As an opera student, I find it so fascinating that I actually get what is being said here even though I don't speak the language... Simply because of the examples being given and the physical movements.
@@suep9445 Yeah, you can even hear what it is that is being worked on. The student was over rounding in parts and it was throwing her sound back a little too much to cut through an orchestra without over singing... So the teacher is working on getting her to consistently place her sound more forward on her hard palate. I got all that from just watching and listening to the change in sound and it is helpful in my own work on the song because I have similar habits... Pretty cool
I am from Brazil, I know a little bit russian, but I agree, it doesn't matter what language you are saying, but diaphragm, intensity, closed sound, open sound, sound range can be transmited universally when you are involved in the sound communication.
@Jane To be clear, I'm not personally a huge fan of sopranos. They can definitely come across as showy. But objectively, it's just ignorant to say this isn't top tier music. It's Mozart lol
That’s why russian school system is the best . You don’t see this dedication style and I don’t give a shit who you are type of coaching. She treats her like all her students and i love that. Music coaching is amazing. It’s a bond for life and the gratitude you have for the teacher is beyond any word. It’s not just a job. Music is a gift and not everyone has it. Getting help like this is what makes people believe in magic . And when she sees her in the big screen or the opera house... the tears and all hard work payed off. It’s something that makes her proud even more than her parents or family. Because no matter what she made you who you are as an artist. You have motivation and talent... the real work is of the professor.... with online school many missed this intimate moment. This is how legends are made.
I’m a dude - but if she was coaching me and told me to sing it like that, in that octave, exactly like she did …. I’d just do it!! I wouldn’t argue. I’d be terrified to disobey. 🤣🤣 Seriously - amazing coach. WOW
As my dear teacher used to say "your ear is in your nose". Also "there is no up or down" The toughest part of true vocal production. Note how the coach stops her every time she wanders off and gives her the thumbs up when she's back on track. That's why you have to have someone to alert you, otherwise you'll fall in the trap of listening to yourself instead if feeling when it is free and unforced.
@@rrgallo967 I wonder because it doesn't depict what the voice teacher was teaching Vera in the masterclass. She was much more concerned about Vera understanding how to breathe into the shape of the vowel and also to always breathe deeply using Appoggio to release the sound NOT producing from the nose or that "your ear is in your nose", if not Vera would be having a glorious NASAL sound if she was producing the sound from her ear like he said his teacher said is in her NOSE!!!!
@@rrgallo967 That you can tell how to place the volume by the vibrations, the physical sensations behind the nose, in the resonating cavities (sinuses).
I'm a graduate of Bachelor of Library and Information Science which is never my cup of tea. Took that because of my parents want. I'm still hoping to have music degree and lesson like this. Music is my life and my life would be complete if my dream will come true. Great teacher and great student! You both are amazing!
Десятки раз слышала эту арию в разном исполнении. Очень интересно было посмотреть, как певица и педагог добиваются нужного звучания. Спасибо, что выложили и успехов вам.
*Осознайте, НАСКОЛЬКО ювелирная работа у вокалистов, если они - спецы!* Над каждой нотой, над каждым дыханием и эмоциональным посылом. *Поют не только голосом, а ВСЕМ ТЕЛОМ !* Счастье, что еще есть такие профессионалы! _Низкий поклон педагогу!_
@@Oksana_Ovchinnikova th-cam.com/video/66-WjtBCbXU/w-d-xo.html Назовите хоть одно имя артиста этого оркестра, который/которая разучивал/разучивала свою партию не самостоятельно, а с посторонней помощью ( малые дети и лишь первое время читают по слогам ) и тогда я преклонюсь перед вашей грамотностью ( = умение писАть и читать ;) ) и образованностью. Будьте здоровы. ( в придачу )
@@АндрейГромов-г2щкакую глупость несусветную вы несете)) Инструмент певца - его тело, его голос, который он со стороны не слышит, в отличие от музыканта. Вам бы обратиться к азам анатомии и физиологии. Без постановки голоса с помощью грамотного наставника невозможно идеально петь. Что же до артиста оркестра, то прежде, чем его допустили в тот самый оркестр, его много лет учили обращаться с инструментом. Ну, и вишенка на торте: дрессировщиком оркестра является дирижер или руководитель ансамбля. Без него - это сброд, умеющий извлекать звуки. Не более. Даже, если каждый по отдельности талантлив.
For heaven sake...what wonderful...I just surrender myself. And I forgive all those annoyed singer was vocalizing in the Conservatory, while I was trying to study my clarinet when I was young. Thank you very much for post...This is uncreadible. What compromise. Thanks Vera Trifanova and the master Sonya Pankratov, you guys are the best!
