We all can agree that his friends were trash. When he was at his most vulnerable and needed support from his friends they ditched him. Like legit teenagers kill themself cuz of bullying and outtings for being gay
norlack89 I Just don’t understand people, maybe it’s because I’m an empath and literally don’t give a fuck about those things, as long as your good to me I’ll be your friend type of person. Like one of my friends came out to me , said she was in love with me and I told her I didn’t love her that way and we still saw each other and our friends I’m mean I set he up with her now girl friend and this was when I was whaat 14-15 like are people that cruel in America schools, what the fuck....... maybe it’s cause I’m from small area I dunno
@@milliesspacebunzzz1746 maybe like the peeps making the movie don't get normal high school life anymore like, yass girls are bitches and overall it's not the best experience but like people are more educated on that stuff now people don't hate gay people or juat ostracise them much anymore ....
Eh, I sort of understood it, the book sort of explained it a bit better. I didn’t like how upset Leah got about him not coming out to her first, but then again I understand why she may be hurt about it. Finding out your friend used you in order to hide their feelings and hook them up with someone they don’t wanna be with is kind of hurtful. Idk. The book was better with explaining all sides.
Uuuumm...he lied to them and tried to manipulate his friends. Instead of telling them he was being blackmailed and letting them know what was going on so they could try and help them, he went behind their backs and tried to keep Abby and Nick from being together, which would have made them happy. On top of that, he tried to manipulate Nick further and throw Nick onto Leah, someone he doesn't even like romantically. That's a REALLY crappy thing to do someone you call your friends, so yeah, they kind of have a right to be mad at him. He could have easily have told them what was happening. And don't try to claim he was afraid of them finding out he was gay. He came out to Abby WHILE he was being blackmailed and could have easily told her then. He should have trusted his friends and been honest with them. Yes, I agree they were kind of harsh, but they were hurt and angry. Like Abby said, "I'm not a piece of meat" and that's how Simon treated her and Leah.
1. I see Love Simon , I click 2. I see a good point as the title , I click .Simon deserves better friends. HE WAS BEING BLACKMAILED and they chose to be butthurt.
You're the first straight dude I've ever seen in my LIFE that didn't flinch at a gay kiss. Wow. idk man, it's the little things like that that make me rlly happy
@@urmomrry2404 it's sad that this person seems to only know mildly homophobic straight people. so much so that it's normal to see a straight person flinch at a gay kiss
as a bi person I was not blackmailed but I was outed when I wasn't ready, creating huge consiquenses and impacts for the rest of my life, so when Simons friends are 'rude' to him after he's outed, I really wanna talk some sense into them, is this just me
Well unfortunately you can't do that so you should read the book and instead feel like you wanna hug them for being literally such amazing friends, especially Abby.
Tbh, it was understandable (in the book) why Abby was upset with him. But in the book she didn’t find out about him using her to hide his secret until later. So the whole supportive coming out thing was cemented. He reason why they fought is because, wether or not it’s understandable, Simon still did a shitty thing. There’s no way around it. I can sympathize with him (I’m bi) but also I know what he did to his friend was wrong.
caitlin I mean there’s no saying how you could react in a situation if you’ve never been in it. There could be a variety of other issues going on, and this is just the thing that broke the camels back. Tbh, if my friend did this, I’d be understanding, and I’d forgive them, but I would never be able to trust them completely againz
Yeah, same, I always tear up when I watch that scene, and I've watched it like five times now. I can 100% relate, and God, it hurts. But the resolution makes me so happy!!!
Girl: I love you Me, not an American: *cries and runs off into the distance, never to be seen again because lesbians aren’t this blunt and it must be a trick*
I honestly did not like the carnival scene. The crowd should've never been there since that was supposed to be a private moment between Simon and Blue.
I don't think he minded, at least he didn't look like he did...and if he did he could've asked them to leave him alone and I'm pretty sure the crowd would've dispersed. 🤷🏻♀️
Yes! Especially because the book went further than that and landed on an ending that wasn't an ending. There was no BIG moment like that, just the set up for their lives going forward.
In the book they barely even spoke! They went on a tiltawhirl rather than a Ferris Wheel, therefore couldn’t really speak, and the most intimate they get is hand holding. Until a beautiful Oreo mush kiss!
Yeah... I would have been upset and told him off, but I would have understand after finding out that he was struggling with being gay and got outed. Them standing there and watching him get humiliated again and not check on him and they mad for a whole week!?!?! That was messed up. I would have understand if Katherine's character was still upset finding out the guy you been crushing on for years will never be interest in you takes a while to get over but the two friends at the end of the day you guys ended up together so why be mad for that long.
Abby was the only one who deserved to be angry at all for as long as the anger went on. AND the fact none of them stood up for him and they made him come to them to make ammends, shows immense growth for Simon and not any of the others.
THANK YOU! I always felt that Abby was the one who had any valid anger. I'm just ticked the scene where they gang up on him even exists. It never happened in the book
I agree Abby felt like a piece of meat when in general she’s a person and I think it felt like Simon was pinning her off that’s why she was angry while I do feel Simon could have told Abby about Martin blackmailing him because no doubt she would have helped Simon as she was more understanding and he knew her for 3 months but he chose not to although I do feel they could have said look leave Simon alone when he got picked on but 100% Abby had his back more then the other 2
He could have literally told Abby he was being blackmailed it wouldn't affect the story she was the only one he came out to even tho he knew her the shortest
I get it's not easy to come out it really isn't but she already accepted him I think it could have all been avoided if he told her because what's his face wanted to date her
You are the first reactor to say that he had (excuse the language) shitty friends. Yes, he made mistakes with them, but the scene in the cafeteria (canteen) spoke volumes. I love the fact that a teacher stopped it. However, Simon was in a bad place and none of his friends tried to see if he was ok after that. His parents staying by him was great too. I wanted Simon and "Blue" to have alone time too. Overall I enjoyed the movie. I watched it with my niece (she read the book and didn't tell me a thing) and had a conversation afterwards.
Yeah, the fact his friends didn't stand up for him when he was being humiliated in front of the entire school really showed what kind of people they were. The fact they made the whole situation about themselves too.
I love this movie so much! 98% of the LGBT movies has to do with someone dying or they don't end up together and something super sad happens. I love that this is a high school cliche AND a LGBT movie ❤️
or do forget everyone's a lying cheating arsehole - - thats a common theme too! i love that movie had one couple and they never wavered on who they wanted to be with like as in with another person
@@auroralong5437 I know right! It was an okay movie and all but the core themes they subliminally showed really sucked, the end scene was one of my least favorite, because "blue" states he doesn't want to come out yet, and Simon sits in the ferris wheel essentially forcing blue to come out, which I suppose he didn't have to do, but it just showed this idea of like, coming out isnt that bad and see how much better life will be when you do, which isn't always wrong but for many that's not how it works and then there's again the whole issue with the more "feminine" gay guy and the whole "maybe not that gay", in a movie targeted to queer people, they really shoulda thought that scene through a bit more, because the kind of message that sends is horrendous.
