Just a tad more info: at the upper dead end at, just before, siding lookout you will notice on the right hand side a cleared area. This was the original dead end but because a train had crashed into the buffer (injuring 15 persons) the dead end was changed giving the track a gradient to assist in stopping the trains. The first trains only had reverse on the engines and wood braking blocks to stop so the gradient change was warranted.
Thanks for the video, I enjoyed walking this track too. Another old rail line that has been (partially) converted into a walk is the Box Vale Walking Track at Woodlands in the Southern Highlands. Quite a few cuttings, embankments, and a tunnel for the colliery that was there.
Great background info and footage. If I might comment on your overlay of the 19th century 'bottom points' photo with the present day footage, early in the vid. These old photos invariably distort the actual depth and width of field. The original 'Up' line from bottom points passed above and along the line of the present day cutting, where it crosses the GWH. The 'Down' line did not pass thru a deep cutting as depicted in this immediate location. However, as can be seen from the old photo, the Up line went thru its own cutting in that same location, all of which would have been removed back to road level for the first new line of hwy in the early 20th century. The original Down side line was more along the line of the edge of the existing hwy off-road at this point, but at a lower level to the pictured Up line cutting and also perhaps lower than the present off-road itself. 'Six Maps' aerial photography from 1943 provides a very clear perspective of these historical features.
@@GrahamClarkeQVP Yes, I did not use specifically correct 'railway' terminology. I was simply referring to the direction of the track going up or down the hill when viewed from the 'bottom points'.
As per your map on the left coming towards the bridge there is a cutting to the edge of the ravine can only put it down for access to build the bridge piers Did you walk pass the water towers to the east end of the tunnel entrance a lot of cutting There is a good photo of a train hanging over the cliff at top points When you come out of the road at the airbase opposite there you can see some of the cutting on the side of the highway the cutting was part fill in to widen the highway in the seventies I walk the dog around here alot
Hey, thanks for the comment. We did not follow the cutting past the water tower as we were only covering the Zigzag. As you say, that cutting goes to the eastern end of the Lapstone Deviation Tunnel that made the Zigzag obsolete, so we did not go there for this video. We covered the Lapstone Deviation Tunnel in an earlier video. I have the history of the train crash at Top Points but no photo and Jeff Coulton (Comment below) adds more the the story. The cutting on the side of the highway is shown at the end of this video.
@@GrahamClarkeQVP Were you came out over looking the highway with you go up the highway further near the Mount st exit you will see one side of a cutting that was part of the original zig zag heading towards Glenbrook
@@gordonshearston7590 Ah, yes. I can just see it on Google Maps Street View. We thought the Highway probably covered it over. But that's much like the cutting east of the exit from the highway to Lapstone. Good spotting.
I don't have any facts but I feel there was not enough room to swap the loco over. Also, loco's were quite expensive so a loco at both ends, for such a short section, was not considered either.
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Just a tad more info: at the upper dead end at, just before, siding lookout you will notice on the right hand side a cleared area. This was the original dead end but because a train had crashed into the buffer (injuring 15 persons) the dead end was changed giving the track a gradient to assist in stopping the trains. The first trains only had reverse on the engines and wood braking blocks to stop so the gradient change was warranted.
Thank you for a great documentary in my back yard
Thanks for the video, I enjoyed walking this track too.
Another old rail line that has been (partially) converted into a walk is the Box Vale Walking Track at Woodlands in the Southern Highlands. Quite a few cuttings, embankments, and a tunnel for the colliery that was there.
Thanks for sharing.
Seen This In The 60s, And It Reminded me Of Our Rail Line In Scotland That Is Much The Same, It's In Harry Potter Movies, Really Nice.😊
Great background info and footage. If I might comment on your overlay of the 19th century 'bottom points' photo with the present day footage, early in the vid.
These old photos invariably distort the actual depth and width of field.
The original 'Up' line from bottom points passed above and along the line of the present day cutting, where it crosses the GWH. The 'Down' line did not pass thru a deep cutting as depicted in this immediate location. However, as can be seen from the old photo, the Up line went thru its own cutting in that same location, all of which would have been removed back to road level for the first new line of hwy in the early 20th century. The original Down side line was more along the line of the edge of the existing hwy off-road at this point, but at a lower level to the pictured Up line cutting and also perhaps lower than the present off-road itself.
'Six Maps' aerial photography from 1943 provides a very clear perspective of these historical features.
You confuse me with 'up' and 'down' lines. There was only one rail track for both up and down trains.
@@GrahamClarkeQVP Yes, I did not use specifically correct 'railway' terminology. I was simply referring to the direction of the track going up or down the hill when viewed from the 'bottom points'.
Enjoyed the two videos but the train sounds on repeat were really annoying.
You noticed. Sorry about that, but I was going for the effect rather than the reality. Which is contrary to the story that is real.
That was great.
Is it now a walking/cycling path?
Yes, it is.
As per your map on the left coming towards the bridge there is a cutting to the edge of the ravine can only put it down for access to build the bridge piers Did you walk pass the water towers to the east end of the tunnel entrance a lot of cutting There is a good photo of a train hanging over the cliff at top points When you come out of the road at the airbase opposite there you can see some of the cutting on the side of the highway the cutting was part fill in to widen the highway in the seventies I walk the dog around here alot
Hey, thanks for the comment. We did not follow the cutting past the water tower as we were only covering the Zigzag. As you say, that cutting goes to the eastern end of the Lapstone Deviation Tunnel that made the Zigzag obsolete, so we did not go there for this video. We covered the Lapstone Deviation Tunnel in an earlier video. I have the history of the train crash at Top Points but no photo and Jeff Coulton (Comment below) adds more the the story. The cutting on the side of the highway is shown at the end of this video.
@@GrahamClarkeQVP Were you came out over looking the highway with you go up the highway further near the Mount st exit you will see one side of a cutting that was part of the original zig zag heading towards Glenbrook
@@gordonshearston7590 Ah, yes. I can just see it on Google Maps Street View. We thought the Highway probably covered it over. But that's much like the cutting east of the exit from the highway to Lapstone. Good spotting.
Did the locomotives run around the train at the bottom and top dead-ends, or was the loco always on the back of the train on the middle leg?
I don't have any facts but I feel there was not enough room to swap the loco over. Also, loco's were quite expensive so a loco at both ends, for such a short section, was not considered either.
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"...I feel there was not enough room to swap the loco over."
Yes, that was my impression too, hence my question.