I am so glad I found this recording and happened to be listening with the headphones I normally use for binaural listening. The binaural cat's purring was absolutely amazing and the highlight of the recording! Very well done. My listening is almost exclusively with headphones. In my experience, and I listen to a lot of binaural audio, the quality of the headphones and audio chain is most critical for binaural work. To put it another way, binaural is the 'acid test' for audio equipment. Sometimes it's quite amazing what equipment and headphones turn out to really present the most accurate reproduction in that it's not always what you think would (or should) be the most best or most accurate.
Sounds fantastic but maybe an ear canal has to be created in the dummy head and the microphone element mounted there to achieve a truer binaural pickup as per the structure of a human ear ? When I used a Sennheiser dummy head system many years ago the microphone elements were actually pointed upwards. These ear pieces could also be used on human heads as earpieces for recording. We used them for radio drama recordings as well as live classical music recordings. Once the binaural fad slowed the unit sat in storage for a number of years until I found it gathering dust and mounted the microphone elements on the sides of a baseball hat. It allowed me to record incognito in public spaces to first a cassette unit and then later to DAT, MD and SD media recorders for sfx use. That allowed me to record ambient crowd sounds (stores, hospitals, factories, restaurants, coffee shops, bus-train, airport terminals, marketplaces, moving vehicles, subways, trains, buses, etc.) without people coming up to me and asking me what I was recording and without always needed to arrange for permission from the management of these locations (which we always had to arrange when using traditional microphones because they confused us with film sound crews). The only disadvantage was that I had to go elsewhere to post listen to what I had captured since wearing closed headphones would give away the fact I was recording and defeat the purpose of the exercise. The sound that was captured (although technically stereo and not binaural) was some of the best moving and static sfx that I ever recorded for radio drama when the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation still produced drama for radio broadcast.
This is my first encounter with binaural, and it's rather fantastic... awesome video! (you should have made a binaural recording of the drilling-through-the-head process, would certainly have freaked me out)
The binaural audio foil thing totally works Crazy well! it is totally behind and in front of me too not just left and right. with my Adam a5x's. But I get close for that, I have them setup where I can sit where my head is basically between them
This is absolutely amazing 🤩 Bit of an out there question, but I was wondering how much would you charge to put together one of these for myself, I know this was constructed for the vid / other ideas you mentioned fir binaural recordings, but I would absolutely love to take one of these of your hands to start my ASMR channel. Please please please let me know Thanks guys for an amazing video, really enjoyed it…Also LOL @ Mark using every other word other than ASMR 🤣😂loved it…”Spooky AICHSBC recording “lool
Awesome episode, guys! The ASMR (aka YMCA, aka BSFA, aka FLOP, 🤣) effect was so convincing, that as I listening through headphones while sitting on my sofa, the sound of Mark’s footsteps made my head turn around, because it sounded just like someone was actually in my living room with me, walking up behind me, from the left. 😳🤯 The realism was a bit spooky, but, also very impressive. Okay…so now I want a dummy head, too… I can’t really think of any practical application for it, but I STILL want one. I suppose that I could always get into producing my own ASMR (aka DOPE, aka WACK, aka BLAM) recordings! 🤣😂
Awesome video, on headphones the rear and above was extremely convincing but the front sound appeared in side my head, rather than in front. The best part was the menacing footage of Mr Floppy! Are you guys trying to depose David Attenborough, in wildlife documentaries?
We have many more hours of FlopCat footage available… :D Interesting that we aren’t the only ones who came to that conclusion - we also thought the front sounded just like “regular” headphones music and wasn’t discernible from the usual. But anything outside of that zone was clear.
It's worth pointing out that the listening volume level can be quite critical to the overall experience. Generally, a lower volume works better. It's not always straightforward finding the optimal listening level between being able to hear everything and being too loud and ruining the effect. It can be the almost subliminal or very quiet sounds in the the recording that provide the most sense of 'feel' or 'environment' to the soundscape. This, again, is why the the audio chain needs to be of the highest quality as inadequacies will distort or ruin the soundscape and therefore the experience.
Hi, great information for making binaural recording gear. Thanks for sharing. My question is that, since the microphones no longer facing forward and are mounted diagonally from the sound source, how much compensation did you have to make (equalization if any) for the microphone's frequency response, if any? Thanks in advance.
