n0ne literally sandbagging just playing g&w for fun, destroying everyone in his path while also being last place because of how the point giveaway works, then switching kirby and swiftly taking apart everyone in his path to claim 1st. What a god.
I think y'all should do this again but with a twist: anytime you lose, your points are completely wiped out. Sounds excessive, but it might give rise to some interesting strategies of starting with lower tiers to rack up points and then moving up the tier list to protect them. Getting wiped and then having to make a last-minute Kirby run. Waiting to dodge the possibility of being queued against another Golden Gamer. Could be pretty eventful
@@AssailantLF But they play low ranked players all the time and according to Fizzi's chart the higher rank the wider the skill range. Also we don't know how many people queued up at the same time as them (probably peak hours too).
Great content as always, liked n0nes accidental rule. Maybe if you guys do this again you give a unique character used point bonus to encourage different strats of spamming or switching it up.
I love this type of race!!!! I think there was a clear strategy here though Zeke, playing low tiers was obviously the play! If I had some ability to "spice things up" I would try to give the gamers bonus points for things like 4 stocking, ending at 69%, or shouting out GG melee or something lol.
Ok maybe this is too complicated haha… but maybe this is a potential video idea…? It’s kind of like the same as this video where they have a set amount of time to win as many times as possible with the whole cast available. These are the differences though: 1) every character starts at the same point value and 2) that value goes down the more the character is played. So let’s say a win with any character is 10 points, but after the first win that ANY of the 4 of them get, it’s only 9 points for everyone, and so on. Then it kind of becomes a race to win quickly AND forces people to use a wide variety of characters. There are also some really interesting “strats” you could do… like maybe it would be smart for Toph to start with Marth even though he might not get the most points at first just to deny Zain some of the higher values. A different variation of this (where there’s more mystery and speed isn’t as important) is just waiting to calculate any points until the end and all wins are equal (regardless of when they won) with each character giving a total of 10 points. So like, if 5 games of fox were played between all of them, then each is worth 2 points… meanwhile, if only 1 person played bowser once, then that person would get all 10 points. This is really interesting imo from a player perspective because you have no clue what anyone else is playing and so you wanna play low-tiers (like they did in this vid) but not TOO much since their value will decrease and there’s a decent chance that someone else will play them… so it kinda forces them to play a new character every game and/or try and find who they think will be the “most forgotten” character. The issue is that it might be less interesting to watch/follow who’s winning and could take a bit at the end to calculate, but you could at least track the number of total wins for each person to make it followable! Sorry for the spam haha but hopefully it made a bit of sense and might be considered :)
Next time, to spice it up, there should be an incentive to do it with multiple characters. Or like, you can only attempt each character once. So like, you better clutch up with Kirby / Bowser to get those juicy 10 points.
I loved this. Idea: same rules, but every time you use a character, its point value goes down by one until it reaches 1 point (it won’t go below one) So still, using a character like Kirby would be dope because you can get 10 points, then nine points, etc. but does encourage EVENTUALLY trying other characters 🙂
I love this idea, but the point values need to be reworked. F-tier (Bowser & Kirby) is WAY too valuable. How is a G&W win worth less than a third of a Kirby win, or a Zelda victory worth half a win with Bowser? It just didn't make sense to NOT pick Bowser or Kirby. This needs to be tinkered with, but maybe this could work: F (Bowser | Kirby) - 10 D (Zelda | Ness | Pichu | Roy | Mewtwo) - 8 C- (Mr. Game & Watch | Link | Young Link | Donkey Kong) - 7 C+ (Mario | Ganondorf) - 6 B- (Doctor Mario | Luigi) - 5 B+ (Samus | Yoshi | Pikachu | Ice Climbers) - 4 A (Peach | Captain Falcon | Sheik) - 2 S (Falco | Jigglpuff | Marth | Fox) - 1 Additionally, I like the idea of encouraging character variety, so perhaps there could be a cool-down on characters. If you just won with a character, you'll get two fewer points for picking that character (unless doing so would cause you to get zero or negative points from a win), and if that character was your second-to-last win, you get one less point. So if you wanted to max out your points-per-victory, you'd have to win with Kirby, then Bowser (or vice-versa), and then some D-tier character, before finally picking Kirby again.
