How to do watch timing adjustment - regulation.
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- A video on how to adjust the timing regulation of a automatic wrist watch. Carried out on a Seiko 5. The cheapest bargain high end (ticks all the boxes of being high end) watch you can get for under $100.
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One of the best no BS videos on this particular topic. Takes away the fear from most people to open up their watch and doing minor corrections.
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"No BS video"? What on EARTH are you talking about?? The guy took literally five seconds worth of the video right at the end to show it actually being done, supposedly, and i didn't see a single thing that was moved or adjusted in the slightest at all. This was entirely useless. I mean, the guy didnt even perform an adjustment, and you call this a "no-BS video? Huh?
Is that a joke? I'm over halfway through and he's literally said nothing yet lol I'm actually pissed
I had a new Seiko 5 which was running about six seconds a day slow. I thought I can do better than that. I just didn't realise how fine the adjustment is. First attempt was gaining a couple of minutes a day, second attempt loosing about thirty seconds a day, after several goes and by more luck than judgement, I've got it to less than two seconds a day. On the last couple of adjustments I just put pressure on the lever and couldn't tell if it had moved or not, but it must have as the timekeeping got better. One thing I've learned is, I'm not a watchmaker. :-)
+Jim Prong Well done :)
same here, Seiko 5, 4 tries, now within 2 secs @ day. this is well within the range from which i can store the watch overnight and bring it back to near zero by the morning. sweeet!
Jim Prong ok
Thanks to the OP for the video, which I know is an older one. I have a similar story. I had a spot on diver and did something I've never done while putting on my watch in 40 years... It slipped and I dropped in three feet onto my dressing room floor. I was really mad at myself for being a ham fisted idiot and my watch adjusted itself to -5 SPD. Still not bad but my stupidity bugged me (plus these are expensive divers we are told can hold up to diving, snorkling, doing scuba and the rest of it and shouldn't be that easy to put out the movement). So I had the tools to regulate the watch but not to measure the results with a timegrapher. This video gave me the basics and I had a go. Trial and error and luck. The regulator pointer was super sensitive and I ping ponged between 20 seconds ahead an hour to the same behind before making tiny tiny tiny naked to the eye adjustments to the regulator. So with patience and a great deal of luck its now back spot on. So, at the end of this my advise is to move the pointer as small as possible. You may not even see how far you have moved it but it will be worth it.
If your watch is running 6 seconds slow a day, does that mean that on the dawn of the third day, it will be 12 seconds behind ?
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video. You probably saved me +/-$100.00 USD or so for not having to send my watch in for an overhaul.
Cheers
Capt. M. B. Miller
Hi, your video allowed me to correct my Jargar simple A458 movement from +12 seconds per hour inaccuracy to about +1 sec per hour. Thanks so much! Stephen
+Chaviva Lief Awesome ;) Nice watch
the other lever is for beat error which regulates the time between beats. There's no way to accurately know if your watch is out of beat unless you have a timegrapher...or a very good ear. Beat error is the difference in time it takes for the balance to swing one way compared to the other. In a perfectly tuned watch with no beat error the amount to time between beats will be exactly equal. This essentially twists the hairspring collet on the balance staff.
Thank you. I am actually trying to adjust the exact same watch you have in the video.
I wanted to know how far to move the pointer but I can see from the comments that it has to be tiny adjustments.
Bought a used SNZG13 (great watch, BTW), and it was running way too fast (+2.5 mins/day), and probably the reason the former owner returned it. This video really helped! Man, the slightest touch really causes the watch to increase or decrease. So be aware of that.
Watches run fast when they need demagnetising
I have a really nice Soviet ЧЧЗ "Кама" (Vostok, Chistopol Watch Factory, 3Q-1957) radium dial wristwatch, and it's manual. I couldn't find any videos on how to adjust it. The balance wheel also would stop, unless it was upside down or in constant motion. I found a tiny rotating lever and a tiny screw. I took my chances, and moved the lever, but not the screw. My watch has been running again! First, the stem came out, which I fixed. The retaining screw was loose. Now, I adjusted this tiny lever. I don't know if it's on time yet, but it's running again! Thank you very much! 👍
Thanks, gonna try this soon. I got a beat tracker app for my phone too to confirm my notes. I'm running 200 seconds/day fast now after a few weeks of wear-in. Hopefully I can use my phone to check my adjustments and get it better first try.
Thanks for the tip of not adjusting the big one and confirming this was exactly what those marks were for.
