From Sin City to Los Angeles, construction starts on high-speed rail line

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  • Work is set to begin Monday on a $12 billion high-speed passenger rail line between Las Vegas and the Los Angeles area, with officials projecting millions of ticket-buyers will be boarding trains by 2028.
    KTLA 5's Chip Yost reports. (April 22, 2024)
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  • @crazybeartimba
    @crazybeartimba 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +656

    Still waiting in the LA-SF train…..

    • @jdsjstudio
      @jdsjstudio 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Thank You!!

    • @AX5Terminator
      @AX5Terminator 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +61

      Never gonna happen now with how ded SF is.

    • @mjg239
      @mjg239 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      Same. I'd move back to California if that train existed.

    • @mjg239
      @mjg239 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      The reporter talks about the LA-SF bullet train at the 4:47 mark

    • @thomaskim5008
      @thomaskim5008 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Not going to happen in your lifetime. Why built through the central valley?

  • @charkswitlazers
    @charkswitlazers 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +192

    Having your car in Vegas isn’t a good thing. You have to park it, worry about it, and you’re on the hook for fuel and maintenance. I’d rather get dropped off in Nevada and walk or use Uber once I get there.

    • @oldtwinsna8347
      @oldtwinsna8347 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      Nobody I know rents a car in Vegas anymore their entire stay unless they are staying off-strip. Just no reason to do so with the way nearly every hotel charges for parking. Add to that just a lot less stress just getting a ride share.

    • @stuwest3653
      @stuwest3653 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@oldtwinsna8347 My hotel picks me up.

    • @ricric8348
      @ricric8348 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Uber costs $$$ just from airport to strip! Same o same when train arrives

    • @slimkhalifa766
      @slimkhalifa766 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s funny, people like me and others I know worry about parking our cars in California because all the smash & grabs. *Knock on wood* that’s not too much of an issue here in LV.

    • @trvst5938
      @trvst5938 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We need a federal ride share service to incentivize good drivers. Uber and Lyft can’t insure or protect their drivers. We need to cut out the middle man. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @ArtTaggerr-223
    @ArtTaggerr-223 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +294

    Thank you Brightline.

    • @tomlarson713
      @tomlarson713 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

      Thank you Infrastructure Act from Biden too. Federal funds will be used as well.

    • @ArtTaggerr-223
      @ArtTaggerr-223 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@tomlarson713 Now how exactly did the Infrastructure act help Brightline? Did it fund the company? If I remember, wasn’t Brightline already in the progress of developed plans. They do have one in Florida already. Didn’t Trump try to pass infrastructure too, but the Democrats wanted to play politics instead?

    • @benkoch4973
      @benkoch4973 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      ⁠@@ArtTaggerr-223That bill funded 3 billion of the 12 billion total bill. Definitely helped push it forward no doubt

    • @ArtTaggerr-223
      @ArtTaggerr-223 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@benkoch4973 Definitely bucks in Brightline’s pocket, but they would’ve developed it regardless of government infrastructure funding. Thinking like that would make me wonder…if the Democrats would’ve helped Trump pass an infrastructure bill then perhaps the railway would’ve already been completed by now! Instead we have to wait 4 extra years.

    • @mrxman581
      @mrxman581 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@ArtTaggerr-223 No, that wasn't clear. Brightline was asked by reporters if the project would still move forward if they had not gotten the federal funding and they wouldn't answer the question. BLW was originally going with pure private funding, but couldn't get it.
      BTW, the public funding is closer to $5 billion.

  • @MoneySavingVideos
    @MoneySavingVideos 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    You should be forced to buy a round trip ticket so if you loose all your money in Vegas at least you have a ticket back.

  • @ilovegodzilla
    @ilovegodzilla 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +257

    They need to connect this to the gold line.

    • @rustybumperclassics6342
      @rustybumperclassics6342 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      😅

    • @MadStyle1911
      @MadStyle1911 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

      They are planning to do that... They will connect to the Metrolink at Rancho Cucamonga for commutes into L.A. etc.

    • @catwayroad9742
      @catwayroad9742 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      It's connected to Metrolink, which you can transfer to Union Station

    • @NozomuYume
      @NozomuYume 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@catwayroad9742 In a sane world they could use the same rails to get into Union Station like they do in Europe, but FRA regulation makes the tank-like American trains incompatible with the lightweight high speed trains.

    • @willypp13
      @willypp13 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The gold just makes traffic and tons of bums are in there

  • @harysuper
    @harysuper 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +81

    Amtrak used to go there on the Desert Wind and they toyed with the idea of having a Surfliner train go there. It is a shame that never happened

    • @bluebearaustin
      @bluebearaustin 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Amtrak sucks tho

    • @thekid1597
      @thekid1597 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I remember talking the Desert Wind from Union Station all the time, not sure why that stopped 🤔 it took about 7 hours to get to Vegas, still was nice 😊

    • @mrxman581
      @mrxman581 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      You can blame freight rail companies for it.

    • @mrxman581
      @mrxman581 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      ​@@bluebearaustinIt's not Amtrak. It's the freight railroad companies that own the tracks that limit passenger rail use.