Fascinating! Such a brilliant coloratura, so much improvement from the teacher! This is a fabulous aria and the teacher is making the already excellent singer - extraordinary! And I don't know a word of Russian. But you just need to be very familiar with this second aria of the Queen of the Night. She is really strong, this aria requires great strength.
@@lbazemore585 - It is German. The coach is trying to bring out the strength of the character in this singer. I am not sure she will get it. That comes from the singer's mouth extended. Well, maybe she will. She seems better already
this is a voice teacher. I've been fortunate to work with some dedicated people to voice lessons. Classical and Modern / Pop. I can feel she's pretty damn good at teaching people how to be good, love her
I LOVE THIS! I wish she was my vocal coach. I’m a soprano and I sing F6 once in a blue moon and I’ve had voice lessons in college before but sometimes I forgot to sing with open tone.
Ah mouth shape is so important to the fraction for notes like these. As well as diaphragmatic bounce and vocal placement for resonance l. The only other thing I think that comes close is metal screaming bc the note is dependent on mouth shape so much.
Lessons aren't easy. If you want to be the best, you have to truly break yourself up to bits and then find the strength to put yourself back together again. It's a lifelong struggle, but everyone eventually finds their calling in something.
Классный учитель вокала. Тяжёлый труд. Но главное не опускать рук в этом деле никогда. И главное радость и любовь и великий труд . Не знала,что в немецком языке Королева ночи. Не просто. Молодчинка Верочка, старается.
Вот это мастер-класс! Здорово! Какое внимание к каждой ноте. Мне всегда казалось, что в этой арии самое сложное - это верхние стаккатные ноты, а оказывается, гораздо важнее, как ты подходишь к ним, и как выходишь из них, иначе можно просто сорвать голос. Извините за такое неудобоваримое объяснение, я непрофессионал.
Вы только что поняли саму суть бельканто!) некоторые годами поют и не понимают) да, для колоратуры - верхние ноты простые, самое сложное - это грамотно к ним подойти.. тут даже проблема не в том, что можно повредить связкам, хотя и это тоже, но и звук будет некрасивый
@@АлександраБакульманова-у8п thank you so much!! I know the aria and I could tell more or less what were the teacher corrections but I didn't know what they were speaking
I would’ve used a bit more of a a diaphragm kick on each note of the staccatos (she did it once on the video at 6:45 and sounded amazing but then she lost it), it makes it sound way more supported and strong and convincing
No, le indicaba algunas, muchas cosas, pero en ningún momento la regañaba. Hay una parte que para quien no habla ruso parece que la reta o que se enoja pero en realidad le está diciendo "vot, vot, vot" Que en ruso quiero decir "eso, eso eso" Pasa mucho que los rusos cuando son demostrativos para quien no los entiende parece que están enojados.
La profesora detalladamente está ayudando a perfeccionar los pasajes complejos de la aria . Es una de las cantantes y pedagogas de la época comunista y el sistema de la educación rusa/ países comunistas era muy duro, pero muy eficaz. Está enseñando con toda su alma, me acorde mis años cuando yo era una estudiante del canto lírico en el cons. superior , mi profe estaba enseñándome en la misma manera …
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As an opera student, I find it so fascinating that I actually get what is being said here even though I don't speak the language... Simply because of the examples being given and the physical movements.
Yes! I'm in a classical choir - one of the usual multitude of alti, and your point is relevant for me as well.
@@suep9445 Yeah, you can even hear what it is that is being worked on. The student was over rounding in parts and it was throwing her sound back a little too much to cut through an orchestra without over singing... So the teacher is working on getting her to consistently place her sound more forward on her hard palate. I got all that from just watching and listening to the change in sound and it is helpful in my own work on the song because I have similar habits... Pretty cool
Me too, takes me back to my singing career.
I am from Brazil, I know a little bit russian, but I agree, it doesn't matter what language you are saying, but diaphragm, intensity, closed sound, open sound, sound range can be transmited universally when you are involved in the sound communication.
Yes, the "finger under the nose routine" is beyond borders, for sure. 😉
What an amazing teacher - such a keen attention to the smallest detail.
Oh, to have a fraction of either of their talents.
In my head I do :-)
Their effort too man.