Excellent tutorial. I have an old, mint condition raketa watch that is 4 minutes slow a day. So this one is much needed, gonna fix it soon and update the results later!
Thank you for this! My time was off on mine, now I will be able to adjust it. I will be taking my time correcting it. Currently it’s time advances by +3 every 12 hours. But I am going to work to adjust it over the next few months till I only have to correct it once a year. Thank you again.
absolutely perfect. I have a Seiko 5 SRPE57 that is running very fast. all I needed was the information regarding what to move and which way to move. it. This video answered it exactly and clearly. My Thanks
Nice video but if the BEAT ERROR is wrong you need to adjust the other "thing" below first and then the RATE. It's not dangerous as long as you can measure in some kind of timegraph and for that you can use an iPhone, the microphone on the headphones and Watch Tuner App. Works relly well.
Good info
You can do it without a device also.
If you can let down the mainspring ... the balance will stop. Ideally when the balance is at rest, it's impulse jewel should be pointed directly at the pallet fork pivot. This is where the larger adjustment tab comes in. As you move the tab, the entire balance/mainspring assembly rotates. When the impulse jewel is aligned in the pallet fork when at rest (no power on mainspring) .. that will be very close to a zero beat error.
@@Deploracle priceless advice! I accidentally touched that lever when adjusting the correct one and my watch hasn’t ran correctly since. At least I have a good reference point to start at thanks to you.
Good video. I did this to my Vostok Komandirskie mechanical wind-up watch and got it to within a few seconds a day accuracy. It took many tries because the adjustment has to be in microns, which I could not do.
Bruh. Thank you so much. Your video was straight forward and just simple to comprehend.
I'm never sure of myself with repairs of anything but this video made it very clear that this was an easy adjustment to do as long as youre careful and pay attention. Now hopefully my Undone is slightly more accurate and I didn't have to take it to a repair shop and pay for it.
Much appreciated!
Thank you very much for this very short, very clear, straight to the point video!
Thanks. No other tutorial warned about touching the left adjustment
Question: what are the brass pieces in each lever for? Thanks for the video. It was clear and concise w/out wasted time. I'm a huge fan of getting straight to the point w/out 10 minutes of history. Once I have the right tools I'll have a go at adjusting my Seiko 5. It loses 3-4 minutes each week.
counter balance weights.
@@JDDD33no they're not
Thank you very much! i was able to adjustmy seiko monster (4r36) from -15 to +6 sec per day. I always like to run them rather faster than slower bc then you just have to pull the crown out and wait for a few sec and not ajust the time again. My slow Monster really bother me and i stoped wearing it, wearing my BLNR or my BB58 instead which both are around 1-2+Sec/day. For testing accuracy i used two programms called TG0.5.0 and PCTM_free. These were very helpfull for testing and adjusting the watch.
Thank you so much for the video. My watch was running about minutes fast a day. I didn't know what to do. With your help I'm down to 14 seconds a day. Still a bit but not too bad
Your ace I am new to automatic watches and mine was running 5 mins fast every 2 day now I've watched this sorted thanks very much and great use or the macro lens
You adjusted yourself at home???
@@chirots yes I adjusted the time on my automatic watch and now it's running about 2 seconds fast but near enuff perfect just follow this guys video and you should be fine if your not confident doing this yourself then take it to a watchmakers or a professional who can do this for you.
@@michael1st895 I am confident doing it by myself at home, but I am not sure how to measure the time after each adjustments.
Currently I are using app called watchcheck for a day/ a week measurements.
@@chirots I just left it a day then on my smart phone got the time with the seconds showing as well just to see how it was doing over a day or to currently my omaga is 5 seconds out which I dont think i would get any better but i think over all it's just a matter of checking and adjusting till you hit that sweet spot hope this helps some what
@@chirots also I relatively new to automatic watches so there may be a better way of recording it down I.E the app you mentioned
Thanks again for the video. After getting a decent set of watch tools, and a few adjustments, my Seiko 5 is now keeping good time. Just under a minute fast each week, but much better than 4-6 minutes slow and then fast and then slow again!
Thank you for the uploads. Very clear advice and great quality.
+king arthur Welcme and thanks for watching
I tried now because my seiko 5 watch every 2days they can late 1, minute
the photos really help a lot, it made the explanation very clear. thanks so much
Thanks for that explanation, explained in laymen's terms, such a rarerty these days.
