Coe pulling faces means he has lost! Plenty left in the tank and not distressed at all despite hitting top speed. Cruz ran his own race and deserved the win. Beat the fastest 800m runner of all time (then) by some distance.
Coe was likely past his peak over the 800m distance... He could not repeat his performances from 1981...he had lost some basic speed. Cruz was the man of the year in 1984 over 800m... Untouchable... Cruz had potential to improve and run faster, although I suggest injuries prevented Cruz from reaching his peak of 800m.
Coe was likely past his peak over the 800m distance... He could not repeat his performances from 1981...he had lost some basic speed. Cruz was the man of the year in 1984 over 800m... Untouchable... Cruz had potential to improve and run faster, although I suggest injuries prevented Cruz from reaching his peak of 800m.
Coe was likely past his peak over the 800m distance... He could not repeat his performances from 1981...he had lost some basic speed. Cruz was the man of the year in 1984 over 800m... Untouchable... Cruz had potential to improve and run faster, although I suggest injuries prevented Cruz from reaching his peak of 800m.
Coe was likely past his peak over the 800m distance... He could not repeat his performances from 1981...he had lost some basic speed. Cruz was the man of the year in 1984 over 800m... Untouchable... Cruz had potential to improve and run faster, although I suggest injuries prevented Cruz from reaching his peak of 800m.
Coe was likely past his peak over the 800m distance... He could not repeat his performances from 1981...he had lost some basic speed. Cruz was the man of the year in 1984 over 800m... Untouchable... Cruz had potential to improve and run faster, although I suggest injuries prevented Cruz from reaching his peak of 800m.
Donato Sabia died of COVID-19 disease , and he wasn't even in his sixties 😥😥😥... Many other famous sportsmen flied to Heaven that way , like for example Fausto Gresini did . Gresini was a motorcycle former world champion and manager
Given all the illnesses and injuries that had beset him in 1982/83, it was astonishing that Coe was even at the LA Olympics, let alone that he came away with silver in the 800m and gold a few days later in the 1500m, where he became the only man to defend the title. That all says an awful lot about his quality as an athlete.
Cruz foi o único que ameaçou o Recorde de SC que era 1.41,73, fazendo 1.41,77. Até hoje o tempo de Cruz é recorde Sul Americano e brasileiro. Tive a honra de competir com ele no campeonato Brasileiro infanto juvenil, na cidade de Brasília em 1979. Corredor incrível que derrotou os melhores corredores de sua época e que por várias vezes ameaçou o recorde mundial de Sebastian Coe, nos 800 m.
@@Sanctified57 I think Coe was fully fit, in that he was (unusually for him!) free from any injuries or illness, but he built up gradually over seven races during the LA Olympics to hit his peak in the 1500m final. To do the 800m/1500m double would have been a tough ask of Coe, Cruz, Ovett or indeed anyone.
That was the time, Cruz and Gray were running PHENOMENAL spilts ⏱️. Fearless running.👏🏾 Those were the days.🥵❣️
Used to pretend we were all these runners as kids in the 1980s, doing Olympics and making our own medals! Great times and great memory's 🥇🙋❤️
Memory's? Really? You're illiterate.
Joaquim Cruz um Orgulho para nós brasileiros ❤
Such a Great Race. 1:43:00 in 1984 is really Impressive ( over 2 seconds faster than the 2020 Olympic final)
And over 1.5 seconds slower than the 2012 final
@@carlsummers2316 Over 2 seconds.( 1.40.91 ) . But Cruz had to work for it ( The outdoor track ) , with a slower result.
@@hansdekorver7365
I think leading the Olympic 800m final from gun to tape and breaking the world record in the process would class as working hard for it 🤔
The average times today in the 800 metres and 1500 metres are similar to back then.
Sad that Ovett was so debilitated with his health that year.
Ovett ended up in hospital for two nights!
Yes, you have to wonder what he could have done in the 800 or 1500 if healthy. An all-time great.
