Why Giants Kayvon Thibodeaux has SUPERSTAR Pass Rush Potential
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- New York Giants Defensive End Kayvon Thibodeaux had a huge year 2 in the NFL and today we are going to analyze his film and really get into why he showed so much potential.
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Like most young players he just needs to be more consistent
Having Dre Patterson in that room is going to take him to the next level.
also competing and training with Burns will help alot as well
Best thing to me is that closing speed. When he has a clear path to the QB. He closes so so fast. Its like he hits the turbo.
He still has a lot of room to grow. I mean he only had a 6.4% pass rush win rate last season. But I think next year will be his breakout year
He’s going to have 15 sacks if he plays every game.
He lacks the strength to win against blocks but knows enough moves to compensate for that. When he does beat the tackle, he is so fast that he gets to the qb most of the time, which is why he had 12.5 sacks last season despite having a 6.7% win rate.
Definitely most slept on. He mentioned he wants to get better as a team player watch out for him. Says forget the stats.
he also has another pro bowl caliber edge on the other side teaching him and also taking some leverage off him
The 2024 Giants are going to get to the QB consistently.
I think this season will be massive for him, he will have Burns taking attention and a rotation to give them all some rest.
Agree 100%. Surprised so many Giants fans have given up on KT.
my problem with Thibodeaux is there were plays last season where he just gave up and did not even try. You would see him jogging on the field or not even try to get past the tackle. hopefully he steps up his game with a better pass rush around him.
i dont think you ever watched him play then
@@Johnkopft obviously you're the one who did not watch him play. for the past two seasons, he has plays he just straight-up does not try on. he'll either slightly jog or half-heartily push a lineman.
@@brandonkaufmann6831 how many defensive ends do you really see play 85-100 percent of snaps obviously hes gonna be tired some plays but he doesn't quit on plays
Key word being potential. In college he was at one point looked at as a clear cut number one pick. He’s always had the tools, but he’s never been able to put them together all the time. I truly worry he doesn’t put in enough work in the offseason to gain the consistency he needs to be a great player. He may be one of those guys that stays in the good not great and somewhat underwhelming career path. He’s at the point where he can beat bad players consistently because he’s just more talented but the above average players just lock him down because he’s not an elite athlete. He’s a very good athlete but not parsons or Garrett. And when you’re not an elite athlete you need to have a deep bag and strong plan or you will never be more than pretty good
If he can put on 10to 15 pounds and keep his speed he will be a monster
I think with the new DC he’s going to have more consistent games. The secondary is now going to be able to have guys cover and double cover instead of blitzing at a high rate. Leads to the QB having to hold on for a little longer and that leads to sacks
The giants front line is good on paper there good but we still don't know if the coach will be Blitzen are corners are a question and Safety
70% of his sacks came against 2 teams with struggling OL’s.
I know people bring up the pass rush win rate and stuff but to act like this guy is a bust is crazy. He flashed a lot his first 2 years I mean he got double digit sacks last year. He will get better especially with burns drawing some attention away from him
Thibodeaux can be a fine edge in the NFL. Saying hes gonna become a TOP 5 Edge Rusher/OLB is a bit rich, in my opinion. Most of his opponents you showed were backup caliber O-Linemen, Linemen with little experience playing in the league or even Tight Ends. Sure, he beat Mailata and Zach Tom on some plays, but overall he just doesnt win consistent enough to crack a case of him being an elite edge rusher. Stats dont lie, and they show that he tends to completely disappear from time to time. Even for full games, his imapct is zero to none. His big stats came from games against mediocre at best O-Lines (7 of 13 Sacks came from games against the Jets and the Commanders) and he often gets blocked well by better O-Linemen. His pressures were also inflated a lot by playing againtst lesser competition (10 in one game against Washington LMFAO). He often overshoots and therefore misses his contain duty or his fit in the run game. He lacks elite tools and often presents an unpolished set of hands, that tend to keep him locked up by most average oder above Linemen. Again, the point can be made that he can become a solid edge, but even his own team didnt trust the process in trading for Brian Burns to be their weakside pass rusher in the new defensive scheme. TOP 5 should not be a discussion at this point of his career. One of your rare misses
I disagree, I think he’ll be top 5.
I couldnt have said ot better. This player has shorter arms, hes ordinary at best turning speed to power, and he cant flatten when running the arc. I think his best future lies in gaining 15 lbs of muscle and becoming a run stopping end. He doesnt have the tools to become a good pass rusher.
