You can tell that he really knew his stuff on a deep technical level, but he was able to explain concepts in ways that were entertaining enough to be memorable. Very hard work, all in all. Thanks a lot for posting, Dave. This video deserves internet permanence.
this is a lecture style that i recall from childhood when teachers would teach with attitude and charisma. great presentation and funny to boot, plus a cigarette!
I originally saw this video in the US Air Force back in 1990 or 1991 as part of our ESD training. This is one of the most informative and entertaining trainings I've ever sat through. It has stuck with me all these years and I've quoted this man many times on bits and pieces of the data he explained. I've been looking for this video for at least the last 15 years. So happy to finally be able to re-watch it. Thanks EEVblog2 for uploading it.
Wow, you can tell it's the 80's with the attitudes. But he is a really engaging presenter; I loved that video and I learned a lot. Thanks so much for sharing that, Dave.
This is great... I was fortunate enough to receive a lecture from Dan in person. The electronics company I worked for in the early 80's (South Australia), had Dan and a sidekick come to lecture on the topic. The delivery was no less sparkling! I recall him telling a story about working in a stores department as a young man, dipping dusty plastic bottles in detergent to clean them and neglecting to rinse them to save some time to go for a smoke., and finding they didn't get as dusty as the ones he had rinsed... :)
My old Chief Engineer always gave the new engineers their orientation seminar. He used the same colorful non-P.C. language that he used in the 70's. The higher ups cringed every time he spoke with customers. However, the customers loved him as much as we did.
wow, you can really tell this presentation is from another time and place - the information is still extremely valid, well explained, and presenter's charisma is undeniable; but, oh my, could you not give this talk in the same way at any conference today.
What a legend. Born to teach. Thanks for posting. All my component stock, (30+ yrs worth), are in the wrong containers then! Mostly what they were shipped in. Oh crap.
This is fantastic! I was a young guy in Southern California learning all I could about electronics in the 60s, so all of the references he throws-in are familiar and funny. I don't know who owns this video but it would be good to make a shorter edited version for the rest of the world who has no familiarity of the references. This is like a PHD course in Static Electricity and its effects, taught by the "educated son" of "Foghorn Leghorn". The best way to avoid ESD issues is not to have any static electric voltage differences, which can easily be accomplished by careful planning and habits. For example: as mentioned numerous times in this presentation, the major source of Static Electric Charge for people is the floor they walk on. Use a static dissipative material for the floor and 95% of the problem never happens. After designing and building a number of electronic production facilities and labs, I found a great answer. There are several companies which sell conductive floor tiles, but in the late 70s they were $5 to $10 for each 12" x 12" tile, required grounding foil / wires underneath and special conductive adhesive. These all were embedded with conductive powder (carbon, aluminum, etc.). I accidentally found that the cheapest floor tile made by Armstrong solved the problem at $0.99 each. The low price was due to the fact that it was, by far, the most widely used floor tile in the US. It was easy to install and very durable. It was also Static Dissipative! I never understood why until Dan explained in the video how the pink plastic actually works. Moisture. These tiles would absorb moisture, so to ensure a clean, long lasting floor, they had to be sealed, then waxed as desired. About every 6 months, they needed to be resealed because the moisture seal would be worn away. Thanks for posting this.
I grew up in North Texas (as a Northern transplant), and this guy gave me a real shot of nostalgia for the old local "native Texan" teachers I had. We really had teachers juat like this. It was amazing.
@@DrewskisBrews didn't hurt one bit? Or did it. These people would have ate their shirt at the pc crap we have today. In france killing a teacher for showing something a minority does not agree with is now completely reality. The local mosque decides to organize a hate campaign eventually leading to the murder of a history teacher.
@@MrJob91I don't know the story of what happened in France. I would not excuse genuine ill will. At the same time, teachers are not automatons. But in general, I'm referring to the occasional innuendo as much as anything.
I work for a harsh environment connector company, and we just received a customer order where on their PO, they had a requirement that pink antistatic poly could not be used in the packaging or come into contact with any of the parts at any time of their production. They are a satellite manufacturer and apparently there is a problem with outgassing and/or contamination from that stuff. Learn something new every day!