    • @shaddythewiz3836
      @shaddythewiz3836 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@bluebearaustinit doesn’t suck cuz of management though it sucks cu government treats it like a business instead of necessity like roads. That’s the difference between countries like japan or countries in Europe and is why the US when it come to public transportation as a whole sucks.

  • @jakefields8018
    @jakefields8018 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +69

    if the CHSR project ever finishes, it will be such an amazing investment for California in the long run. everybody needs to stop hating this is America everything takes forever and costs a lot of money that's just how it is, think about the future ya'll have some damn HOPE!

    • @hotrail8295
      @hotrail8295 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @jakefield8018 - AMEN BRUTHA.. People hated on the Japanese Bullet Train project until it was done.. and suddenly, all the complaining vanished as people got on board.. literally.

    • @stuwest3653
      @stuwest3653 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      This country doesn't need a billion dollar train so people can gamble away their money.

    • @HA.A82
      @HA.A82 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No, not everything has to take forever. It takes forever because the funds vet laundered 100x over before they quit on it altogether. Do you know how quickly our govt acts when they want anyrhing done? Check out the spending bill the lazy losers in congress passed on a Saturday (blasphemous for any elected official to work on a sat usually). Loom how quickly SF removed the homeless the second Newsom needed it. This project will either never be complete, or it'll finish after it goes several billions dollars beyond budget. This is the bs wr live with.

    • @stuwest3653
      @stuwest3653 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@maidenthe80sla It's not designed to make a profit from ticket sales. The money they skim from the billions in federal grants is the reason it's being built. The CEO's of brightline are making close to 1 million a year in salary

    • @dunky7157
      @dunky7157 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Government is useless at anything other than wasting Tax dollars. Privatization is the only way to go. Not like The Government train will be free to al tax payers that funded it.

  • @P0w2you
    @P0w2you 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    3mi to the strip from there! man Vegas needs a subway down Los Vegas boulevard.

    • @NogoalRob
      @NogoalRob 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Elon Musk’s boring company has been given the rights to bore tunnels under Vegas and use Tesla self driving vehicles. He already completed 3 stops from the convention to 1-2 hotels. Google Vegas Loop!

  • @AmtrakDaftPunkFan
    @AmtrakDaftPunkFan 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Dude, this is finally becoming a reality.

    • @james-he7xv
      @james-he7xv 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      you will be able to use it as soon as 3022

    • @AmtrakDaftPunkFan
      @AmtrakDaftPunkFan 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@james-he7xv Nice.

  • @bombaybeach208
    @bombaybeach208 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +185

    It starts in Racho Cucamunga? Oh brother.

    • @yyan6501
      @yyan6501 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +96

      It works as a starting point. Once you have a starting line, then you can build a network based upon it. Its basically how China built its enormous high-speed rail network.

    • @diggingmystyle
      @diggingmystyle 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      @@yyan6501 that is not how China built its rail network. It starts from one major city to another major city or destination. I'm 100% certain this project will never finish despite it being only 210 miles.

    • @yyan6501
      @yyan6501 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      @@diggingmystyle It is. China's entire high speed rail network started from the Wuhan Guangzhou line which is close to the length between LA and LV.

    • @diggingmystyle
      @diggingmystyle 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @yyan6501 of course it has to start somewhere but I can assure you China never built anything without purpose. It built its network from one major city to another major city. This will connect LV with Rancho Cucamon which no one from LA would even bother with. It's a dumb project that will take decades to complete and still won't connect LA to LV. It's just another waste of tax money.

    • @scottg8660
      @scottg8660 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It doesn't work because the US has a rail speed limit.

  • @davidwright873
    @davidwright873 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +197

    That way, if you're a problem drinker AND a problem gambler, no worries! we got the cure for you!!! lol

    • @jammiebooker6489
      @jammiebooker6489 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Sponsored by gambling 😂

    • @mitchpenny225
      @mitchpenny225 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Yamava is a short drive stop it

    • @jodhmann1243
      @jodhmann1243 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Stops drinking and driving

    • @davidwright873
      @davidwright873 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jodhmann1243 promotes drinking and gambling.....It solves nothing....just rearranges the furniture...

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      MEGAbus $1 rides.

  • @elirby7131
    @elirby7131 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don't live near these areas. But I'm so excited for this. The US is finally getting high speed rail. Lets hope this expands far beyond these areas and the rest of the country. It will be super useful.

  • @MrCarlos0903
    @MrCarlos0903 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Let’s give credit to the Inland Empire - San Bernardino!!!

  • @pauldavis4287
    @pauldavis4287 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This is one of the few places in CA where high speed rail makes sense.

  • @NoOneHere2Day
    @NoOneHere2Day 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    *From Sin City to Rancho Cucamonga

  • @abc123fhdi
    @abc123fhdi 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +75

    it will be another 2 hours to drive from LA county to Rancho then another hour won't save that much time unless you live in the IE.

    • @GSM92
      @GSM92 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Rancho is 6 miles from l.a county

    • @TreeSnackz
      @TreeSnackz 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      In what world is rancho 6 miles? 😂 you mean 56 miles right ?

    • @guardianoftheduat
      @guardianoftheduat 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​@GSM92 did u hit ur head?

