This is why the internet shouldn't be allowed for everyone. It sounds like someone escaped from the mental institution and decided to make a video on Holden and Fords
Absolute truth dude, genuinely convinced that the Barra is one of the best motors ever made. Thing can run on LPG, fucken basically barbecue propane, with minimal conversion work, survive til the heat death of the universe and still outlap anything on the road. Should prob make a video just focusing on the Barra in the future honestly, love ya stuff bloke
Just before I got my L's when I was 15, my parents had a spare 1997 fairmont but it had some fuel related issues and wouldn't start. The idea was to get it running so I could use it to get my Ps but needed to prove to my parents it was a fuel issue and not something else. So I literally grabbed the gas tank from the bbq, and shoved some vinyl tubing from my mum's fishtank into the intake manifold via one of the vacuum lines all duct taped together. I had to adjust the flow rate of the LPG to get the right air/fuel ratio but the engine just started right up and sustained an idle. Of course moving the throttle flap stopped the engine unless I also turned the valve on the bbq tank bottle with the other hand to maintain the fuel/air ratio. At that point my parents believed me, in that it was indeed a fuel related issue but we ended up selling the car anyway.
@@BoomBrush Lmfao cunt that was the funniest story, and I genuinely believe it too. Any Aus manufactured Ford I6 can take LPG, which has like near zero water in it and fucks any unprepared engine hard because of it. Absolutely proves my point
Taking the mick out of the commo here, got a good laugh out of it. Moreso since i have a VEII SSV Ute myself. Been around a good few falcons, when my dad owned XF's to EB's from the mid 2000's to early 2010's. All cheapo, all under a grand & most were LPG as well, so they were cheap to run. Though the last one he bought, was an NAII Fairlane Ghia from $1000, ended up flogging of to a bloke for $400 or so in the end, still a nice one that was. The intech, followed up by the legendary Barra Six. What some have called the australian 2JZ even, a great motor for sure. And not matter what, the age old battle of the Falcon vs. the Commodore will keep going, a good bit of harmless fun it is. Though i'll say, the falcon died with dignity, whereas the commodore became the eurodore, and was the total opposite
The worst part about the demise of Holden in Australia and the decline of commodores is that you don't automatically know where the fuckwits are on the road anymore... They could be in anything now.
As a bogan who has owned both, you’ve got it wrong. Let me address each of your points and why your missing some subtle advantages of the Crappydo… er.. Commodore: 1. Every time someone buys a commodore, they contribute $100 more to the economy to save used car dealer unemployment and provide that little more stamp duty to their state. People who buy falcons are duping tax avoiders. 2. No No No No.. Holden wasn’t dumping Aussie engines - perish the thought.. In fact, as Australia is a wealthy country and America were so poor at the time, Holden and it’s buying bogan public extended the hand of friendly charity to our American compatriots. A friends father was an engineer at GMH at the time, and he nostalgically looks back at changing the rocker cover to say Holden.. a real piece of art. And those Ford engines were, well… noisy and loud.. even too much for Bogan Holden owners. 3. Again.. you have it wrong.. that relative lack of durability was a design feature to keep people buying more and making the whole economy more durable. And what self-respecting bogan needs more than a 2-keg carrying capcity, anyway. The Falcon was just a waste of carrying capacity. 4. That wasn’t a Falcon burning off a commodore with more power.. the banana in the diff gave it a better spin ratio or whatever that ratio is called. 5. Jim Bean v., Meth Bogans? Shows that the Commodore drivers have far more luxuriously expensive tastes - and even helps the black market economy - win/win. 6. Looks.. beauty is in the eye of the bogan… 7. Oh, what about Found on Rubbish Dump/Failed on Race Day.. You just picked an outlier case. I will have you know my VS commodore only needed a new reverse gear, diff, and ignition harness in its first 10 years of travel. Some of it was even after it clocked 140,000 kms. 😅
Hahaha actually done the same in my ve commodore with no oil and coolant only noticed cause it was struggling to change gears she still running a beaut
Love both, & here's how I see it: Holden Commodore: Australian Dodge Charger Hellcat Ford Falcon with a Barra engine: Australian Nissan Skyline R34 GTR with an RB engine
It's safe to say the VF commo was the (mostly) nicer car (interior and dynamics wise compared to the fgx, but the Falcon had the engine department far, far better than Holden. If only we got fords engine and looks into the commos interior and tuning.
@@jacobhaussmann90 yeah, it's an American design owned by GM. But it was still manufactured in Australia. So while it's a foreign product they still made them from scratch at the GM plant in Melbourne from 2003 to 2016 and exported them globally. Infact, most of them were exported. With only about 700,000 going to Aussie cars for the production run of the VE and VF V6 models.
Bloody oath mate. Commodore babies will see a Barra getting a oil change and respond with "Should have got a commodore" while their Rattle Tech motor is literally on fire.