Excellent video! You don't know how much it has served me. I have a question: what tool did you use to remove the back case?
Good video.A nice and simple explanation, straight to the point.
Absolutely best and helpful video in this topic, thank you sir . But it is too late for me , because I touched big one that you are warned not to touch , in order to regulate beat error , now hair spring is gone and my watch stopped. I hope that you have a video to fix it 😢
Nice and easy! Thanks for keeping it simple! Best how to I could find
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Great video sir, thank you for sharing this with us all! I'm curious to know what the best tool or object is, to make these ever so slight adjustments? Is it possible to just use a small, everyday object to do this? Thank you! 😊🙏🏻
Cheers mate - very helpful and easy to follow. I have a Seiko, very cool watch which is now keeping perfect time!
+wishbone57 Awesome
Thanks for watching
Great video sir, thank you! Very simple yet informative, as were your replies to the questions posted in the comments section. You likely saved my hundreds of dollars on my vintage Seiko 5. Thanks again from Jesse in the USA!
Thanks for this great video, I have to regulate a seiko monster 2 who speeds at 5 minutes in an hour... I was thinking to make it service but there's so much pleasure on DIY
Thank you very much. Super simple instructions. May you be well and happy. Legend
You're welcome!
Hi.
I’ve just got into watches. That was a great piece of info, as I am about to attempt the very same thing myself.
Thanks.
would you film how to afjust a eta movement? thanks
Great vid but notice there is a little pointer on the regulator ring to help see how much its moved..
Cheers mate. :)
hello. how much should I move the pin to set the watch. It goes forward 33 minutes in 16 hours
@100332582351409947136 Move the regulator ring pointer to the negative --- side, a tiny amount at a time, it may take a few days or a week to get it right,be very careful not to touch the balance wheel or hair spring....use a loupe ,(magnifying eye glass)
but if the watch is very old and worn it may not be possible to get it accurate at all,wind up or automatic watches are not as accurate as quartz watches.
" It goes forward 33 minutes in 16 hours"
If your watch is running that fast, no amount of adjustment is going to correct it; something is VERY wrong, like inner coils of the hairspring stuck to each other. It needs to be cleaned and demagnetized.
"use a lope"
* loupe.
Just to be clear, you're using the brass thing as a handle to rotate the larger thing it's attached to, not rotating the brass thing within that groove right?
My watch was runing with 3 minutes faster, now runs 10 seconds faster, thanks!
thank you so much for the great tips! I was able to get mine from +11 to +3 with 2 attempts :))
Nice video mate; gave me the courage to have a go. So far I've got it at -6 sec a day after only three prods with a plastic tooth pick (was running at -25 a day) I will stop when I get to approx +5 a day.
I think I finally got it right after several attempt. I was scared to open it at first, thinking I might compramise the integrity of water resistance. I do not have a timegrapher and it is not ecomically wise to buy one for just one watch. Overcome your fear. If you mess it up, oh well, you learned something. I am happy now with my Seiko on the right rhythm. Now, if only I can find a video on how regulate Casio watches.... Any suggestions? Link please.
Did you adjust the gold or silver part? It cuts out at the end? And how much is needed?
small as you can do and I only moved what I said I did
I'm still confused. What moved? Gold or silver? I didn't see it...
Works just fine for el cheapo K&S and Winner brand watches as well. Simple, easy to follow instruction and I'm a yank.
:)
I just got my Hamilton Khaki from -15 to +1! Thank you.
Awesome
I just bought a new one and it's too fast. Should i send it back? Does doing such thing void the warranty?
Thank you, this video was very helpful as I tried to regulate my Seiko Turtle SRPC91 ~ Save the Ocean Blue. My 1st better than a $50.00 Casio (though I have nothing against Casio, inexpense, but worked day and night with no issues. But after the 4th or 5 battery after many years, a new battery didn't work eh, great little watch that Casio.. ) My turtle is just started to really show it's age... though it's only been since 2019. I've regulated (or tried damm hard to) when I first received it, as it was 17 seconds + off each day. Anyways, it's been awhile since I'd been under the hood and your video was helpful to me. God Bless and happy 4th of July 🙂
Thank you this video, I will try it on my watch which runs slow
Only practical video on regulating a mechanical watch I've seen so far. Great video.
My Seiko loses about 5 min a week. How much should I move the adjuster towards the +? Are we talking a hair, or much more?
same issue here...
Thanks for the video! But how do you know how much you need to move it to slow it down in my case.. One of mine are running 15 seconds fast.