That's mostly in American movies, though. Try some European ones, or even one specific Brazilian one, and now I'm torn, because I won't say the title in case it might be a spoiler :/
actually his friends are different in the book, I don't know why they decided that Leah was in love with Simon in the movie when it's not like that. Anyways, amazing movie and amazing reaction! movies like this one are so important
OMG YES! One of the many things I loved about the book was that they didn't play into this trope! His drama with girls was completely unromantic (in the present tense of the story, he did have ex-girlfriends).
@@romeostruedude she doesn't want to be the prettiest. She's been in love with someone for years and then this super pretty and amazing girl shows up and he's just all over her. Also there is a little thing called character development. Leah is one of the best characters in the book, and mostly because of her flaws. Maybe you should re-read the book and actually try to understand her character because she's beautifully written.
Kaia Losch I’m currently reading Leah on the off beat and I keep getting thrown off by things such as Simon having an older sister and Abby having a present dad, I thought that was a who scene where she’s gettin a pep talk about that.
and the fact that he had to practically beg them to be friends again even though he practically was forced to betray them really pissed me off i wont say simons 100% in the right because like hes using his own problems in life to effect others but still the fact his friends took it like he betrayed them out of malice or just to be a douche really pisses me off he needs better friends frfr
yes yes yes! while it's understandable that abby was upset, there is a time and place for that. Simon was clearly struggling with everything - he had no idea how his family, mainly his father, would react, nor did he know what his friends or everyone else would do, and he was terrified. not to even mention the clear way Simon has internalized homophobia in the books. Simon needed someone to be there for him, especially after being outed in such a horrendous, embarrassing way, and the fact that his friends chose to just ignore the shit and trauma he went and was still going through wasn't okay.
Then your friends are kinda stupid my guy.. sexuality is nothing to do with empathy. This dude's straight and hates the friends. The straight people I watched this with hated the friends. It's just about being ignorant.
Coreychristo I could never Jesus Christ I myself am straight and so was the friend I watched it with but seeing his friends infuriated me. They didn’t understand shit and it made me so mad. Especially when he came back to them.
Well your friends are just stupid, like the friends in this movie. I’m straight and I found the friends in this movie to be super fucking annoying and had no right to be mad. I remember first watching it and asking myself why are you mad at Simon? You guys should be mad at that other dude for outing and blackmailing him.
I always enjoy teen coming of age movies where the parents aren’t written as one-note characters. I know they don’t usually get much screen time in these types of movies, so it can be a difficult thing to do well. Simon’s parents had a little complexity to them, which I enjoyed. This was a sweet movie. I also had a problem with his friends. I can understand them being pissed, but I think they should have been considerably more understanding of his plight. Overall though, a really good high school film. 🙂
His friends were waaaaaaay better in the book. As much as i love this movie i hated how they made that especially how Leah was in love with Simon because in the book it actually WAS her and Nick.
D. L. When I was watching the movie, it reminded me of the final scene of ‘Never Been Kissed,’ where Drew Barrymore waits on the baseball infield for her guy to show up, or not. The setup is very similar, with an ‘article’ being written that has a time to meet & everyone showing up to see if it’ll happen. It’s definitely cheesy, but I didn’t hate it, just like I didn’t hate it in ‘Never Been Kissed.’
Definitely read the book! Simon's friends are actual friends there. Abby is pissed for a short time, due to the whole Martin issue, but gets over it pretty quickly. Leah is mad, but not really at Simon. She's mostly projecting her worries that she's becoming obsolete in the friend group since Simon came out to Abby first. Again, it's resolved pretty quickly.
In the book his friends are actually really supportive and take him out to this like gay diner because they’re too young to go to gay bars It’s really sweet
I didnt like how his friends responded but I appreciate where they were trying to go with it. I just think they jumped the gun. They were trying to show that him being gay was such a small deal that they still held him responsible for lying and the poor choices he made. HOWEVER being gay in this world is still hard. And despite the fact that it should be the same as being straight, it's sadly not. They might be great friends and see it as just a part of him, and not a huge deal, but its still a hard thing in the world to be. And so the message was delivered and not felt. Im super drunk btw, so hopefully that made sense lol
@WillFanofMany Lol thanks. I had just come home after some drinks with friends and watched this and felt the need to add that in there since its a sensitive topic lol. Good thing im a writer and so that managed to still help me even in my state lmao
Yeah. Also the fact they had zero understanding of his position and made it all about them and their problems. Like, she's whining that he didn't notice she loved him, for starters that's on her for not being open about it. Secondly, welcome to the gay world. Unrequited crushes/love interests is practically a rite of passage. Then his other two friends complaining when it's really the same situation. Instead of being open with one another they just pissed around. The worse thing was that they got lied to. Simon got outed to the entire school. For some areas that can be literally life-threatening, and even in the best places it's really hard to deal with. Then when he needed them the most, when he was being embarrassed and bullied in front of everyone for a very specific reason, they did nothing. At the very least that suggests they thought he deserved to be treated like that, to experience discrimination in a really crude and humiliating way. They didn't have to forgive him or not be mad at him anymore, just stand up for him. They're really not great people. For a movie about the subject of being a gay person, it really came across as being extremely tone-death to me.
i kinda understand the friends, he was like "playing" with their lives and their happiness, but on the other hand coming out of the closet is sadly still a scary thing. and add to that being BLACKMAILED ON THAT!! Sure it must have hurt, but you gotta be understanding and make it easier for your friend.. Simon went through the hardest part of all this (the couple of days/weeks after someone tells everybody) all alone. that's shitty, that's when they should have been with him the most...
@Matty Bruno Lucas Zenere Salas which one? the original or the reply? in the original i said i kinda understand the friends of Simon, but due to Simon position i think they went too far
I loved the way that Blue came out to Simon in the book WAY more than the one in the movie. The movie one made me uncomfortable because it was so public but the book one was more private and just those two...
romeostruedude I didn’t like book Leah, but idk why you’re trying to say this isn’t realistic. It happens all the time, especially when you’re a teenager and having to deal with insecurities and body image issues...
i do recommend reading the book this is based off of"simon vs the homosapiens agenda" because while this movie is actually pretty well made, the fight with his friends goes differently in the book and (in my opinion) is better
The book was 1000% better. If I remember correctly his friends were extremely supportive and understand of his situation. Also the Ferris wheel scene at the end was a private moment without the whole school.