@@ryanlequesne8992 "guys I'm doing alright on my third timing chain after 55000" the fact that's a flex for a commodore retard tells you all you need to know. Tired of chopping vys, vzs and vts on backroads with my AU
@@j4y167 already sound offended by a joke considering it’s done 300,000kms and this timing chains done 55. Your full of shit saying you chop SV6’s with an au xr6
@@ryanlequesne8992 not even an xr6 lmao a forte, on backroads follow races yeah cus commodore drivers are dogshit. I've chopped Commodores on the backroads in a goddamn ek civic. Noone respects you lot at meets or races for a reason
BA’s have their little knacks, door actuators, oil pump gears, brake hoses… but the motor is bulletproof. Had my BA for a few months now and only done the actuators😉
@@bossdog1480 already a step ahead of you my friend. Whole front end was done before I bought the car. Diff bushes are still in good nick as well. Shifts good, drives good, no clunks and tracks perfectly straight. Very happy.
Yorak, your one of the best youtubers that I know but is unforgiving act calling a Ford better than a Holden is unforgivable Still love your channel :)
i had an AU. drove to melbourne and back several times. once to cairns as well. the only thing that went wrong was one of the coil packs went. cheap fix. the au is ugly but tougher than the toughest old boots. the straight six is fairly powerful as well and has good torque. you can take an au just about anywhere. dont know much about commodores, had one, but it got stolen 3 weeks after i bought it and never saw it again...falcon straight six is superior to buick v6.
We bought a VX Commodore from a government auction. A base model ex NSW health Service, 45,000 km. It was nice enough to drive but it spent a lot of time at the Holden dealer being repaired. Things would just fail. after 305,000km we retired it as there were burned out valves in the V6 engine. At the same time roughly, my Father bought an ex National Bank company 2001 Ford Falcon SR 6 cyl. from Hansaker Ford in Narromine. It was a 2 yrld car with warranty. 289,000 km later, its still with us. Apart from a service by Ford every 10,000,km, its only had its exhaust, radiator, hoses, 1 window motor, brakes, ball joints replaced. Amazingly reliable and trouble free.
@@yorakhunt69 yes they do but they where the Windsor's last stand against the Holden gen 3 before the went to the Boss engine in the BA. If you think they chewed fuel alot wait till you drive an AU T series with the 250kw stroker engine. They went like shit off a shovel but drank fuel like George best.
Absolutely love falcons. I wish I never sold my heritage green EF XR8 (in my profile picture). It was a bit slow by today’s standards but sounded sooo good and I never had any trouble cruising freeways for endless hours, posing in car meets, smoking it up at the lights and hanging the arse out in the twisty bits.
My SS VU Ute has 382,885, 1 timing chain and does not burn oil. It leaves long marks on the road and is quick. Quicker than a stock barra, but not as quick as a turbo barra though I can hang with it till around 120.
You have obviously never driven Australia’s best handling car…. The AU Falcon. There’s reason people don’t drift commodores. In all seriousness, drive an AU handles heaps better than an Bseries or FG Falcon.
As an American, I can clearly see that these cars were very American, especially the Falcon which was from an American brand. Furthermore, both the Falcon and Commodore had sedan, station wagon and pickup variants. It looks like for the former, the Crown Vic, Country Squire and Ranchero survived longer in Australia and for the former, it’s the Impala, Caprice Wagon and El Camino that lived on. For American cars with multiple body styles for the same model, they were common in the 1960s but almost extinct by the 2000s. Australia really did keep classic American cars alive up until 2017.
Most reliable Ford Ive ever owned is made my Mazda... Holdens send me broke & always end up injured working on Fords, but until I got stuck with the Festi' Trio, the most reliable I ever had was a VF Slant6 ute with three on the tree! From 15mph to off the clock all in top, tow home a mates cattle truck, collecting railway sleepers or chasing pork-chops AND get ya home with just enough fuel to not start tomorrow... That thing did it all, except the meter-full causeway at 70mile an hour, yet still got us 25k to town @ full noise before it pinched up! :v Anyway, cheers & congrats, going through on a binge again... ;)
As a ford man : some Falcons were better some were not . I did own a VF SS a VE SV6 & a VN. VF best Holden ever . FG Falcon was great : steered and handled better than all the Holdens . Brakes were not up to standard . ZF transmission was very good .
It's odd coming back to these early videos. You were clearly not yet the icon of all things AU that you have become today. But I'd still have bought you a frosty mid strength beer even back then
Short & sweet! Factually very accurate, 1 nite I left me VN outside in rain cause too drunk to get into garage next day only 4 alloys, tyres & a humugus pile of red s*it left on driveway. Rust mark still there to this day, never did that again.
I6 is and always was better than V simply on harmonics and balance, in 6'es, the falcon wins hands down, different story when you come to 8's tho (but if you can afford an 8 you can afford a decent car, like a toyota)
I'd take a equally worked 302 over an equally worked 5L. I've got some money in an EF Fairmont which now has a cammed 306 and there is only satisfaction.
all facts here.. my AU2 mechanic said gear box needed overhaul for 6 consecutive years- never did it- and she never needed it... 22 years of pure motoring bliss.. horrible on fuel - never realised this because speedo and fuel gage never worked properly but my new 2001 camry 2.2l 4cly gets like 600km to the tank easy its mind blowing
Personally, I'm a Holden person. I feel like most of their cars are more luxury in my mind, and have a good backstory (old cars) My dad made a nickname for Ford, which is found on rubbish dump or first on rubbish dump. I don't think fords are bad, but I prefer Holdens.
