@Eddy Goss for the money a steel track is gonna cost you, you'd still never be able to touch a ventrac on slopes, or do as little damage to the ground as them.
I would keep the 4whlr and get a small to mid size tractor. You can do so much more with a tractor that has a bucket on front. Make roads, lift heavy objects, even tear things down. Our tractor not only is a bushhog, or a backhoe, it does all our heavy lifting. Can't imagine not having it!
You should look at a Kubota tractor. I’ve got one and it’s great. Plus it’s fairly narrow. And it has a bucket on the front for moving dirt. I’ve got a tilling attachment on the back for tilling our garden in the spring.
I got my poulan (made by husqvarna) for $200 and it was the best thing I've bought besides my 30gal air compressor. We just bought a house with 1.5 acres in the mountains of Pennsylvania (so also has some hills). I use it more to tow around my $20 utility trailer I got at a yard sale, than i use it to mow grass. I've also rented hydraulic scoops and other things like that if you want to have some of the uses of bigger, more expensive, tractors. If you can find a decent lawn tractor for cheap, you will find a lot of uses for it, trust me.
I live in south western PA. Similar land style. Close to WV. Id say we use our tractor more than the ATV. Its a diesel engine with 60 inch cutting deck. So not only does it keep the feilds low but tractors have PTO. And if u you know anything about PTO than you can do anything. We have a pto wood chipper and plows for digging up the earth, electronic 50 gallon sprayer for weed prevention or fertilizer. ATVs have their uses, but the power of a tractor is unmatched. You can drive steeper hills on a tractor too. Edit: last thing, it comes down to power versus speed in my opinion. Plowing snow is horrendous on a tractor, its slow and you have to drive in reverse. Atvs and trucks have front plows and are wayyy better. But if i needed to smooth out some land, i wouldn't wanna drag chains on an ATV. Id 100% use a tractor attachment because moving earth takes power.
Rode on mower, with ATV tires, Throw a belt powered water pump on it, an older model Chevy altinator, fer portable power, like 12v or 120 with a converter
You could do a lot with a 4wd compact tractor. they actually aren't much physically larger than an atv, but way heavier of course. Your atv cant mount a bucket, hoe, box blade, snowblower, pull loads and run auxiliary equipment with a PTO. If i could i would have both, a tractor isnt very good for getting somewhere fast or for cooling off when its too hot lol
Man. Speaking of hills and tractors. My land is on a hill... and we have a tractor and I have a FEARLESS husband. And I also have a few new Grey hairs.... he's almost tipped over several times. Eeeeeeek
Deere 1025r does hills like that about the same width but its longer wheel base so getting on and off the hills you can bottom out. However get stuck use the loader to curl your way backwards to get out of the mud
If you get a tractor it would give you a good reason to make some good trails (which is my favorite past time) which in the end will make it so you can use more of your property and drag trees from anywhere in the forest, giving you the ability to thin your woods in a healthy way
As someone who was born and raised in WV I agree. A tractor is going to be a death trap they are too top heavy. I've lost family members on em. Now that being said. Look into a ventrak they have numerous implements for it. 4x4. They are little tanks literally. And they are wide tracked so they have a hard time rolling or flipping. But you might like it buddy
Plus a good tractor will set you back 30 thousand dollars. That's pretty expensive for a small ranch I think once you get more established and find more ways to utilize your property and build on it in the future you might find it necessary
Mowers there my go to I got tractors but I’d rather mess with a mower there cheaper easier to work on and parts are super available and they’ll work damn hard
i love forward to the video 10 years from now: "well, I finally got a tractor...y'all were right" not to replace your ATV's, to do all the sorts of stuff they cant do.
I'd say for heavy hauling or something similar. Like if the 4 wheeler gets stuck. One tractor I'd recommend is the Farmall H. Big, easy enough to work on. They made 400,000 of em so the aftermarket is pretty decent. You can turbo them if you're into that. And hey if you need it you can out on a front loader. The Farmall H is legendary for being a really good tractor. With that terrain make sure you get a wide front for the added security. Might want to bring the tires out further with some wider tires aswell. Edit: for context on the older tractors you can bring the rear tires out because of the design of the axles.