Hi there, we didn’t make any adjustments to the audio at all, no compression, no EQ. Any processing only served to somewhat break the psychoacoustic effect. The mics are very good omnidirectional models.
I think you have a pretty good Binaural system there. Would be interesting to record music in different rooms to see what the actual room adds to the sound.
@@PresentDayProduction I have heard some very good audio recordings just from an iphone, it seems room acoustics are key. It would seem that what our ears hear are often quite different from what a mic hears. I Look forward to your experiments.
Hello chaps - hope you're all well. I have followed your splendid suggestion and built my own dummy head complete with silicon ears and the EM272 capsules. Initial tests are pretty impressive but I was just wondering if there are any other tips you might be able to pass on, since you've had yours for a little while. Thank you very much for the idea!
This is a really fun project, thanks for the inspiration. Woudn't it be better to fill the head with some kind of jelly? If you remember "Slime" from our childhood days.
The Cat. Boss! What’s her sound like? I’d be curious to hear how Cat’s hear sound, if that’s even possible? Ps great video and would love to create this. And record onto TCD7 (DAT Machine)
great mate, but you didn't even show how to remove bottom of this head. I just bought the same devices and now I see that your tutorial starts in the middle
I tried it just now with the stock ears ( the other ears are on their way) and i was a little bit disappointed with the result. Does this has to do something with the head being so small? I panned both mics hard left and hard right. is there anything else to do? You mentioned that you were going to compare it with the Neumann. Did you do it already? I just would like to know if the small head has a big disadvantage or not. Thanks a lot!!
Have you guys looked into front-to-back confusion in binaural? In my case, everything recorded in the front translated to the back, and things in the back just sounded MORE clearly in the back. It's a typical limitation of the format and I'd love to hear what you think about it. From research at McGill university, many colleagues doing binaural research as part of their PhD studies, I remember it's one of the hardest things to achieve, proper front to back differentiation in every listener, and it has to do with HRTF of every listener and the system used to record and whatnot, this is why some reproduction systems have been developed with sensors that measure your head circumference and ear to ear distance, in an attempt to replicate a better reproduction of the recording across all listeners.
Interesting that Christian Henson just posted a video talking about 5.1 and was using a dummy head to give the viewers an idea of what he was talking about. Is surround sound music making another attempt? If so, is it for real this time or just something else to park next to my ancient SQ Mike Oldfield "Boxed" boxed set?
I’m not sure. Atmos on a full speaker system sounds incredible if done well, but it doesn’t translate to headphones quite yet, and the single thing that has been the thorn in the side of surround forever has been the consumer setups. So we’ll see how it pans (see what I did there?) out!
What’s really neat in this discussion is Apple allowing Atmos in combination with “spatial audio” for their iOS devices. When you move your head around (if you have air pods, that is), it’s like you have a full Atmos surround setup. The system is aware of your head’s position. The one thing is to make sure that you are looking straight ahead at the display when you press play :). Some shows on Disney+, for example, sound amazing.
Yeah the demand is there, it would be nice to see the industry concentrating on bespoke new work rather than rehashing classic albums though! Money, money, Monet I guess…
Hi, I just started my journey in sound recording and found this video. this is exactly what I was aiming for. B.T.W, if I connect two mics to opposite sides of the Zoom H6 will It produce the same result? I saw binaural mic (3DIO) without the dummy head so maybe it is unnecessary? thank you so much
The shape and mass of the human head is what makes it work so well - putting a Zoom H6 in the middle will give you stereo but no real binaural effects. Glad you enjoy our videos :)
Sounds awesome. I guess the last recording has been recorded via the constructed head? So is this how your studio and speakers sounds? Btw do you notice any authenticity difference on vocals when recorded in stereo (source being in the middle, and being partially off center) compared to mono?
As binaural recording is not the same as adding binaural movement, what would be your best choice for this ? ( as in placement of sound for those that may question....) Ive been using Logics Logics binaural plug, but found Dear VR more effective..... However... Nothing ever seems to be in the same league as when I play PSVR... It truly impressive! Things aren't sort of above or beyond, but closer to real world 3d audio... Thoughts?
I think it's very difficult to 'fake'. The algorithms are getting there, but nothing sounds anywhere near as good as a genuine binaural recording using either a dummy head like this one, or a real human with microphones in their ears.