    • @thomaskim5008
      @thomaskim5008 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Better than struck in a traffic.

    • @watwudscoobydoo1770
      @watwudscoobydoo1770 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      That’s what a transfer to metrolink is for.

  • @handsuporillshoot381
    @handsuporillshoot381 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +141

    The city of fallen angels creating a connection line with sin city. 🔥 😈

    • @lawrencesmith835
      @lawrencesmith835 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      That's a good one because it's true.

    • @guardianoftheduat
      @guardianoftheduat 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      And if we dont sin then jesus died for nothing

    • @therighttriangle2038
      @therighttriangle2038 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      😆

    • @theonewhostandsaboveall6826
      @theonewhostandsaboveall6826 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Crazy how beautiful the bible is and it's predictions

    • @SquidCena
      @SquidCena 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@guardianoftheduat And so if people didn't rob, cops wouldn't have jobs by your awful logic. Repent, Jesus doesn't approve of your sins.

  • @MikeC2K10
    @MikeC2K10 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Train leaving on Track 5 for Anaheim, Azusa and Cuuuucamonga!!!

    • @ChrisJones-gx7fc
      @ChrisJones-gx7fc 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      My thought exactly! I so hope they reference that for westbound BLW trains. Fun fact: the streets leading to the Rancho Cucamonga station are named Anaheim Pl and Azusa Ct!

  • @geraldcoley1664
    @geraldcoley1664 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    San Bernardino is no where near Los Angeles and not in Los Angeles County. What a joke!!!

  • @January.
    @January. 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    *There ARE going to be over 500 people here....

  • @maxswaxsportscards
    @maxswaxsportscards 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +51

    The Gamblers line

    • @Mandohh323
      @Mandohh323 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      The "Go go loose all your money and come back homeless paradise" line

    • @kenmore01
      @kenmore01 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If they want to spend their bucks, here're some people other than the casinos who are willing to take it.

  • @jahzd4028
    @jahzd4028 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    What happened to the high-speed rail line from LA to San Fran that was supposed to be done by 2020?
    Oh that's right. It went $100 billion over budget and will never be completed. I wonder who's going to pocket the $12 billion from this project? 🤔

    • @ronaldhitchings1847
      @ronaldhitchings1847 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You know, follow the money.

    • @wilianrodrigues5280
      @wilianrodrigues5280 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There are legitimate concerns about a repeat of the whole LA-SAN fiasco to occur here but there’s loads to point that might not reoccur here.
      Land is much, much more cheap between the areas of LA-LV in comparison. LV is well known for its giant flashy projects that incentivize tourism and there’s no doubt in my mind Las Vegas will slam anyone who gets in the way of this one. There’s finally the Olympics which would happen soon and I feel the government would help mediate the process in the case theres a slowdown to make sure they don’t look like clowns on the international stage.

  • @jbar_85
    @jbar_85 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As someone who lives in south Florida and saw how Brightline got it done, they will get it done out west too. It’s a nice train inside and out!

  • @UpUpDnDnLtRtLtRtBAStart
    @UpUpDnDnLtRtLtRtBAStart 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +70

    Ahh this so frustrating. The location of departure that is. LA will never pull any transit hub into its center.

    • @zzygyy
      @zzygyy 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Maybe decades later we will have high speed rail to this station.. decades

    • @CaliSteve169
      @CaliSteve169 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      This train is a solution that doesn't work to a problem that doesn't exist.

    • @LINJ638
      @LINJ638 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@zzygyy Yea, delaying it for the next 1,000 years.

    • @mrxman581
      @mrxman581 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Union Station is the largest train station on the West coast and the center of transit for SoCal. It has multiple Amtrak, Metrolink, Subway, and Light Rail lines coming through it.

    • @zzygyy
      @zzygyy 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @mrxman581 yup. Metrolink will be 100% needed to make this high speed rail more accessible.

  • @joeson7700
    @joeson7700 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Amazing projects , hope it's totally Efficient & absolutely SAFE from SABOTEUR amidst the Desert landscape

  • @claytonbrown7100
    @claytonbrown7100 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    At least it’s a start.

  • @scruffy4647
    @scruffy4647 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    According to my calculations, the 200 mph train will average about 120 mph. Distance: 218 miles, time: 110 minutes. Must be a lot of curves and hills.

  • @yellowdogadventures
    @yellowdogadventures 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I love how she avoided the answer to the question about how much traffic disruption on the freeways there will be during construction

  • @dloren6183
    @dloren6183 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    If I drive from Long Beach to Rancho ... I might as well just keep going to vegas, Why not bring it closer.. even el monte.. geez.. Reminds me of the train to LAX that didn't go all the way to LAX

    • @user-cn8dn6nr6u
      @user-cn8dn6nr6u 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So you get to enjoy the snail rail / shuttle bus.

    • @erichchan3
      @erichchan3 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      It literally makes no sense to make it to El Monte or anywhere closer to the downtown LA. In a pipe dream or in Sim City sure...but imagine the additional permitting, zoning, environmental effects to build it through to the heart of LA with so many NIMBYs. The project wouldn't finish until 2060. I hope people like you and others continue driving to Vegas so that the highways remain congested.