A lot of people seem to recommend getting a honda atv. My best advice on that is go to a dealership or a store you trust, explain your situation and see what they say.
lot of people say honda because of the reliability. No belt to slip or get wet, 1st gear is always super low so you always have power even in my 350. They're just workhorses not some combination of play and work
four wheelers easier to right in the event it gets wronged but the weight and low geared torque is a huge benefit a man needs multiple tools though some tools just for rescuing other tools I'd say get a ripsaw tank mount a half dozen "potato cannons" and plant a few potatoes downrange 😂😂
Idk I would do a skid loader if anything just because they are pretty small and can do most things a tractor can. If what you got works why change. There is a damn good reason the old timers are driving their old trucks it friggin works why change 😂
Oh man, what area of WV? (I dont mean specifics, just general area). I live in Indiana now, but Im from a place right at the mouth of Paint Creek called Holly Grove...close to Hansford.
A small little Ford tractor has a very low center of gravity, I have two of them, use to mow my lawn, 2500# I will own them until I die, yes they will last my lifetime and most likely my son's lives
I use a 2000 Honda 350, super reliable and light, I can pick up the back or front end pretty easily. I don't have any heavy work to do around my place though
They make orchard tractors that are narrower and a tractor is gonna do a better job of getting through mud at the same as a 4 wheeler if they’re going the same speed.
I do no-dig farming, it completely negates the need for a tractor at least if you're only farming for sustenance like I am. Look up Charles Dowding, dude is the king and it is largely he alone that popularized the method and showed it to the masses.
I would buy an old jcb 4 in one bucket and back hoe, I used one for years and that thing could go anywhere 4 x 4 and they can climb 😂 wont fit trough the narrow gaps but it can make the gaps wider no problem. But obviously you would keep your quad anyway 🤷♂️..
8n is a no go. just seeing your terrain in WV i cant fathom why an 8n would be suggested. i tried something similar, it looked exactly the same (8n, 9n, etc. idk) first gear was so fuqn fast it was almost unusable, we never got it to the guy that would re-gear it before it was sold when the place we where at closed down. it was too fast to cut the 2-3 foot grass for the cook out band nights we ran each weekend. regrettably no 4x4 meant it was useless on the hill with all the grapes when damp and even more so wet. so for you, at least what ive seen in your ytube shorts, i would def not recommend it. instead i would suggest a sub compact or compact tractor, that way depending on your chosen model you still have good maneuverability in tight spaces but you also have access to many pto attachments and perhaps even a front bucket and the ever so useful 4x4.
Could probably do it with just a few acres. Depends on your plans. The grand dream is probably out of reach for beginners (am one, mean no offense.) but in time, could probably hop and trade and consolidate.
So atvs are about 10 grand, side-by-sides are closer to 20 and sometimes 30 grand, so why not get a jeep or something like that? These prices are ridiculous for what you get.
You'll end up flipping a tractor out there in my opinion. Or at least more likely to than with the four wheeler
Plus if you flip a four wheeler you don't need to get another tractor just so you can flip that one while trying to get the first one out too 🤣
I would love to see a full tour of the homestead
If ya ever have the funds check out a ventrac( probably spelled wrong) but they are very very versatile and reliable and can handle crazy grade
I'm sure it's above his budget to buy one, although that'd be the machine to do everything with
Steel track skid steer
@Eddy Goss for the money a steel track is gonna cost you, you'd still never be able to touch a ventrac on slopes, or do as little damage to the ground as them.
I would keep the 4whlr and get a small to mid size tractor. You can do so much more with a tractor that has a bucket on front. Make roads, lift heavy objects, even tear things down. Our tractor not only is a bushhog, or a backhoe, it does all our heavy lifting. Can't imagine not having it!