More than likely! (Quality depending on everything from how well you build the head, to which mics you put inside. The one in this video works pretty well)
Why can't this be done for Dolby Atmos? Use an Atmos mixing room then use some industry standard head shaped mic array to convert it into a proper binaural recording so we can actually enjoy Atmos on headphones.
My day have been made 🙏 absolutely love the channel and all the fantastic ideas and diy projects coming from the channel If I could request a video then if you guys could make a video on a good travelling solution for music production at three different price points both with and without speakers then that would be amazing Also the idea of binaural drum micing techniques would be epic
@@PresentDayProduction thanks i just did it! I have 1 more question. I tried it just now with the stock ears ( the other ears are on their way) and i was a little bit disappointed with the result. Does this has to do something with the head being so small? I panned both mics hard left and hard right. is there anything else to do? You mentioned that you were going to compare it with the Neumann. Did you do it already? I just would like to know if the small head has a big disadvantage or not. Thanks a lot!!
@@sonderpov the ears play an important role depending on your own ear shape, so the head isn’t that important, but it does slightly enhance binaural perspective
It’s just perspective, because Mr Blokey was facing towards the camera, so in the video you’re hearing precisely what he hears. But you’re right, if you want the sound to follow the action’s side of the screen, then swap them round.
So, Mark made space, for the vinyl front ears... though I wonder if the whole binaural thing is a bit of a ‘silly con’. I guess I’m just a very insensitive kinda bod... but I can’t tell what’s ‘different’ about binaural than any other reasonable stereo recording... I could only hear left/right/centre, over headphones, not in-front/behind etc (but then I can’t interpret those 3D magic pics either)... though there’s a quiet-ish burst of digital buzz from the left at 12:53-ish, is that anything..? What am I missing (apart from a vast personal fortune and a worthy life)?
Listen to the bit with the black screen and you should really get a sense of space. Particularly from behind you on the left. If not…. You’re broken! Try the Virtual Barber Shop as well (link in the description)
@@PresentDayProduction Well, the big news (not..!) is that I’m a damaged individual. Left/Centre/Right are all clear enough... but nothing in-front/behind. Same with VBS. Has the Emperor ordered a new Walkman? Good news, though... I won’t need to waste my meagre funds on an expensive multi-speaker system... stereo will do.
@@CheapoCardCompany Normal stereo in headphones is Left then a range across the top of the head to Right ear or visa versa. I can hear the difference very clearly. If you can't that's quite a bummer.
@@raycochrane3971 Eh...? Don’t quite get that... I mean, okay, the implication of my being abnormal is fair enough... but I’d have thought “normal stereo in headphones” would be an in-ear linear-level thing, from left, through the ‘centre’ of the head, to the right (& vice versa, of course) all on the same plane. ‘Top of’ implies the (artificial) effect of height... and it’s such, along with in-front & behind which I can’t discern.
@@CheapoCardCompany I didn't imply - I echoed your 1st sentence: "Well, the big news (not..!) is that I’m a damaged individual." I "miswrote" - yes the centre is between the ears but I do hear things as above, often. In stereo headphones I can & do hear things on different vertical planes so that a violin may seem to be above my right ear etc. This is not too far from the stereo image of well set up speakers though. Not as good mind, but not a million miles away. The fact is that I may be the damaged individual.
Excellent. I was hooked when I bought Lou Reed's The Bells on release...it's a nicer job that the subsequent binaural he did - even the live stuff. I'm perm prejudiced against Street Hassles as I saw him on that tour...a dour, unpleasant, bitter affair. One brilliant title track though.What hasn't been explained, from my on n off searching, is just how it's applied in the studio when recording and mixing. I assume a surround sound mix is created and then rerecorded via the dummy in an isolated, quiet room. The "loss" of definition/audio quality etc are also of interest. Bloody good stuff though.
In this case we just re-recorded the audio through the speakers into the dummy head, but if we were making a song from scratch I’d want to record the actual parts using the head - any guitars, vocals, percussive elements etc
Hi I know this vid is 2 years old and sorry for being so late, (I have subscribed though :). I have an issue that I hope you can help with. I have built a binaural mic, using a polystyrene head and 2 lekato lav mics, my idea was to do headphone reviews and record the audio from the headphones using the head, now, both mics work perfectly if plugged into the phone, but even using a splitter I can't get stereo, wich is the whole point. But, what i need to do is use either my audio interface (presonus studio 24c) or my mixing Desk/interface (zoom livetrack L20) and give each mic its own channel and pan left and right. The mics are trrs and came with cables to adapt them to trs, but I can not get any sound from them using either option of interface, please please save my sanity and help me out. Thanks in advance P.s. mine is calles Binaural Billy haha Gray
You need a cable to adapt the mini jack to male XLR. One for each mic. Then pop those into the mic pres in your interface. But are they powered in any way? Most lav mics need power, so we used two mics that have XLRs and take regular phantom power from a console or interface.