One of the best most reliable US Ford engines was and still is the 4.6 litre V8. It was Mazda derived from their very successful 2.3 litre 4 cylinder engine. Ford have an interest Mazda. It was siamesed joined into a 4.6 V8. They call it a Coyote 4.6 but it was around in Taxis, Police cars Pickups and everything in between before the 5 Litre Coyote even came along or was even heard of. This engine was in one of the most reliable Police cars of all time the Ford Victoria. Ford Australia used quite a few off the shelf components from this car for the AU Falcon onwards including power steering and air bag components which proved a Godsend because no Australia manufactured Falcon ever suffered from the Takata air bag saga as GM Toyota BMW VW did, as well some other high end brands that are still to this day trying to sort. The US Ford 4.6 litre and Coyote 5 litre V8 engines can be powerful and reliable engines but to hop them even just a little in most US States takes $$$ and then the end result can be an unreliable engine in which to maintain the power starts to cost mega $$$. This is where the Barra i6 shines and the performance fraternity in the US are just starting to realise this.The performance cost per dollar of the Aussie i6 Barra Turbo engine even for just a little more street power is now a legend. There are many many reasons why Ford Australia never exported the i6 engine to the US and shut up shop in 2016. One of those reasons was that the Barra i6 was never going to make Euro 4 or 5 emissions without direct injection technology. Way too much investment the US Parent Company wanted to become involved in coupled with the fact that everyone wanted to drive a 4X4 or SUV in a declining and limited market. I think for that we should be thankful for the great era we had up until 2016 and enjoy every minute of our wonderful Ford Barras. I am 76 and in 2003 I bought a new Pearl Blue Ford Fairmont i6 non Turbo. It has been King springed, fully nolathaned, extra well maintained, so with 550.000kms and 20 years later its puppy love. Running FG Series l XR6 17 in wheels in original alloy silver she looks a million dollars. Better than the first day l laid my eyes on her on the showroom floor. Whats left of my family may very well have to bury me in this car.
From a Ford family, but would take a Holden commodore any day before buying an import. We should have kept manufacturing Ford, Holdens and Chryslers. Stop or slow down imports to 20%. Who cares if it costs more, it’s better for the Country. Parts for the next 50 years after each model. No new models allowed for ten years at a time. Better overall for all Australians. Simplicity and affordability trump fancy expensive gimmicks hands down.
For ages, the Commodore was the least Australian made car with around 50% local made content, which was less than the Magna and Camry/Aurion... and much less than the Falcon at 90%+. But Holden bogans would say there isn't Holden in other countries (except NZ), so somehow therefore _more 'strayin._
I like the falcon better because the barra with its overhead cams and turbocharging appeals more to my predominantly European tastes than the LS does. Also you want what you can't have.
Hey so I'm a fan of your channel but I've been looking for a car an extremely reliable one I can't sacrifice the reliability but I can choose between all the ford falcon and the Holden cars since they aren't in my country , especially with minimal information on these I can't know the best one between the v8s or just the bearers. I'm in Africa Kenya and Even though I'm looking for a lasting car because for me I definitely don't want to sacrifice longevity even though the bearers or the v8s still have good performance I don't want to sacrifice reliability since I'm in Africa and the conditions are somewhat similar to Australia where the land cruiser dominates but I'm not into the SUVs since I'm young so if you could really help I'll be glad . Ooh and the mods I'll be running are maybe the suspension mods wheels breaks and maybe stuff to support the turbo to make it more reliable , and out of these if there is a wagon in there I would not mind
Fucking hell, them be fighting words mate My VX commodore got rear ended like 5 times by some crack junkie, who then tried pitting me at 140kph last week Only damage is some crumpling in the rear end and smashed tail lights Recovering from a pit maneuver at 140kph on Salisbury highway (an absolute goat track) is something thats only possible with the superior handling of a commodore Eventually my balls dropped and i really stuck the foot into it and left mr crackhead in the dust (legendary ecotec did some fine work there) Cant beat the indestructibility of a commodore
I suppose they are kinda similar, although I'd say the falcon if far superior if for no other reason than the option for a factory manual transmission. That and I like straight 6s more than v8s
I don't know... My ex's Commodore Executive could tow a fully loaded horse float quite easily, while only stretching the frame a few millimeters over 10 years. Only downside was going up steep inclines with the future dog food in tow required the air-con to be off.
Well I never did not doubt that weren't a non, anti - Holden fan. Fact:- Holden's are more gooder. Do ya know wot I mean? Who won more Bathursts? Never misunderestimate Holden's.........they were the betterest.
As an American who is really interested in Aussie cars, this has taught me everything I’ll ever need to know, thank you.