Not to mention the huge plethora of implements you can get that make it be able to do everything.
@@mhammer3186 Exactly! We have the disc and plow to make gardens, auger for fence building, backhoe attachments, bushhog, and forklift.
That's a solid 45°hill right there, idk what grade that is but it's nearly a 12-12 pitch fer a roof
Get some tracks for your atv, they're expensive but they work.
YES
Mercer county viewer here, I've seen plenty of people with a 4 wheeler with extra space to traverse the woods.
Mercer county viewer her too! 👍
You should look at a Kubota tractor. I’ve got one and it’s great. Plus it’s fairly narrow. And it has a bucket on the front for moving dirt. I’ve got a tilling attachment on the back for tilling our garden in the spring.
My smaller kubota tractor does great up here in northern WV, a little diesel goes a long way if you can keep the bucket close to the ground
I miss West Virginia. Jobs have me in Tennessee for now, hope to retire back to WV some day.
I hope your wish comes true. I've been in WV all my life and I am very happy here. 😊👍
Tractor, muddy in the fall, big ole ruts everywhere...4 wheeler float right over it
Hey!! I live in WV too! Didn't know you did till I saw this video. I live in the northern part of Mercer county, very close to Summers, county. 😊👍
Aw shit I didn't even realize. We're neighbors. I'll be damned.
Nothing better than the hills
I got my poulan (made by husqvarna) for $200 and it was the best thing I've bought besides my 30gal air compressor. We just bought a house with 1.5 acres in the mountains of Pennsylvania (so also has some hills). I use it more to tow around my $20 utility trailer I got at a yard sale, than i use it to mow grass. I've also rented hydraulic scoops and other things like that if you want to have some of the uses of bigger, more expensive, tractors. If you can find a decent lawn tractor for cheap, you will find a lot of uses for it, trust me.
If you ever NEEDED a tractor you could always rent a bobcat. Those are pretty damn small.
Your right a quad is just about the perfect thing for you to have
Hell yeah, we have the same ear buds.
I live in south western PA. Similar land style. Close to WV. Id say we use our tractor more than the ATV. Its a diesel engine with 60 inch cutting deck. So not only does it keep the feilds low but tractors have PTO. And if u you know anything about PTO than you can do anything. We have a pto wood chipper and plows for digging up the earth, electronic 50 gallon sprayer for weed prevention or fertilizer. ATVs have their uses, but the power of a tractor is unmatched. You can drive steeper hills on a tractor too.
Edit: last thing, it comes down to power versus speed in my opinion. Plowing snow is horrendous on a tractor, its slow and you have to drive in reverse. Atvs and trucks have front plows and are wayyy better. But if i needed to smooth out some land, i wouldn't wanna drag chains on an ATV. Id 100% use a tractor attachment because moving earth takes power.
Thought about a ventrac or a steiner tractor it's as big as a utv. And has lots of attachments/ implements
He's 1000 percent right. I just dug my Mahindra out of a hillside that didn't look too steep.
Rain. Rain is why.
Rode on mower, with ATV tires,
Throw a belt powered water pump on it, an older model Chevy altinator, fer portable power, like 12v or 120 with a converter
Just look at it this way,. That slope is totally flat. 🤠
Maybe a rtv style Polaris or something of the sort if you needed to haul more tractors could tip over or get stuck somewhere
my honda 350 tipped onto a tree while on my trails, literally just put my foot out and easily stopped it
Compact tractor w manual shift, old kubota b6000 or 7000, they're the same width as a wheeler
I'll always go for the ATV!! plus put one of our portable awnings for ATV and no competition guaranteed
Nothing beats skill. But yeah I agree with you and you don't seem to move heavy loads often enough to need a tractor.