Thanks for the video. Do Rolex watches have the same mechanism of speed adjustment?
Thank you so much for giving us a video with a real watch!
I have an old omega seamaster which surprisingly loses under 8 seconds a day and once a week I believe is when it loses a couple of minutes but with some crown adjustment it tells he right time
Awesome 😎 you have a good one
Western Gents United thank you
Oh my god thank you! My SNK809 has been gaining time like nobody’s business, honestly I’ll set it in the morning and by mid afternoon it’s gained 5 minutes. I’m sure this won’t completely fix the issue but it’ll take it from being unbearable to a mild annoyance
Thanks for the close ups! At 1 min, you say not to touch that lever. What is that lever? What happens if you touch it? How do you fix it if you do touch it? I can't seem to get it beating right after bumped it. :(
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I didnt actually see it move when you said "there you go". Is it just a tiny touch? I was expecting the regulatation wheel to move like a clock hand would.
Also, any tips to make sure it stays water proof? Do we have to lube something to make sure there is a water tight seal? Thanks for the vid.
+omar38317 you need to replace the O ring once you open it and yes it's a very tiny movement
You MAY need to replace the O-ring, or you may not; it depends on its condition. But you SHOULD always apply silicone O-ring lubricant to it.
Great mate just what I was looking for "job done" practical advice.
+swingingdodgy Hey Dodgy. I appreciate your comments. It means a lot .
Cheers :)
hey this is a great video I got a Seiko 'Kakume' that's on the up - it's a bit of a frankenstein and running fast so might give this a go. just wondering on what your thought's would be about adjusting speed on a Fortis B-42 and Tag Heuer Aquaracer ?? the Fortis is going fast and the Tag is way slow..
The one you don't want to touch is to correct the beat error which you got to adjust first if you have beat error.
What have you done. You explained what to do but did't show it. What do I have to to on this part. Move the arm or turn the golden piece??
the video stops before i know what to do
search for this video Speed regulating of automatic watch. Slow/fast problem fixing of Seiko automatic watch.
what if my watch run 2 hours faster a day is this gonna fix it? or I need to replace the balance wheel
Thanks mate!! I was having trouble finds something like this for my invicta 8926.
Hey thanks very helpful. I'm going to have a go as my Seiko 5 is running 5-6 min fast a day. But one thing: you say clockwise to slow down, anti-clockwise to speed it up. But the arrows you put in are the opposite.... Is this because you are referring to the FACE of the watch and we're looking at it upside down?
I think the arrows are correct. The arrows on the left side refer to that side of the adjuster where there's a pointer. If you turn the adjuster clockwise, the left side of it moves up. If you turn the adjuster counter-clockwise, the left side moves down.
What type of tool is used for adjustment? Should I get a kit of some kind?
My vintage Bulova runs about 1 minutes fast a day . I don't mind . I just reset it in the morning . If I want a accurate watch I will wear one of my quartz watches . ( When I travel I wear a Timex quartz ) still a good video . Thanks .
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Does this work if second hand is running at 60seconds dead on stopwatch but watch gains 15 minutes per hour
It's fairly intuitive. The + and - are on the balance. Been regulating before there was youtube.
Thank you . I have a Vintage Bulova automatic from 1950 . It is running 1 min fast a day. Maybe I can slow it down .
@@silverghost4206 I'd agree, that's crazy good for an old watch, you'd only really get better from a good service. On that note Anthony, keen to know what you think about regulating a 1950s Omega that is going out by 5 minutes odd over 1 hour? Is that too much to regulate and needs a service? Bought to flip it so I imagine I'll be cutting profits if I have it serviced but its 9K so who knows.
@@silverghost4206 Yeah had a feeling, just wanted to confirm, thanks :)
I think this is a beautifully clear and well explained instructional video, couldn't be more simple, except for those who don't understand the difference between push and turn, which in the circumstances amounts to the same thing, perhaps I would have said SHUVE IT as in 'shuve off' if you don't understand plain English. Well done to our friend from the southern hemisphere for taking the trouble to explain what looks like a daunting task to start with but is pretty straight forward when tackled head on and with your help I managed to get my Seiko 5 Black Hawk from about 2 minutes slow a week, to just a few seconds a week fast. I would add I only had to push that little button just a hairs breadth to make a huge difference. SO from despair to elation, thanks matey!! p.s. I think push is much more appropriate, as turn sounds too purposeful, one could even say a gentle nudge. Oh gee this English language is so complicated, lets all learn American.