@@tpatrick6902lmao he had 11.5 sacks in an off year literally saved our season vs the redskins in his rookie year lol wtf is wrong w u people
@@smfh_ owner of the lowest pass rush win rate of ALL pass rushers in the NFL.
And for the ones who are challenged because they LOL when they should be reading... He gets blocked more than any other pass rusher in the NFL and supplies less pressure than every pass rusher in the NFL Thibideaux played and the NFL and PFF were watching and recording. You dont like the evidence while wondering wtf is wrong with everone, take it up with them. They do the official record keeping.
@@smfh_you need to look at the numbers more critically. 11.5 sacks looks good on paper but who he actually got those sacks against can say a lot. A lot of coverage sacks and qbs stepping up right into him. Yes he still had some solid sacks but majority of the time he disappears or inflates his stats against bad O-Lines/QBs
Im a Giants fan and just physically I can't ever see him being a Dexter level player because he just doesn't have that size and strength like those top 270 pound or so edges like Garrett or Bosa and his getoff is his best tool but being filled out at about 255 it's not the level where he is elite at a position where athletecism is such a big piece. I expect him to get more consistent and be a 15-20 best edge in the league high end 2 maybe lower end 1 or he will stay more inconsistent with flashes how he was last year. Two trajectories he could follow imo just depends on progress
MAYBE he could be a borderline top 10 edge but I just don't see run d ever being a huge strength of his which knocks him down a little imo. Definetly has the ability to beat up on bad tackles, have even matchups with solid-good tackles but I see him pretty much getting shut out his whole career by Trent, Lane Johnson, Tyron Smith, Andrew Thomas, Penei Sewell, etc guys the really great or elite level tackles with high end prototype physical tools. That is the type of player he can be
He has some Von Miller/Micah Parsons to him. Sure he won't have that Nick Bosa or Myles Garrett strength, but he has legit upside in pass rushing. Let's see what he develops into in yr 3
@The_Football_Scout Fair. If there is a mold for him to be elite it is in that direction and like I said his getoff is his best trait. He's not nearly as bendy as Von and Micah just has even more explosion and speed when he flys down the arc. I hope he becomes the best player he can be for us. My point is I just see his potential as a really good or great player and not an elite player
How will we afford him and burns and then Nabers?
Pay Burns now, Thib in 2 yrs and Nabers in 5 years. You guys will make it work.
@@The_Football_Scout Nabers contract will be record shattering. Maybe thib wont need nearly as much as this guy is projecting him to beed
Pls learn ball this was a bit rough of a watch
Thibs pash rush win rate DROPPED from 9.5% in 22 to 6.4% in 23. Not worth a top 10 draft pick for sure
Just because it hasn't worked yet, doesn't mean it won't. He has really good pass rush, at some point it's going to click and he's going to become really good
Thibs is not even ranked in the top 20 edge in the nfl
Giants: 6 top 10 draft picks in 10 years. NOT 1 been consistently great. Even YOU and I could draft better with a dart board. LOL.
I mean I know what you mean, but Odell when he was on the Giants, Dexter Lawrence, Andrew Thomas, and Saquon are all amazing players?
@@jonathanlowenthal5758 I said top 10. OBJ and dex not picked top 10. Saquon was always injured and missed too many games. Thomas had an average 2023 with injury. Basically ONLY Dex can be considered a great pick out of DOZENS OF PICKS! lol. Just embarrassing
No he doesn’t - watch more film . He disappears for 7-8 games and when you’re blocked by Jalen hurts you ain’t the guy - he’s a good player never will be elite
Every video of you do is how someone is going to be great - or how someone is in fact a lot better than people think. Do you ever make videos that takes the opposite angle? Like, how someone is going to bust - or how someone is in fact a lot worse than people think?
I've done videos on guys that are Tier 2/Role players. Not for the Giants. The Giants videos have mainly been focused on the first rd picks the past few years
Bro fair weather!!! Not to good at the run
Which is what he has to improve on
Top five defensive end!?
I seriously doubt it!! He needs to concentrate on being consistent.
Go Giants!!
Most of these people he beat or tight end or back up OLine LMFAO
You saying it like they’re regular ppl , he beat all NFL players that were lined up against him at the time 😂 yall critique as if you played a down with pros , sit back & watch him elevate his game 🤡
Yup, Thibs is average at best
As a Giants fan, no he doesnt
bust