Literally my entire friend group was so mad about how Simon’s friends besides Abby decided that they were the ones that were the victims even though Simon was the one forcefully outed. Like. They’re horrible friends. Period. I’m not gonna soften it. That’s not what friends do. I’ve asked other people what they thought about it who watched the movie and they almost all said some variation of “well they made up for it and they realized what they did was wrong!” And my point of view was that they shouldn’t have done it to him in the first place!
you are absolutely correct and quite literally they were arseholes but give the teens benefit of the doubt. one is new to the school still, another has no excuse (the other dude, i forget his name), and the last is literally brokenhearted cause she was 1. admitted to her crush and was thought to be crushing on their bestfriend and 2. had her bestfriend and crush come out to their new friend instead of them for unknown reasons. i say they did the wrong thing to simon but as well simon did some bad himself. quite literally the dude was the only one who did smth plain wrong. sure, he was lied to abt his crush's feelings but thats reasonable to an extent
This title says it all at the end of the movie they didn't really resolve the coflict between simon and his friends, Simons friends were so rude I even forgot their names because thats how salty I am
His friends definitely should have been more understanding ESPECIALLY Abby. They abandoned him without ever really getting the full story. Surely they had a right to be upset but it took them two months to get together (they make it seem like he kept them apart for a year) and he tried to remedy everyone’s situation when he tried to get his friends together, he knew she liked someone close but he didn’t think it was him. The stress of growing up, school, family, college applications, being closeted, AND BLACKMAILED...it’s a lot and they could’ve been more understanding.
as a lesbian, i relate to simon so much and the fact that his friends only cared about themselves and didnt care that their bestfriend was going through so much more than they could imagine. simon's friends suck and real friends should never do that to a lgbtq+ friend. they should've been by his side as soon as the annoying ass boy published the e-mail LITERALLY taking him out of the closet.
I never fancied Daniel and wasn’t that big into Harry Potter to be honest very weird and odd but because I grew up with 2 brothers my family were way into the WWE so all my dreams and first crush was John Cena lol but Dan is cool couldn’t have seen anyone else play Harry
I like the fact that Simon was just this completely normal guy that you’d find in any other movie but he just happened to be gay. It made the movie feel so much more real
The scene between Simon and his mom had me in tears sobbing in the movie theater with my friends because coming out with my family was so hard because my parents aren’t homophobic but I was just so scared of them treating me differently. But THE SCENE WITH THE DAD HAD ME SOBBING SO UGLY GREAT MOVIE OMG
Thanks for being so supportive to the LGBT community! This movie was so relatable in some ways, and I totally agree about his friends being crappy. They had every right to feel exploited, but they allowed Simon to get bullied instead of call out on the person who caused it all. Also, I really should get the audiobook at some point.
FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS THAT HIS FRIENDS SUCKED. I remember watching it with my friend and she told me to calm down when I was yelling about how they sucked and I hope he gets better friends
JoannaRoadie28 -_- I suppose a lot of romance movies, teen or otherwise, tend to cram a lot into the final act. I’m thinking of the many movies I’ve seen where there’s a voiceover, telling us what happened to certain characters that they didn’t get much screen time etc.
Now go read the book, for one friends we’re way more supportive, we got another sister, way different scenes, and just overall better. Movie was good but the book was way better
Yagmi also in the book the carnival scene wasn’t a huge public thing with everyone watching him,it was just a private thing between him and blue without a crowd watching. Like I got second hand embarrassment watching the carnival scene from the movie.
I also got embarrassed. Like people I am waiting my the love of my life, can you not watch me make out with them. Ooh there was also the cute part where they skipped school to go get Oreos together, that was my favorite part
I do agree that the book was a hundred times better, but I have to say, I didn’t like Leah as much in the book as I did in the movie. She was always so jealous in pretty much every part of the book she was in, and it got to the point where it was pretty insufferable. Anything Abby did, she was always upset about. I’m glad that “Leah On The Offbeat” gave Justice to her character in the books though. It’s almost as if Becky Albertalli made her character to be more like the one in the movie than the one in the first book.
I completely agree, but I do have to say. They movie could have been worse. Most movies from book(s) adaptions are really bad at keeping the feel and character and plots of the book(s) but love Simon, while not 100 percent accurate, it was pretty close and was still really good movie.
@@mateom1691 Yeah!!! I did like Leah's character either. I haven't read Leah of the beat yet, but I never liked that fact that she got so mad and upset at Simon for not coming out to her first. Even thou it's not her choice and the fact that we find out she is bi (in Leah of the beat), so she know how hard it is to come to terms and admit something so huge and scary as coming out. And if she comes out to Any body before simon and dosen't say anything about it, then she is a huge hypocrite!! That's just my opinion, glad to at least know I am not the only person who was a fan of her character!! 👍👍
In the book this was based off, He didn’t lie to his friends to set Martin up with Abby, and Leah was in love with Nick, and they didn’t alienate him like they did in the movie. Leah gets mad that he came out to Abby first, and Abby is mad for like one chapter that she was like a bargaining chip in the blackmail but she forgives him quickly. And when he finds out Blue is Bram at the carnival it’s actually a pretty private situation.
god honestly i'm so glad someone said it. his friends were unsupportive, selfish and completely trash in the movie. i felt so bad for simon, it was hard to watch. they had no right to act that way when they had NO IDEA what he was going through. yeah, simon isn't perfect but did really he have a choice? real friends would've at LEAST bothered viewing it from simon's perspective - outted to the ENTIRE SCHOOL, BLACKMAILED, isolated and publicly humiliated? versus, what, nick and abby taking a long time to get together? that was really unfair to simon, it made me so angry. god. his friends were much better in the book, i'm still bitter about the way they treated him in the movie. ugh.
THIS IS WHAT I’VE BEEN SAYING! I rewatched the movie with my friend recently, and mentioned how I don’t like Simon’s friends. She was just like: “Ehh, they’re pretty good. I like them well enough.” NO.
I've literally been in his friend's situation before but instead of being trash and butthurt, I realised my friend actually needed my support more than I needed his validation and I stuck around and told him everything was going to be okay. I get so mad everytime because of how selfish they act when he comes out (and not even nicly, the poor kid gets shoved out)
Sean recognizes just Katherine Langford from 13 Reasons Why and Jennifer Garner as of course Elektra, but here's a random fact: Logan Miller (Martin) and Jennifer Garner both were in Matthew McConaughey's "Womanizer" from 2009, where Logan Miller played the young version of him. Also: Nick Robinson (Simon) is the kid from Jurassic World (2015), Alexandra Shipp (Abby) from X-Men: Apocalypse (2016), Jorge Lendeborg Jr. (Nick) from Bumblebee, Alita: Battle Angel etc. and Josh Duhamel (the father) is Captain Lennox from the Transformers Movies, and he was with Tony Hale (Mr. Worth) in TF5...the more you know!