Characters should “stale” in this challenge so that you’re not spamming the same kirby over and over again your third game (in a row) with a character is worth half points
how about a game of HORSE ? someone picks a character and stock count for a netplay match, if they win the others have to match them or else get a letter. last one to spell out HORSE (or w/e) is the winner.
I have a proposal. High/Top tiers = 1 point PER STOCK TAKEN, mid tiers = 2 points per stock, low tiers = 3 points per stock. Once you've used one character you can't reuse them. This means that winning close matches where you take more stocks is more valuable than trying to taunt the enemy into a ragequit and even if you grind through every character someone else can still get more points than you. It also gives you way more ways to strategise
This video makes me question why Kirby and Bowser are in the same tier. Kirby just seems like bad Jigglypuff, not complete unusable garbage like Bowser is
idt you can even compare puff to kirby because unlike puff, kirby doesnt have a gameplan or even a neutral game because his flaws are so hilariously bad compared to 95% of the cast
kirby is easier to use for people who don’t main either and this is a very specific setting of trying to most quickly one and doning randoms online, not representative of actual competitive play Kirby is more exploitable and bowser has some more tools (up b out of shield) than this shows
I like this, but here’s how I would fix it 1. You gain a bonus point for every stock above one you finish the game with (Not including DCs and rage quits) 2. You must win with 5 different characters before repeating characters.
Would be cool if they quit out or lose to someone they lose the amount of points of their opponent, would give people more reason to play a higher tier character instead of spamming kirby.
Points are severely unbalanced. Should be 1, 2, 3, 4. No way it will take these guys the same amount of time to win 1 game as kirby as it would to win 10 games with their mains.
There are three things in life that are inevitable: death, taxes and Zain fighting PP first thing in the Guardian Showdowns
N0ne going from behind to a decisive victory was exhilarating
3:57
Toph "killing" an afk Falco and claiming his points lmao
Was ACTUALLY scummy 😂
🤣 he was taking anything he could and calling 10 points for all of it
"Now ill just taunt a bunch and hope they quit." Lol, I love how Toph knows all the best strats.
n0ne literally sandbagging just playing g&w for fun, destroying everyone in his path while also being last place because of how the point giveaway works, then switching kirby and swiftly taking apart everyone in his path to claim 1st. What a god.
6:14 and 6:46 poor giorno giovanna rofl. Queues into Zain's Marth and then PPMD's Roy
perfect timestamps
I think y'all should do this again but with a twist: anytime you lose, your points are completely wiped out. Sounds excessive, but it might give rise to some interesting strategies of starting with lower tiers to rack up points and then moving up the tier list to protect them. Getting wiped and then having to make a last-minute Kirby run. Waiting to dodge the possibility of being queued against another Golden Gamer. Could be pretty eventful
Or you lose the same amount as you would have won. So as Kirby, it’s either negative 10, or positive 10. High risk high reward
@@GrymlynnSSB good idea!
This sounds awesome. please do this
The fact that at least a pair of them always meet on unranked is amazing
it isn't *so* crazy when you consider that they're all likely at the top of unranked's MMR and they all join the queue at the same time
@@AssailantLF But they play low ranked players all the time and according to Fizzi's chart the higher rank the wider the skill range. Also we don't know how many people queued up at the same time as them (probably peak hours too).
@@equinox3861 but they are also not playing long sets, they're disconnecting between every game so they're constantly in the queue
that AND also all four meeting each other in the first queue that's crazy
@@AlexRoseGames Right, but they ran into each other on the first attempt as far as I can tell.
N0ne strikes me as the guy who just enjoys being involved in these games lol
Huh funny i get the opposite feeling
@@hamzachaudhry9058 I agree lol
5:30 I have never heard someone explain it like None did here and I love it and will keep saying this for ever
3:03 Zain shield grabs 5 times in a row does not get punished and then tells zeke to not look I’m dead 💀💀💀
Best content on TH-cam. I hope this venture is actually financially viable because I absolutely love this.