@PresentDayProduction hi thanks for replying so quickly, the two that I purchased dont have power, but I've had a hunt around and I do have a powered one it's a Boya by m1 and this works in my interface and thr zoom desk, so I'm going to order another one of those, Thank you so much for you time and help, love the chanel Regards Gray
I wish I knew you were going to do this beforehand, I could have saved you money. All it costs is a shovel and a night at the graveyard… P.S.: Excellent work as always!!!!
@@PresentDayProduction well, at least you tried! Have you considered using some sort of silicone instead of the sand? It should be more human-like, although I am not sure how desirable that might be, I’d imagine it would let some frequencies to bleed through to the other side.
18£ for a head? i think it is made for some other purpose... Are you sure didnt have a hole in his mouth? if it did, stick one there too for a decca tree
im really impressed with how the music translated to stereo on my speakers.
In My Face has to be re-recording in glorious Binaural so we can enjoy it in all it's majesty! 😃
I am so glad I found this recording and happened to be listening with the headphones I normally use for binaural listening. The binaural cat's purring was absolutely amazing and the highlight of the recording! Very well done. My listening is almost exclusively with headphones.
In my experience, and I listen to a lot of binaural audio, the quality of the headphones and audio chain is most critical for binaural work. To put it another way, binaural is the 'acid test' for audio equipment. Sometimes it's quite amazing what equipment and headphones turn out to really present the most accurate reproduction in that it's not always what you think would (or should) be the most best or most accurate.
I've been meaning to build a dummy head for ages. This is good inspiration to get on with it !
Right, that's it. I'm going to find your studio, break in and steal it.
Floppy the cat, that is.
You can’t take Floppy! We love him!
Love this - great production values on all your videos. Thanks tons for useful info delivered in such a hilarious manner...
As soon as I closed my eyes during the upgraded version it blew my mind!
The upgrades really improved the directionality, especially front to back. Really interesting video.
I preferred the prosthetic head to the puppets.
So we’re alright to use puppets if we call them “prosthetic heads”? 😂😂😂😂😂
Just kidding. Thanks for watching Jem.
Love the look of complete disdain on the cat's face when you demonstrated "Mr. Blokey's" radical trepanning.
That's cats for you.
This is the best tutorial I didn't even know I needed.
Thats so awesome guys!! Cant wait to see the comparison
Sounds fantastic but maybe an ear canal has to be created in the dummy head and the microphone element mounted there to achieve a truer binaural pickup as per the structure of a human ear ? When I used a Sennheiser dummy head system many years ago the microphone elements were actually pointed upwards. These ear pieces could also be used on human heads as earpieces for recording. We used them for radio drama recordings as well as live classical music recordings. Once the binaural fad slowed the unit sat in storage for a number of years until I found it gathering dust and mounted the microphone elements on the sides of a baseball hat. It allowed me to record incognito in public spaces to first a cassette unit and then later to DAT, MD and SD media recorders for sfx use. That allowed me to record ambient crowd sounds (stores, hospitals, factories, restaurants, coffee shops, bus-train, airport terminals, marketplaces, moving vehicles, subways, trains, buses, etc.) without people coming up to me and asking me what I was recording and without always needed to arrange for permission from the management of these locations (which we always had to arrange when using traditional microphones because they confused us with film sound crews). The only disadvantage was that I had to go elsewhere to post listen to what I had captured since wearing closed headphones would give away the fact I was recording and defeat the purpose of the exercise. The sound that was captured (although technically stereo and not binaural) was some of the best moving and static sfx that I ever recorded for radio drama when the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation still produced drama for radio broadcast.
This is my first encounter with binaural, and it's rather fantastic... awesome video!
(you should have made a binaural recording of the drilling-through-the-head process, would certainly have freaked me out)
It’s cool innit!