If you liked love Simon watch love victor it’s the spinoff to love Simon and it has Simon in it but Not as the main character but as a character that helps the main character discover who he is
Something small that really bothered me in the shift from book to movie that you sorta touched on: In the movie Simon is gigantic and obviously stronger than Martin. He very well could have intimidated him or beaten him up (even though he probably wouldn't). In the book Martin is skinny, sure, but he towers over Simon. There is at least one scene where Simon is obviously intimidated by Martin standing over him. It should be a small thing, but it changes their dynamic a good bit.
@@hailey9509 I don't really understand the question. My point was that in the movie Simon was taller than Martin and could easily physically intimidate him. In the book Simon is small and Martin is tall. Reversing their dynamic.
When this movie came out I thought it was so dumb. I didnt even see it but I judged it anyway. That was probably my internalized homophobia. I knew I was gay. But i didnt want to be. I got outed in the fifth grade by the person I trusted the most. The whole school knew my secret and I got bullied for five years without ever telling my parents. They still dont know. I recently watched love simon and it really spoke to me.
I couldn't agree more with you about his friends. I hated them and definitely thought he forgave them too easily. That one girl knew how much he was struggling, and she couldn't empathize with him at all! Ugh....horrible friends if you ask me!
Yes Sean doing my favorite movie 🤘🏾 and I agree he did deserve better friends they didn’t take the time to ask him why he did what he did he had to tell them and when he was getting made front of in the cafeteria they just sat there 🤷🏾♀️ I understand you guys aren’t talking but you still were friends you should’ve stood up for him
Love, Simon is my favorite movie. The best non movie related thing about it is that I read the book first, and found out that the movie came out on my birthday
I watched Love Simon before I knew I was bi And now I realize why I cried when his family was so supportive I think it’s because deep down I knew, and that I know my family wouldn’t be supportive of me. And I have so many friends struggling with the same problem.
Thanks for saying it those were the most horrible so call "friends" I've seen that cafeteria scene was devastating to watch they not standing up for him 😕Make me so angry about the message you send to gay kids. Never keep such friends around. It shows how people still don't understand how coming out is serious and more important than the teen drama those trashy friends have going on.
We all can agree that his friends were trash. When he was at his most vulnerable and needed support from his friends they ditched him. Like legit teenagers kill themself cuz of bullying and outtings for being gay
norlack89 I Just don’t understand people, maybe it’s because I’m an empath and literally don’t give a fuck about those things, as long as your good to me I’ll be your friend type of person. Like one of my friends came out to me , said she was in love with me and I told her I didn’t love her that way and we still saw each other and our friends I’m mean I set he up with her now girl friend and this was when I was whaat 14-15 like are people that cruel in America schools, what the fuck....... maybe it’s cause I’m from small area I dunno
norlack89 in the book his friends were very supportive idrk why they changed it in the film
@@milliesspacebunzzz1746 maybe like the peeps making the movie don't get normal high school life anymore like, yass girls are bitches and overall it's not the best experience but like people are more educated on that stuff now people don't hate gay people or juat ostracise them much anymore ....
Eh, I sort of understood it, the book sort of explained it a bit better. I didn’t like how upset Leah got about him not coming out to her first, but then again I understand why she may be hurt about it. Finding out your friend used you in order to hide their feelings and hook them up with someone they don’t wanna be with is kind of hurtful. Idk. The book was better with explaining all sides.
Honesty Day
Well a big part of it is religion
love how we all agree that he deserved better friends
yesss
Yeah, his friends were shitty.
His friends were horrible. He deserved so much better
They were much better friends in the book but in the movie they were pretty shitty to Simon
Uuuumm...he lied to them and tried to manipulate his friends. Instead of telling them he was being blackmailed and letting them know what was going on so they could try and help them, he went behind their backs and tried to keep Abby and Nick from being together, which would have made them happy. On top of that, he tried to manipulate Nick further and throw Nick onto Leah, someone he doesn't even like romantically. That's a REALLY crappy thing to do someone you call your friends, so yeah, they kind of have a right to be mad at him. He could have easily have told them what was happening. And don't try to claim he was afraid of them finding out he was gay. He came out to Abby WHILE he was being blackmailed and could have easily told her then. He should have trusted his friends and been honest with them. Yes, I agree they were kind of harsh, but they were hurt and angry. Like Abby said, "I'm not a piece of meat" and that's how Simon treated her and Leah.
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1. I see Love Simon , I click
2. I see a good point as the title , I click .Simon deserves better friends. HE WAS BEING BLACKMAILED and they chose to be butthurt.
YES!
yes.
The books better
Abby was the only one who deserved to be angry at all for as long as the anger went on.
@Matty Bruno Lucas Zenere Salas why are you so angry?lol
the part where they say they are straight or heterosexual is just the best
I like when hes imagining college, dancing 😂
@@rmoira6HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL COLLEGE EDITION
You're the first straight dude I've ever seen in my LIFE that didn't flinch at a gay kiss. Wow. idk man, it's the little things like that that make me rlly happy
What kind of guys do you hang out with? That's kinda sad :(
that's pretty sad I guess it's normal here
Huh what do you mean guys it"s sad...? I'm just confused
@scoobydoobydoodle believe me or not when i saw the kiss i was squeling i mean it's soooo cute but i swear i'm straight
@@urmomrry2404 it's sad that this person seems to only know mildly homophobic straight people. so much so that it's normal to see a straight person flinch at a gay kiss
as a bi person I was not blackmailed but I was outed when I wasn't ready, creating huge consiquenses and impacts for the rest of my life, so when Simons friends are 'rude' to him after he's outed, I really wanna talk some sense into them, is this just me
caitlin definitely not just you. I wanted to slap some sense into his friends
Well unfortunately you can't do that so you should read the book and instead feel like you wanna hug them for being literally such amazing friends, especially Abby.
Tbh, it was understandable (in the book) why Abby was upset with him. But in the book she didn’t find out about him using her to hide his secret until later. So the whole supportive coming out thing was cemented. He reason why they fought is because, wether or not it’s understandable, Simon still did a shitty thing. There’s no way around it. I can sympathize with him (I’m bi) but also I know what he did to his friend was wrong.
@@katie5998 yeah, I get that as well, im like well it's pretty shitty but if it was my friend I would probs be annoyed but understanding
caitlin I mean there’s no saying how you could react in a situation if you’ve never been in it. There could be a variety of other issues going on, and this is just the thing that broke the camels back.
Tbh, if my friend did this, I’d be understanding, and I’d forgive them, but I would never be able to trust them completely againz
Simons talk with his mom gets me every time.