    • @Napoleon-xp3sm
      @Napoleon-xp3sm 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Or the $3B trolley in San Diego to UCSD extension that nobody takes..

    • @goldenbear7156
      @goldenbear7156 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Napoleon-xp3sm I lived in San Diego for seven years and never tried the trolley.

  • @user-zf3xb3qx8w
    @user-zf3xb3qx8w 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Las Vegas had been a suburb of LA for decades. this is long, long overdue.

  • @pblmrt
    @pblmrt 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    50 years late but good we got alternative ways to get to Vegas and vice versa. As long this gets done unlike the CHR, this is a major boost for both LA and LV

  • @xp10199
    @xp10199 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    We need this for heavy and long distance commuter areas such as IE into LA, and Central Valley and central coast into the SF Bay Area.

  • @stephenpowers5385
    @stephenpowers5385 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Makes so much sense to do this where it is most likely to be used and probably pay for itself in the long run. Would be nice to be able to compare this with the LA to San Francisco line being built.

    • @jdos5643
      @jdos5643 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      La to Fresno to SF.

    • @sbsk2526
      @sbsk2526 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      San Francisco is losing businesses, Vegas is the hot spot where most travelers would want to go.

    • @jdos5643
      @jdos5643 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sbsk2526 that’s why they are now proposing the speed train from LA to Vegas. Smart move. Vegas isn’t just prospering from locals but also international tourism. Very smart move. It used to be that they were trying to connect LA to SF but I guess they are thinking what’s the point now. It’s only going to be a direct route for homeless to go from one place to the other.

  • @Marquitos562
    @Marquitos562 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Stay blessed beloved

    • @rawx485
      @rawx485 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Shut it

  • @eddyb3940
    @eddyb3940 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Make it happen people!!! Go California 🎉

  • @Zergcerebrates
    @Zergcerebrates 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Finally some good news, they should connect this to Ontario Airport.

  • @Dannny-Lee
    @Dannny-Lee 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This would ideally benefit both of these West Coast powerhouse metropolitan regions, but it seems like they’re cutting a very fine line with that 2028 deadline ambition.

  • @p9r4ex8dyk
    @p9r4ex8dyk 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I'll believe it when I see it.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My thoughts too!

    • @Jefff72
      @Jefff72 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They have built a line in Florida. They have the most important institution behind them... Wall Street.

  • @TheFiscallySound
    @TheFiscallySound 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    FINALLY .. They are following the success of brightline in Florida instead of the model of failure that the California high speed rail is following.

    • @gotyouout8267
      @gotyouout8267 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Florida has flat lands … California is covered in mountains … ofc Florida train is gonna be more efficiently built and cheap … California was and is trying to build through many mountains and hills in the state

  • @kri5hie
    @kri5hie 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Idc how long it takes, this is my favorite construction project in the US rn. We have been falling behind other countries for a while now in trains/public transit, and once competition for brightline comes in it’ll lead to more affordable transit not just city to suburb or city to city, but also suburb to suburb in the far future.

  • @mjg239
    @mjg239 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    *Awesome and about time!* I'm so excited for this! I'm an Angeleno (born and raised) and currently live in Europe. I use high-speed rail ALL. THE. TIME. in Europe -- Berlin to Amsterdam, Berlin to Munich, Paris to Brussels, Barcelona to Madrid. France and Spain has some of the best high speed rail in Europe. And of course, I haven't touched on the high speed rail in Japan which is on another level. I'm looking forward to this being fully realized. Love to see this going from L.A. to S.F. too. Can't wait to use these trains.

  • @roshay11
    @roshay11 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    High jacking on a highspeed train sounds like a great movie .

    • @rawx485
      @rawx485 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I read that as Hugh Jackman.... anyway, movies aside, I think this will attract terrorists activity. All they have to do is screw with the tracks somewhere....

    • @siediousswift8088
      @siediousswift8088 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Depending on how fast it is that movie would be over quick.

    • @cesarremise
      @cesarremise 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’ll be ready on time for Fast and Furious 17

  • @smartcookie3500
    @smartcookie3500 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Monorail!!

  • @JustSayinStuff
    @JustSayinStuff 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    They should’ve done this 40 years ago. It’s finally getting done.

    • @scottg8660
      @scottg8660 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's never getting done lol

  • @BajatheChickenMan
    @BajatheChickenMan 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +52

    How is it they are able to build something better than this in france for way less money?

    • @cgreedvisuals
      @cgreedvisuals 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well when crooks like newsome are involved they have to stuff their own pockets too 😂

    • @markwred-kz1iq
      @markwred-kz1iq 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      Stop asking questions you already know the answers too.
      Be a man and say it.

    • @lexburen5932
      @lexburen5932 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

      because france has better civilisation, and the people understand public transit. While americans dont. And france SNCF is the national rail operator so the rails are owned by the government, in america its all privatised. these are the reasons why france can build it quicker cost less, and it will be better.

    • @markwred-kz1iq
      @markwred-kz1iq 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lexburen5932 France ,China , Europe are decades ahead of the USA in providing for its citizens. American politicians take their paychecks and do nothing. Look at all the negative comments about improving our country. It seems like Americans want to live in caves and live like stank beasts. I'm not a fan of Russia but their subway system was beautiful.