@Jane To be clear, I'm not personally a huge fan of sopranos. They can definitely come across as showy. But objectively, it's just ignorant to say this isn't top tier music. It's Mozart lol
That’s why russian school system is the best . You don’t see this dedication style and I don’t give a shit who you are type of coaching. She treats her like all her students and i love that. Music coaching is amazing. It’s a bond for life and the gratitude you have for the teacher is beyond any word. It’s not just a job. Music is a gift and not everyone has it. Getting help like this is what makes people believe in magic . And when she sees her in the big screen or the opera house... the tears and all hard work payed off. It’s something that makes her proud even more than her parents or family. Because no matter what she made you who you are as an artist. You have motivation and talent... the real work is of the professor.... with online school many missed this intimate moment. This is how legends are made.
I’m a dude - but if she was coaching me and told me to sing it like that, in that octave, exactly like she did …. I’d just do it!! I wouldn’t argue. I’d be terrified to disobey. 🤣🤣
Seriously - amazing coach. WOW
I'd pay money to see a dude sing this, for sure! ✂️🥎🥎!
This teachers voice is amazing.
As my dear teacher used to say "your ear is in your nose". Also "there is no up or down" The toughest part of true vocal production. Note how the coach stops her every time she wanders off and gives her the thumbs up when she's back on track. That's why you have to have someone to alert you, otherwise you'll fall in the trap of listening to yourself instead if feeling when it is free and unforced.
What does "your ear is in your nose" mean? What's that meant to imply/convey?
@@rrgallo967 I wonder because it doesn't depict what the voice teacher was teaching Vera in the masterclass. She was much more concerned about Vera understanding how to breathe into the shape of the vowel and also to always breathe deeply using Appoggio to release the sound NOT producing from the nose or that "your ear is in your nose", if not Vera would be having a glorious NASAL sound if she was producing the sound from her ear like he said his teacher said is in her NOSE!!!!
The teacher has also a much clearer diction in German than her student .
@@rrgallo967 That you can tell how to place the volume by the vibrations, the physical sensations behind the nose, in the resonating cavities (sinuses).
What did your teacher mean by "your ear is in your nose"?
The amount of energy and emotion on this video!!!
Какой требовательный преподаватель! Какое внимание к мельчайшей детали! Браво!
Браво педагогу!
Я со своими учениками не слезаю ни с ноты, ни с фразы, пока не поймут и не споют правильно! 👏👏👏👏❤️
Vera Trifanova is an amazing vocalist 💜 Sonya Pankratova is a wonderful teacher! 🌸🌸🌸
I'm a graduate of Bachelor of Library and Information Science which is never my cup of tea. Took that because of my parents want. I'm still hoping to have music degree and lesson like this. Music is my life and my life would be complete if my dream will come true. Great teacher and great student! You both are amazing!
I've never been coached on this aria - but it's been in my repertoire for decades - this was awesome.
Десятки раз слышала эту арию в разном исполнении. Очень интересно было посмотреть, как певица и педагог добиваются нужного звучания. Спасибо, что выложили и успехов вам.
У Оли Поляковой она всегда подчеркивает,оперный голос правда похож
Какая эмоциональная вовлеченность! Какое доверие ученицы преподавателю! Огромное удовольствие смотреть и слушать:)
*Осознайте, НАСКОЛЬКО ювелирная работа у вокалистов, если они - спецы!*
Над каждой нотой, над каждым дыханием и эмоциональным посылом.
*Поют не только голосом, а ВСЕМ ТЕЛОМ !*
Счастье, что еще есть такие профессионалы!
_Низкий поклон педагогу!_
Большинство оркестровых музыкантов работают не менее ювелирно, но почему-то обходятся без дрессиро́вщика .....
@@АндрейГромов-г2щ , для чего Вы показываете свою безграмотность и необразованность? Еще и хамите в придачу?
@@Oksana_Ovchinnikova th-cam.com/video/66-WjtBCbXU/w-d-xo.html Назовите хоть одно имя артиста этого оркестра, который/которая разучивал/разучивала свою партию не самостоятельно, а с посторонней помощью ( малые дети и лишь первое время читают по слогам ) и тогда я преклонюсь перед вашей грамотностью ( = умение писАть и читать ;) ) и образованностью. Будьте здоровы. ( в придачу )
@@Oksana_Ovchinnikova th-cam.com/video/gIX_UtgX1PA/w-d-xo.html Это плохо, скажите?
@@АндрейГромов-г2щкакую глупость несусветную вы несете)) Инструмент певца - его тело, его голос, который он со стороны не слышит, в отличие от музыканта. Вам бы обратиться к азам анатомии и физиологии. Без постановки голоса с помощью грамотного наставника невозможно идеально петь. Что же до артиста оркестра, то прежде, чем его допустили в тот самый оркестр, его много лет учили обращаться с инструментом. Ну, и вишенка на торте: дрессировщиком оркестра является дирижер или руководитель ансамбля. Без него - это сброд, умеющий извлекать звуки. Не более. Даже, если каждый по отдельности талантлив.