😂😂 glad it was informative
Dude, that's video feels like it was made by an edgy 12 yr old.
This is why the internet shouldn't be allowed for everyone. It sounds like someone escaped from the mental institution and decided to make a video on Holden and Fords
@@Nathan-ry3yu on the contrary, that is exactly why the Internet should be available to everyone
As an Australian dodges suck so as fords and Holden’s rule😂😂😂😂
Holden Always did the better 8 but Ford did the better 6
110%
Whilst it may not apply to this video,
Ford Cleveland was virtually unmatched.
Amen
The 335kw Miami was more than a match for the LS
Only when the LS was introduced but before that the clevo was unmatched.
Absolute truth dude, genuinely convinced that the Barra is one of the best motors ever made. Thing can run on LPG, fucken basically barbecue propane, with minimal conversion work, survive til the heat death of the universe and still outlap anything on the road.
Should prob make a video just focusing on the Barra in the future honestly, love ya stuff bloke
Yeah it’s a great all rounder no wonder all the Americans are buying them all up and shipping them over
Just before I got my L's when I was 15, my parents had a spare 1997 fairmont but it had some fuel related issues and wouldn't start. The idea was to get it running so I could use it to get my Ps but needed to prove to my parents it was a fuel issue and not something else. So I literally grabbed the gas tank from the bbq, and shoved some vinyl tubing from my mum's fishtank into the intake manifold via one of the vacuum lines all duct taped together. I had to adjust the flow rate of the LPG to get the right air/fuel ratio but the engine just started right up and sustained an idle.
Of course moving the throttle flap stopped the engine unless I also turned the valve on the bbq tank bottle with the other hand to maintain the fuel/air ratio. At that point my parents believed me, in that it was indeed a fuel related issue but we ended up selling the car anyway.
@@BoomBrush Lmfao cunt that was the funniest story, and I genuinely believe it too. Any Aus manufactured Ford I6 can take LPG, which has like near zero water in it and fucks any unprepared engine hard because of it. Absolutely proves my point
@@BoomBrush You bet when the apocalyse comes I'll be there with me Mum's Ford Territory and a bbq cylinder cunt. I'm chroming up
But the Green Top cannot be boosted. It will blow up as it is made solely for LPG.
Taking the mick out of the commo here, got a good laugh out of it. Moreso since i have a VEII SSV Ute myself. Been around a good few falcons, when my dad owned XF's to EB's from the mid 2000's to early 2010's. All cheapo, all under a grand & most were LPG as well, so they were cheap to run. Though the last one he bought, was an NAII Fairlane Ghia from $1000, ended up flogging of to a bloke for $400 or so in the end, still a nice one that was. The intech, followed up by the legendary Barra Six. What some have called the australian 2JZ even, a great motor for sure. And not matter what, the age old battle of the Falcon vs. the Commodore will keep going, a good bit of harmless fun it is. Though i'll say, the falcon died with dignity, whereas the commodore became the eurodore, and was the total opposite
I’m a fan of both, glad to see you got a laugh out of it a lot of people in the comments think I’m dead serious 😂
The worst part about the demise of Holden in Australia and the decline of commodores is that you don't automatically know where the fuckwits are on the road anymore... They could be in anything now.
GOSPEL FUCKING TRUTH MATE! 🤣👌
As a bogan who has owned both, you’ve got it wrong. Let me address each of your points and why your missing some subtle advantages of the Crappydo… er.. Commodore:
1. Every time someone buys a commodore, they contribute $100 more to the economy to save used car dealer unemployment and provide that little more stamp duty to their state. People who buy falcons are duping tax avoiders.
2. No No No No.. Holden wasn’t dumping Aussie engines - perish the thought.. In fact, as Australia is a wealthy country and America were so poor at the time, Holden and it’s buying bogan public extended the hand of friendly charity to our American compatriots. A friends father was an engineer at GMH at the time, and he nostalgically looks back at changing the rocker cover to say Holden.. a real piece of art. And those Ford engines were, well… noisy and loud.. even too much for Bogan Holden owners.
3. Again.. you have it wrong.. that relative lack of durability was a design feature to keep people buying more and making the whole economy more durable. And what self-respecting bogan needs more than a 2-keg carrying capcity, anyway. The Falcon was just a waste of carrying capacity.
4. That wasn’t a Falcon burning off a commodore with more power.. the banana in the diff gave it a better spin ratio or whatever that ratio is called.
5. Jim Bean v., Meth Bogans? Shows that the Commodore drivers have far more luxuriously expensive tastes - and even helps the black market economy - win/win.
6. Looks.. beauty is in the eye of the bogan…
7. Oh, what about Found on Rubbish Dump/Failed on Race Day.. You just picked an outlier case. I will have you know my VS commodore only needed a new reverse gear, diff, and ignition harness in its first 10 years of travel. Some of it was even after it clocked 140,000 kms.