    • @trailerhaul8200
      @trailerhaul8200 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Europe excluding Iceland is a smaller place than the US.

  • @beo456
    @beo456 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    I'll place my bets on it will be 5 years late, and 3x over the original budget.

    • @patrisio3
      @patrisio3 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      If the state gov. of California gets in the way, yes.

    • @kamsunleong6648
      @kamsunleong6648 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Get the Chinese to do it. SF mayor London Breed just came back from Shanghai and was very impressed with their HSR. The Chinese will surely complete it on time and within budget.

    • @mrxman581
      @mrxman581 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@kamsunleong6648Communist China is already having problems with their HSR network. They've lowered train frequencies and speeds on many lines. And, many lines have much lower ridership than expected.

    • @RK-bx1by
      @RK-bx1by 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Gambling already and we haven't even begun the trip to Vegas!

    • @andreirachko
      @andreirachko 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      .just like literally every single HSR project in history, except for Chinese ones which are already crumbling apart

  • @MaximoToro
    @MaximoToro 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'll believe it when I see it. I've been hearing about a high speed train since the 90s and nothing ever happens

  • @bobbysolorio1904
    @bobbysolorio1904 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It's about Time!

  • @arod605
    @arod605 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    This thing isn’t gonna be done for the next 50 years

    • @m3lgar582
      @m3lgar582 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Remind me in 5 years

    • @CatpoopTacos
      @CatpoopTacos 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      This project is done by Brightline, which is a private company. They already proved that they can complete rail in florida, so chances are they may prove doubters wrong!

    • @youonlyliveonce2556
      @youonlyliveonce2556 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      China would have it ready in 5 yrs maybe sooner

    • @ahoward5419
      @ahoward5419 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      They already have 95% of the right of way and there won't be any major utility relocations. It will almost certainly get done within 4 years at least between Hesperia and Vegas

    • @CatpoopTacos
      @CatpoopTacos 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@ahoward5419 the only sensible yt comment I’ve seen in a while. I applaud you. I hope you have a wonderful week.

  • @rdg1244
    @rdg1244 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    This will only benefit SoCal residents as for Las Vegas locals it is still cheaper to fly to Burbank 80 bucks round trip at best for a 45 min flight.

    • @thegoldstandard55
      @thegoldstandard55 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Those who currently fly between LV and LA will continue to fly. It's meant to be an alternative for those who drive.

  • @crankiefrankie1
    @crankiefrankie1 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It also shows what can happen when your remove the government and their reams of red tape and general snail pace to projects like this.

  • @lwbaum1
    @lwbaum1 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I appreciate Chip Yost's informative reporting and background details.

  • @deetorrance3659
    @deetorrance3659 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    How much will a ticket cost ? You can drive with 4 people and then have your car with you.

    • @thomaskim5008
      @thomaskim5008 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      I think it is cheaper to use the train if traveling along but more expensive if traveling a family of three or more.

    • @CaliSteve169
      @CaliSteve169 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      This train is a solution that doesn't work to a problem that doesn't exist.

    • @politicalchannel66
      @politicalchannel66 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      Then drive your car. Nothing wrong with choices

    • @dkms1234
      @dkms1234 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yep, you can go home or anywhere with your car anytime you want,( 2 hours ) I can listen to music and no need to sit next to someone that annoys you sometimes

    • @CaliSteve169
      @CaliSteve169 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@politicalchannel66 except the WEF plan is to end car ownership and have trains as the only option.

  • @Unmei_Ka
    @Unmei_Ka 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "We're gonna get new and better roads." Great so that means they're gonna destroy everything along the way to build the rail line.

  • @JohnKulin
    @JohnKulin 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "I like to thank Mr. House for making this possible." - NCR representative

  • @scott5067
    @scott5067 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    This is a train going from LV to Rancho, not LA.

    • @kasufert
      @kasufert 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      It's also not going to LV, it is going to an unincorporated area in southern Clark County.

    • @user-uj5ly1eq5n
      @user-uj5ly1eq5n 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@kasufertFr? It’s not going to go to the Las Vegas strip?

    • @kasufert
      @kasufert 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@user-uj5ly1eq5n Its not.

  • @darrenchan4594
    @darrenchan4594 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    its gonna be a nightmare driving to vegas the next couple of years.

    • @LINJ638
      @LINJ638 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yep freeloading trolls.

  • @vgshwk
    @vgshwk 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It would be nice if it went to lax for people traveling internationally.

  • @adi91216
    @adi91216 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The problem is not the train part, it's the getting to and from the stations, on both sides. Unlike in Europe, there is no public transport that connects main trains to local trains/buses/trams to take you to your actual destination in a big city.

  • @steveh5882
    @steveh5882 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    That 12 billion will balloon to 30 billion minimum, guaranteed.

    • @jaycalif8240
      @jaycalif8240 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      We just sent Ukraine over $200 BILLION DOLLARS and we'll never eveR see that money again

    • @chuckrussell-coons5866
      @chuckrussell-coons5866 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It's private investment...so who cares?