Great content as always, liked n0nes accidental rule. Maybe if you guys do this again you give a unique character used point bonus to encourage different strats of spamming or switching it up.
n0ne 4-stocking people on G&W when he doesnt even play the character is unreal lol
1:58 watch the turnip!
I love this type of race!!!! I think there was a clear strategy here though Zeke, playing low tiers was obviously the play! If I had some ability to "spice things up" I would try to give the gamers bonus points for things like 4 stocking, ending at 69%, or shouting out GG melee or something lol.
This was super entertaining. They should do a version with n0ne's accidental rule implemented
Ok maybe this is too complicated haha… but maybe this is a potential video idea…?
It’s kind of like the same as this video where they have a set amount of time to win as many times as possible with the whole cast available. These are the differences though: 1) every character starts at the same point value and 2) that value goes down the more the character is played. So let’s say a win with any character is 10 points, but after the first win that ANY of the 4 of them get, it’s only 9 points for everyone, and so on. Then it kind of becomes a race to win quickly AND forces people to use a wide variety of characters. There are also some really interesting “strats” you could do… like maybe it would be smart for Toph to start with Marth even though he might not get the most points at first just to deny Zain some of the higher values.
A different variation of this (where there’s more mystery and speed isn’t as important) is just waiting to calculate any points until the end and all wins are equal (regardless of when they won) with each character giving a total of 10 points. So like, if 5 games of fox were played between all of them, then each is worth 2 points… meanwhile, if only 1 person played bowser once, then that person would get all 10 points. This is really interesting imo from a player perspective because you have no clue what anyone else is playing and so you wanna play low-tiers (like they did in this vid) but not TOO much since their value will decrease and there’s a decent chance that someone else will play them… so it kinda forces them to play a new character every game and/or try and find who they think will be the “most forgotten” character. The issue is that it might be less interesting to watch/follow who’s winning and could take a bit at the end to calculate, but you could at least track the number of total wins for each person to make it followable!
Sorry for the spam haha but hopefully it made a bit of sense and might be considered :)
2:38 Let's go Zain! (Throwing for content btw)
i had no doubt none was gonna do what he said he was gonna do. a true man of his word
Next time, to spice it up, there should be an incentive to do it with multiple characters. Or like, you can only attempt each character once. So like, you better clutch up with Kirby / Bowser to get those juicy 10 points.
I loved this.
Idea: same rules, but every time you use a character, its point value goes down by one until it reaches 1 point (it won’t go below one)
So still, using a character like Kirby would be dope because you can get 10 points, then nine points, etc. but does encourage EVENTUALLY trying other characters 🙂
Love the GG melee content.
Perhaps to incentives more variety, you could get +2 points for each unique character you choose.
ONCE AGAIN THE GOLDEN GAMERS WITH ANOTHER BANGER SHOUTOUT TO THAT ZEKE GUY HE SEEMS COOL AND FUNNY
WE LOVE THAT GUY AY PUT ER THERE!!!
Zain vs PP AND Toph vs n0ne at the same time were the very first matches of the challenge??? These men were destined to be on a team together
the n0ne slow start on ruleset -> comeback
:n0nestare:
GG get this man a second monitor! A proper stream set up should be part of the deal if he's expected to do GGs content right?? #monitorfornone hehe
It sounded like he wasn’t in his normal place at this recording
he's not at his place in this haha
I read this in Jon Benjamin's voice
I'm convinced that no matter what character plays, n0ne can't not be incredibly sick.
nonne with the comeback
I love this idea, but the point values need to be reworked. F-tier (Bowser & Kirby) is WAY too valuable. How is a G&W win worth less than a third of a Kirby win, or a Zelda victory worth half a win with Bowser? It just didn't make sense to NOT pick Bowser or Kirby.