Yeah, same, I always tear up when I watch that scene, and I've watched it like five times now. I can 100% relate, and God, it hurts. But the resolution makes me so happy!!!
It was suggested by the actress! It wasn't in the original script.
me too
dude me too, + his scene with his father
Girl: I love you.
Simon: uh... thank you. *runs away*
Nothing has ever been more accurate
Girl: I love you
Me, not an American: *cries and runs off into the distance, never to be seen again because lesbians aren’t this blunt and it must be a trick*
I honestly did not like the carnival scene. The crowd should've never been there since that was supposed to be a private moment between Simon and Blue.
I don't think he minded, at least he didn't look like he did...and if he did he could've asked them to leave him alone and I'm pretty sure the crowd would've dispersed.
🤷🏻♀️
In the book it was more private
Yes! Especially because the book went further than that and landed on an ending that wasn't an ending. There was no BIG moment like that, just the set up for their lives going forward.
In the book they barely even spoke! They went on a tiltawhirl rather than a Ferris Wheel, therefore couldn’t really speak, and the most intimate they get is hand holding. Until a beautiful Oreo mush kiss!
@Matty Bruno Lucas Zenere Salas Bram Louis Greenfeld
Yeah Simon didn’t do great with the friend thing but his friends LEFT HIM when he was the saddest and felt most alone...they all literally left him..
Yeah... I would have been upset and told him off, but I would have understand after finding out that he was struggling with being gay and got outed. Them standing there and watching him get humiliated again and not check on him and they mad for a whole week!?!?! That was messed up. I would have understand if Katherine's character was still upset finding out the guy you been crushing on for years will never be interest in you takes a while to get over but the two friends at the end of the day you guys ended up together so why be mad for that long.
"Is it possible to love someone without even seeing a picture of it?"
Yes, man. Yes... it is.
Blind people do it all the time.
Abby was the only one who deserved to be angry at all for as long as the anger went on. AND the fact none of them stood up for him and they made him come to them to make ammends, shows immense growth for Simon and not any of the others.
THANK YOU! I always felt that Abby was the one who had any valid anger. I'm just ticked the scene where they gang up on him even exists. It never happened in the book
I agree Abby felt like a piece of meat when in general she’s a person and I think it felt like Simon was pinning her off that’s why she was angry while I do feel Simon could have told Abby about Martin blackmailing him because no doubt she would have helped Simon as she was more understanding and he knew her for 3 months but he chose not to although I do feel they could have said look leave Simon alone when he got picked on but 100% Abby had his back more then the other 2
Its understandable why his friends were pissed but he was literally being blackmailed.. Tf he was supposed to do?
I know, right? Do people think that he should’ve just came out? Like, it’s not that easy...
Lowfat Tacocat yea it’s not easy at all. like they treated him horribly
He could have told Abby once he came out to her.
He could have literally told Abby he was being blackmailed it wouldn't affect the story she was the only one he came out to even tho he knew her the shortest
I get it's not easy to come out it really isn't but she already accepted him I think it could have all been avoided if he told her because what's his face wanted to date her
for real he was getting blackmailed, struggling with his sexuality and didn’t know who to talk to and his “friends” made it about themselves
You are the first reactor to say that he had (excuse the language) shitty friends. Yes, he made mistakes with them, but the scene in the cafeteria (canteen) spoke volumes. I love the fact that a teacher stopped it. However, Simon was in a bad place and none of his friends tried to see if he was ok after that. His parents staying by him was great too. I wanted Simon and "Blue" to have alone time too. Overall I enjoyed the movie. I watched it with my niece (she read the book and didn't tell me a thing) and had a conversation afterwards.
You should try and read the book, all of what you said here is really done better in the book.
Yeah, the fact his friends didn't stand up for him when he was being humiliated in front of the entire school really showed what kind of people they were. The fact they made the whole situation about themselves too.
@@summanus4437 you notice in the spin off his "friends" are nowhere to be seen.
I love this movie so much! 98% of the LGBT movies has to do with someone dying or they don't end up together and something super sad happens. I love that this is a high school cliche AND a LGBT movie ❤️
or do forget everyone's a lying cheating arsehole - - thats a common theme too! i love that movie had one couple and they never wavered on who they wanted to be with like as in with another person
Or it’s just soft porn
@@auroralong5437 I know right! It was an okay movie and all but the core themes they subliminally showed really sucked, the end scene was one of my least favorite, because "blue" states he doesn't want to come out yet, and Simon sits in the ferris wheel essentially forcing blue to come out, which I suppose he didn't have to do, but it just showed this idea of like, coming out isnt that bad and see how much better life will be when you do, which isn't always wrong but for many that's not how it works and then there's again the whole issue with the more "feminine" gay guy and the whole "maybe not that gay", in a movie targeted to queer people, they really shoulda thought that scene through a bit more, because the kind of message that sends is horrendous.
That's mostly in American movies, though. Try some European ones, or even one specific Brazilian one, and now I'm torn, because I won't say the title in case it might be a spoiler :/
“Yes he did, now punch him in the face.”
actually his friends are different in the book, I don't know why they decided that Leah was in love with Simon in the movie when it's not like that. Anyways, amazing movie and amazing reaction! movies like this one are so important
OMG YES! One of the many things I loved about the book was that they didn't play into this trope! His drama with girls was completely unromantic (in the present tense of the story, he did have ex-girlfriends).
@@romeostruedude she doesn't want to be the prettiest. She's been in love with someone for years and then this super pretty and amazing girl shows up and he's just all over her. Also there is a little thing called character development. Leah is one of the best characters in the book, and mostly because of her flaws. Maybe you should re-read the book and actually try to understand her character because she's beautifully written.
eVeRytHiNg ChAnGeS iN ‘LeAh oN tHe oFfBeAt’ tHoUgH
(If you’ve read the book you’ll know what I mean)
@@romeostruedude This book was written by a woman though
Kaia Losch I’m currently reading Leah on the off beat and I keep getting thrown off by things such as Simon having an older sister and Abby having a present dad, I thought that was a who scene where she’s gettin a pep talk about that.
and the fact that he had to practically beg them to be friends again even though he practically was forced to betray them really pissed me off i wont say simons 100% in the right because like hes using his own problems in life to effect others but still the fact his friends took it like he betrayed them out of malice or just to be a douche really pisses me off he needs better friends frfr
yes yes yes! while it's understandable that abby was upset, there is a time and place for that. Simon was clearly struggling with everything - he had no idea how his family, mainly his father, would react, nor did he know what his friends or everyone else would do, and he was terrified. not to even mention the clear way Simon has internalized homophobia in the books. Simon needed someone to be there for him, especially after being outed in such a horrendous, embarrassing way, and the fact that his friends chose to just ignore the shit and trauma he went and was still going through wasn't okay.