    • @drscopeify
      @drscopeify 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@jaycalif8240 Ukraine money is going to American jobs, Ukraine has no use in Dollars they have their own currency but they need Dollars to buy American made goods, weapons, anything they need which is a boost to the US economy. Keep in mind we gave the British Empire, Soviet Union and France trillions of dollars in today's money in WW2 so they could use the money to buy American goods, airplanes, tanks, trucks, food, ammo and that boosted the US economy FINALLY out o the Great Depression. Giving money to other countries is not a bad thing because they will use it to boost the US economy.

    • @antonioc9396
      @antonioc9396 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@jaycalif8240 You might not see it but US companies who create ammunitions do. Have you seen the breakdown of the aid? majority are going to US companies to replenish stocks!

    • @jaycalif8240
      @jaycalif8240 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@antonioc9396 majority of that aide might be going back to US companies and the bureaucrats that signed off on all of this. They are the ones benefiting from this. . But the American people are on the hook.

  • @JPPSrules
    @JPPSrules 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    That is the President?! She looks super young!

    • @KSWKREW
      @KSWKREW 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thicc too

    • @AP___
      @AP___ 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hoax

    • @ricric8348
      @ricric8348 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      She has to be young as this will take 40 pus years

    • @flamingoLake
      @flamingoLake 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is different from California High Speed Rail, which is publically funded and strewn out over decades. This is a privately funded hsr route by Brightline (they are still receiving some government funding though), who have already built a train route in Florida with success. I don't know if they will meet the deadline, but all of the ROW is secured, so I would expect this to be easily within 6 years and hopefully within 4.@@ricric8348

  • @kevinbergin9971
    @kevinbergin9971 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    We need a varied approach to rail service in a nation this large:
    Acela is not really going anywhere near 150 miles an hour while having to use conventional rail tracks in the Northeast.
    By contrast, a true bullet train-out in the west-where the cities are so far apart makes perfect sense.

    • @mrxman581
      @mrxman581 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They are updating and straightening out some sections of track on the NEC to improve the top speed to around 155 mph.

  • @BijanY
    @BijanY 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They need to focus on fixing the disaster we call Los Angeles first. This shouldn’t be the focus now spend the money on our highways, homeless, broken street roads etc

  • @LWRC
    @LWRC 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    The tracks will be built in the median between two lanes of interstate highway! How will the construction equipment be transported across these interstate highways so the crews can do their work!
    Traffic in both directions will be a nightmare!

    • @zzygyy
      @zzygyy 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      For 4 years correct.

    • @factchecker6674
      @factchecker6674 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The same way they built out the gold line to San Gabriel.

    • @drscopeify
      @drscopeify 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is a nothing burger they build off/on lanes for trucks and have signs about merging truck traffic. Yeah a bit of a pain but its been done all over the country when they widen highways and build new bridges so I think its just normal stuff. Some places might have under passes they can use and anyway the traffic during the work week is pretty light on the 15 more or less...

  • @user-vj3qy3rg9p
    @user-vj3qy3rg9p 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    This has to go directly to LA to work

    • @mrxman581
      @mrxman581 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      One transfer from a Metrolink train from Union Station isn't bad at all. They plan to coordinate the schedules so the transfers are short and efficient between the two systems.

    • @leewilson5389
      @leewilson5389 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      No it does not

    • @user-uj5ly1eq5n
      @user-uj5ly1eq5n 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@mrxman581even if does, it can go wrong because Metrolink has been having problems with delays when track closure occurs

    • @sbsk2526
      @sbsk2526 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mrxman581 it’s too much of a hassle, you need to pay another fare for metrolink (which is slower) to get to RC and then another fare to get to Union station to catch the Metrolink. They really need to streamline the entire traveling to make it easier/more convenient , cost efficient, & time efficient for passengers for this to work successfully.

    • @lassepeterson2740
      @lassepeterson2740 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not if they put slot machines on the train that can be played on as soon as the train has departed and does not stop anywhere else in California .

  • @damianm-nordhorn116
    @damianm-nordhorn116 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The greatest effect:
    Everyone having been passed by by the train like a 🌠 4 times in the middle of the interstate will be like what the am I doing in this car?

  • @anthonygutierrez4546
    @anthonygutierrez4546 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Using the city name
    Las Vegas, NV.; would been better description.

  • @ALWH1314
    @ALWH1314 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    This railway makes perfect sense

  • @sbsk2526
    @sbsk2526 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    How will people from LA get to Rancho Cucamonga to this train for LA people that don't want to drive to RC?

    • @CaliSteve169
      @CaliSteve169 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Exactly. It doesn't work here. Imagine driving to RC, parking your car there, taking that train on a predetermined schedule only to arrive in Vegas without having a car there. Same procedure on the way back. This is a solution that doesn't work to a problem that doesn't exist.

    • @ChrisJones-gx7fc
      @ChrisJones-gx7fc 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +53

      Metrolink’s San Bernardino Line connects RC to Union Station. That’s currently a 74-minute ride, and Metrolink plans to eventually increase frequency to half-hourly in each direction to meet every BLW train at RC.

    • @kennethmays8059
      @kennethmays8059 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Rancho's not that far from LA we can smell the stench coming from it usually.