Gator would work with the atv fleet but that jeep is gold bud
Kubota makes a 28-30 hp low-profile tractor with removable loader and backhoe attachment not much wider than 4-wheeler
You could do a lot with a 4wd compact tractor. they actually aren't much physically larger than an atv, but way heavier of course. Your atv cant mount a bucket, hoe, box blade, snowblower, pull loads and run auxiliary equipment with a PTO. If i could i would have both, a tractor isnt very good for getting somewhere fast or for cooling off when its too hot lol
Man. Speaking of hills and tractors. My land is on a hill... and we have a tractor and I have a FEARLESS husband. And I also have a few new Grey hairs.... he's almost tipped over several times. Eeeeeeek
I have a ford 8n live in Ritchie County WV . I can't take it everywhere...... a walking tractor is my next step
A 6x4 john deere gator would be pretty sweet. 😎👌
Buy a ventrac tractor 4wd articulated and low to the ground! I think it would do very well on you terrain !
Looks like excellent white tail habitat
Deere 1025r does hills like that about the same width but its longer wheel base so getting on and off the hills you can bottom out. However get stuck use the loader to curl your way backwards to get out of the mud
I live here in the great mountain momma and I agree having a tractor might be a bit useless
If you get a tractor it would give you a good reason to make some good trails (which is my favorite past time) which in the end will make it so you can use more of your property and drag trees from anywhere in the forest, giving you the ability to thin your woods in a healthy way
A tracked skid steer is the way to go. I think the only reason you would need a tractor is for the PTO.
As someone who was born and raised in WV I agree. A tractor is going to be a death trap they are too top heavy. I've lost family members on em. Now that being said.
Look into a ventrak they have numerous implements for it. 4x4. They are little tanks literally. And they are wide tracked so they have a hard time rolling or flipping. But you might like it buddy
Plus a good tractor will set you back 30 thousand dollars. That's pretty expensive for a small ranch I think once you get more established and find more ways to utilize your property and build on it in the future you might find it necessary
Mowers there my go to I got tractors but I’d rather mess with a mower there cheaper easier to work on and parts are super available and they’ll work damn hard
Taking pain saw with you cut down some of them trees and make your Trail where you want to go and the trees you cut down good for firewood
Also in WV I have just 3 acres and 2 of them a goat can barely traverse 😂
And way easier to get out from under a rolled 4 wheeler by yourself than a rolled tractor.
i love forward to the video 10 years from now: "well, I finally got a tractor...y'all were right"
not to replace your ATV's, to do all the sorts of stuff they cant do.
You do my man, you're living the dream.
Ya atv definitely looks like the best option 🤘
Atv is what I would love to have here. It's so bumpy with Indian mounds all over.
I'd say for heavy hauling or something similar. Like if the 4 wheeler gets stuck. One tractor I'd recommend is the Farmall H. Big, easy enough to work on. They made 400,000 of em so the aftermarket is pretty decent. You can turbo them if you're into that. And hey if you need it you can out on a front loader. The Farmall H is legendary for being a really good tractor. With that terrain make sure you get a wide front for the added security. Might want to bring the tires out further with some wider tires aswell.
Edit: for context on the older tractors you can bring the rear tires out because of the design of the axles.
A lot of people seem to recommend getting a honda atv.
My best advice on that is go to a dealership or a store you trust, explain your situation and see what they say.
lot of people say honda because of the reliability. No belt to slip or get wet, 1st gear is always super low so you always have power even in my 350. They're just workhorses not some combination of play and work
four wheelers easier to right in the event it gets wronged but the weight and low geared torque is a huge benefit a man needs multiple tools though some tools just for rescuing other tools I'd say get a ripsaw tank mount a half dozen "potato cannons" and plant a few potatoes downrange 😂😂
try a mini bobcat with tracks. they call them “Dingos”
Ok hear me out let build one a small monster of a machine
Idk I would do a skid loader if anything just because they are pretty small and can do most things a tractor can. If what you got works why change. There is a damn good reason the old timers are driving their old trucks it friggin works why change 😂
Atvs/bikes are the best for riding wv hills, wouldn't bother on a tractor unless you got at least a 15-20 acre relatively flat field you wanna work
Oh man, what area of WV? (I dont mean specifics, just general area). I live in Indiana now, but Im from a place right at the mouth of Paint Creek called Holly Grove...close to Hansford.
