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@@Olympushw Yes, you heal my battle weary soul. I have used some of your suggested combos and have done wonders. My Guild knows I like Zeus from Olympus - I just could not keep it to myself! Thank you so much Zeus! When I mention you, I get the love reaction.
Given the potency of Dante and Aurora; I think giving Lara Dodge could have the potential to put her in the category of OP heroes that after the two week intro period new players could not get and discourage new players with finding the game worth player without her.
It is just a marketing ploy. I have been missing out on Cleaver for over 2 years before I get him and I still have yet to level him. (In fact, I still have many many Hero yet to be levelled) Nexter can come up with a Lara sister hero (or a whole family of Croft) in the future and make it available to all. But in the years to come, we will be promoting Hero Wars using Lara in youtube, etc.
I don't get why players are hating on this event. Basicly, getting Lara is for free like it has been with the introduction of all new heroes. The pre-order is just for those who don't want to spend time getting her to a higher color rank.
I generally agree with what you say, but they cannot make her good for the sake of the metagame. The inability to get her after the event is over would otherwise create an unfair situation for players starting after the event. If Lara would be relevant in the metagame, new players would never be able to catch up. This would create a huge dent in motivation for all players joining after the event to keep on playing longterm, and would therefore be a problem for sustainabilty of the game. Thats why i think Nexters made her fun to use in the early game and in PVE mostly, a bit like Keira is for a new player. And thats the main idea behind her anyways - to get new players into the game.
Simple solution: Milk this event as much as possible while saying she won't be available later, then after enough miliking, make her available again. Oldest strategy to create a hype to make money and then make more money
@@Olympushw do you play Alliance at all ? Its pathetic ! The rewards & bundles are aweful. Tho iam very anctious to see what they did with Hero's Way update because that is the only thing that has actual value
My sever is dying on alliance because it’s really only tree guild that are active and stay on top and in those three guild, each has a few that spends a lot of money. I’ve probably spent 3-4k in the couple of months and it’s really to compete with the top 20 players of the server. I got the resources but it really is unfair how expensive it is and how I can pay to win
The disappointment with what was revealed with the preorder was huge. The overall opinion from my guild is that most are disappointed in the preorder. Myself included, so I ordered nothing.
@@Olympushw No it wasn't. Player expectation was to get out their wallets and pay a nice 300+ $ for a maxed Lara. How are there still people that think they are not being totally fucked by NEXTERS ?
I think the analysis of lara croft is missing the fact that she is a hero designed to help new players catch up to maxxed accounts a bit faster. Her purpose is the extra expedition ability to get red artifacts.
If you get a significant amount of event coins for levelling Laura Croft to Red, then there is the possibility of easily getting soul stones for the new hero.
If you are talking about "improvement", I know you can add extra characters to the text for the "text-to-speech converter" so that words are pronounced correctly. For example, "present" sounded like a "gift", not a verb to "demonstrate". Not a big deal. I get it. You did mention improvement though. And I did say I love your thoughts! Onya Zeus!
thank you for your feedback. I want to keep my promise f 2 videos per day and i cant avoid mistakes. takes to much hard work to come every day with something new and i feel like im all the time on rush. and second is language barrier, many times i don't understand where is the mistake
@@Olympushw You are a super-powerhouse! I do not want to disrupt your creative output! I know what you are up against! Can I ask what your native language is? I have to say "Greek", being Zeus and all.
@@Olympushw The only good thing I see about this new hero is that you can stune the opposing team, since in GA and COW not everyone can have Sebastian to cancel that :)
Zeus, you think that this kind of pre-order isn't good but I think it is good... it gives less advantage to those who spend a lot... this way we all can gather her soul stones at same pace...
She needs to have Physical and Magic Dodge at least for a limited skill activation uptime. It would definitely go more with her "dodgy" identity. Cant agree more with you on this one!