I watched this with my straight friends and they had more empathy for the friends than they did for simon lol
Straight people (almost) never get it.
Then your friends are kinda stupid my guy.. sexuality is nothing to do with empathy. This dude's straight and hates the friends. The straight people I watched this with hated the friends. It's just about being ignorant.
ME TOO!!! wow, that can't be a coincidence, right?
Coreychristo I could never Jesus Christ I myself am straight and so was the friend I watched it with but seeing his friends infuriated me. They didn’t understand shit and it made me so mad. Especially when he came back to them.
Well your friends are just stupid, like the friends in this movie. I’m straight and I found the friends in this movie to be super fucking annoying and had no right to be mad. I remember first watching it and asking myself why are you mad at Simon? You guys should be mad at that other dude for outing and blackmailing him.
I always enjoy teen coming of age movies where the parents aren’t written as one-note characters. I know they don’t usually get much screen time in these types of movies, so it can be a difficult thing to do well. Simon’s parents had a little complexity to them, which I enjoyed. This was a sweet movie. I also had a problem with his friends. I can understand them being pissed, but I think they should have been considerably more understanding of his plight. Overall though, a really good high school film. 🙂
His friends were waaaaaaay better in the book. As much as i love this movie i hated how they made that especially how Leah was in love with Simon because in the book it actually WAS her and Nick.
Luke Willowbrook and the way him and Blue get together way better in the book
@@elsagranquist9755 yes! I hated the carnival scene in the movie. The way they ended up together in the book was much more authentic.
D. L. When I was watching the movie, it reminded me of the final scene of ‘Never Been Kissed,’ where Drew Barrymore waits on the baseball infield for her guy to show up, or not. The setup is very similar, with an ‘article’ being written that has a time to meet & everyone showing up to see if it’ll happen. It’s definitely cheesy, but I didn’t hate it, just like I didn’t hate it in ‘Never Been Kissed.’
I love the reference to who blue was from Martin
"What do you get if you mix black and jewish"
"Blueish"
Definitely read the book! Simon's friends are actual friends there. Abby is pissed for a short time, due to the whole Martin issue, but gets over it pretty quickly. Leah is mad, but not really at Simon. She's mostly projecting her worries that she's becoming obsolete in the friend group since Simon came out to Abby first. Again, it's resolved pretty quickly.
In the book his friends are actually really supportive and take him out to this like gay diner because they’re too young to go to gay bars
It’s really sweet
Geek With Glasses There’s a deleted scene where nick took him to a gay bar
I didnt like how his friends responded but I appreciate where they were trying to go with it. I just think they jumped the gun. They were trying to show that him being gay was such a small deal that they still held him responsible for lying and the poor choices he made. HOWEVER being gay in this world is still hard. And despite the fact that it should be the same as being straight, it's sadly not. They might be great friends and see it as just a part of him, and not a huge deal, but its still a hard thing in the world to be. And so the message was delivered and not felt. Im super drunk btw, so hopefully that made sense lol
@WillFanofMany Lol thanks. I had just come home after some drinks with friends and watched this and felt the need to add that in there since its a sensitive topic lol. Good thing im a writer and so that managed to still help me even in my state lmao
Yeah. Also the fact they had zero understanding of his position and made it all about them and their problems. Like, she's whining that he didn't notice she loved him, for starters that's on her for not being open about it. Secondly, welcome to the gay world. Unrequited crushes/love interests is practically a rite of passage. Then his other two friends complaining when it's really the same situation. Instead of being open with one another they just pissed around. The worse thing was that they got lied to. Simon got outed to the entire school. For some areas that can be literally life-threatening, and even in the best places it's really hard to deal with. Then when he needed them the most, when he was being embarrassed and bullied in front of everyone for a very specific reason, they did nothing. At the very least that suggests they thought he deserved to be treated like that, to experience discrimination in a really crude and humiliating way. They didn't have to forgive him or not be mad at him anymore, just stand up for him. They're really not great people.
For a movie about the subject of being a gay person, it really came across as being extremely tone-death to me.
i kinda understand the friends, he was like "playing" with their lives and their happiness, but on the other hand coming out of the closet is sadly still a scary thing. and add to that being BLACKMAILED ON THAT!! Sure it must have hurt, but you gotta be understanding and make it easier for your friend.. Simon went through the hardest part of all this (the couple of days/weeks after someone tells everybody) all alone. that's shitty, that's when they should have been with him the most...
Lonkinella especially the girl that loved him because he literally didn't know and he wanted to help her, not purposely fuck with her.
@@emran.025 i think she said he knew it wasnt that guy, and thats why it was cruel, but yeah, still..
I mean, they still have a right to be upset. It’s understandable what Simon did, but remember we’re seeing things from his POV
Matty Bruno Lucas Zenere Salas And that’s your feelings on it. But everyone’s entitled to feel a certain way despite how or how not you would react.
@Matty Bruno Lucas Zenere Salas which one? the original or the reply?
in the original i said i kinda understand the friends of Simon, but due to Simon position i think they went too far
I loved the way that Blue came out to Simon in the book WAY more than the one in the movie. The movie one made me uncomfortable because it was so public but the book one was more private and just those two...
100% agree
and the little note he left in the shirt.. their relationship was sweeter in the book imo
Agree!!!!
Agreed. The movie's version was so. damn. cringey
The movie didn’t do the friends right. They aren’t really like that
Ingvild Svendsrud I actually like Leah more in the movie than in the book, tho
Valeria Nicole Perez idk, I didn’t like that she liked him. And why do you do that? Just wondering☺️
exactly. It was confusing as f u c k when they left him. when in the book that doesn't even happen.
honestly. in the book leah is such a bitch in the book. I honestly wanted simon to not forgive her.
romeostruedude I didn’t like book Leah, but idk why you’re trying to say this isn’t realistic. It happens all the time, especially when you’re a teenager and having to deal with insecurities and body image issues...
"You watched too much harry potter" it was WAY more explicit in the books than just a recurrent dream ;)
This is the best comment by far
Its been a while but i think he also read fanfiction and i like that
Patricia S he read drarry fanfiction which is even better
@@anacamila8223 and he learned to use the washing machine to clean his socks
Henry Crotto lol that too, i was like wtf when that part came 😂
i do recommend reading the book this is based off of"simon vs the homosapiens agenda" because while this movie is actually pretty well made, the fight with his friends goes differently in the book and (in my opinion) is better
Playing with Harry's wand lol 💀
The book was 1000% better. If I remember correctly his friends were extremely supportive and understand of his situation. Also the Ferris wheel scene at the end was a private moment without the whole school.