I'm not sure what it says about me that I found this not only incredible informative and equally entertaining, but I don't care. I'll be looking for other videos featuring Mr. Anderson now.
44:10 Ah, the dreaded pink bags. At my last job, we used optical silicones, and it took us the longest time to figure out the stuff they add to the pink bags to make it static dissipative actually poisons the silicone when you put the electronics its attached to into it.
My most memorable encounter with ESD: I had received in a tape-storage robot shipped from a datacenter in London, England to my facility in Dallas, TX. The numbskulls wrapped it in about 20-30 layers of plain, clear bubble-wrap. This made it into essentially a huge capacitor with a tribo-electric self charging mechanism. When I finally got through the wrap and made contact with the metal inside, while standing on raised flooring (which is metal tiles filled with cement on a metal framework that's bonded to ground) The resulting discharge knocked me clean onto my ass. I've taken zaps before, even accidentally discharged a CRT. That was all nothing compared to that bubble-wrap static bomb.
Still very interesting even in 2020, that says a lot not only for the product and technics used but also the man himself and his abilities to get his point across. Edit: Does the host remind anyone of S.R. Hadden in Contact lol
How deliver the knowledge that is not easy for a lot of people in a way that everybody wants to keep listening. Something that in this age will be banned for life cause it is not "political correct" crap. Full of reference to things that happen to everybody. Super nice, I wish all my professors would have been as engaging as this presenter, btw only a few were.
Fantastic presentation. Makes me wonder what, if anything, significant we've learned in the industry of ESD protection in the 40 years since this talk. (Also, good lord. It's been FORTY YEARS since 1980!? How on earth did that happen?) Also, in some space applications, "pink" plastics wouldn't always work because a vacuum destroys the moisture layer. Makes me wonder what the physics of, say, docking a spacecraft with the ISS involves with regards to safely discharging any difference between the two structures.
Aha, Lecturer lights up in front of auditorium full of Students, memories of engineering degree in late eighties. Oh the Memories, in my case the lecturer would say "If you've got them smoke them fellas "
@@rarbiart I disagree, we lost something, Bob Widlar wouldn't get anywhere these days. People of your view want innovators to conform. Curious how this never extends to Steve Jobs.
@@sanityd1 his jokes were on large parts upon minorities and his view of women. forcing people to stop jokes on gender stereotypes is not a bad thing at all. "keeping the male audience entertained" is not a valid reason for making such a performance.
I've worked with guys like him and have learned so much from them, people of his ilk are the best teachers because their enthusiasm for the subject is contagious.
Haha, very entertaining way of educating the masses. I've just implemented a 61340-5-1 compliant ESD Control Program in a Medical Device company and that was as fun as zapping your nuts with a ESD gun 🤣
Sam, Dan was as unique as they come. He was a Magician and had a magical personality. He was a member at the Magic Castle in Hollywood. He found his niche not many do. RIP Dan, left us way too soon.
@@samuelschwager He had many titles and even may have worked with special area of law enforcement. Seriously, Dan was the man from A to Z. He could keep a group entertained for hours. I will never forget Dan.
1 important note here. Some people may make insinuating comments about Dan's speech and currently not PC various biases. Those were Dr. Strangelove times (heavily toxic for womxn) when a man was James Bond and a womxn was Marilyn, Jane, Brigitte and Sophia all rolled into 1..only 2 sexes and MAiNly 2 genders, STIFLING for all those mosaics that were hidden. Science has revealed the concealment of our mosaics in DNA, (read Gender Mosaic book) bit more complicated now I'd surmise. Dan would be befuddled, kerfuffled and bedeviled in today's world maybe even anachronistic. His was a man's world back then and he acted like archetypal man, simple as that. Charming, igniting, invigorating, witty and smart and most important..he was a SALESMXN, oldest profession around..we're all out there selling and he sold millions upon millions of pink bags. Now it's pink salt, pink hair, peptal abysmal..pink for a reason. When in Rome..