Just been watching Charlie. the biggest mistake going is the overhype ....again. It will be a Julius style event and her power is just as strong as Daredevil. Yeah, considering this is a major hype, it sure is a disappointment. 3d in, nobody bought it yet, but her skills isn'tt the best of
thank you Zeus for this information which will certainly change the vision of certain players. We will see in terms of skins and glyphs what it will be possible to consider. Good evening to you
This is exactly why these money grabbers at nexters did it this way. They know people will at least pay the $10. They're absolutely ridiculous in their pursuit of grabbing money.
I agree with you but that comes with skill activation and lasts 9 seconds. It is not active all the time like other stats. Also once activated in battle can not be repeated
All these things are extremely stupid. They include one hero after another. There is no end to it. If they make some useless hero, it is a waste of time. If they make a hero who is a game changer, this is rude, because he will make some of our teams obsolete and we will have to raise this new hero from scratch. Or to pay like lunatics. I really don't know why they invent a hero a month. Soon we will have 200 heroes, maybe 50% of them would be totally useless, and it will be a must to have at least 30 of them to combine properly. At this moment, we have 62 heroes, and if you want to have the full potential of combining, you have to have 26 heroes to the maximum. It is almost 50%.
@@Olympushw I know that I was pretty conservative in my estimation. It is totally OK that every team has a counter team. But, this is ridiculous that every great team has a counterteam that can destroy it in 40 seconds. This is the problem in this game. For instance, I have Rufus, Dante, Celeste, Arachne, and Martha + Axel. I am totally paralyzed, I push Dante only, because I don't know what to do. Rufus can be out of the game if I decide to use Dante as a tank. Martha can be out of game, if I make a strong magic team, I don't need so much health, I have Axel. Celeste must give her place to Sebastian and instead of Arachne I can put many other heroes: Fafnir, Nebula, Solaris, Iris..., I REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY THIS GAME.
Hahaha. Best joke of the year... "Game Offers should match player expectations and needs". You are talking about NEXTERS ffs.... Game Offers will match the strategy that makes Nexters the most money and nothing else. Wait until they get the idea to make titan artifacts be able to reach level 150 for no reason except people having to pay for upgrades...
Good job I got my tanks all in place, but like, she is and will become a Ginger. She wil be easily moved out of the way for better favourable heroes. Marketing sucks, overhype is just nonsense and we don't need another. I been collecting everything I can for her and this is one of hose ''exception verses reality'' type of thing. The adverts are louder than words, as what they promise and what you get are two different things... like the hero wars mobile adverts to drag people in. This is just bad on all round. Heck, I am pretty sure even Hedei and Ziri could beat her and they are the worst. This is totally weird and painful. I am not surprised nobody wanted to advance buy her...she isn't worth anything.
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I love the thoughts of Dr Zeus. A true champion of the realm.
thank you i appreciate it :)
@@Olympushw Yes, you heal my battle weary soul. I have used some of your suggested combos and have done wonders. My Guild knows I like Zeus from Olympus - I just could not keep it to myself! Thank you so much Zeus! When I mention you, I get the love reaction.
Given the potency of Dante and Aurora; I think giving Lara Dodge could have the potential to put her in the category of OP heroes that after the two week intro period new players could not get and discourage new players with finding the game worth player without her.
you have point
It is just a marketing ploy.
I have been missing out on Cleaver for over 2 years before I get him and I still have yet to level him. (In fact, I still have many many Hero yet to be levelled)
Nexter can come up with a Lara sister hero (or a whole family of Croft) in the future and make it available to all.
But in the years to come, we will be promoting Hero Wars using Lara in youtube, etc.
Interesting point of view, it is smart
Don't worry about cleaver: useless hero in the high end of the game
I don't get why players are hating on this event.
Basicly, getting Lara is for free like it has been with the introduction of all new heroes.
The pre-order is just for those who don't want to spend time getting her to a higher color rank.
Many players were expecting soul stones. This is what i get on feedback
Hi Zeus 😊
100% Agree!