@@joejoejoe4577 Medals in both, for sure.
With hindsight I'm sure Ovett would have skipped defending his 800m title and just concentrated on the 1500m. I fancy he would have got a medal and it would have been a British 1-2-3.
@@joejoejoe4577 Yes, look at Ovett's times for the 3 800m races to the final - in those days it was consecutive days running as well, not like like now with rest days. And he got to the final of the 1500m as a sick man. I think it was as he said re his training camp in San Deago, he realized he was in the best shape of his life.
What a cracking video, going back 40 years in an instant.
Earl Jones of Eastern Michigan University got the bronze medal in that race. He was a tremendous talent from Detroit, Michigan.
Yes he was. He ran a fantastic race and was only defeated on the day by an all time great and record holder and a man that was unbeatable for two years.
One high quality field totally dominated by Cruz. Awesome that year
Indeed! Cruz could've run faster if pushed in the last 100m.
Totally dominated? He didn't win, cretin.
I can't believe this is nearly 40 years ago, I remember watching it live wondering if Coe could at last get his Olympic gold.
Perhaps Coe was a couple of years past his absolute 800m best at this point.
Do you mean 'at last get his 800m gold to add to the 1500m gold he had won in Moscow'?
@@ajw9533 Yes, poorly worded by myself.
Cruz was fucking amazing
Coe wasn’t even close to Cruz missile 🚀
A mini Juantorena.
Near even splits ~ 51.2 and 51.8
@@APBCTechniqueIn what sense, just this race yes but over all absolutely not.
It's interesting as Coe, he never said it, but gave the impression 'first is first , second is nowhere', and yet in both the Olympic 800m finals he fought tooth and nail for the silver when he was miles back from the gold and knew he couldn't win at that stage.
1980 was for Coe a tactical bad race , walking in the outdoor tracks.
If Coe had preformed in the 800m, he would've won the double.
He ran a tactically poor race.
Watching it the other day I believe he was overly nervous which probably played a part
@@carlsummers2316 Of course you fail to take into account the incredible motivation Coe got from that defeat. I suggest you read his memoirs about this time. Suffice to say you don't give Ovett a lot of credit.
@@martyn26.2
Ovett was a fantastic runner from 400m to half marathon (incidentally he was a decent high jumper which was his first athletic discipline)
He was the 6th and final scorer for the English cross country team that were silver medalists in the 1982 world xc championships. I could go on reciting his career (including his English schools career) but I won't.
However Coe was an exceptionally gifted and driven athlete.
You don't see many Coe's in a lifetime.
@@martyn26.2
Btw I have Coe's autobiographies, both of them.
Coe was the course record holder for the U15's boys at the Frodsham Hill race in 1972, he beat a coaching colleague of mine (Malcolm Plant) into 2nd place.
Malcolm was a sub 4 minute miler who was very good friends with Ovett.
Incredible strength from Cruz
Very time fast I must say for an Olympic Final
Great photography
LA'84!
Cruz missile
Cruz won easily, running most of the race in lane 2...amazing athlete, his style reminds me a little bit of Alberto Juantorena
.. Cram beat him over 800 the year after
Loved watching Cruz and Juantorena, remarkable stride patterns
Does anyone have the long version of this BBC race? TH-cam had it for awhile, but took it down for some reason. The long version had good replays and commentary, etc.
The is the BBC version, with stalwart David Coleman commentating.
@@businessdoceurope1372 Yes, I know it's the BBC version, obviously, but they had an extended version that was up for awhile then it became unavailable.
1:20 The neck crack didn't help Ovett run faster unfortunately.
Filmed in Blurovision.
Or underwater?
Coe pulling faces means he has lost! Plenty left in the tank and not distressed at all despite hitting top speed. Cruz ran his own race and deserved the win. Beat the fastest 800m runner of all time (then) by some distance.
Coe was likely past his peak over the 800m distance... He could not repeat his performances from 1981...he had lost some basic speed. Cruz was the man of the year in 1984 over 800m... Untouchable... Cruz had potential to improve and run faster, although I suggest injuries prevented Cruz from reaching his peak of 800m.