A small little Ford tractor has a very low center of gravity, I have two of them, use to mow my lawn, 2500# I will own them until I die, yes they will last my lifetime and most likely my son's lives
I use a 2000 Honda 350, super reliable and light, I can pick up the back or front end pretty easily. I don't have any heavy work to do around my place though
If the 4 wheeler flips and you're not injured, you can flip it back by yourself.
Funfact! The atv was invented by the Japanese to use as tractors in their mountain farms
They make orchard tractors that are narrower and a tractor is gonna do a better job of getting through mud at the same as a 4 wheeler if they’re going the same speed.
If u could get one a ventrac would be great
I’ve flipped a four wheeler on that type of terrain. Don’t give people who have never done hard work in their life attention 🙏🏼🤣
You need a couple of mules 😆
West Virginia mountain mama for a reason
You need a compact 4x4 tractor, if you got one, seems you can do more with a smaller tractor, in places like! That,
I do no-dig farming, it completely negates the need for a tractor at least if you're only farming for sustenance like I am.
Look up Charles Dowding, dude is the king and it is largely he alone that popularized the method and showed it to the masses.
I would buy an old jcb 4 in one bucket and back hoe, I used one for years and that thing could go anywhere 4 x 4 and they can climb 😂 wont fit trough the narrow gaps but it can make the gaps wider no problem. But obviously you would keep your quad anyway 🤷♂️..
Stay with the honda for sure
Dude, gotta have a tractor
Yeah 4wheeler is best for thst environment
nice to have rool over protection. also have you considered magnatrack
man this guy is alright😊
BCS or another brand hand tractor is great for farming purposes, especially for a small self-sufficiency scale
Sxs is probably better, the right side by side. There are many many many different kinds of sxs. They're under 50"wide.
We use a gator for that
Vantrac tractor
You need someone like a Suzuki Samurai or a imported rhd Japanese 4x4 mini truck
I'd get a Rokon.
For some reason I thought you were in Alaska or Montana idk why haha.
8n is a no go. just seeing your terrain in WV i cant fathom why an 8n would be suggested. i tried something similar, it looked exactly the same (8n, 9n, etc. idk) first gear was so fuqn fast it was almost unusable, we never got it to the guy that would re-gear it before it was sold when the place we where at closed down. it was too fast to cut the 2-3 foot grass for the cook out band nights we ran each weekend. regrettably no 4x4 meant it was useless on the hill with all the grapes when damp and even more so wet. so for you, at least what ive seen in your ytube shorts, i would def not recommend it. instead i would suggest a sub compact or compact tractor, that way depending on your chosen model you still have good maneuverability in tight spaces but you also have access to many pto attachments and perhaps even a front bucket and the ever so useful 4x4.
I just now learned that he lives in my mome state
You know it
What part of wv ypu live in I am from mcdowell county wv looks alot like it
you in a need for artic cat 4x4 ^^
How many acres would you recommend someone get if they wanted to live an off grid lifestyle?
Could probably do it with just a few acres. Depends on your plans. The grand dream is probably out of reach for beginners (am one, mean no offense.) but in time, could probably hop and trade and consolidate.
How about a ventrac🤷♂️
it ain't called mountain momma for nothing
Move the land
Tractors wouldn't be a good with that steep grade, your center of gravity is lower on a 4-wheeler.
Have you looked into ventrac
Tracked skid loader?
If you were to buy 10 acres right now in WV, which county? Thx!
There's always Ventrac
You probably should have gotten a side by side instead of another ATV
Have a helicopter deliver the tracker for you.
Mercedes Unimog is the solution for that
Same bro what part
So atvs are about 10 grand, side-by-sides are closer to 20 and sometimes 30 grand, so why not get a jeep or something like that? These prices are ridiculous for what you get.