Literally my entire friend group was so mad about how Simon’s friends besides Abby decided that they were the ones that were the victims even though Simon was the one forcefully outed. Like. They’re horrible friends. Period. I’m not gonna soften it. That’s not what friends do. I’ve asked other people what they thought about it who watched the movie and they almost all said some variation of “well they made up for it and they realized what they did was wrong!” And my point of view was that they shouldn’t have done it to him in the first place!
you are absolutely correct and quite literally they were arseholes but give the teens benefit of the doubt. one is new to the school still, another has no excuse (the other dude, i forget his name), and the last is literally brokenhearted cause she was 1. admitted to her crush and was thought to be crushing on their bestfriend and 2. had her bestfriend and crush come out to their new friend instead of them for unknown reasons. i say they did the wrong thing to simon but as well simon did some bad himself. quite literally the dude was the only one who did smth plain wrong. sure, he was lied to abt his crush's feelings but thats reasonable to an extent
More to the point, how tf did they "make up for it"? They literally did nothing but clap and say "congrats gay" *AFTER* the damage was done.
The actor who plays the character who read Simon’s emails was in Before I Fall! Loooved him in that. That movie got me in the feels
So true
This title says it all at the end of the movie they didn't really resolve the coflict between simon and his friends, Simons friends were so rude I even forgot their names because thats how salty I am
“Her name is called Katharine”😂
His friends definitely should have been more understanding ESPECIALLY Abby. They abandoned him without ever really getting the full story. Surely they had a right to be upset but it took them two months to get together (they make it seem like he kept them apart for a year) and he tried to remedy everyone’s situation when he tried to get his friends together, he knew she liked someone close but he didn’t think it was him. The stress of growing up, school, family, college applications, being closeted, AND BLACKMAILED...it’s a lot and they could’ve been more understanding.
I don't think Abby was out of pocket for being upset with Simon, there were many different ways he could've dealt with that.
seans face when blue revealed himself has me rolling 😭😭
"Just run up to your room."
Yeah... cause parents always fall for that one... 😆
Dude I’m loving the savage commentary in this man! 🤣😜
The book also talks about school segregation in Georgia, USA (which if you didn’t know, yes, it’s still very much a thing just looks different)
Yesss Love, Simon is my favourite movie of all time. The book is amazing too!! Thanks for reviewing it!!💕
When I was watching the movie I was like “Why are you mad at him??? He was literally being blackmailed he wasn’t trying to hurt you!!”
22:43 "Can you love someone without even seeing then?"
Every fangirl dies of laughter...
I agree with the title of this video😂😂
I thought I was the only one who thought of this. Like the f, he's been driving them to school everyday and all.
as a lesbian, i relate to simon so much and the fact that his friends only cared about themselves and didnt care that their bestfriend was going through so much more than they could imagine. simon's friends suck and real friends should never do that to a lgbtq+ friend. they should've been by his side as soon as the annoying ass boy published the e-mail LITERALLY taking him out of the closet.
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE! he was outed against his will n ppl are mad at HIM????
“ITS A KANYE MOMENT” 😂
I love that he is saying everything I was thinking when I first watched the movie...i was so pissed at martin
I love how protective you are of Simon with his friends. You are an awesome guy. Thank you for this reaction!
"Wait is he gay"
That's basically what the whole story's about honey XD
Who didn’t have dreams about Daniel Radcliffe
Literally my first kinda weird dream was Daniel Radcliffe in philosopher's stone when I was like 8
I never fancied Daniel and wasn’t that big into Harry Potter to be honest very weird and odd but because I grew up with 2 brothers my family were way into the WWE so all my dreams and first crush was John Cena lol but Dan is cool couldn’t have seen anyone else play Harry
I like the fact that Simon was just this completely normal guy that you’d find in any other movie but he just happened to be gay. It made the movie feel so much more real
sean: "siMOn yOU goT thE cAr tO rUN hIM oVeR iF yoU wAnT"
i'm wheezing
The scene between Simon and his mom had me in tears sobbing in the movie theater with my friends because coming out with my family was so hard because my parents aren’t homophobic but I was just so scared of them treating me differently. But THE SCENE WITH THE DAD HAD ME SOBBING SO UGLY GREAT MOVIE OMG
no matter what happened between simon and his friends, after what happened in the cafeteria they should’ve at least make sure simon was okay
My ONLY qualm with this movie was how Simon apologized but his friends never did.
Simon wasn't the one who needed to be sorry.
"he's like a sexy morpheus from matrix" okay bold of you to assume morpheus isn't already sexy
I love this movie. I love the book more. Both are great though.
You don’t understand how fast I clicked on this
Thanks for being so supportive to the LGBT community! This movie was so relatable in some ways, and I totally agree about his friends being crappy. They had every right to feel exploited, but they allowed Simon to get bullied instead of call out on the person who caused it all.
Also, I really should get the audiobook at some point.
FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS THAT HIS FRIENDS SUCKED. I remember watching it with my friend and she told me to calm down when I was yelling about how they sucked and I hope he gets better friends
Honestly if i was simons friend i would have beaten the shit out of those guys at the canteen ... just saying
Most gay people are regular people. And no, there is no dress code or they would have kicked me out the first week.
lmao im here 2 years late but sean spitting FACTS
Im so glad that you agree that he needs better friends 😂👌🏼
The friends were so much better in the books, I hated them in the movie. It didn't do them justice
Yeah, nick and leah were better but i was kind of mad at abby because she had the same response
I loved this movie but the ending felt so rushed
JoannaRoadie28 -_- It did seem like they crammed a lot of “endings” into the last ten minutes, huh?
@@susanmaggiora4800 yeah they're like 'oh they're friends again' 'look this guy is Blue' 'oh they're dating now' 'le fini'
JoannaRoadie28 -_- I suppose a lot of romance movies, teen or otherwise, tend to cram a lot into the final act. I’m thinking of the many movies I’ve seen where there’s a voiceover, telling us what happened to certain characters that they didn’t get much screen time etc.
The ending was awful, especially when the book did it really well.
@Matty Bruno Lucas Zenere Salas in my opinion it was really great
Him: I’d it just me or do they look like siblings?
Me jokingly: are you saying that because they’re bla- oh yeah
Yea he deserves better friends.
Now go read the book, for one friends we’re way more supportive, we got another sister, way different scenes, and just overall better. Movie was good but the book was way better
Yagmi also in the book the carnival scene wasn’t a huge public thing with everyone watching him,it was just a private thing between him and blue without a crowd watching. Like I got second hand embarrassment watching the carnival scene from the movie.
I also got embarrassed. Like people I am waiting my the love of my life, can you not watch me make out with them. Ooh there was also the cute part where they skipped school to go get Oreos together, that was my favorite part
I do agree that the book was a hundred times better, but I have to say, I didn’t like Leah as much in the book as I did in the movie. She was always so jealous in pretty much every part of the book she was in, and it got to the point where it was pretty insufferable. Anything Abby did, she was always upset about. I’m glad that “Leah On The Offbeat” gave Justice to her character in the books though. It’s almost as if Becky Albertalli made her character to be more like the one in the movie than the one in the first book.