Amazingggg teacher and amazing student
Sonya reminds me of my favorite professor in Russia-the demeanor, the teaching style, everything. Now I miss her 🥲
Гениальный педагог, да еще и показывает в полную силу. А голос-то какой мощный, светлый, свежий. Браво!!!!
For heaven sake...what wonderful...I just surrender myself. And I forgive all those annoyed singer was vocalizing in the Conservatory, while I was trying to study my clarinet when I was young. Thank you very much for post...This is uncreadible. What compromise. Thanks Vera Trifanova and the master Sonya Pankratov, you guys are the best!
Fascinating! Such a brilliant coloratura, so much improvement from the teacher! This is a fabulous aria and the teacher is making the already excellent singer - extraordinary! And I don't know a word of Russian. But you just need to be very familiar with this second aria of the Queen of the Night. She is really strong, this aria requires great strength.
I thought it was German?!?!
@@lbazemore585 - It is German. The coach is trying to bring out the strength of the character in this singer. I am not sure she will get it. That comes from the singer's mouth extended. Well, maybe she will. She seems better already
I really would love to hear this magnificent teacher sings the piece......
sameee
Incredible human endeavor. Great teacher, receptive student. Bless their hearts !!!
So much work behind the show
This teacher is phenomenal!
A great Teacher !!
BRAVA 👏👏👏🌹🌹🌹❤❤❤
Вот же круто. Мало что понимаю в механике вокала . Но смотреть одно удовольствие. Спасибо и ученику, и конечно педагогу .
Интересно сказали: в «механике вокала»:)
@@KseniaKim333 к сожалению не знаю, как выразиться точнее , ну очень интересная органика в этом.
@@АлександрПетренко-п1ы обычно говорят техника, но мне и механика понравилось:)
@@KseniaKim333 спасибо, вы очень любезны. И пожалуй снисходительны.
@@KseniaKim333 и очень красивое фото на миниатюре учётной записи
Amazing class! Everything she's teaching and correcting make sense! Again, amazing!
WOW... some REALLY great singing... and some REALLY great world class teaching... her high F's kicked ASS!!!!!
Супер педагог! Ученица Очень старается. Здорово!
this is a voice teacher. I've been fortunate to work with some dedicated people to voice lessons. Classical and Modern / Pop. I can feel she's pretty damn good at teaching people how to be good, love her
Sehr gute saubere Aussprache! Ich habe jedes Wort verstanden.👏👏👏
I LOVE THIS! I wish she was my vocal coach. I’m a soprano and I sing F6 once in a blue moon and I’ve had voice lessons in college before but sometimes I forgot to sing with open tone.
Очень понравилась работа педагога и умная студентка.
The way she was moving her mouth at the end and it was perfect haha so good
Thank you
Ah mouth shape is so important to the fraction for notes like these. As well as diaphragmatic bounce and vocal placement for resonance l. The only other thing I think that comes close is metal screaming bc the note is dependent on mouth shape so much.
Bravo, hermoso ver la preparación de tan bella arte que es la ópera.👏🏻👏🏻😁😁👏🏻
Как здорово!!! Обожаю процесс работы ювелирной!!!
oh dear goddess,what a teacher
Una maestra ❤️🥰
Incredible the teacher!!!! Respect!!! 🙌🙌🙌🙌
Soooooooooooooooooooooo wonderful... bravi to all of you!!! A perfect voice construction!!! beautiful
Потрясающая! Кажется, надо тоже учиться петь)
Excelente la maestra y desde luego la soprano
I wish I could sing like them :(
So eine Lehrerin hätte ich gerne🙏
Pure joy!
THIS WAS AMAZING TO VIEW!!!!!!
Randomly popup out of nowhere geez, can't complain though.
Очень важно, что педагог говорит о прикрытии!!умница перподаватель!
Wooow awesome!! 😍😍 Greetings from Brazil 🇧🇷
Great teacher!!!
Преподаватель - супер !!!
Lessons aren't easy. If you want to be the best, you have to truly break yourself up to bits and then find the strength to put yourself back together again. It's a lifelong struggle, but everyone eventually finds their calling in something.
what a grate professore!!!!!
great teacher
Классный учитель вокала. Тяжёлый труд. Но главное не опускать рук в этом деле никогда. И главное радость и любовь и великий труд . Не знала,что в немецком языке Королева ночи. Не просто. Молодчинка Верочка, старается.