Can we post this to the Wikipedia page on ESD, as it's the be all explanation? And straight from the horse's mouth to boot, no need for a reference he IS the source... Great video, thanks for sharing Dave!
I love these kind of tech talks. I watch a lot of them from The Royal Institution. This guy had some old humor but if your not a sensitive type its really informative. Gonna have to remember that employees only one.. but it doesn't say what employees. So if you've got a job somewhere go on in, lol. Note.. of course i'm not going to do that, but its still funny.
"I smoke these because I don't wanna die of nothing." Haha, this guy is great! Interesting and informative. Thanks Dave!
that was the best introduction ... wanna smoke and talk about clean rooms
It's quite amazing that a lecture about ESD bags can be so entertaining.
And so long.
This is one of the best lecture i ever saw
"Electronics are not sensitive to electrostatics but they are damaged by electrostatic discharge"
You can tell that he really knew his stuff on a deep technical level, but he was able to explain concepts in ways that were entertaining enough to be memorable. Very hard work, all in all. Thanks a lot for posting, Dave. This video deserves internet permanence.
I'm guessing he had been honing it for nearly 20 years.
this is a lecture style that i recall from childhood when teachers would teach with attitude and charisma. great presentation and funny to boot, plus a cigarette!
And being PC did not get in the way of humor.
Attitude and charisma, come back a few years later and they've combined into asthma!
Almost as if he was free to think what he wanted.
I originally saw this video in the US Air Force back in 1990 or 1991 as part of our ESD training. This is one of the most informative and entertaining trainings I've ever sat through. It has stuck with me all these years and I've quoted this man many times on bits and pieces of the data he explained. I've been looking for this video for at least the last 15 years. So happy to finally be able to re-watch it. Thanks EEVblog2 for uploading it.
Wow, you can tell it's the 80's with the attitudes. But he is a really engaging presenter; I loved that video and I learned a lot. Thanks so much for sharing that, Dave.
This guy sure knows how to give a presentation and make a seemingly mundane topic pretty darn interesting! Many thanks for sharing.
This is great... I was fortunate enough to receive a lecture from Dan in person. The electronics company I worked for in the early 80's (South Australia), had Dan and a sidekick come to lecture on the topic. The delivery was no less sparkling! I recall him telling a story about working in a stores department as a young man, dipping dusty plastic bottles in detergent to clean them and neglecting to rinse them to save some time to go for a smoke., and finding they didn't get as dusty as the ones he had rinsed... :)
That was 80 minutes well worth watching. If there is more stuff like this, but in other electronics related area, point us towards it.
I'm at 41, and sitting number 3.
My old Chief Engineer always gave the new engineers their orientation seminar. He used the same colorful non-P.C. language that he used in the 70's. The higher ups cringed every time he spoke with customers. However, the customers loved him as much as we did.
Watched 1min, he talks like a stand-up comedian. Fantastic delivery, with a continuous "punchline" delivery. Thanks for uploading this 🙂
That´s a gem like TH-cam was known for in the past. Thanks for sharing :-)
wow, you can really tell this presentation is from another time and place - the information is still extremely valid, well explained, and presenter's charisma is undeniable; but, oh my, could you not give this talk in the same way at any conference today.
I miss people like this... What a great speaker.
What a legend. Born to teach. Thanks for posting. All my component stock, (30+ yrs worth), are in the wrong containers then! Mostly what they were shipped in. Oh crap.
Not one soul got his nylon intimate barrier joke. I’d have loved to have that guy as a mentor he’s a real character.
Guaranteed to get deplatformed from any speaking event today! Not one F given if you are offended.
People speaking publicly like this are truly missed by younger generations
@@EEVblog2 all the special snowflakes can go F themselves
@@TMS5100 Someone seems offended here...
This is fantastic! I was a young guy in Southern California learning all I could about electronics in the 60s, so all of the references he throws-in are familiar and funny. I don't know who owns this video but it would be good to make a shorter edited version for the rest of the world who has no familiarity of the references. This is like a PHD course in Static Electricity and its effects, taught by the "educated son" of "Foghorn Leghorn".