Legend 🙌
...I pushed it to the right in order to make it faster. Now watch stopped working. Can it be that it was too much to the right?
Which Seiko movement is best for keeping time accuracy and not losing or gaining seconds between the NH36A and 6R15 Movements.
Yes
I just set my watch the other day, but today the time changes when the second hand hits 3 instead of 12, i think this might be what i need to do to fix it
mmm How is it now
Great. I got my seiko movement back to around +12 seconds a day...Thanks for the video !
Hello i hit the balance wheel acadently while trying to do this and acadently while trying to do this and nog it doesnt move what do I do
Brilliant video. You made it so simple. Thank you
hey, great vid, much easier to see. what should i do if i moved the wrong one by accident? :/
Take a photo before you begin I guess you just have to get it back as best you can. I think it will just put the timing out of whack
You sould possibly mention that moving the level about the width of a human hair will already adjust the deviation by +/-10 seconds per day. That means when you can SEE you have moved it, even the tiniest bit, the watch will already have been adjusted about a whole minute per day.
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Thank you for teaching us this, and for your efforts as well.
Thanks
Thanks for the Video. it was a big help.
Great video. Spot on. Really helped me to try and regulate a Seiko 6r15c. Cheers
What happens if you touch the "do not touch" thingy? I moved it on my watch before I saw that I was not to touch it.
Do you fix watches as well mate?
+psidhu1979 Nah mate.
Mine gains 2.5mins per day, how far would i need to push the lever?
what if i touched the one i shouldnt touch before i watched the video? :)
I made the adjustment on my seiko but nothing happened. The watch is still running quite fast. 10 minutes ahead in 5 minutes
Thanks your video!
Welcome
How do you know how much pressure to put on it
Simple and direct, well done!
Cheers mate
What happens, when you try to adjust the stud holder (that you shouldn't touch)? I need to adjust my watch to go slower, but when I do it with the knob you just showed, it stops ticking when I turn my watches to the vertical position...
As far as I know, it is to adjust the beat error, which is the difference in milliseconds between the two swings of the balance wheel. If you watch a video, which explains the workings of a time graph they talk about it.
You will put the balance out of beat. Then you need a timegrapher to reset it.
Asking for a friend.. what if you neglect to take a photo and touch the one you're not supposed to touch?
Cheers Tommy-O, epic vid bra
Cheers mate, great video! just what i was looking for!
Sweet :)
What if my watch is all the way towards the plus end and still loosing five minutes a day? Should you adjust it so the little arrow is outside of the +/- scale?
No, if your watch is all the way out and still losing time that severely. You are in need of a complete service on your watch. Send it off to a watchmaker and have them refurbish the movement.
Really Great Video.
My NH34A movement is 20 minutes slow a day. How much should I move the lever?
First you have to understand the basics of mechanical adjustments like these. It isn't a computer (getting linear or binary commands), it's finetuning of a lever which reacts "organically" to plus or minus adjustments. Meaning: there isn't a fixed "scale" to work with.
All you can do is this in your case;
-Move the lever a tiny bit to the "+"
-Use the watch as you would normally do for the next 24 hours exactly.
-Note the timedifference / deviation of before/after your adjustment.
-a: it's running faster than should: you've adjusted it too much, move lever a fraction towards "-"
-b: It's still running slower than should (but better), move lever a fraction towards "+" again.
-Repeat: wear it for 24 hours, note if it improved or worsened.
-Repeat until you can not get it running "more exact" than your adjustments. Then you've reached the treshold of what it's capable of.
Then: continue to observe if it keeps running at that "speed" for about a week. Still within "spec"? Congratulations. You've done it.
In other words: it's a finicky process of trial and error.
A gnat's chuff. That's how much !!
Hi, should I wait for watch to stop or can I regulate him while he is moving?
While it’s going is fine
Should this be done in a special dust free environment?
He said it was a practiced watch.
so i touched the part that we don’t touch what happens after that
What happes if the NO touch lever has moved ?
the other lever is the bph beats per hour.. if you turn it clockwise the bph will decrease that will make time accuracy faster.. turn it counter clockwise it will make bph faster that will slow down the time.. but you must maintain the standard bph of each watch's caliber... for example tge 7s26 it has 21,600 bph.. you have to look for the bph.. use the android app called tickoprint.. it is much more advanced.. no need to use laptop..
just use phone..