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😂😂😂
@@yorakhunt69 Reuest for Next Viedo - Escort v Torana
helps with land fill as the VT-VZ are a dime a dozen buy 1 get one free ugly front ugly rears then you get the VP takes it to another level
@@russelblackwell6041aye aye aye My Vp lexcen is not ugly with over 500thousand K’s on the clock was an old bus running car now I’m restoring it
This is exactly why I driver Ford Falcoon, and you forgot to mention that the ladies love, men in Falcons.
Star Wars reference?
drove around in my au for god know how long with no coolant. still ran good
I did the same one but with no oil, only realised then it started to lifter tick
Hahaha actually done the same in my ve commodore with no oil and coolant only noticed cause it was struggling to change gears she still running a beaut
This is the greatest Australian video on TH-cam.
I haven't stopped laughing 🤣🤣🤣
Love both, & here's how I see it:
Holden Commodore: Australian Dodge Charger Hellcat
Ford Falcon with a Barra engine: Australian Nissan Skyline R34 GTR with an RB engine
I prefer Holden and Ford both. Such great history and rivalry over the past however many years.
You clearly don't know what prefer means moron
It's safe to say the VF commo was the (mostly) nicer car (interior and dynamics wise compared to the fgx, but the Falcon had the engine department far, far better than Holden.
If only we got fords engine and looks into the commos interior and tuning.
commodores and falcons have their own pros. I like both.
To be hair the HFV6 (AKA the Alloytec) was actually made in Australia and exported globally until the end of GM in Australia.
The alloytec is American it was used in a few different vehicles over their
@@jacobhaussmann90 yeah, it's an American design owned by GM. But it was still manufactured in Australia.
So while it's a foreign product they still made them from scratch at the GM plant in Melbourne from 2003 to 2016 and exported them globally. Infact, most of them were exported. With only about 700,000 going to Aussie cars for the production run of the VE and VF V6 models.
Bloody oath mate. Commodore babies will see a Barra getting a oil change and respond with "Should have got a commodore" while their Rattle Tech motor is literally on fire.
They’ll blow a timing chain doing a pull onto the freeway
@@yorakhunt69 still going 55,000ks strong on the 3rd chain, but a ba XR6 doesn’t keep up with a VZ SV6
@@ryanlequesne8992 "guys I'm doing alright on my third timing chain after 55000" the fact that's a flex for a commodore retard tells you all you need to know. Tired of chopping vys, vzs and vts on backroads with my AU
@@j4y167 already sound offended by a joke considering it’s done 300,000kms and this timing chains done 55. Your full of shit saying you chop SV6’s with an au xr6
@@ryanlequesne8992 not even an xr6 lmao a forte, on backroads follow races yeah cus commodore drivers are dogshit. I've chopped Commodores on the backroads in a goddamn ek civic. Noone respects you lot at meets or races for a reason
I pretty much agree with you.
However, my BA Falcon, well, I've NEVER had to do SO much maintenance on any of the other 40 plus cars I've owned...
Get a 97 -02 Camry as your second car to offset it!
BA’s have their little knacks, door actuators, oil pump gears, brake hoses… but the motor is bulletproof. Had my BA for a few months now and only done the actuators😉
@@teejay6342 Keep a supply of them, they'll need doing again. Along with the front end which will spit ball joints out.
@@bossdog1480 already a step ahead of you my friend. Whole front end was done before I bought the car. Diff bushes are still in good nick as well. Shifts good, drives good, no clunks and tracks perfectly straight. Very happy.
@@teejay6342 Good, it will have needed it. Brakes wear quickly too.
Yorak, your one of the best youtubers that I know but is unforgiving act calling a Ford better than a Holden is unforgivable
Still love your channel :)
damn I always stuff it up
this is the most elite of youtube content
i had an AU. drove to melbourne and back several times. once to cairns as well. the only thing that went wrong was one of the coil packs went. cheap fix. the au is ugly but tougher than the toughest old boots. the straight six is fairly powerful as well and has good torque. you can take an au just about anywhere. dont know much about commodores, had one, but it got stolen 3 weeks after i bought it and never saw it again...falcon straight six is superior to buick v6.
The AU V8s are solid too. I had an AU XR8, frigging bulletproof motor.
I just bought an AU and couldnt agree more. This should be tought in aussie schools.
Never have I heard so many true facts in such a short period of time
As a gts owner this was some of the funnest shit ive ever seen. Had me dying when you showed the alloytec picture lmao
Appreciate it bro. Most of the Holden owners in the comments aren’t happy haha glad you can see it’s all for a laugh
@Yorak Hunt yeah lol I'm a VT clubsport second gen owner and this was funny as hell
Alloytec is aussie designed and assembled in Port Melbourne.
good on ya mate, as an au owner i can say ive chopped a wrx and this video is highly accurate
I own one as well haha great car they take off when they hit second gear
@@yorakhunt69 drop insta I needa see this rig
AU is a piece of sh it
my XR6 is almost as old as I am and the engine doesn't miss a beat, love the barra
After i watched Aussie chef Andy the youtube recommended me this. This channel is the most Aussie contents are ever seen
Appreciate it my man
We bought a VX Commodore from a government auction. A base model ex NSW health Service, 45,000 km. It was nice enough to drive but it spent a lot of time at the Holden dealer being repaired. Things would just fail. after 305,000km we retired it as there were burned out valves in the V6 engine. At the same time roughly, my Father bought an ex National Bank company 2001 Ford Falcon SR 6 cyl. from Hansaker Ford in Narromine. It was a 2 yrld car with warranty. 289,000 km later, its still with us. Apart from a service by Ford every 10,000,km, its only had its exhaust, radiator, hoses, 1 window motor, brakes, ball joints replaced. Amazingly reliable and trouble free.