The best way to avoid ESD issues is not to have any static electric voltage differences, which can easily be accomplished by careful planning and habits. For example: as mentioned numerous times in this presentation, the major source of Static Electric Charge for people is the floor they walk on. Use a static dissipative material for the floor and 95% of the problem never happens. After designing and building a number of electronic production facilities and labs, I found a great answer. There are several companies which sell conductive floor tiles, but in the late 70s they were $5 to $10 for each 12" x 12" tile, required grounding foil / wires underneath and special conductive adhesive. These all were embedded with conductive powder (carbon, aluminum, etc.). I accidentally found that the cheapest floor tile made by Armstrong solved the problem at $0.99 each. The low price was due to the fact that it was, by far, the most widely used floor tile in the US. It was easy to install and very durable. It was also Static Dissipative! I never understood why until Dan explained in the video how the pink plastic actually works. Moisture. These tiles would absorb moisture, so to ensure a clean, long lasting floor, they had to be sealed, then waxed as desired. About every 6 months, they needed to be resealed because the moisture seal would be worn away.
Thanks for posting this.
If I get some time after the lab move I might try and do an edited down version
I never thought a talk about Pink ESD bags will be this interesting.
This guy is the definitive engaging speaker.
I hope this will be well archived for future generations, because this is true gem
Absolutely one of the best things i have watched in ages! thank you
I grew up in North Texas (as a Northern transplant), and this guy gave me a real shot of nostalgia for the old local "native Texan" teachers I had. We really had teachers juat like this. It was amazing.
I had teachers that pegged the "inappropriate" meter needle in the 1990's
@@DrewskisBrews didn't hurt one bit? Or did it. These people would have ate their shirt at the pc crap we have today. In france killing a teacher for showing something a minority does not agree with is now completely reality. The local mosque decides to organize a hate campaign eventually leading to the murder of a history teacher.
@@MrJob91I don't know the story of what happened in France. I would not excuse genuine ill will. At the same time, teachers are not automatons. But in general, I'm referring to the occasional innuendo as much as anything.
I work for a harsh environment connector company, and we just received a customer order where on their PO, they had a requirement that pink antistatic poly could not be used in the packaging or come into contact with any of the parts at any time of their production. They are a satellite manufacturer and apparently there is a problem with outgassing and/or contamination from that stuff. Learn something new every day!
That is interesting. What do they use instead?
I guess they are really screwed, then.
This is true! Was first discovered by Matsushita (panasonic) which shipped all their semi's in aluminium foil.
@@MM-lv8ib Yes, components destined for space use come wrapped in aluminium foil or stainless steel envelopes which are as sharp as razor blades.
Has to be the best presentation that ever watched on this subject !
I'm not sure what it says about me that I found this not only incredible informative and equally entertaining, but I don't care. I'll be looking for other videos featuring Mr. Anderson now.
"The defecation struck the impeller". 😆
im going to start using this
Very interesting, thanks for sharing it.
Holly S**t
That was insanely good. Thanks for sharing it Dave.
What a character, and to explain it in a way even a child can understand?
"valves which is a better term", can't argue with that.
Yep.
"That's pink for a damn good reason."
Good video 👍 the old videos are always interesting to look back at the beginnings of things back in the day
Couldn't stop watching this guy!amazing explanation. Thanks for sharing :)
I like how he integrated the ashes into his demonstration.
Very informative. This guy really knows his stuff.
Big Clive would love that handheld ionizer.
Great video, more folk need to see this. it's still valid years later.
Awesome. And a good reminder not to get lackadaisical about static .
I think Louis should watch that one, especially the hole in gate oxide part.
Oh man, this was fun to listen to. This guy definitely has a way with words.
44:10 Ah, the dreaded pink bags. At my last job, we used optical silicones, and it took us the longest time to figure out the stuff they add to the pink bags to make it static dissipative actually poisons the silicone when you put the electronics its attached to into it.