I completely agree, but I do have to say. They movie could have been worse. Most movies from book(s) adaptions are really bad at keeping the feel and character and plots of the book(s) but love Simon, while not 100 percent accurate, it was pretty close and was still really good movie.
@@mateom1691 Yeah!!! I did like Leah's character either. I haven't read Leah of the beat yet, but I never liked that fact that she got so mad and upset at Simon for not coming out to her first. Even thou it's not her choice and the fact that we find out she is bi (in Leah of the beat), so she know how hard it is to come to terms and admit something so huge and scary as coming out. And if she comes out to Any body before simon and dosen't say anything about it, then she is a huge hypocrite!! That's just my opinion, glad to at least know I am not the only person who was a fan of her character!! 👍👍
In the book this was based off, He didn’t lie to his friends to set Martin up with Abby, and Leah was in love with Nick, and they didn’t alienate him like they did in the movie. Leah gets mad that he came out to Abby first, and Abby is mad for like one chapter that she was like a bargaining chip in the blackmail but she forgives him quickly. And when he finds out Blue is Bram at the carnival it’s actually a pretty private situation.
If you liked this, you should watch Moonlight!!!
Moonlight has nothing in common in this except for young homosexuals 😂
@@macloca7103 still worth watching
god honestly i'm so glad someone said it. his friends were unsupportive, selfish and completely trash in the movie. i felt so bad for simon, it was hard to watch. they had no right to act that way when they had NO IDEA what he was going through. yeah, simon isn't perfect but did really he have a choice? real friends would've at LEAST bothered viewing it from simon's perspective - outted to the ENTIRE SCHOOL, BLACKMAILED, isolated and publicly humiliated? versus, what, nick and abby taking a long time to get together? that was really unfair to simon, it made me so angry. god. his friends were much better in the book, i'm still bitter about the way they treated him in the movie. ugh.
trash friends man. idk if i could just forgive them. btw i got hell scared when the creep said he was blue.
THIS IS WHAT I’VE BEEN SAYING! I rewatched the movie with my friend recently, and mentioned how I don’t like Simon’s friends. She was just like: “Ehh, they’re pretty good. I like them well enough.”
NO.
It’s a Good movie, but the book is so much Better.
I so agree with the title of this video - he definitely deserved BETTER FRIENDS.
I've literally been in his friend's situation before but instead of being trash and butthurt, I realised my friend actually needed my support more than I needed his validation and I stuck around and told him everything was going to be okay. I get so mad everytime because of how selfish they act when he comes out (and not even nicly, the poor kid gets shoved out)
Sean recognizes just Katherine Langford from 13 Reasons Why and Jennifer Garner as of course Elektra, but here's a random fact: Logan Miller (Martin) and Jennifer Garner both were in Matthew McConaughey's "Womanizer" from 2009, where Logan Miller played the young version of him. Also: Nick Robinson (Simon) is the kid from Jurassic World (2015), Alexandra Shipp (Abby) from X-Men: Apocalypse (2016), Jorge Lendeborg Jr. (Nick) from Bumblebee, Alita: Battle Angel etc. and Josh Duhamel (the father) is Captain Lennox from the Transformers Movies, and he was with Tony Hale (Mr. Worth) in TF5...the more you know!
Exactly! I was thinking the same since the first time I watched Love, Simon.
If you liked love Simon watch love victor it’s the spinoff to love Simon and it has Simon in it but Not as the main character but as a character that helps the main character discover who he is
I agree. his friends took it to a whole other level- his right to come out when and how he wanted trumped their little issues ✌🏽
I always thought that he should've since he told them he was being black mailed but they were so selfish.
Something small that really bothered me in the shift from book to movie that you sorta touched on: In the movie Simon is gigantic and obviously stronger than Martin. He very well could have intimidated him or beaten him up (even though he probably wouldn't). In the book Martin is skinny, sure, but he towers over Simon. There is at least one scene where Simon is obviously intimidated by Martin standing over him. It should be a small thing, but it changes their dynamic a good bit.
Sorry, I know this is late except... Simon is wayyy taller then Martin in the movie?
@@hailey9509 Yes
Kaylynn Davis so why would Simon be intimidated by Martin
@@hailey9509 I don't really understand the question. My point was that in the movie Simon was taller than Martin and could easily physically intimidate him. In the book Simon is small and Martin is tall. Reversing their dynamic.
Kaylynn Davis ohhhh
When this movie came out I thought it was so dumb. I didnt even see it but I judged it anyway. That was probably my internalized homophobia. I knew I was gay. But i didnt want to be. I got outed in the fifth grade by the person I trusted the most. The whole school knew my secret and I got bullied for five years without ever telling my parents. They still dont know. I recently watched love simon and it really spoke to me.
i loved this movie so much, I saw it twice in the theaters
I couldn't agree more with you about his friends. I hated them and definitely thought he forgave them too easily. That one girl knew how much he was struggling, and she couldn't empathize with him at all! Ugh....horrible friends if you ask me!
Yes Sean doing my favorite movie 🤘🏾 and I agree he did deserve better friends they didn’t take the time to ask him why he did what he did he had to tell them and when he was getting made front of in the cafeteria they just sat there 🤷🏾♀️ I understand you guys aren’t talking but you still were friends you should’ve stood up for him
Love, Simon is my favorite movie. The best non movie related thing about it is that I read the book first, and found out that the movie came out on my birthday
I watched Love Simon before I knew I was bi
And now I realize why I cried when his family was so supportive
I think it’s because deep down I knew, and that I know my family wouldn’t be supportive of me. And I have so many friends struggling with the same problem.
Forever salty because his friends were hella supportive in the book but they changed that for the movie
I cried the whole time during the second half of the movie....and I'm straight!...
Have u seen love, victor(love, simon sequal)
Its also a coming out story but its more realistic(basically i cried TwT)
@@b14angelojohnleydctolentin37 no I haven't ......will definitely check it out! Thx😁
@@Shreya12538 no prob💖
Thanks for saying it those were the most horrible so call "friends" I've seen that cafeteria scene was devastating to watch they not standing up for him 😕Make me so angry about the message you send to gay kids. Never keep such friends around.
It shows how people still don't understand how coming out is serious and more important than the teen drama those trashy friends have going on.
Yesss i love Love, Simon and i'm so happy you reacted to it 😊
Sean, Simon’s mom is ALSO a super spy ;) in an older tv show called “Alias”
pls do 'love, victor' as well, it's a hulu show/spin off of love simon, and there are even some cameos from the movie! just came out yesterday
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