Coe was likely past his peak over the 800m distance... He could not repeat his performances from 1981...he had lost some basic speed. Cruz was the man of the year in 1984 over 800m... Untouchable... Cruz had potential to improve and run faster, although I suggest injuries prevented Cruz from reaching his peak of 800m.
Coe was likely past his peak over the 800m distance... He could not repeat his performances from 1981...he had lost some basic speed. Cruz was the man of the year in 1984 over 800m... Untouchable... Cruz had potential to improve and run faster, although I suggest injuries prevented Cruz from reaching his peak of 800m.
Coe was likely past his peak over the 800m distance... He could not repeat his performances from 1981...he had lost some basic speed. Cruz was the man of the year in 1984 over 800m... Untouchable... Cruz had potential to improve and run faster, although I suggest injuries prevented Cruz from reaching his peak of 800m.
Coe was likely past his peak over the 800m distance... He could not repeat his performances from 1981...he had lost some basic speed. Cruz was the man of the year in 1984 over 800m... Untouchable... Cruz had potential to improve and run faster, although I suggest injuries prevented Cruz from reaching his peak of 800m.
Man they were flying from the gun.
We only miss the best juantorena the horse,the best forever
Joaquim Cruz 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Donato Sabia died of COVID-19 disease , and he wasn't even in his sixties 😥😥😥... Many other famous sportsmen flied to Heaven that way , like for example Fausto Gresini did . Gresini was a motorcycle former world champion and manager
.. Did he die of it, or with it?
@@imemine6494 of it
Coe not at 100% fitness here IMO, but still a great run by Cruz
El memo que fue tercero y una mala salida impidieron ganar a Coe.
Coe wasn’t even close to Cruz missile 🚀
Given all the illnesses and injuries that had beset him in 1982/83, it was astonishing that Coe was even at the LA Olympics, let alone that he came away with silver in the 800m and gold a few days later in the 1500m, where he became the only man to defend the title. That all says an awful lot about his quality as an athlete.
@@denisej4813Cruz pulled out of the 1500m. Coe’s overall performance was better.
A fit Coe and a fit Ovett would have devoured Cruz
Cruz foi o único que ameaçou o Recorde de SC que era 1.41,73, fazendo 1.41,77. Até hoje o tempo de Cruz é recorde Sul Americano e brasileiro.
Tive a honra de competir com ele no campeonato Brasileiro infanto juvenil, na cidade de Brasília em 1979. Corredor incrível que derrotou os melhores corredores de sua época e que por várias vezes ameaçou o recorde mundial de Sebastian Coe, nos 800 m.
@@Sanctified57 I think Coe was fully fit, in that he was (unusually for him!) free from any injuries or illness, but he built up gradually over seven races during the LA Olympics to hit his peak in the 1500m final. To do the 800m/1500m double would have been a tough ask of Coe, Cruz, Ovett or indeed anyone.
If Cruz were an American, he would end his career with 3, 4 golds, and not just 1 gold and 1 silver...
He probably would O got shot by a cop if he was American 😭😭😭
@@Gertzy41
Carl Lewis managed to bag more than a few, last time I looked he was black
Young Cruz against a tired Ovett and Coe they were burnt out
Coe won the 1500 after this!! Burnt out??
And Ovett was ill
@@carlsummers2316 Ovett performed miracles to reach two finals the state he was in. He shouldn't have run in the 1500m at all.
@@paulwilliams8389
He shouldn't have lined up for the 800m final.
However it's the Olympics and it makes people make irrational decisions
.. Cram beat cruz the next year, over 800
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winning what?
This has aged well. UK 4% down in GDP and a cost of £32 billion a year to the UK taxpayer. So much winning.
.. You think that's to do with brexit and not lockdown and Ukraine???
@@heimihenderson4543 I just want are country back #LegitimateConcerns
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