Ahhh the mighty AU XR8 With the powerful 5 litre 220kw Windsor V8. What a car that was kept up with the oil burning gen 3 that Holden had.
Those things sound nice absolutely munch petrol but
@@yorakhunt69 yes they do but they where the Windsor's last stand against the Holden gen 3 before the went to the Boss engine in the BA. If you think they chewed fuel alot wait till you drive an AU T series with the 250kw stroker engine. They went like shit off a shovel but drank fuel like George best.
Needs cylinder shut down for clawing back fuel used when fanging around.
My 2001 Gen 3 does not burn oil at all, and it has 382,885 on it. Have had it for 15 years and it has never burnt oil.
@@BatMan-oe2gh It was the fIrst one that gave the trouble. Sorted by generation 3.
Absolutely love falcons. I wish I never sold my heritage green EF XR8 (in my profile picture). It was a bit slow by today’s standards but sounded sooo good and I never had any trouble cruising freeways for endless hours, posing in car meets, smoking it up at the lights and hanging the arse out in the twisty bits.
I’m 15 with 63 years experience with Holden and I agree ford is better
Umm I believe the Ecotec V6 was Australian made. The 3800 before that on the VN -VR were shipped out from America.
The au's were so sick, they constanly blew up their exhausts from all the awesome that built up in them 😂
I’m a holden guy and I own one but fuck this video was the best thing I’ve seen in a while your killing it mate keep it up
Appreciate it bro haha glad you enjoyed it, ruffled a lot of feather ls with this one 😬
@@yorakhunt69 hahah no worries mate
Appreciate that you didn't diss the ecotech bruz good shit
No way a classic video, came a long way my man
This is absolute comedy gold and I own a commodore.
My SS VU Ute has 382,885, 1 timing chain and does not burn oil. It leaves long marks on the road and is quick. Quicker than a stock barra, but not as quick as a turbo barra though I can hang with it till around 120.
If you look at the news almost all cars involved in a car crash is a Holden commodore 💀
Yep it’s commodores or falcons. They attract a specific type of buyer
Ford
Fantastic on road driving
Ford
Fantastic off-road driving
Such a cleaver spin on words buy the.guys at Ford but Soo accurate
And if you ask one of your mates if there not currently driving there falcon it's probably on jack stand's for one reason or another 😂
@truecichlids8508 I think it's more along the lines of...
Ford
Full Of Rusted Defects
Ford
Found On Rubbish Dump
Ford
Full Of Rancid Drivers
110% falcon!! Underated while the Commodore is overrated, but then uno, most commodore fans aint that bright...sorry.
The rust comparisons - gold right there...
So how come the Commodore, significantly out sold the falcon over the last decade of Australian manufacture.?
propaganda, commodores were all gm parts bin trash, falcons were aussie as it comes
twice as many dumb people as smart ones
Because it was the better car
Meth dealers love there commodores 😂
Because there are more Meth Bogans than Jim Beam Bogans
Commodore handles much better than a Falcon, the Barra is the greatest inline 6 ever built, i own both
What models have you got?
@@rwd323 FGX, Restored HZ GTS
Intech was the best if your not after power only.
You have obviously never driven Australia’s best handling car…. The AU Falcon. There’s reason people don’t drift commodores. In all seriousness, drive an AU handles heaps better than an Bseries or FG Falcon.
They used to make the Alloytech in Melbourne at Fishermans bend, it was just the Chevy smallblock that was imported
Kind of like how fords Miami supercharged 5.0 V8 where they imported the coyote block and built it from there?
We have both in the workshop, Falcon looks big but the driver space is limited. It's more comfortable to sit on Commodore.
As an American, I can clearly see that these cars were very American, especially the Falcon which was from an American brand. Furthermore, both the Falcon and Commodore had sedan, station wagon and pickup variants. It looks like for the former, the Crown Vic, Country Squire and Ranchero survived longer in Australia and for the former, it’s the Impala, Caprice Wagon and El Camino that lived on. For American cars with multiple body styles for the same model, they were common in the 1960s but almost extinct by the 2000s. Australia really did keep classic American cars alive up until 2017.
Most reliable Ford Ive ever owned is made my Mazda...
Holdens send me broke & always end up injured working on Fords, but until I got stuck with the Festi' Trio, the most reliable I ever had was a VF Slant6 ute with three on the tree!
From 15mph to off the clock all in top, tow home a mates cattle truck, collecting railway sleepers or chasing pork-chops AND get ya home with just enough fuel to not start tomorrow...