    • @factchecker6674
      @factchecker6674 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ChrisJones-gx7fc Using Transit app to plan a trip from Westwood takes 2hrs. 45 minutes to get to RC.

    • @TerpnJohn
      @TerpnJohn 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      It’s already a mission to get to Rancho Cucamonga

  • @markfinn0
    @markfinn0 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It doesn't connect to anything in Vegas. The end if the line will be at Blue Diamond Road near I-15. That's about 3 miles south of the bottom end of the Strip, and south of the airport.

  • @xnightxamex
    @xnightxamex 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this is amazing, if this all works out EVERYONE in LA is gonna be on that train.

  • @lexburen5932
    @lexburen5932 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +65

    i like how american car brain mentality can not cope with this. 😅

    • @CaliSteve169
      @CaliSteve169 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Not cope with what? I'll still drive to Vegas.

    • @stuwest3653
      @stuwest3653 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Or the European comment from a person who has never been here.

    • @walnutproz
      @walnutproz 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Imagine being so poor you can't afford a plane ticket. Europoor salaries 😂😂😂😂

    • @mattkennedy6115
      @mattkennedy6115 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @@CaliSteve169Steve why you trolling every post? No one said you couldn’t drive sheesh dude calm tf down

    • @flamingoLake
      @flamingoLake 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      the best part is that because the train will be in the freeway median almost exclusively, you will see the train speeding by @@CaliSteve169

  • @osmanhossain676
    @osmanhossain676 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I always want California High-Speed Rail in California and Brightline West and I always love California High-Speed Rail in California and Brightline West.😮

  • @shaunshimizu4322
    @shaunshimizu4322 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    When you factor in the wait time of arriving to the station and checking in, it might make a LITTLE difference...Either way, at least it would take traffic away and make driving easier.

  • @brimmed
    @brimmed 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Is there a big train depot in Rancho Cucamonga? Or are they expecting everyone to drive out there to board this thing

    • @ChrisJones-gx7fc
      @ChrisJones-gx7fc 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Metrolink goes there from LA. The Brightline West station will be built adjacent to the existing Metrolink station, allowing a relatively easy transfer between the two. Both systems will coordinate their schedules so there'll be minimal wait time between them.

    • @scottg8660
      @scottg8660 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@ChrisJones-gx7fc and it will take just as long as driving.

    • @mrxman581
      @mrxman581 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@scottg8660It depends on what day of the week and time you drive to Vegas. If you leave LA during rush hour on a Friday, it can take a lot longer than if you leave early Saturday morning.

  • @user-wr9ez2hq2w
    @user-wr9ez2hq2w 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Again?

  • @Thrakerzog
    @Thrakerzog 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is going to cost BILLIONS of dollars and will NEVER be completed.

  • @Jefff72
    @Jefff72 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The great thing here is that it's mostly privately funded. I think St. Louis to Chicago would be another potential route and also, Canada Windsor-Toronto-Ottowa-Montreal-Quebec City.

  • @mnm2007
    @mnm2007 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    how many trains will run

    • @ScrewyDriverTheMan
      @ScrewyDriverTheMan 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ONE train an hour. Sections are so STEEP, the train can only go at around 70mph especially up and down the Cajon Pass.
      It will take around 2 hours "travel" time, but it also drops you off 3 MILES South of the Strip, and 9 MILES South of Downtown LV, so by the time you catch the taxi and get to your destination, you might as well have just driven your own car, because for most people, going door-to-door from your own house, it literally makes no difference in the overall time spent travelling between your destinations, unless you are literally only going from train station to train station and live next door to one of the train stations LMAO

    • @thomaskim5008
      @thomaskim5008 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I guess you like get stuck in the traffic. At least in the train, you can relax and take a nap or read a book or work on your laptop

    • @Sho_Ishto
      @Sho_Ishto 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ScrewyDriverTheMan depending on the cost, I’d rather nap on the train for two hours than drive my car for four hours. Especially if I’m taking the trip at night. Three and nine miles is nothing when you have Lyft and Uber. If you’re planning on driving around Nevada then it probably makes more sense to drive your own car though.

    • @pigjubby1
      @pigjubby1 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      20* (not 20 trains per day. 20 connections)

    • @ScrewyDriverTheMan
      @ScrewyDriverTheMan 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pigjubby1 No, it's literally 1 train in either direction per hour, because there are sections where the tracks are singular and not double

  • @jonimoroni7475
    @jonimoroni7475 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Between freeway lanes seems like a disaster in waiting.

    • @eggheadegghead
      @eggheadegghead 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      how a HSR train travel between the north/south bound of 5? Not sure there is enough space for a high speed train to go over 200 MPH and not affecting the cars in both directions.......

  • @medviation
    @medviation 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm from Asia. I'm glad America is finally joining the modern world.

  • @antonSugar
    @antonSugar 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Amazing. Godspeed, brightline.

  • @lawrencesmith835
    @lawrencesmith835 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    When the representative said all electric trains we are screwed period. Ask Bus Drivers that are driving all Electric bus . They hate them because they can't charge well.

    • @thomaskim5008
      @thomaskim5008 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Electric train and electric bus are different animals.