HELLLO I NEED AN ISOLATED FULL VIDEO OR MP3 FILE OF THAT BINAURAL TEST WITH THE MUSIC, THIS PLEASES MY BRAIN SO HARD
That’s brilliant. I think I might build some of these. Thanks 👍
That was a riveting 20 minutes..well done boys
Thank you very much :)
The binaural audio foil thing totally works Crazy well! it is totally behind and in front of me too not just left and right. with my Adam a5x's. But I get close for that, I have them setup where I can sit where my head is basically between them
Very interesting results and quite convincing to my ears. Nice to have flopcat say Hi 😀
Never experienced this and it was awesome!! definitely gonna give it a try!!! Awesoooome!!
CAT MOMENT HIGHLIGHTED
Both sound amazing, but honestly the audio seems much more crisp without the sand and silicone ears; it triggers my ASMR much harder.
You guys are amazing!!!! gonna save a ton of money :)
My mother enjoyed it! Loved when she looked behind her hahaha
This is absolutely amazing 🤩
Bit of an out there question, but I was wondering how much would you charge to put together one of these for myself, I know this was constructed for the vid / other ideas you mentioned fir binaural recordings, but I would absolutely love to take one of these of your hands to start my ASMR channel. Please please please let me know Thanks guys for an amazing video, really enjoyed it…Also LOL @ Mark using every other word other than ASMR 🤣😂loved it…”Spooky AICHSBC recording “lool
Spock would be proud of those ears 🫡
Awesome episode, guys!
The ASMR (aka YMCA, aka BSFA, aka FLOP, 🤣) effect was so convincing, that as I listening through headphones while sitting on my sofa, the sound of Mark’s footsteps made my head turn around, because it sounded just like someone was actually in my living room with me, walking up behind me, from the left. 😳🤯
The realism was a bit spooky, but, also very impressive.
Okay…so now I want a dummy head, too…
I can’t really think of any practical application for it, but I STILL want one.
I suppose that I could always get into producing my own ASMR (aka DOPE, aka WACK, aka BLAM) recordings! 🤣😂
Awesome video, on headphones the rear and above was extremely convincing but the front sound appeared in side my head, rather than in front. The best part was the menacing footage of Mr Floppy! Are you guys trying to depose David Attenborough, in wildlife documentaries?
We have many more hours of FlopCat footage available… :D
Interesting that we aren’t the only ones who came to that conclusion - we also thought the front sounded just like “regular” headphones music and wasn’t discernible from the usual.
But anything outside of that zone was clear.
It's worth pointing out that the listening volume level can be quite critical to the overall experience. Generally, a lower volume works better. It's not always straightforward finding the optimal listening level between being able to hear everything and being too loud and ruining the effect. It can be the almost subliminal or very quiet sounds in the the recording that provide the most sense of 'feel' or 'environment' to the soundscape. This, again, is why the the audio chain needs to be of the highest quality as inadequacies will distort or ruin the soundscape and therefore the experience.
cat is pretty... thx for work and info ;-]
Thanx for brilliant tipp
Hi, great information for making binaural recording gear. Thanks for sharing. My question is that, since the microphones no longer facing forward and are mounted diagonally from the sound source, how much compensation did you have to make (equalization if any) for the microphone's frequency response, if any? Thanks in advance.
Hi there, we didn’t make any adjustments to the audio at all, no compression, no EQ. Any processing only served to somewhat break the psychoacoustic effect. The mics are very good omnidirectional models.
@@PresentDayProduction Thank you!
I think you have a pretty good Binaural system there. Would be interesting to record music in different rooms to see what the actual room adds to the sound.
Thanks Sean, that’s something we’re planning when we review the Sound Devices MixPre6 very soon!
@@PresentDayProduction I have heard some very good audio recordings just from an iphone, it seems room acoustics are key. It would seem that what our ears hear are often quite different from what a mic hears. I Look forward to your experiments.
Hello chaps - hope you're all well. I have followed your splendid suggestion and built my own dummy head complete with silicon ears and the EM272 capsules. Initial tests are pretty impressive but I was just wondering if there are any other tips you might be able to pass on, since you've had yours for a little while. Thank you very much for the idea!
Thanks David! We’re planning a follow up video, and want to compare with a Neumann KU-100, so stay tuned!
@@PresentDayProduction Brilliant - will do 😊
FREAKING COOL!
building same dummy head , mics , silicon ears , sand
This is a really fun project, thanks for the inspiration.
Woudn't it be better to fill the head with some kind of jelly? If you remember "Slime" from our childhood days.