This needs to be tinkered with, but maybe this could work:
F (Bowser | Kirby) - 10
D (Zelda | Ness | Pichu | Roy | Mewtwo) - 8
C- (Mr. Game & Watch | Link | Young Link | Donkey Kong) - 7
C+ (Mario | Ganondorf) - 6
B- (Doctor Mario | Luigi) - 5
B+ (Samus | Yoshi | Pikachu | Ice Climbers) - 4
A (Peach | Captain Falcon | Sheik) - 2
S (Falco | Jigglpuff | Marth | Fox) - 1
Additionally, I like the idea of encouraging character variety, so perhaps there could be a cool-down on characters. If you just won with a character, you'll get two fewer points for picking that character (unless doing so would cause you to get zero or negative points from a win), and if that character was your second-to-last win, you get one less point. So if you wanted to max out your points-per-victory, you'd have to win with Kirby, then Bowser (or vice-versa), and then some D-tier character, before finally picking Kirby again.
Is it really a gg melee video without pp and zain matching up on unranked??
Characters should “stale” in this challenge so that you’re not spamming the same kirby over and over again
your third game (in a row) with a character is worth half points
N0ne with the comeback 🔥
You should get 1 or 2 bonus points for the first time you win with a character, and Bowser/Kirby should probably be less than 10.
This video was made to be watched multiple times.
I like that they always play people Ive ran into on Unranked a bunch lol
It would be cool to see this challenge but you get points based on the characters you’re playing against
LETS GO ED
“Ed won” NANI
Tfw you make a format where Kirby's actually good
Great concept
also lmao ppmd an dudutsai gooning
how about a game of HORSE ? someone picks a character and stock count for a netplay match, if they win the others have to match them or else get a letter. last one to spell out HORSE (or w/e) is the winner.
YOU JUST GOT CONSULTED ON
Great content again GG!
Nice hype cancel by PP in the beginning there
Unedited version with 4person POV? 🤔
How clutch is this fkn ed guy
The lower tier characters should be worth a point or two more, and have Kirby and bowser worth like 9 points instead. To better balance things out
I have a proposal. High/Top tiers = 1 point PER STOCK TAKEN, mid tiers = 2 points per stock, low tiers = 3 points per stock. Once you've used one character you can't reuse them.
This means that winning close matches where you take more stocks is more valuable than trying to taunt the enemy into a ragequit and even if you grind through every character someone else can still get more points than you. It also gives you way more ways to strategise
hes a natural guy 🤣🤣🤣
you should not be able to quit :(
"shes not very good. now i can taunt her a bunch and maybe she'll quit on me" some people just wanna watch the world burn
This video makes me question why Kirby and Bowser are in the same tier. Kirby just seems like bad Jigglypuff, not complete unusable garbage like Bowser is
Zelda seems worse than Kirby tbh
idt you can even compare puff to kirby because unlike puff, kirby doesnt have a gameplan or even a neutral game because his flaws are so hilariously bad compared to 95% of the cast
kirby is easier to use for people who don’t main either and this is a very specific setting of trying to most quickly one and doning randoms online, not representative of actual competitive play
Kirby is more exploitable and bowser has some more tools (up b out of shield) than this shows
Dudutsai goated
FOX, MARTH... PURIN?
I like this, but here’s how I would fix it
1. You gain a bonus point for every stock above one you finish the game with (Not including DCs and rage quits)
2. You must win with 5 different characters before repeating characters.
None made the impossible comeback. Mans had to win so many games lmao
I started watching this 45 minutes after it was released 😳
Still think they need a rule change for quit-outs. I mean come on, 10 points for Toph having someone AFK and then attempt a single upB to ragequit?
G&W should definitely be worth 5.
Would be cool if they quit out or lose to someone they lose the amount of points of their opponent, would give people more reason to play a higher tier character instead of spamming kirby.
Nice content, low tier weight so much lmao
Next one with nones rules 😇
Points are severely unbalanced. Should be 1, 2, 3, 4. No way it will take these guys the same amount of time to win 1 game as kirby as it would to win 10 games with their mains.
10 points is too much higher than the rest
This was really fun! I think Kirby should be 8 or 7 points though
If you lose, you should have your character’s point value deducted
Toph gets an afk falco, cheeses him and yells for points because it should count. That was a bitch move.
4th
first
This one was boring