    • @m3lgar582
      @m3lgar582 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You do realize the electric trains will use pantographs just like on the Northeast corridor

  • @MartyLaVie
    @MartyLaVie 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    They really need a high speed rail from Victorville to Los Angeles. This will boost our productivity and economy.

    • @mrxman581
      @mrxman581 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The problem is that freight railroad companies own the available ROWs.

  • @1805movie
    @1805movie 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The more high speed rails the better.

  • @kittshigh
    @kittshigh 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good Connection To La Vegas To
    Los Angeles

  • @TonyC.-kq9fh
    @TonyC.-kq9fh 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    What about the traffic to Vegas while this train route is built, it is in the median but crews will definitely have to close down lanes that are now open to work on this mess.

    • @carlgemlich1657
      @carlgemlich1657 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You should probably fly.

  • @junkboxxxxxx
    @junkboxxxxxx 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    These people will make billions

  • @moicrux7112
    @moicrux7112 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Not if the tickets are 400

  • @Tony23G21
    @Tony23G21 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Perfect 🇲🇽 California Vegas Baby 🔊🔊💵🏆

  • @Because_alex
    @Because_alex 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    We need more! Do more! People need more options

  • @bobhoward6676
    @bobhoward6676 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I predict after going 10X over budget and 10 years to long and only 10 miles complete the project will be abandoned. 24B spent on homeless so far and only 100 housed in tiny villages.

    • @free_br
      @free_br 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Openly corrupt and people are sleeping. India like countries are changing and courts and people are keeping politics clean and away from corruption 😢

    • @orthrus4490
      @orthrus4490 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Also Brightline is based in Florida so a lot of commiefornias corruption shouldn't be able to interfere with the project too much

  • @wisanu99
    @wisanu99 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    There are often accidents of cars going into that ditch in the middle. God I hope they either raise the track (expensive) or have barriers at least (less safe but better than nothing). Imagine a car on track, and the high speed train collide with it. And when that high speed derail next to traffic, that will be secondary carnage.

    • @mrxman581
      @mrxman581 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah. I don't know another HSR train that is built in the middle of an existing highway like this one. And, it will only be single track for a good amount.

  • @malsimus
    @malsimus 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Gov. Newsom, Crime in California is skyrocketing, what do we do? How about a high speed rail to Vegas?

    • @gotyouout8267
      @gotyouout8267 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Crime is falling in California what are you talking about … why do other states love hating on us just becuase we’re advancing in something southern states are nowhere near of achieving

    • @gotyouout8267
      @gotyouout8267 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      People love hating on California cuz you guys are jealous … think about it Texas and Miami crime rate is barely lower than LA and California as a whole … but yet you guys like to paint us as a wasteland … becuase you’re jealous … no one brings up Texas Crime rates or Florida crime rates even though they are pretty much as much as California it’s becuase no one is jealous of Texas or Florida everyone is jealous of California …

  • @lbaker3602001
    @lbaker3602001 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    200 MPH only when the electricity is on.

    • @hello-lb3vf
      @hello-lb3vf 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      electricity is always on. you have no idea what you’re talking about

    • @Napoleon-xp3sm
      @Napoleon-xp3sm 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@hello-lb3vf So those rolling black outs were just my imagination?

    • @epiclamp44
      @epiclamp44 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Napoleon-xp3smrolling blackouts? Tf you on?

  • @zeegeejay
    @zeegeejay 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Traffic already moves so slow there, this construction is gonna slow it down even more for years to come.

    • @toiangaran
      @toiangaran 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      And then provide an alternative forever 😎

  • @djdigital3806
    @djdigital3806 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Greetings from Las Vegas.
    Now l can move back to LA!

  • @redpandaz5146
    @redpandaz5146 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Correction: One of the major reasons that CALHSR goes through the Central Valley is because it *is* by far the easiest route, unlike what the reporter claimed. A direct path between San Fransisco and Los Angeles would have to deal with mountainous terrain basically the entire way

  • @michaeldonatucci
    @michaeldonatucci 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    “We’re gonna give the tax payers $500m worth of roads for free! Gets $3 billion for the Biden administration 😂😂😂

  • @antonioflores-yr3ic
    @antonioflores-yr3ic 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Bet it's gonna be expensive

    • @thomaskim5008
      @thomaskim5008 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The similar train costs $45 weekdays one way and $450 in a month in Florida.

    • @gravanon1577
      @gravanon1577 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@thomaskim5008 This train will be about $400 to ride.

    • @thomaskim5008
      @thomaskim5008 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gravanon1577 Who told you that? The company does not know the price yet you know the price? What is the numbers for the next power lotto?

    • @gravanon1577
      @gravanon1577 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@thomaskim5008 Originally the company was saying they'd have to charge $1k per ticket to recoup their investment in 20 years. Now the buzz is they'll have tiered pricing with 1st class being $400 per round trip. So maybe coach would be something like $200-$300. In any case to offer pricing like Florida they'd have to be either be heavily subsidized or operate at a loss.

    • @CTSLRailfan
      @CTSLRailfan 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gravanon1577 aaand that exactly how brightline florida is. they are operating at a loss at the moment. it'll take a little longer for them to break even. same thing with brightline west.