This could be a great experiment for Mr Blokey’s cousin experiment, Uncle Manface
@@PresentDayProduction 😀
The Cat. Boss! What’s her sound like? I’d be curious to hear how Cat’s hear sound, if that’s even possible? Ps great video and would love to create this. And record onto TCD7 (DAT Machine)
Another great video! Looks like Mr Blokey has a fractured scull now?
I dropped him… he’s ok though!
Its funny how far you can go with DIY
great mate, but you didn't even show how to remove bottom of this head. I just bought the same devices and now I see that your tutorial starts in the middle
I tried it just now with the stock ears ( the other ears are on their way) and i was a little bit disappointed with the result. Does this has to do something with the head being so small? I panned both mics hard left and hard right. is there anything else to do? You mentioned that you were going to compare it with the Neumann. Did you do it already? I just would like to know if the small head has a big disadvantage or not. Thanks a lot!!
Have you guys looked into front-to-back confusion in binaural? In my case, everything recorded in the front translated to the back, and things in the back just sounded MORE clearly in the back. It's a typical limitation of the format and I'd love to hear what you think about it. From research at McGill university, many colleagues doing binaural research as part of their PhD studies, I remember it's one of the hardest things to achieve, proper front to back differentiation in every listener, and it has to do with HRTF of every listener and the system used to record and whatnot, this is why some reproduction systems have been developed with sensors that measure your head circumference and ear to ear distance, in an attempt to replicate a better reproduction of the recording across all listeners.
Thanks for the really interesting comment! We can certainly take a further look into it!
I thought there was something wrong with my ears because that's exactly what I experienced with the recordings in this video
Interesting that Christian Henson just posted a video talking about 5.1 and was using a dummy head to give the viewers an idea of what he was talking about. Is surround sound music making another attempt? If so, is it for real this time or just something else to park next to my ancient SQ Mike Oldfield "Boxed" boxed set?
I’m not sure. Atmos on a full speaker system sounds incredible if done well, but it doesn’t translate to headphones quite yet, and the single thing that has been the thorn in the side of surround forever has been the consumer setups. So we’ll see how it pans (see what I did there?) out!
What’s really neat in this discussion is Apple allowing Atmos in combination with “spatial audio” for their iOS devices. When you move your head around (if you have air pods, that is), it’s like you have a full Atmos surround setup. The system is aware of your head’s position. The one thing is to make sure that you are looking straight ahead at the display when you press play :). Some shows on Disney+, for example, sound amazing.
Yeah the demand is there, it would be nice to see the industry concentrating on bespoke new work rather than rehashing classic albums though! Money, money, Monet I guess…
Now, we just need binanal mics
That idea is binanas
Hi, I just started my journey in sound recording and found this video.
this is exactly what I was aiming for.
B.T.W, if I connect two mics to opposite sides of the Zoom H6 will It produce the same result? I saw binaural mic (3DIO) without the dummy head
so maybe it is unnecessary?
thank you so much
The shape and mass of the human head is what makes it work so well - putting a Zoom H6 in the middle will give you stereo but no real binaural effects. Glad you enjoy our videos :)
Sounds awesome.
I guess the last recording has been recorded via the constructed head? So is this how your studio and speakers sounds?
Btw do you notice any authenticity difference on vocals when recorded in stereo (source being in the middle, and being partially off center) compared to mono?
I've looked everywhere online and checked and rechecked Disgogs and AllMusic but cannot find anything by 'Naural'.
i like the tutorial but are you sure the last tune is a recording of the binaural ? since i doubt it.
As binaural recording is not the same as adding binaural movement, what would be your best choice for this ? ( as in placement of sound for those that may question....)
Ive been using Logics Logics binaural plug, but found Dear VR more effective..... However... Nothing ever seems to be in the same league as when I play PSVR... It truly impressive! Things aren't sort of above or beyond, but closer to real world 3d audio...
Thoughts?
I think it's very difficult to 'fake'. The algorithms are getting there, but nothing sounds anywhere near as good as a genuine binaural recording using either a dummy head like this one, or a real human with microphones in their ears.
Ears one I made earlier…..
Sounds great except fot the front, right? It does not sound like the noise is in the front.
Will this pvc head be able to record some headphone demos you think?
More than likely! (Quality depending on everything from how well you build the head, to which mics you put inside. The one in this video works pretty well)
Great project! However, at $99 + VAT+ shipping for the silicon ears is a no-go for me. Can you recommend cheaper silicon ears?