That thing did it all, except the meter-full causeway at 70mile an hour, yet still got us 25k to town @ full noise before it pinched up! :v
Anyway, cheers & congrats, going through on a binge again... ;)
As a jim beam bogan I approve this message.
As a ford man : some Falcons were better some were not .
I did own a VF SS a VE SV6 & a VN.
VF best Holden ever . FG Falcon was great : steered and handled better than all the Holdens . Brakes were not up to standard . ZF transmission was very good .
The ZF was cheating though.
I still like the falcon as it’s me paddock basher though I LOVE my 900hp holden clubsport
Both falcons and commodores are great fun as 900+ HP street cars or 200hp paddock bashers
Agreed
It's odd coming back to these early videos. You were clearly not yet the icon of all things AU that you have become today. But I'd still have bought you a frosty mid strength beer even back then
Short & sweet! Factually very accurate, 1 nite I left me VN outside in rain cause too drunk to get into garage next day only 4 alloys, tyres & a humugus pile of red s*it left on driveway. Rust mark still there to this day, never did that again.
I6 is and always was better than V simply on harmonics and balance, in 6'es, the falcon wins hands down, different story when you come to 8's tho (but if you can afford an 8 you can afford a decent car, like a toyota)
100% agree any ss thumps an xr8
@@yorakhunt69 and a yaris gt would thump them both
@@shodefektiv the gr Yaris is crazy i have to agree
@@CurtisLSA and around bends, and everywhere but the top end on a perfectly flat and straight dragstrip
I'd take a equally worked 302 over an equally worked 5L. I've got some money in an EF Fairmont which now has a cammed 306 and there is only satisfaction.
I miss my au3 wagon. What an exceptional heap. There’s Nothing like the whiney sounds of old ford power steering pumps and auto transmissions.
Especially in my days driving ABC Cabs.
@@jamesfrench7299 did you loop the end a business card and slot it between a gap in the dash next to the aircon vent, using it as a pen holder? 😃😆
@@Eccentricplum oh my, I forgot lol!!
One of my fav vids on this website
Best Aussie car is the Valiant 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ fight me
Fair call
Just bought a ba xt falcon and this pops up, is it a sign??
all facts here.. my AU2 mechanic said gear box needed overhaul for 6 consecutive years- never did it- and she never needed it... 22 years of pure motoring bliss.. horrible on fuel - never realised this because speedo and fuel gage never worked properly but my new 2001 camry 2.2l 4cly gets like 600km to the tank easy its mind blowing
Try a Yaris. Phenomenal and peppy too.
Personally, I'm a Holden person. I feel like most of their cars are more luxury in my mind, and have a good backstory (old cars)
My dad made a nickname for Ford, which is found on rubbish dump or first on rubbish dump. I don't think fords are bad, but I prefer Holdens.
My question why in the thumb nail are U comparing a hsv against an au
For views 😂
Do some fourbie vids man wanna see what you reckon about Toyota vs Nissan and whatnot
Yeah I was thinking about doing a 79 series one to start off with I’ll get to more cars over time
@@yorakhunt69 fuck oath mate do one on why Nav drivers kiss their dads on the mouth
That chopped down keg carrier is actually kinda fuckin cool
I had a commodore and "Barely Holden together was right." I now have a Ford Fairmont" and I'll never get another Holden again.
Clubsport in the thumbnail 💀
i Like both!
Falcon:Skyline,Impreza
Commodore:Supra,Lancer
Literally picking up an au on Thursday
OI ... I own and drive a still highly functional '95 VS Commodore. Brilliant car it is.
Love him or hate him he is speaking facts
Eh, those two cars will always be remembered as the Supercar Series cars.
Very good. Did you manage to get this video done in one sitting? Or did mummy say it's dinner time?
Ok my dad has a Ford falcon xr6 a Ford mustang and a Holden club sport. What do I do
169 RWHP 1023 nm N/A ute 😁love my ford falcon thanks TuneHouse
One of the best most reliable US Ford engines was and still is the 4.6 litre V8. It was Mazda derived from their very successful 2.3 litre 4 cylinder engine. Ford have an interest Mazda. It was siamesed joined into a 4.6 V8. They call it a Coyote 4.6 but it was around in Taxis, Police cars Pickups and everything in between before the 5 Litre Coyote even came along or was even heard of. This engine was in one of the most reliable Police cars of all time the Ford Victoria. Ford Australia used quite a few off the shelf components from this car for the AU Falcon onwards including power steering and air bag components which proved a Godsend because no Australia manufactured Falcon ever suffered from the Takata air bag saga as GM Toyota BMW VW did, as well some other high end brands that are still to this day trying to sort. The US Ford 4.6 litre and Coyote 5 litre V8 engines can be powerful and reliable engines but to hop them even just a little in most US States takes $$$ and then the end result can be an unreliable engine in which to maintain the power starts to cost mega $$$. This is where the Barra i6 shines and the performance fraternity in the US are just starting to realise this.The performance cost per dollar of the Aussie i6 Barra Turbo engine even for just a little more street power is now a legend. There are many many reasons why Ford Australia never exported the i6 engine to the US and shut up shop in 2016. One of those reasons was that the Barra i6 was never going to make Euro 4 or 5 emissions without direct injection technology. Way too much investment the US Parent Company wanted to become involved in coupled with the fact that everyone wanted to drive a 4X4 or SUV in a declining and limited market. I think for that we should be thankful for the great era we had up until 2016 and enjoy every minute of our wonderful Ford Barras. I am 76 and in 2003 I bought a new Pearl Blue Ford Fairmont i6 non Turbo. It has been King springed, fully nolathaned, extra well maintained, so with 550.000kms and 20 years later its puppy love. Running FG Series l XR6 17 in wheels in original alloy silver she looks a million dollars. Better than the first day l laid my eyes on her on the showroom floor. Whats left of my family may very well have to bury me in this car.