Моцарт из Австрии. Писал на немецком )
Fantastic.
Meu sonho era ter uma professora dessas 😍
Какой красивый голос голос в преподавателя
Вот это мастер-класс! Здорово! Какое внимание к каждой ноте. Мне всегда казалось, что в этой арии самое сложное - это верхние стаккатные ноты, а оказывается, гораздо важнее, как ты подходишь к ним, и как выходишь из них, иначе можно просто сорвать голос. Извините за такое неудобоваримое объяснение, я непрофессионал.
Вы только что поняли саму суть бельканто!) некоторые годами поют и не понимают) да, для колоратуры - верхние ноты простые, самое сложное - это грамотно к ним подойти.. тут даже проблема не в том, что можно повредить связкам, хотя и это тоже, но и звук будет некрасивый
@@amaranten спасибо, мне всегда говорили, что я стихийный музыкант. Значит, не лукавили.
This is incredible!
Hermosa y brillante
Fascinating
Its like how i watch Chon Soejin trying to teach Ha Eunbyoel for the performance ! So she cant lose Bae Rona 😂😂😂😂
Прекрасный урок!
Me fascina esa aria de Mozart. VERA LA FELICITO..!
Uwielbiam! Wspaniałe 🤭😍😘edit: za każdym wielkim talentem, stoi wielu wielkich nauczycieli i mnóstwo, mnóstwo godzin pracy. Piękne! 😍
Captivating to watch…
Amazing☺
Przecudnie! Pozdrawiam z Polski 🇵🇱
Молодчиха!
I don't even know for sure what language this is but I could tell it's a priceless masterclass
The teacher and the student are Russians. The language of aria is German.
@@АлександраБакульманова-у8п thank you so much!! I know the aria and I could tell more or less what were the teacher corrections but I didn't know what they were speaking
Very helpful to me, too
Diana Damrau forever
Wspaniały pedagog.😊
Increíble la profesora increíble la estudiante!
Thanks
the highest note is almost perfect wao
Have you ever been told u're extremely handsome? :)
@@dukebubblebutt5256 me, never haha
@@arniekevinvalera8166 let me have a look, hm..
It's strange, you are fine
@@dukebubblebutt5256 you look mighty fine yourself
wonderfull!
Brava
Damn, this is good!
선생님도 진짜 열정이시고 제자도 무지 잘하시네요
얼굴도 참 이쁘시고,
fascinating exchange ! Bravo !
Divineeee!
Almost like watching the great Natalie Dessay rehearse before a performance :)
The coach is good
I would’ve used a bit more of a a diaphragm kick on each note of the staccatos (she did it once on the video at 6:45 and sounded amazing but then she lost it), it makes it sound way more supported and strong and convincing
When you want to be really successful in a skill. Reality - 7:05
No tengo ni idea de que decía las maestra pero estaba regañando a su alumna. Justo como mi maestra de canto me hace 😂😂😂
No, le indicaba algunas, muchas cosas, pero en ningún momento la regañaba. Hay una parte que para quien no habla ruso parece que la reta o que se enoja pero en realidad le está diciendo "vot, vot, vot" Que en ruso quiero decir "eso, eso eso"
Pasa mucho que los rusos cuando son demostrativos para quien no los entiende parece que están enojados.
Y a todos nos han regañado en clases de canto... 😆
I wich I head surch a teacher.
Wow!
Ni idea de lo que le está indicando exactamente pero me entretiene mucho jajaja
Por fin alguien comentando en español 🤣🖖🏻
Ajjjaja
La profesora detalladamente está ayudando a perfeccionar los pasajes complejos de la aria . Es una de las cantantes y pedagogas de la época comunista y el sistema de la educación rusa/ países comunistas era muy duro, pero muy eficaz. Está enseñando con toda su alma, me acorde mis años cuando yo era una estudiante del canto lírico en el cons. superior , mi profe estaba enseñándome en la misma manera …
The irony is that I feel the exact same way about your comment xD. I understand just enough to get your point
Minha mãe que Massa 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Estas mujeres dominan una hermosa voz como yo los "gallos" 😄😄... Es increible ver a una aprendiz y su maestra. Es muy interesante
I would love it if you could transcribe this lesson into English. This is an amazing experience!
This is a frenetic class 😂😂😂 But wish I could know what they're saying 😂❤
An amazing teacher! 😍
Sonychka Ty prikolnaja mentorka.Brava!!!
Drop the jaw and modify the vowel when necessary, especially in the high range…. Beautiful sound, by the way.
Uauuu! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