Just use the ones on the head, not silicone, but they ‘sound’ very realistic!
Nice. Where can we download/stream the full version of the song? Kinda good...
Boom Boom Boom by Vicki Vox
EpidemicSound:
www.epidemicsound.com/track/aDOoGfPNzX/
Apple Music:
music.apple.com/gb/album/boom-boom-boom-to-the-beat-single/1585647870
Spotify:
open.spotify.com/track/7jmTm01jFzYcQd4kr6ypIl
Tidal:
tidal.com/track/197296956
Your cat cares as much about your audio projects as my family does about mine...
a dummy head for less than £76? i didn't realise mark was that cheap to buy
Oooooo cheeky! 🤣 I’ve always been too cheap!
Why can't this be done for Dolby Atmos? Use an Atmos mixing room then use some industry standard head shaped mic array to convert it into a proper binaural recording so we can actually enjoy Atmos on headphones.
Can you please make a version where his eyes are replaced with xlr inputs
My day have been made 🙏 absolutely love the channel and all the fantastic ideas and diy projects coming from the channel
If I could request a video then if you guys could make a video on a good travelling solution for music production at three different price points both with and without speakers then that would be amazing
Also the idea of binaural drum micing techniques would be epic
Great ideas, XLR eyes are awesome!
We can look into travelling setups, for sure :)
And what about some kind of gel inside, instead of sand? (human brain being mainly made of water)
I've tried a few things now (the sand didn't last long!) and it doesn't really seem to matter. I've stuffed dense insulation in it for the time being.
@@PresentDayProduction keep us informed of the progress! (unless you put some unspeakable material in it, obviously....)
7:16 are the channels the wrong way around?
No, you’re just looking at the front of the head. So from the heads perspective (imagine you are it) it’s the right way round
Hey, I ordered the same dummy head but how did take the base out so can get inside the head?
With a hole saw drill attachment
@@PresentDayProduction thanks i just did it! I have 1 more question. I tried it just now with the stock ears ( the other ears are on their way) and i was a little bit disappointed with the result. Does this has to do something with the head being so small? I panned both mics hard left and hard right. is there anything else to do? You mentioned that you were going to compare it with the Neumann. Did you do it already? I just would like to know if the small head has a big disadvantage or not. Thanks a lot!!
What did you plug the microphones into?
A Clarett 8PreX :)
You missed our mics, and psssst, you dont really need a head as the ears play a huge part for the perception of direction :O)
PS, were in the UK so if you'd like to have a look at our products give us a shout!
why does the 3dio ears not perform as well as a full dummy head?
@@sonderpov the ears play an important role depending on your own ear shape, so the head isn’t that important, but it does slightly enhance binaural perspective
Sounds great but I had to wear my headphones back to front - the sides seemed opposite :-)
It’s just perspective, because Mr Blokey was facing towards the camera, so in the video you’re hearing precisely what he hears. But you’re right, if you want the sound to follow the action’s side of the screen, then swap them round.
@@PresentDayProduction Phew! Though I'd miswired the studio somewhere.
So, Mark made space, for the vinyl front ears... though I wonder if the whole binaural thing is a bit of a ‘silly con’.
I guess I’m just a very insensitive kinda bod... but I can’t tell what’s ‘different’ about binaural than any other reasonable stereo recording... I could only hear left/right/centre, over headphones, not in-front/behind etc (but then I can’t interpret those 3D magic pics either)... though there’s a quiet-ish burst of digital buzz from the left at 12:53-ish, is that anything..? What am I missing (apart from a vast personal fortune and a worthy life)?
Listen to the bit with the black screen and you should really get a sense of space. Particularly from behind you on the left. If not…. You’re broken! Try the Virtual Barber Shop as well (link in the description)
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Well, the big news (not..!) is that I’m a damaged individual. Left/Centre/Right are all clear enough... but nothing in-front/behind. Same with VBS. Has the Emperor ordered a new Walkman? Good news, though... I won’t need to waste my meagre funds on an expensive multi-speaker system... stereo will do.
@@CheapoCardCompany Normal stereo in headphones is Left then a range across the top of the head to Right ear or visa versa. I can hear the difference very clearly. If you can't that's quite a bummer.