As a Ugandan national, this video has taught me a lot
i approve this message lol
haha whats good Ross!
From a Ford family, but would take a Holden commodore any day before buying an import. We should have kept manufacturing Ford, Holdens and Chryslers. Stop or slow down imports to 20%. Who cares if it costs more, it’s better for the Country. Parts for the next 50 years after each model. No new models allowed for ten years at a time. Better overall for all Australians. Simplicity and affordability trump fancy expensive gimmicks hands down.
For ages, the Commodore was the least Australian made car with around 50% local made content, which was less than the Magna and Camry/Aurion... and much less than the Falcon at 90%+.
But Holden bogans would say there isn't Holden in other countries (except NZ), so somehow therefore _more 'strayin._
1:03 Barra in a vt?
Valiant and Toyota have received them too and many others I'm sure.
I've heard of an XY Falcon that got a Holden 186.
As a fellow 'roach owner, I approve this video !!
I like the falcon better because the barra with its overhead cams and turbocharging appeals more to my predominantly European tastes than the LS does. Also you want what you can't have.
Werri gud video chairs mart 👍👍
Hey so I'm a fan of your channel but I've been looking for a car an extremely reliable one I can't sacrifice the reliability but I can choose between all the ford falcon and the Holden cars since they aren't in my country , especially with minimal information on these I can't know the best one between the v8s or just the bearers. I'm in Africa Kenya and Even though I'm looking for a lasting car because for me I definitely don't want to sacrifice longevity even though the bearers or the v8s still have good performance I don't want to sacrifice reliability since I'm in Africa and the conditions are somewhat similar to Australia where the land cruiser dominates but I'm not into the SUVs since I'm young so if you could really help I'll be glad . Ooh and the mods I'll be running are maybe the suspension mods wheels breaks and maybe stuff to support the turbo to make it more reliable , and out of these if there is a wagon in there I would not mind
What about the Suzuki jimny
im a holdon guy, got 2 vx commodores for $500, only needs an engine swap, cos the previous guy killed the engine.
There's one thing I've learnt about Falcons, the BA and the AU share the same doors 🤣😂
I think it's my dream to buy a VR Commodore with 'FALCON' numberplates.
That clip of the commodore overtaking was in Wollongong 😂😂
Fucking hell, them be fighting words mate
My VX commodore got rear ended like 5 times by some crack junkie, who then tried pitting me at 140kph last week
Only damage is some crumpling in the rear end and smashed tail lights
Recovering from a pit maneuver at 140kph on Salisbury highway (an absolute goat track) is something thats only possible with the superior handling of a commodore
Eventually my balls dropped and i really stuck the foot into it and left mr crackhead in the dust (legendary ecotec did some fine work there)
Cant beat the indestructibility of a commodore
Anyone ever told you Yorak Hunt?
holden commodore were last made in the 2010s where petrol was semi affordable
I thought there was a stuck match difference between the Ford Falcon and Holden Comadore but aplenty not
currently trying to figure out how i can import an au falcon to the us
The crown Victoria is basically your guys version of the au falcon, someone got one into Aus so you might be able to get one over to the US
I suppose they are kinda similar, although I'd say the falcon if far superior if for no other reason than the option for a factory manual transmission. That and I like straight 6s more than v8s
I don't know... My ex's Commodore Executive could tow a fully loaded horse float quite easily, while only stretching the frame a few millimeters over 10 years.
Only downside was going up steep inclines with the future dog food in tow required the air-con to be off.
Holden started to die when the commodore came out they only had 1 of there own engines to put in it the rest they had to borrow.
Holden All Day. Holden is just the best. Cant beat a good ol VK
LOL great video but the AU was so ugly even the blind disliked them
both the ecotec and alloytec were made in Melbourne
What about the gtho phase 3
If it weren't for the 25 year import law in the US I'd probably have one by now.
Well I never did not doubt that weren't a non, anti - Holden fan.
Fact:- Holden's are more gooder. Do ya know wot I mean? Who won more Bathursts?
Never misunderestimate Holden's.........they were the betterest.
Think the theory is the body on the falcons will die before the engine but on the commodore it’s the other way round
And a team commy this is actually pretty funny