Dodge would be real cool, but instead of the cosmetic Skin it could be Magic Defense...
agree cosmetic skin should have magic or armor something to protect her more
I generally agree with what you say, but they cannot make her good for the sake of the metagame. The inability to get her after the event is over would otherwise create an unfair situation for players starting after the event. If Lara would be relevant in the metagame, new players would never be able to catch up. This would create a huge dent in motivation for all players joining after the event to keep on playing longterm, and would therefore be a problem for sustainabilty of the game.
Thats why i think Nexters made her fun to use in the early game and in PVE mostly, a bit like Keira is for a new player. And thats the main idea behind her anyways - to get new players into the game.
you have point :)
Simple solution: Milk this event as much as possible while saying she won't be available later, then after enough miliking, make her available again. Oldest strategy to create a hype to make money and then make more money
I think the biggest battle going on at the moment is Players vs Devs, the Devs seem to be determined to continue with Lets get the Sucker's attitude !
i do believe they will get feedback out of this event. they are watching reactions in discord
@@Olympushw do you play Alliance at all ? Its pathetic ! The rewards & bundles are aweful. Tho iam very anctious to see what they did with Hero's Way update because that is the only thing that has actual value
I dont play alliance. I will start coming weeks to play alliance and make content because i have request from players
My sever is dying on alliance because it’s really only tree guild that are active and stay on top and in those three guild, each has a few that spends a lot of money. I’ve probably spent 3-4k in the couple of months and it’s really to compete with the top 20 players of the server. I got the resources but it really is unfair how expensive it is and how I can pay to win
Our server chat is getting filled with thoughts of server merging
You should really change your name from Olympus/Zeus to simply -LEGEND !
Thank you for your good words :)
The disappointment with what was revealed with the preorder was huge. The overall opinion from my guild is that most are disappointed in the preorder. Myself included, so I ordered nothing.
I have had many disapointment messages this days
Time and time again, the game developers show just how out of touch they are with their customer base.
It is an offer for those who like Hero Wars. It is 1 of the many special offer for special people.
We all like hero wars, players expectation was soul stones :)
@@Olympushw No it wasn't. Player expectation was to get out their wallets and pay a nice 300+ $ for a maxed Lara. How are there still people that think they are not being totally fucked by NEXTERS ?
I think the analysis of lara croft is missing the fact that she is a hero designed to help new players catch up to maxxed accounts a bit faster. Her purpose is the extra expedition ability to get red artifacts.
HW is more complex than catching up with just 1 hero
@@Olympushw The red artifacts apply to all heroes. Lara seems to be a non-combat support hero.
If you get a significant amount of event coins for levelling Laura Croft to Red, then there is the possibility of easily getting soul stones for the new hero.
Agree
If you are talking about "improvement", I know you can add extra characters to the text for the "text-to-speech converter" so that words are pronounced correctly. For example, "present" sounded like a "gift", not a verb to "demonstrate". Not a big deal. I get it. You did mention improvement though. And I did say I love your thoughts! Onya Zeus!
thank you for your feedback. I want to keep my promise f 2 videos per day and i cant avoid mistakes. takes to much hard work to come every day with something new and i feel like im all the time on rush. and second is language barrier, many times i don't understand where is the mistake
@@Olympushw You are a super-powerhouse! I do not want to disrupt your creative output! I know what you are up against! Can I ask what your native language is? I have to say "Greek", being Zeus and all.
@@Olympushw I am happy to help you in any way I can. I love your mission! Give me one!
Im from North Macedonia. Near Greece, i like mithology, thats why i started Olympus 5 years ago and i put my nickname Zeus :)
@@Olympushw Onya Zeus! I love mythology too! I learned it in school in Latin, and the teacher was so excellent, he did the Greek too!
Thank you Zeus, may be Astaroth will be good for keep her a life :) , but let see when they add her today
We shall see
@@Olympushw The only good thing I see about this new hero is that you can stune the opposing team, since in GA and COW not everyone can have Sebastian to cancel that :)
I agree :)
Zeus, you think that this kind of pre-order isn't good but I think it is good... it gives less advantage to those who spend a lot... this way we all can gather her soul stones at same pace...