The weirdest thing - i slept like a baby ...his voice has this hypnotic soothing qualitay
My most memorable encounter with ESD:
I had received in a tape-storage robot shipped from a datacenter in London, England to my facility in Dallas, TX.
The numbskulls wrapped it in about 20-30 layers of plain, clear bubble-wrap. This made it into essentially a huge capacitor with a tribo-electric self charging mechanism.
When I finally got through the wrap and made contact with the metal inside, while standing on raised flooring (which is metal tiles filled with cement on a metal framework that's bonded to ground) The resulting discharge knocked me clean onto my ass.
I've taken zaps before, even accidentally discharged a CRT. That was all nothing compared to that bubble-wrap static bomb.
Still very interesting even in 2020, that says a lot not only for the product and technics used but also the man himself and his abilities to get his point across. Edit: Does the host remind anyone of S.R. Hadden in Contact lol
He does look like s r Hadden
What a character! Anderson Effects Inc. was dissolved in 1999.
So very interesting. Thanks for posting.
How deliver the knowledge that is not easy for a lot of people in a way that everybody wants to keep listening. Something that in this age will be banned for life cause it is not "political correct" crap. Full of reference to things that happen to everybody.
Super nice, I wish all my professors would have been as engaging as this presenter, btw only a few were.
Yes, he's a very good sales person.....
Fantastic presentation. Makes me wonder what, if anything, significant we've learned in the industry of ESD protection in the 40 years since this talk. (Also, good lord. It's been FORTY YEARS since 1980!? How on earth did that happen?) Also, in some space applications, "pink" plastics wouldn't always work because a vacuum destroys the moisture layer. Makes me wonder what the physics of, say, docking a spacecraft with the ISS involves with regards to safely discharging any difference between the two structures.
Is this guy a Bond villan?
Does anybody have more stuff of this guy? Fascinating talk from an interesting dude for sure...
What a gem, thanks Dave!
Aha, Lecturer lights up in front of auditorium full of Students, memories of engineering degree in late eighties. Oh the Memories, in my case the lecturer would say "If you've got them smoke them fellas "
yep, I remember " it ya got em smoke em "
Awesome share, Dave. Thanks!
Where did all these characters go?
These days we have in general personality free zones...
his jokes are >50% cringeworthy, at best... toxic males like this did disappear for good reason.
@@rarbiart I disagree, we lost something, Bob Widlar wouldn't get anywhere these days. People of your view want innovators to conform. Curious how this never extends to Steve Jobs.
@@sanityd1 his jokes were on large parts upon minorities and his view of women. forcing people to stop jokes on gender stereotypes is not a bad thing at all.
"keeping the male audience entertained" is not a valid reason for making such a performance.
Damn, this guy is an incredible public speaker!
love it, hey dave, this should be on archive.org as well, it needs to be preserved :)
This was really cool!
Great video! Thanks for sharing this....
He looks like Hadden from the movie Contact!
Yes!
Why have one Hadden when you can have two for twice the price?
Got my attention at the cigarette gag - at work at them moment so will watch this very interesting lecture when I am home later today.
They don't make them like that anymore. 😎 What a cool cat.
I've worked with guys like him and have learned so much from them, people of his ilk are the best teachers because their enthusiasm for the subject is contagious.
thats a cool way to explain many of these concepts, thanks for sharing Mr Jones.
Haha, very entertaining way of educating the masses. I've just implemented a 61340-5-1 compliant ESD Control Program in a Medical Device company and that was as fun as zapping your nuts with a ESD gun 🤣
"the best way to get rid of enemy submarines is to boil the ocean" He could have been a stand-up comedian :P
Sam, Dan was as unique as they come. He was a Magician and had a magical personality. He was a member at the Magic Castle in Hollywood.
He found his niche not many do.
RIP Dan, left us way too soon.
@@Uxoriously He does seem like a very cool guy indeed.
@@samuelschwager He had many titles and even may have worked with special area of law enforcement.
Seriously, Dan was the man from A to Z.
He could keep a group entertained for hours. I will never forget Dan.
1 important note here.
Some people may make insinuating comments about Dan's speech and currently not PC various biases.