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Eh...? Don’t quite get that... I mean, okay, the implication of my being abnormal is fair enough... but I’d have thought “normal stereo in headphones” would be an in-ear linear-level thing, from left, through the ‘centre’ of the head, to the right (& vice versa, of course) all on the same plane. ‘Top of’ implies the (artificial) effect of height... and it’s such, along with in-front & behind which I can’t discern.
@@CheapoCardCompany I didn't imply - I echoed your 1st sentence: "Well, the big news (not..!) is that I’m a damaged individual." I "miswrote" - yes the centre is between the ears but I do hear things as above, often. In stereo headphones I can & do hear things on different vertical planes so that a violin may seem to be above my right ear etc. This is not too far from the stereo image of well set up speakers though. Not as good mind, but not a million miles away. The fact is that I may be the damaged individual.
I’m late😭
Excellent. I was hooked when I bought Lou Reed's The Bells on release...it's a nicer job that the subsequent binaural he did - even the live stuff. I'm perm prejudiced against Street Hassles as I saw him on that tour...a dour, unpleasant, bitter affair. One brilliant title track though.What hasn't been explained, from my on n off searching, is just how it's applied in the studio when recording and mixing. I assume a surround sound mix is created and then rerecorded via the dummy in an isolated, quiet room. The "loss" of definition/audio quality etc are also of interest. Bloody good stuff though.
In this case we just re-recorded the audio through the speakers into the dummy head, but if we were making a song from scratch I’d want to record the actual parts using the head - any guitars, vocals, percussive elements etc
What kind of interface do I need for these mics please? I’m going to build a binaural head, but can I plug these into my interface for recording?
Any interface with two XLR inputs with phantom power will work
@@PresentDayProduction thank you 😊
@@PresentDayProduction how many phatom power the em272 mics need?
Standard +48V phantom power found in pretty much all audio devices will do the trick
It sounds amazing for money though not as good at the Neumann KU 100 by any means . I have yet to see anyone replicate that themselves.
Hi I know this vid is 2 years old and sorry for being so late, (I have subscribed though :).
I have an issue that I hope you can help with.
I have built a binaural mic, using a polystyrene head and 2 lekato lav mics, my idea was to do headphone reviews and record the audio from the headphones using the head, now, both mics work perfectly if plugged into the phone, but even using a splitter I can't get stereo, wich is the whole point.
But, what i need to do is use either my audio interface (presonus studio 24c) or my mixing Desk/interface (zoom livetrack L20) and give each mic its own channel and pan left and right.
The mics are trrs and came with cables to adapt them to trs, but I can not get any sound from them using either option of interface, please please save my sanity and help me out.
Thanks in advance
P.s. mine is calles Binaural Billy haha
Gray
You need a cable to adapt the mini jack to male XLR. One for each mic. Then pop those into the mic pres in your interface. But are they powered in any way? Most lav mics need power, so we used two mics that have XLRs and take regular phantom power from a console or interface.
@PresentDayProduction hi thanks for replying so quickly, the two that I purchased dont have power, but I've had a hunt around and I do have a powered one it's a Boya by m1 and this works in my interface and thr zoom desk, so I'm going to order another one of those,
Thank you so much for you time and help, love the chanel
Regards
Gray
I wish I knew you were going to do this beforehand, I could have saved you money. All it costs is a shovel and a night at the graveyard…
P.S.: Excellent work as always!!!!
We tried that, but they don’t last long! And the smell… ewww
@@PresentDayProduction well, at least you tried!
Have you considered using some sort of silicone instead of the sand? It should be more human-like, although I am not sure how desirable that might be, I’d imagine it would let some frequencies to bleed through to the other side.
The sand worked really well, but I’ve replaced that with densely packed insulation now. Works just as well but a bit less messy!
@@PresentDayProduction probably a bit lighter, too, easier on the stands, easier for location work 😉
Can you please make me one please I really need that for my ASMR
mr blokey doesnt look like hes doing all that well after you gave him some trepanning
It’s fine, he said was just like a spa day, relaxing as anything!
The head just got 10 pounds more expensive 😞
if you look deep into the worlds fair shit gets weird. i think history is not at all what we have been told it is.
None of those links work LOL
Maybe they’ve expired over time. We’ll get the new ones sorted tomorrow hopefully
18£ for a head? i think it is made for some other purpose...
Are you sure didnt have a hole in his mouth?
if it did, stick one there too for a decca tree
I wanted one with fully working orifices but James wouldn’t let me… 🤣