Players were expecting pre order to include soul stones. This is feedback i have had this week
The addition of Lara was not supposed to be to see what she can add to the game, it was ONLY to see what she could add to the bottom line.
She needs to have Physical and Magic Dodge at least for a limited skill activation uptime. It would definitely go more with her "dodgy" identity. Cant agree more with you on this one!
I agree magic dodge like ishmael dodge would be great :)
more money for company thats oll
Our guild is already dead. Very few active players.
change your guild, find another guild with passionate players
So I’d still have to get her souls stones even with purchase… Nah I’d rather work on Iris and and Amira
Trop belle
Just been watching Charlie. the biggest mistake going is the overhype ....again. It will be a Julius style event and her power is just as strong as Daredevil. Yeah, considering this is a major hype, it sure is a disappointment. 3d in, nobody bought it yet, but her skills isn'tt the best of
False, she's acrobatic, not dodge, she should have agility: base+10%
respect your opinion :)
Lara's Talisman is also going to be for sale doesn't that give her anything ?
thank you Zeus for this information which will certainly change the vision of certain players. We will see in terms of skins and glyphs what it will be possible to consider. Good evening to you
Thabk you for watching :)
This is exactly why these money grabbers at nexters did it this way. They know people will at least pay the $10. They're absolutely ridiculous in their pursuit of grabbing money.
Some players may want the avatar
Lara counters are Jhu & Kayla put both of those in a team Lara is dead is sec's..
add helios there :)
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She gets dodge and defenses from skill.
I agree with you but that comes with skill activation and lasts 9 seconds. It is not active all the time like other stats. Also once activated in battle can not be repeated
All these things are extremely stupid. They include one hero after another. There is no end to it. If they make some useless hero, it is a waste of time. If they make a hero who is a game changer, this is rude, because he will make some of our teams obsolete and we will have to raise this new hero from scratch. Or to pay like lunatics.
I really don't know why they invent a hero a month. Soon we will have 200 heroes, maybe 50% of them would be totally useless, and it will be a must to have at least 30 of them to combine properly. At this moment, we have 62 heroes, and if you want to have the full potential of combining, you have to have 26 heroes to the maximum. It is almost 50%.
One day i was counting heros that i use in my battles. I counted around 40 heroes that i use in different battles :)
@@Olympushw I know that I was pretty conservative in my estimation. It is totally OK that every team has a counter team. But, this is ridiculous that every great team has a counterteam that can destroy it in 40 seconds. This is the problem in this game.
For instance, I have Rufus, Dante, Celeste, Arachne, and Martha + Axel. I am totally paralyzed, I push Dante only, because I don't know what to do. Rufus can be out of the game if I decide to use Dante as a tank. Martha can be out of game, if I make a strong magic team, I don't need so much health, I have Axel. Celeste must give her place to Sebastian and instead of Arachne I can put many other heroes: Fafnir, Nebula, Solaris, Iris..., I REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY THIS GAME.
And no VIP points with pre-order! Absolutely useless!
Hahaha. Best joke of the year... "Game Offers should match player expectations and needs". You are talking about NEXTERS ffs.... Game Offers will match the strategy that makes Nexters the most money and nothing else. Wait until they get the idea to make titan artifacts be able to reach level 150 for no reason except people having to pay for upgrades...
Good job I got my tanks all in place, but like, she is and will become a Ginger. She wil be easily moved out of the way for better favourable heroes. Marketing sucks, overhype is just nonsense and we don't need another. I been collecting everything I can for her and this is one of hose ''exception verses reality'' type of thing. The adverts are louder than words, as what they promise and what you get are two different things... like the hero wars mobile adverts to drag people in. This is just bad on all round. Heck, I am pretty sure even Hedei and Ziri could beat her and they are the worst. This is totally weird and painful. I am not surprised nobody wanted to advance buy her...she isn't worth anything.
2-3 day left to test her in amx testing and arena maybe