Those were Dr. Strangelove times (heavily toxic for womxn) when a man was James Bond and a womxn was Marilyn, Jane, Brigitte and Sophia all rolled into 1..only 2 sexes and MAiNly 2 genders, STIFLING for all those mosaics that were hidden.
Science has revealed the concealment of our mosaics in DNA, (read Gender Mosaic book) bit more complicated now I'd surmise. Dan would be befuddled, kerfuffled and bedeviled in today's world maybe even anachronistic. His was a man's world back then and he acted like archetypal man, simple as that. Charming, igniting, invigorating, witty and smart and most important..he was a SALESMXN, oldest profession around..we're all out there selling and he sold millions upon millions of pink bags. Now it's pink salt, pink hair, peptal abysmal..pink for a reason.
When in Rome..
Dan seems to be the type of engineer Cave Johnson would hire as a department head.
“I used to think a resistor was a shy girl”
He’s great. Very to the point. :)
Wow great video
A great video
oooo learned lots of new things. likely i had forgotten most of it
I'm sure he is a friend of Dr Zoidberg too.
44:31
All the video is a gem.
A splendid presentation. Ron W4BIN
How come my company's ESD training feels like reading the phone book in comparison...?
Smoking inside, was truly savage times back then.
As long as you didn't smoke by the final clean tank next to the paraxylene chamber you were good.
Delightfull !
Can we post this to the Wikipedia page on ESD, as it's the be all explanation? And straight from the horse's mouth to boot, no need for a reference he IS the source...
Great video, thanks for sharing Dave!
Go for it!
@@EEVblog2 Maybe. Wikipedia mentions "Let me Abos go loose, Lou..." in its "Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport" listing.
was that a talk about ESD? or Standup comedy for nerds?!
@Santa Clause I see what you did there.
I think the correct answer is 'yes'
This guy has to be David Brent’s dad, only thing he didn’t do was “ go home to get it ” . Fantastic !
I love these kind of tech talks. I watch a lot of them from The Royal Institution. This guy had some old humor but if your not a sensitive type its really informative.
Gonna have to remember that employees only one.. but it doesn't say what employees. So if you've got a job somewhere go on in, lol.
Note.. of course i'm not going to do that, but its still funny.
I find this humour refreshing as we"ve lost so much to pc culture for so many years already.
"she would promptly give me a fat lip in instant retaliation because she knows Kung-Fu and Karate and serveral other chinese words"
THE OLD DAYS WHEN A SMOKE COULD LAY THER FOR MORE THAN 20 SECONDS AND NOT HAVE GONE OUT :)
❤
Wow!
I find the casual smoking and casual homophobia truly hilarious, truly a product of a bygone era xD
How was this even homophobic xD
@@mzflighter6905 Holy smokes! I thought he _is_ one. lulz
Jokes are now exactly the same as your honest opinion, no room for error.
I miss the society that produced this
This guy is more like a religious preacher or a stand-up comedian who's lucky enough to take what's under his feet. :)
It is like boy-boy, girl-girl; except in Hollywood.
Here is another ESD video: th-cam.com/video/2sSqzLPMb4s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=WyK5jPazkC6tKC9_
Repair shops don't believe in ESD.
THIS GUY CAN TALK SMOOTH LOVE SOME ONE WHO KNOWS HIS SHIT
Very funny guy, these people make you learn and you don't even realise you are learning as it is fun.
Itbwill be better ifbyou can add subtitles for it😣
The telling is way more interesting than the content. :-D
"This'll fit Vietnamese anorexics or Arnold Schwarzenegger" 😂😂
Seemed like the audience wasn't getting his one liners until "pulling down 500 a week".
ay, there's the rub
Hahaha - thanks! Good one. Made my day!
Anyone else stay in a hotel where they have shaving mirrors mounted over the bed? 🤣
I thought it was Professor Farnsworth :)
Dude was warning us about the dangers of talcum powder use for human bodies loooong before "it was known" :/
Ending the video with TV Snow (aka static signal) seems like an intentional joke.